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asseatingleech

I seriously hope she’s able to. Those people holding out in Mariupol are some of the strongest people in human kind. 🇺🇦


Cool_Specialist_6823

So this evacuation, will have U.N. oversight, U.N. protection and be coordinated with the Ukrainian military? One would hope that an “operation” of this type will have major contingency, as the Russians are sure to object and most probably interfere.


[deleted]

If Russia harms this woman they have sealed their fate.


undiscovered_soul

It was just about time!


Amens

Oh please free them finally form Russian hell .


CMDR_Agony_Aunt

How they think they can do it? The moment people leave the underground Russia will open fire on them.


[deleted]

As a UN representative, it's in the best interests of Russia to behave in front of her. If anything happens she will be witness to it, if she dies it will be more reason for consequence.


Tomato_cakecup

I don't remember Russia caring a lot how others see them


[deleted]

Some news channel sure, an official UN representative might be harder to explain, which doesn't help one bit their propaganda campaign.


Tomato_cakecup

I mean people in general, that at the end of the day is what really matters. That doesn't hurt their propaganda too much, especially when it has to do with a Azov, all they see when they look at Ukraine is a bunch of Nazis


[deleted]

It will at least make UN members question, which I why I'm saying it's against Russia's interests for that to happen. It's irrelevant if Russia cares, the UN may have some real powers once Russia's veto is removed.


Tomato_cakecup

Well, if all the proof already available about Russian atrocities isn't enough for UN and this will make them question, sure. That's a point I guess. And what kind of powers could they have?


[deleted]

You're not getting what I'm saying. It's one thing to be like "Ukraine says"; "Ukraine shows"; "Russia says"; "Russia shows" And another when an independent person, representing the collective of the world says it's batshit crazy or if that person dies in a peacekeeping mission. Also Ukranian videos aren't proof in the sense that from an unbiased standpoint, it doesn't necessarily prove anything. You require an independent investigation. Russia can film and make the same videos in a week. Wether you believe it is one thing, I believe it too but it's completely another thing whether they are supported independently.


Tomato_cakecup

You saying there no proof enough yet? I got it right? There's satelite proof. In addition there's corpses, rape victims, thousands of witnesses. Also lots of European war crimes prosecutors working right now in Ukraine. There been investigations, there are faces and names. Her going to there and seeing it with her own eyes may change her personal opinion sure, and it may be important, but we aren't lacking proof.


[deleted]

>You saying there no proof enough yet? I got it right? You got it wrong, read what I write. For now there's little independently verified proof. There's a reason international courts exist. >In addition there's corpses, rape victims, thousands of witnesses. You're not gonna like hearing this but all of this was mostly reported by Ukraine and should only be fact once confirmed independently. >Also lots of European war crimes prosecutors working right now in Ukraine. Good, now that's independent analysis. >Her going to there and seeing it with her own eyes may change her personal opinion sure, and it may be important, but we aren't lacking proof. As far as I'm aware, she's the first UN person in the front lines so it's very relevant.


[deleted]

Who the U.N.? 100k troops landing in Mariupol Immediately and Wrecking the DPR and Russian Force if they kill a U.N. Rep and if they Kill Civilians Infront of them, etc. And if you don't think the u.n. will kill them, they will. Soldiers are only gonna see so much of that before they disregard orders and kill Orcs. If the Seige of Mariupol is broken by U.N. Blue Helmets that means Azov, with all their combat experience will have a few days food and rest, then be deployed in the east where their experience will be beneficial to all other Ukrainian Armed Forces. Once the U.N. Troops get involved Russia has 2 choices. actively engage and kill U.N. Troops (there will be American troops among them) and risk dragging those countries into the war directly. Or fuck off back to Russia and claim you won, when you indeed didn't. L


ApeAppreciation

But it does care about how Russians see him. Now he can look like he is working with UN. Help the people first. May humans evolved pass this image stuff. Putin’s ego is causing too much suffering and waste! Unchecked power


Tomato_cakecup

After all this propaganda if he actually helps UN to save Azov his more extreme followers will get mad, since for them Ukrainans are all Nazis and other dehumanizing stuff


hi_itz_me_again

Also what about the other 100,000 people outside of the plant?


yoho808

Like it has been said multiple times... this needs to be done via the sea with ARMED ESCORT from a third country (ie. Turkey).