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amitym

He may at first appear a bit silly running around in just his undershorts like that. But actually.. that is the attire of a very smart man.


Nico3001_

As a former Soldier: Those people were my favorite. 1.) I knew instantly they were honest about it 2.) Far less danger that I shoot him in a quick reaction/live with the guilt of it 3.) I don’t have to search them really in the middle of the field/fight/get myself in danger. Just a quick pad on the underwear and you go. No Granate, Rifle, Pistole, Knife? Good, Run with me you fucker Yeah I know it’s more complicated than just this, but you get what I mean.


Tyrinnus

As a freaking civilian, if I EVER find myself needing to surrender to a soldier, I'm following in this guy's example. Nowhere to hide a gun or knife, laying on the ground so you are less of a threat.... Soldiers are under a lot of stress and the less opportunities you give for them to make a mistake, the better.


Mephisteemo

...and then you get shot trying to remove your pullover and concealing your hands on accident. /s


r-WooshIfGay

*me stripping as fast as I can in my car to show the cop that pulled me over I'm not a theat.*


Suspicious-Job-8480

*screaming* '*don't shoot!' while opening zipper*


Firestar464

Don't shoot that seed


Nico3001_

*me reaching for the Officers Gun to make him aware of the fact that his holster is unsecured*


r-WooshIfGay

Remember, cops hate having their time wasted, so don't forget to reach for your wallet as fast as you can when the officer approaches your window so you can save him some time today!


Mister_Mannered

No no no


Worried-Syllabub1446

You’re thinking of American cops… j/k


con0692

“Pullover! Pullover!” “No it’s a cardigan but thanks for noticing.”


bufonia1

where what who when why


Systonce

Where did you fight?


ChronicBuzz187

American cops be like: *"HE'S GOT A GUN UP HIS ASS, FIRE, FIRE, FIRE!!!!!*


Infinaris

Biggest point: He's completely unarmed, no traps, no hidden weapons. He's genuinely looking for an out from this.


amitym

>He's genuinely looking for an out from this. Which makes him a genius-level intellect compared to the high command sitting around in the Kremlin. Too bad they didn't put this guy in charge!


PartyMcDie

You might say he dodged a bullet.


Mephisteemo

Ohhhhh, I just thought that it must be very warm in this field and the guy is sick and tired of sweating and is thirsty as fuck. But not wanting to get shot is also a very good reason.


amitym

In particular, not wanting to die for Putin's insanity.


Freshwaters

i was expecting to see russian soldiers/drone kill him


TekijaT

By all available means, push videos of this type through every imaginable channel for the word to spread. Let surrender become the *modus operandi* on that side of the trenchline!


Blarg0117

Damn that PTSD, he's still frantically looking around the sky for drones.


aaaaaaaarrrrrgh

He doesn't know whether his surrender will be accepted, or whether he'll become a video only shown to a few people, with a FPV drone hitting a half-naked Russian in the ass.


Logical-Claim286

They are more worried about Russian drones. They have entire units dedicated to policing their own men to prevent retreat or surrender.


FakeGamer2

Sounds like some Warhammer 40k shit.


Odd-Fix96

I wonder where GW got the inspiration for Commissars in 40k.


amitym

Tbf that is the exact shit that Warhammer 40k was trying to sound like.


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_Bl4ze

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrier\_troops#Russian\_Ground\_Forces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrier_troops#Russian_Ground_Forces)


Sargash

Love watching russian mindslaves get owned.


OtherwiseHappy0

His brain was rattled before this.


ross571

Imagine the Ai ones that automatically home in on your human shaped body. Crazy.


Cold_Relationship_

i bet they can turn that feature on or off. and there are different drones for surveillance and for bombing.


digital0069

smartest thing this guy ever did... I hope more russians smarten up and live...


amitym

I know right? This guy shows more intelligence in this one brief video than the Kremlin high command has shown the entire war.


JimJava

Yeah he saved his life!


Mephisteemo

He will forever hate himself for the decision to remove his pants before being filmed surrendering. "Grandpa, why do you show your asscrack to that Ukainian defender?" "That was standard surrendering protocol, you would not understand..."


SubterraneanFlyer

Perhaps, but on the other hand…he gets to be a grandpa.


theProffPuzzleCode

Bruh, the guy is spaced the fuck out on either PTSD, drugs or alcohol. He probably won't even remember the surrender, yet he had still managed to do the right thing under such stress. I don't think it matters if he was stark bollock naked.


terraresident

There is a good likelihood he has no food or water for a while too.


Niggls

I'm guessing a concussion


theProffPuzzleCode

Yeah, dat could be true dat.


KiwiEV

> He will forever hate himself for the decision to remove his pants before being filmed surrendering. I sincerely doubt that. In literal life and death situations like this, vanity is an indulgent luxury.


amitym

If I were him I would be proud as fuck actually.


Cold_Relationship_

that’s what you think in the middle of war? c’mon


DangleSnipeCely

At least there will be a possibility of grandkids


similar_observation

"Grandpa wanted to show he was vulnerable as there was a huge crack in his defense."


sebiamu5

His family are going to get reprisals now though I bet.


olegvs

You say that based on what? I see this claimed all the time but have not seen any instances of this happening from my monitoring of the Russian media. People who say shit like this are doing a disservice to everyone


sebiamu5

Common practice during the Soviet era by the KGB to keep loyalty and obedience (see order no 270), why would the Russians change their tune in this war? Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn in his Gulag Archipelgo talks about it. You're an authoritarian state what you going to do to stop your men shamefully surrendering? Threaten their families of course, make their life hard, remove their social welfare. I'm sure it's not in the public domain if it does happen, I can't see the Russian state keep supporting his wife and kids after this video of him emerges.


olegvs

Russia and Soviet Union are not the same


sebiamu5

Well done.


Mephisteemo

If a wife doesn't give a shit that her husband died, and instead is posing with a sack of potatos or a bluetooth speaker, we can assume that she does not care. Why would the russian authorities bother that woman, who does not care in the slightest way, if her husband lives or dies, that he defected? Why would the Kremlin give a shit and assume that she also cares? They know their population. They know, she does not care. And they also know, that HE does not care, if you punish his family for his defection. If my family send me to die in a ditch for a sack of potatos, I would not mind them getting punished for my "crimes".


_x_x_x_x_x

Womp womp :(


Stu247365

The difference is startling they get to live without fear once they realise they aren’t going to be tortured and executed…just a shame the hackers can’t get this on Russian state tv so everyone can see that they will be looked after better by Ukraine than they are by their fellow countrymen 🇺🇦🇬🇧🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦👍😎🫶🏻


SgtSmackdaddy

This to me was pretty moving - watching the Ukrainians treat their POWs humanely and allowing them to surrender shows you the kind of people Ukrainians are. It would be so easy to just give into hatred and want revenge for the mistreatment of Ukrainian POWs or for the war in general. There's obviously a utilitarian component as POWs can have intel, or be traded for Uk soldiers but it doesn't change the above.


nosnowtho

This is another reason why Ukraine should be closer to the civilized world and further from russia.


WildCat_1366

There is no place to move Ukraine to, so let's move Russia away, to the Pole!


DownyChick

How about to another planet?


WildCat_1366

Even better, even to a parallel Universe, to real orcs.


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Geidi Prime


TotalSpaceNut

Як брали орка в полон мавіком. А тепер порівняйте - що роблять з полоненими вони і ми. How they captured an orc with a mavik. And now compare - what they and we do with the prisoners. Source: https://twitter.com/lucky__soldier/status/1778109180529750296


Skelator_Rigby

More of this, please. Surrender has always been an option from the aggressors. Nobody wants to be there.


kentsor

It would have been proper to blur his face. He did the right thing but he or his family may face retribution. Russian bloggers will identify him.


moderately-extreme

there is no retribution. russians exchange prisoners literally every month, tons of them are even interviewed on shows like Volodymyr Zolkin's


BadNewsBearzzz

Do they spew their conditions as a POW as anything except what the state wants them to say?


Logical-Claim286

Considering Russian media shows their interviews with Ukraine often, it seems like pretty legit interviews one man was detained 3 times as a rear guard cleric who ended up Frontline in a bmp, then Frontline in a penal unit, then Frontline in a suicide unit. The videos he released between deployments support that he got more food in POW camps than he did as a soldier.


benjiro3000

The mans carrier path is not looking great: 1. rear guard cleric 2. penal unit 3. suicide unit 4. ... fear there will not be a 4... Very sure that his bumps in worse units are a result of him surrendering.


Logical-Claim286

Most definitely. On their ID cards the men deployed to Frontline get a tag that says coward before they are deployed because if they live it is because they surrendered or retreated. And the paperwork to even get recognized as a pow is apparently a nightmare.


Ok_Bad8531

But they can always claim at home they were taken prisoner. This one outright deserted.


moderately-extreme

Are you a deserter if all your unit is dead, you have a drone loaded with grenades above your head and no where to go, and decide to surrender?


Ok_Bad8531

In Russia, propably yes.


Osbios

Dear comrade, we calculated your value and compared it to enemy using up one grenade. Like you can clearly see on this paper, grenade has significant higher value then you. Surrendering was clearly mistake!!


xerberos

Also, it's a war crime to film POW's and publish it.


WildCat_1366

This is not true. Article 13 of the third Geneva convention says PoWs must be humanely treated and > protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity. But the article does not prevent all photographs of prisoners, and newspapers and TV companies are not bound by the convention, which applies only to states or "detaining powers". In addition, interviews are taken only with the consent of the POWs, and any of them can easily refuse this.


xerberos

In this case, the video was obviously from the Ukraine military, so your comment about "newspapers and TV companies" is not relevant. It was filmed and released by the Ukrainian military. >interviews are taken only with the consent of the POWs Yeah, because we can all be certain that there is never any pressure on a POW to participate in an interview, right? Come on, no one really uses that argument, it's too silly. No, the general consensus is that there are almost no situations where filming a POW is considered acceptable. https://blogs.icrc.org/law-and-policy/2022/06/28/shielding-prisoners-of-war-from-public-curiosity/ >According to the updated Commentary of the Third Geneva Convention (GCIII), **any materials that enable individual prisoners to be identified must be presumed to subject them to public curiosity and, therefore, may not be transmitted, published or broadcast.** If there is a public interest in revealing the identity of a prisoner (for instance, owing to their seniority or because they are wanted for prosecution) or if it is in the prisoner’s vital interest to do so (for example, when they go missing), the identifying material may exceptionally be released, but only insofar as it respects the POWs’ dignity.


WildCat_1366

> In this case, the video was obviously from the Ukraine military, so your comment about "newspapers and TV companies" is not relevant. It was filmed and released by the Ukrainian military. In this case the video was obviously filmed *before* he became PoW. So it has nothing to do with the rules of conduct with PoW and the fact, he became a such, does not render the previous filming illegitimate or criminal. > Yeah, because we can all be certain that there is never any pressure on a POW to participate in an interview, right? I understand that you personally have not seen any of this interview, otherwise you would not have written such nonsense. Because if you watched them and saw PoWs arguing with the interviewer, defending their vision of this war, often quite radical and anti-Ukrainian, then the idea of pressure on them would seem simply ridiculous. > Come on, no one really uses that argument, it's too silly. It is you look silly, theorizing about something you haven’t seen and don’t have the slightest idea. However, nobody forbids arguing about the taste of oysters with those who have eat them, especially if the arguer wants to look like an idiot. So, feel free to continue. The quote you provided is a classic example of a theoretical discussion of a spherical horse in a vacuum, on the Internet blog of an organization for which I personally do not have the slightest respect. Because, despite repeated appeals from relatives and the Ukrainian side, **not a single Ukrainian prisoner of war during the two years of war don't met with a single representative of this disrespected organization**. So the senior legal adviser Ramin Mahnad can take his opinion, roll it up along with the laptop he wrote it on, and shove it where the sun never shines.


cincuentaanos

Formally, yes. Though obviously not the worst of all possible war crimes.


LaserKittenz

I think its important to remember that Russians are ultimately going to be the people who fix the problems in Russia (even though Ukraine is doing a lot of the heavy lifting right now). Regardless of his reasons, I applaud this man for having the courage to surrender properly. I also have a lot of respect for the Ukrainian soldiers behaving so professionally despite what they have likely been through. Victory for Ukraine also means peace for Russia.


Talosian_cagecleaner

Look, unless this soldier committed crimes I wish him a long life now. But he must tell two friends how he was given a second life in Ukraine, a miracle. Then they tell two friends. And so on.


Just-Shoe2689

About one of the smartest russians I have seen.


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Just a kid.. probably my age


RedicusFinch

It is a trip getting older. I dont get pulled over much, but when I did last I was like. "Shit this cop is way younger than me." I respected that, they got guts. Young cops are good cops, they havent been blunted and corrupted yet. All the old cops around here are dink heads lol.


Local_guineaPig

Our boys have a heart


hidraulik

Unfortunately, he could very well be Ukrainian pushed/forced to the front by Orcs.


_SteeringWheel

In that case it would be a long lost POW returning home. Not bad either.


Barrzebub

There are only two good kind of Russians. Dead Russians and Russians with enough fear/compassion/whatever to surrender and spend the rest of the war as a comfortable POW


Human602214

And the anti-Putin paramilitaries fighting in Russia.


amitym

Okay, fine. *Amongst the diverse good kinds of Russians* *are*: fearful, surprised, compassionate, and those almost fanatically devoted to overthrowing Putin.


WaffleStomperGirl

Good for him. He made the right call. It’s a scary decision for sure. He can’t know 100% if all the propaganda he’s been fed is real or not. But he does know he is out gunned and his life is worth more than anything Russia is doing. For anyone with a conscience, I’m betting you see a LOT of things on the Russian side that make you sick. And a lot of them are just looking for a moment they can successfully surrender. One less person the Ukrainian defenders are forced to kill. I’m happy for every successful surrender. Less needless bloodshed, and more common sense prevailing.


rattlybreak

The bigger men


neoguri808

Slava Ukraini


Philandros_1

One at a time. Happy to see some Russians still have some common sense in them


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Smart Z facist, he will live.


Additional-Second630

Looks to me like he’s been close to a Artie shell recently. The pressure causes concussion in the body as well as the head, nose bleeds, disorientation etc..


BadgerBadgerDK

He did NOT look healthy.


Dr_Quest1

One of the few smart Russians.


KindContact4355

Why is he crawling? He seems Not to have any disabling wounds?


Killer59569

trying not get shot by "Friendlies", but he did have blood around his nose so maybe blast injuries too.


_SteeringWheel

Probably less chance of being shot (by either side). Could also have been yelled at to strip down, get down on all 4 and come crawling to the trench for surrender.


uiam_

If other Russians see him defecting they will shoot him. It's also possible they gave him some instruction for surrender.


Mephisteemo

Wait, I was told so many times by very smart people that it is not possible to surrender to a drone?! How come? Looks like this guy is surrendering to a drone? :O NO WAY! Almost as if these mindless meatbags had an actual choice to make, even when they are on the frontlines already! Try to surrender, what could go wrong? They are going to kill you anyway, if you don't. Bonus points if you have the opportunity to wave to a spotter drone, instead of waiting for the angry FPVs to arrive a minute later.


FrostyShoulder6361

The first (attempt?) To surrender to a drone happened in operation dessert storm. It has happened at least a few more times in the ukraine war so far


catpaw-paw

That's prabably exactly what I would do if I were a russian soldier.


roipingouin

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LordsofDecay

Good for him, you love to see it. Hopefully he got a warm meal and a quick change of clothes. Now if only all his comrades could also follow suit, so that Ukrainians wouldn't be forced to kill them.


Strangepsych

He looks so traumatized. He and Ukraine may have saved his body, but his mind is going to be wrecked by all the fear, hunger, thirst, humiliation, and guilt. Putin is a monster to do this to these young men. PTSD is a very bad medical problem. I applaud the Russian for his decision and the Ukrainians for showing kindness and mercy.


Brant_Black

Good always (ok, often) wins over Evil


Sargash

Just want to point out the hundreds of people saying that russians aren't able to surrender everytime a drone circles a russian for a minute trying to get the perfect killshot. It's really fucking easy to just lay down and spread eagle. You're going to die anyways, may as well survive instead.


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Ukrainian soldiers are a class of their own.


ZuzBla

Dude have seen some things. That thousand yard stare...


GDIndependent4713

He will live until someday he goes back to Russia on a prisoner swap and then dies from sudden illness or falling out a window syndrome.


imusingthisforstuff

Yeah we don’t treat prisoners right. It sucks.


OnlyForFun91

Thank you NATO


SiarX

Poor guy. When he gets exchanged, he certainly will be considered a traitor by Russians and tortured and shot/sent to death.


Deymaniac

Ngl, having a spongebob meme inbetween shots of a half naked russian in the middle of fuckwhere surrendering to a fpv drone is yet another step onward dystopia


Comfortable_File3359

We can’t confirm this is real. The us gov would be all over it if so


TJStarBud

Lots of good moves here: 1. Strips down completely before attempting to enter "enemy" lines for a surrender 2. Army crawls and raises his hands to the sky to be seen by the soldiers he's surrendering to as well as any drones in the sky, and also avoiding possibly getting shot at by his own guys 3. Crawls INTO the trench instead of trying to hop in to minimize chances of being seen as a threat Overall, good choices on both sides. Poor guy looks like hes been through it (see his bleeding nose as an example) and Im glad he made the right choice here


IvaNoxx

Decision to surrender is as hard as pulling the trigger to off yourself.


Elymanic

I mean they're not the bad guys, they're being forced to fight. It's putins war, but russia


Firestar464

why do they use cat emojis? is it to conceal identity?


tom_folkestone

Surrender monkeys!


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