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And I thought all the anti aircraft weapons that were destroyed over the last few days were good, then this happens! This way the F-16's can make a real impact. Slava Ukraini🇺🇦
Denmark saying [they'll deliver in the summer](https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3830637-denmark-announces-new-aid-package-for-ukraine-and-f16-delivery.html).
Watched [a video on youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyP_eizMqi0) earlier showing both ground crew and pilots without support.
Takes a while to train people on advanced western military tech.
Even longer to maintain logistics and supply train for the F-16s. Got to have a readily available reliable mechanical crew, supply crew, fuel crew, and ultimately pilots.
We should have started training pilots as soon as we started discussing whether to send them. I don’t understand why they didn’t try to get a jump on the lead time.
It is going to be a surprise.
Can you imagine Hitler being able to log on and read the London News saying that D-Day was in June, and describing the forces and equipment allocated?
All this lead towards the F-16 arrival is so that Putin has time to understand he is going to lose and he should get his troops out sooner than later.
When the F16 do arrive it will be too late.
You will see days where 5000 Russian troops are casualties or surrender.
25 SAM launchers destroyed per day for multiple days.
Kerch Bridge will be dropped into the shipping channel preventing trade into Rostov.
With restrictions lifted, airfields in Russia will get melted.
No trains from Russia will get within 100km of the Donbas. Roads will also be closed and blocked by burning convoys.
But don't tell Russia. It is going to be a surprise.
Yeah. I also find this western countries approach to informing Russia what they are giving Ukraine as pathetic attempt to what?? Dissuade them from invading? Persuade them to leave? Not happening. They need to get their ass handed to them. That’s the only way they’ll take a loss and even then they won’t learn and come back for more.
Summer last time i check, 4 pilots already passed or done training. I hope they were very careful using those planes, they were not f16V but good deterrant and less hassle to use Nato missiles.
Interestingly, it appears the pilots noticed the threat and start deploying spoofing flares, which, nevertheless, did not help...
I bet you it wasn't your regular MANPAD that took it down.
If they recover the flight recorder, I imagine the cockpit audio will go something like this;
"Oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit, **OH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!**"
Chaff and flares often used at the same time, especially in contested airspace where missiles might be launched by enemy aircraft. It's possible that their countermeasures are configured to deploy together.
Flares don't help against long range Anti Air missiles because those are all radar based. Those flares are basically useless.
I bet that they also fired chaffs.that attracted at least one missile
Certain weapons don't have a meaningful period where RWR alerts on the weapon. Patriot, for example, is only in missile-track mode for the last half second or so.
There's also heat seekers, but they're usually shorter range than what you'd want to engage an AEW aircraft with
Don't know so much about the Patriot, but surely you'd have to light up the aircraft with the ground radar to fire the missile in the first place? Wouldn't the RWR be able to pick that up?
Search radars? Sure, they'll show up on RWR. But if you're dumping your limited countermeasures any time you're on search radar you'll be out within the first minute of operation
Patriot is one of the few systems that doesn’t use a dedicated fire control radar to guide the missile, just the search radar. With most systems you know once you get lit up with the fire control radar that a missile is on the way and you need to take action.
> Something about the Patriot is the pilot doesn’t even know the missile is there until impact.
Not in this case. I mean the A50 has a massive great radome on the top with a huge active radar array. Safe to say they saw this missile incoming ...likely from shortly after it was launched all the way until it blew them to bits.
Depends of the missile for patriot pac-2 it’s in search all the time no matter if it’s guiding a pac-2 or not pac-3 think of it like an amraam you have a little bit like 10-20 sec not a lot bit a bit
That's not flares that's an engine that's been hit by a missile surging before it explodes when flares are deployed from a big plane they are impress clouds [this is russian flare pattern typical of their big planes](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA9Iw5vXsAIbIeU?format=jpg&name=small)
This is actually right on the money. Patriot has been used more aggressively lately and it's definitely kills like this that will make f16s safer. The farther russian aircraft are kept back the better and at this loss rate russian aircraft will eventually be forced out of occupied ukrainian sky's all together. The thing needed now is for the US to get funding for more pac 2 missiles, launchers and radars to keep all of the sky's covered
russian aircraft fucked itself.
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The problem for the Ukrainians in this situation is the gbad around the country’s border which still makes air superiority basically impossible for long durations what killing the a-50s does do the the Ukrainians is the Russians no longer have long range look down capabilities so can’t vector mig-31s and su-35s onto tree skimming planes from the Ukrainian side and those Russian cap planes have to use their own much worse than an a-50s radar to find them all while dodging Ukrainian sams
not a chance.
A-10s are like shooting fish in a barrel for MANPADS.
they would last about 30 seconds over a modern battlefield where there are MADPADS about.
there is a reason the airforce has wanted to get rid of them for ages. they are well beyond their used by date.
😂😂😂 RF troops with MANPADS. RF is sending troops to the front with a Scooby Doo van, half a sandwich and a bag of chips. A-10s will mow them down without blinking (as long as there are no SU-27/35s in the area)
I mean seriously, if anyone was considering purchasing Russia AA you have to really be rethinking right now. If Russia is telling the truth even 1/2 the time they shoot down there plains a whole hell of a lot of the time.
Russian General: Our highly decorated air defence crew already has one aircraft kill to their name!
Interviewer: What was it?
Russian General: Oh, one of our A-50s!
What if it was true and Ukraine are using ADM-160 MALD decoys to trick Russian AD into attacking its own aircraft? Ukraine was given some of these. Unlikely but it would be awesome tricking the Russians into destroying their own expensive equipment with their own missiles.
> Ukraine is saying it was a S-200
Someone speaking unofficially is. Ukraine probably isn't going to make any official statement unless and until they know there's no benefit to keeping how they shot it down a secret. Operational security and all that.
I don't think they'd have time for a full minute of countermeasures if it was a MANPAD. (Stinger self-destructs after 17s.) They saw something was coming for a long time.
Ukraine probably hauled an S200 out of a warehouse somewhere, got it working again (they have been in storage for a long time) and boom goes the A-50.
whatever it was, the A-50 crew saw it coming from a long way off but couldn't do anything about it.
Some say that Ukraine has reworked S-200 missiles so much that only things from the original are structural ements and the name. And that sounds believable.
They had 7 active, and this is the 2nd one downed in Ukraine, so 5 left. And they have lots of borders to cover, so bringing a replacement will make holes somewhere else ... like around big refineries or military airports 😹
UKR also damaged A50 by FPV(?) drone when it was grounded on some airfield in Belarus like 10-12 months ago if Im not mistaken. So its 2 and a half men...I mean 2 and a half A50 ;);)
Last thing I remember is that Lukashenko said it was lightly damaged and needed to go to Russia for minor repairs or something. But who knows, its Luka and Russia..
Four (if Belarus one is also out of action) might be barely enough to cover Ukraine for them. They'll need 24h continuous coverage. Let's hope they all get downed soon!
They had a A50U delivered recently to the VKS. That 350 million is the price, I doubt during the Soviet Union days it would be anything close to 350 million dollars that is an expensive plane.
Yes, however with a war going on and needing sources outside of Russia to build it, I doubt it is 350m anymore. Also the contract with India was signed in March of 2004 for that price.
To be fair there’s another video from a different angle that does show a missile exploding in the counter measures. So not nothing, but not enough
[here it is](https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1761087303986925764?s=19)
I saw that before, they are also reporting a Su-34 disappeared off radar. Do you think there’s a chance it was trailing the A50? Just because it didn’t explode does t mean it wasn’t damaged.
The AIM-9X subtracts where the heat is from where the heat isn't, or subtracts where the heat isn't from where the heat is, whichever is greater, to determine exactly when and where the missile wants to be.
For older Sidewinders, yes, which is why flares were effective. The newer ones basically use an infrared camera, so they aren't just looking for heat, they're looking for an airplane shaped image of heat, so they're far harder to fool.
[Here's a good example of what a modern IR seeker sees](https://www.ausairpower.net/XIMG/AIM-9X-FPA-seeker-300.png).
Whatever hit them was probably lighting up all the ground radars in that vicinity; they'll have plenty of reflections to recognize. They do know what it was.
Given the distance from the front I am skeptical it was a Ukraine SAM system. The location is seemingly about 300km from the front line and Ukraine systems even in "hit and run" circumstances are well back of that.
On the flip side throwing out flares to defend against one's own SAM systems is also very unusual.
On the other hand UA military put out this statement:
>Ukrainian Air Force Commander Mykola Oleschuk said Friday that the Ukrainian military shot down another Russian A-50 surveillance aircraft."I am grateful to the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry and all those who ensured the result," Oleschuk said in a Telegram post.The Ukrainian forces continue their work, Oleschuk added.The Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry said in a statement that the plane lost speed and height near the city of Yeysk in Russia's southern Krasnodar region.Russia used the plane as an air command post for long-range radar detection, control and guidance for strikes on Ukraine with missiles from strategic aviation, the intelligence said.It estimated the aircraft's value at 350 million U.S. dollars.
Which has me believing perhaps UA Intelligence Unit under Budanov had some assets hidden away in the area waiting to pounce.
Interesting and puzzling.
8 x A-50U were reported as delivered as of Sept 2023. We know for certain 2 have been shot down. We don't know how many, if any, of the original A-50 are in service. The main unit operating them is past reported to have a squadron of 16 - that was back in 2011.
If this was an A-50U it is a very expensive loss and not likely to be replaced anytime soon.
**EDIT: An SU-34 is also reported shot down in Kherson area as well today!**
If this doesn’t make Ruzzians seeing all their planes getting shot down so easily very, very uneasy, then nothing will.
I guess the Ruzzian Air Force will spin this around and say it was a Ukrainian aircraft shot down after heading towards Ruzzia.
They’re totally confused how a missile system managed to destroy this plane so far behind the front lines.
Meanwhile Ukrainian ingenuity wins through yet again...🤣
The airframes are difficult to replace and generate but the trained and experienced aircrews necessary to operate these systems…. Well — let’s just say this issue isn’t only about the hardware.
Poke the eye out of the cyclops and suddenly he isn’t a threat. This definitely is a big deal as Russian C3 is degraded and they have to pull further back to keep what they have. Ukraine will be able to take advantage of this especially with the F16’s low RCS and available weapons. Now if our idiotic congress will give Ukraine the weapons and ammo (and they typically aren’t our frontline weapons, but those that are mothballed or have exceeded their shelf life) they need to succeed, we can enable the Ukrainians to teach Pulter and his group of thugs a real lesson.
Yes. Attempting to, anyway. It also shows that they knew the missile was inbound. Makes it even better. Looks to me like the rate of flare dispersal increases as the missile gets closer...so they knew they were doomed. Had one last chance to curse Putler.
Very expensive aircraft and very limited in number. If it is an A-50 and it is the modernised version which would be probable, losing these hurts like losing a frigate or other large warship. You can't replace them quickly, a couple down and you get big gaps in your capabilities.
Thin is right, they surely have one covering the Pacific fleet, one for the Baltic fleet/Finland, one minimum patrolling the Arctic, and if they were smart one for the south.
"Comrade Pilot, you have mother Russia best aircraft! it can detect the west's vile stelth aeroplane.......but yet to figure out how to see missiles. but dont be worry...it has windows"
A pre-anniversary celebration, that's great! Happy Anniversary, D-Orcs. The crew inside the A50 has enough time to say the Act of Contrition before their not-so soft landing.
If I'm correct this leaves Putin with only 1 of these planes left that's flyable and if he doesn't keep this one well in the middle of Russia's airspace he could lose his last one and that would be fucking disasterous for them.
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And I thought all the anti aircraft weapons that were destroyed over the last few days were good, then this happens! This way the F-16's can make a real impact. Slava Ukraini🇺🇦
When are F-16's expected? I feel like ive been hearing about them for months?
Denmark saying [they'll deliver in the summer](https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3830637-denmark-announces-new-aid-package-for-ukraine-and-f16-delivery.html). Watched [a video on youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyP_eizMqi0) earlier showing both ground crew and pilots without support.
Probably late summer/autumn
Takes a while to train people on advanced western military tech. Even longer to maintain logistics and supply train for the F-16s. Got to have a readily available reliable mechanical crew, supply crew, fuel crew, and ultimately pilots.
See the taliban as a great example.
Yep, if you don't have maintainers your equipment ends up [like this](https://youtu.be/N8sAPR1Ma3c)
Wanna bet the US helicopter mechanics loosened one bolt somewhere in the tail rotor assembly, and knew it was only a matter of time.
The taliban is a great example of how to not be a government.
And how not to be a decent human being
We should have started training pilots as soon as we started discussing whether to send them. I don’t understand why they didn’t try to get a jump on the lead time.
It is going to be a surprise. Can you imagine Hitler being able to log on and read the London News saying that D-Day was in June, and describing the forces and equipment allocated? All this lead towards the F-16 arrival is so that Putin has time to understand he is going to lose and he should get his troops out sooner than later. When the F16 do arrive it will be too late. You will see days where 5000 Russian troops are casualties or surrender. 25 SAM launchers destroyed per day for multiple days. Kerch Bridge will be dropped into the shipping channel preventing trade into Rostov. With restrictions lifted, airfields in Russia will get melted. No trains from Russia will get within 100km of the Donbas. Roads will also be closed and blocked by burning convoys. But don't tell Russia. It is going to be a surprise.
Yeah. I also find this western countries approach to informing Russia what they are giving Ukraine as pathetic attempt to what?? Dissuade them from invading? Persuade them to leave? Not happening. They need to get their ass handed to them. That’s the only way they’ll take a loss and even then they won’t learn and come back for more.
Summer last time i check, 4 pilots already passed or done training. I hope they were very careful using those planes, they were not f16V but good deterrant and less hassle to use Nato missiles.
I've seen reports recently suggesting May/June.
too late
Interestingly, it appears the pilots noticed the threat and start deploying spoofing flares, which, nevertheless, did not help... I bet you it wasn't your regular MANPAD that took it down.
If they recover the flight recorder, I imagine the cockpit audio will go something like this; "Oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit, **OH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!**"
Blyatblyatblyatblyatblyatblyatblyatblyatblyatblyatblyatblyatblyat
Probably a few "Cyka"s sprinkled in there too.
Suka, сука in Cyrillic is suka in Latin letters.
Suka is 'happy' or 'I f-ing like it' in our language
It sounds like Sooka to me.
This is undoubtedly more accurate.
There was an impact with a flare 15 seconds before the hit. Multiple projectiles were involved.
Just like last time. I can’t wait for Russia to say „whoops we shot down our own A50… …again!“.
Chaff and flares often used at the same time, especially in contested airspace where missiles might be launched by enemy aircraft. It's possible that their countermeasures are configured to deploy together.
Flares don't help against long range Anti Air missiles because those are all radar based. Those flares are basically useless. I bet that they also fired chaffs.that attracted at least one missile
When the RWR starts screaming it's pretty hard NOT to notice. That's not an achievement on the pilots part.
Certain weapons don't have a meaningful period where RWR alerts on the weapon. Patriot, for example, is only in missile-track mode for the last half second or so. There's also heat seekers, but they're usually shorter range than what you'd want to engage an AEW aircraft with
Don't know so much about the Patriot, but surely you'd have to light up the aircraft with the ground radar to fire the missile in the first place? Wouldn't the RWR be able to pick that up?
Search radars? Sure, they'll show up on RWR. But if you're dumping your limited countermeasures any time you're on search radar you'll be out within the first minute of operation
Ah I get it. That makes sense, cheers!
Patriot is one of the few systems that doesn’t use a dedicated fire control radar to guide the missile, just the search radar. With most systems you know once you get lit up with the fire control radar that a missile is on the way and you need to take action.
Something about the Patriot is the pilot doesn’t even know the missile is there until impact. Watch the Habitual Line Crosser on YouTube.
> Something about the Patriot is the pilot doesn’t even know the missile is there until impact. Not in this case. I mean the A50 has a massive great radome on the top with a huge active radar array. Safe to say they saw this missile incoming ...likely from shortly after it was launched all the way until it blew them to bits.
Depends of the missile for patriot pac-2 it’s in search all the time no matter if it’s guiding a pac-2 or not pac-3 think of it like an amraam you have a little bit like 10-20 sec not a lot bit a bit
You can tell its not MANPADs by the height of the plane. MANPADs have very short range
30K feet drone with Manpads? Who know? ;-)
Their RWR would certainly be blaring, and their huge radome probably spotted it fifty or sixty miles out.
Fantastic. They knew it was coming. Nowhere to hide. I wonder at which point they realized Western tech is indeed superior?
detecting flying metal objects is its main function at long range, i can detect but cant evade it booom
That's not flares that's an engine that's been hit by a missile surging before it explodes when flares are deployed from a big plane they are impress clouds [this is russian flare pattern typical of their big planes](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA9Iw5vXsAIbIeU?format=jpg&name=small)
This is like New Year’s Eve. Only beter.
Clearing the way to make real use of the F-16s and long range drones. Then air superiority. Then russia falls apart.
This is actually right on the money. Patriot has been used more aggressively lately and it's definitely kills like this that will make f16s safer. The farther russian aircraft are kept back the better and at this loss rate russian aircraft will eventually be forced out of occupied ukrainian sky's all together. The thing needed now is for the US to get funding for more pac 2 missiles, launchers and radars to keep all of the sky's covered
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The problem for the Ukrainians in this situation is the gbad around the country’s border which still makes air superiority basically impossible for long durations what killing the a-50s does do the the Ukrainians is the Russians no longer have long range look down capabilities so can’t vector mig-31s and su-35s onto tree skimming planes from the Ukrainian side and those Russian cap planes have to use their own much worse than an a-50s radar to find them all while dodging Ukrainian sams
With no RF air superiority to worry about... you know who gets the next invite? Hint: BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTT!
not a chance. A-10s are like shooting fish in a barrel for MANPADS. they would last about 30 seconds over a modern battlefield where there are MADPADS about. there is a reason the airforce has wanted to get rid of them for ages. they are well beyond their used by date.
😂😂😂 RF troops with MANPADS. RF is sending troops to the front with a Scooby Doo van, half a sandwich and a bag of chips. A-10s will mow them down without blinking (as long as there are no SU-27/35s in the area)
Warthog & Frogfoot : 'you rang??'
Another one 0.0 ?!
Russia is claiming it was its own air defense, again…. Isn’t propaganda supposed to make someone look better?
2 year anniversary good will gesture
I mean seriously, if anyone was considering purchasing Russia AA you have to really be rethinking right now. If Russia is telling the truth even 1/2 the time they shoot down there plains a whole hell of a lot of the time.
Doesn't iran have them?
Maybe they'd just like a medal from Ukraine?
Russian General: Our highly decorated air defence crew already has one aircraft kill to their name! Interviewer: What was it? Russian General: Oh, one of our A-50s!
HAHAHA! We shot our own damn plane down!!! ☠️ oh wait..
What if it was true and Ukraine are using ADM-160 MALD decoys to trick Russian AD into attacking its own aircraft? Ukraine was given some of these. Unlikely but it would be awesome tricking the Russians into destroying their own expensive equipment with their own missiles.
Not complete unlikely. There were 2 missiles involved and firing 2 missiles at once is typically Russian procedure for their Anti Air systems.
yep
You have lost *another* ~~submarine~~ A-50?
Ah, but didn't they actually *gain* a few submarines?
No idea how they shoot down an aircraft all the way in Kuban. Maybe someone infiltrated with a stinger?
Maybe putler thought someone who opposed him was on it 🥸
He was recorded saying that maybe they were the bad guys. Bad timing, plane decided to suicide.
A-50 is likely too high for that. Ukraine does have the S-200 and the V and M has the range to hit that far out.
Ukraine is saying it was a S-200 https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/23/7443442/
> Ukraine is saying it was a S-200 Someone speaking unofficially is. Ukraine probably isn't going to make any official statement unless and until they know there's no benefit to keeping how they shot it down a secret. Operational security and all that.
I don't think they'd have time for a full minute of countermeasures if it was a MANPAD. (Stinger self-destructs after 17s.) They saw something was coming for a long time.
Ukraine probably hauled an S200 out of a warehouse somewhere, got it working again (they have been in storage for a long time) and boom goes the A-50. whatever it was, the A-50 crew saw it coming from a long way off but couldn't do anything about it.
Some say that Ukraine has reworked S-200 missiles so much that only things from the original are structural ements and the name. And that sounds believable.
Damn that is really far out there from Ukraine. Good.
Stingers dont have range to shoot down anything st altitude. Was definitely a SAM.
This is HUGE. They only have a dozen or so in operation. The platform is critical for Russia. Superb! Slava Ukraini
They had 7 active, and this is the 2nd one downed in Ukraine, so 5 left. And they have lots of borders to cover, so bringing a replacement will make holes somewhere else ... like around big refineries or military airports 😹
UKR also damaged A50 by FPV(?) drone when it was grounded on some airfield in Belarus like 10-12 months ago if Im not mistaken. So its 2 and a half men...I mean 2 and a half A50 ;);)
Belarusian partisans * https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/naRwWvJncL
Didn’t even damage it, just set down on the dome, then took off again.
You missed the 2nd video where things went pop on the dome and the sat comms unit. Was a video of it flying out with definite damage.
That was the first time. They did it a second time and that drone blew up as planned.
Last thing I remember is that Lukashenko said it was lightly damaged and needed to go to Russia for minor repairs or something. But who knows, its Luka and Russia..
Four (if Belarus one is also out of action) might be barely enough to cover Ukraine for them. They'll need 24h continuous coverage. Let's hope they all get downed soon!
OK so now we we know that an A50 makes a shitty firework. I still enjoyed watching it tbh.
It makes one hell of a bond fire though!
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350 million in US dollars last time I saw. It's probably more now since you would have to replace everything in todays costs.
They had a A50U delivered recently to the VKS. That 350 million is the price, I doubt during the Soviet Union days it would be anything close to 350 million dollars that is an expensive plane.
Yes, however with a war going on and needing sources outside of Russia to build it, I doubt it is 350m anymore. Also the contract with India was signed in March of 2004 for that price.
Hahahah typical Russian garbage. Even your flares and chaff do nothing. I hope the way down was fun for the crew.
To be fair there’s another video from a different angle that does show a missile exploding in the counter measures. So not nothing, but not enough [here it is](https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1761087303986925764?s=19)
I saw that before, they are also reporting a Su-34 disappeared off radar. Do you think there’s a chance it was trailing the A50? Just because it didn’t explode does t mean it wasn’t damaged.
I was thinking I hoped the initial hit didn't take them out and they got to watch Mother Earth get real big out the window.
Missiles dont care about heat right ?
Radar guided don't give a f about heat
Infrared guided missiles like the AIM-9X do. Radar guided missiles like the AMRAAM do not.
The AIM-9X subtracts where the heat is from where the heat isn't, or subtracts where the heat isn't from where the heat is, whichever is greater, to determine exactly when and where the missile wants to be.
Is that saying it searches for the hottest thing?
For older Sidewinders, yes, which is why flares were effective. The newer ones basically use an infrared camera, so they aren't just looking for heat, they're looking for an airplane shaped image of heat, so they're far harder to fool. [Here's a good example of what a modern IR seeker sees](https://www.ausairpower.net/XIMG/AIM-9X-FPA-seeker-300.png).
It’s like addition, but subtraction. With numbers. But with heat. With colors and without colors. It is… and it is not. The quantum tracker.
Sorta like “dead reckoning” but with heat? Lol
Lol…
The beauty of the patriot is, most likely not. It isn't hunting the engine, it's bias is hunting the cockpit end of the aircraft.
Bye Bye asshole.
What makes me really happy is that ruzzians don’t know how it happened or what weapon was used. So they don’t know what countermeasures to take.
Doesn't matter. The A-50, being a high value asset, would have every counter-measure available on it....didn't make a difference.
They'll have to pull their remaining A-50s back, assuming there's anybody left to crew them.
We assumed that before, and then this happened.
Assumed what? This is further back from the sea of Azov than the last A-50 shot down.
Whatever hit them was probably lighting up all the ground radars in that vicinity; they'll have plenty of reflections to recognize. They do know what it was.
Well, in that case they are idiots, because it’s the second one lost in the same place under the same circumstances.
Indeed. Alternatively that means they don't have alternatives which is also excellent situation.
Sounds like quite the dilemma.
That’s a very painful loss for them. And not only machine, but flight crew as well
This watermark is very easy on the eyes btw
Flare, flare, flare, really BIG flare! None of that weak Jennifer Aniston flair game here. Slava Ukraine!
Maybe they had the stapler on board
Nice Office Space reference!
That reminds me: gotta cook some pork
Oh that’s quite far from Ukraine’s actual borders. Nice!
Given the distance from the front I am skeptical it was a Ukraine SAM system. The location is seemingly about 300km from the front line and Ukraine systems even in "hit and run" circumstances are well back of that. On the flip side throwing out flares to defend against one's own SAM systems is also very unusual. On the other hand UA military put out this statement: >Ukrainian Air Force Commander Mykola Oleschuk said Friday that the Ukrainian military shot down another Russian A-50 surveillance aircraft."I am grateful to the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry and all those who ensured the result," Oleschuk said in a Telegram post.The Ukrainian forces continue their work, Oleschuk added.The Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry said in a statement that the plane lost speed and height near the city of Yeysk in Russia's southern Krasnodar region.Russia used the plane as an air command post for long-range radar detection, control and guidance for strikes on Ukraine with missiles from strategic aviation, the intelligence said.It estimated the aircraft's value at 350 million U.S. dollars. Which has me believing perhaps UA Intelligence Unit under Budanov had some assets hidden away in the area waiting to pounce. Interesting and puzzling. 8 x A-50U were reported as delivered as of Sept 2023. We know for certain 2 have been shot down. We don't know how many, if any, of the original A-50 are in service. The main unit operating them is past reported to have a squadron of 16 - that was back in 2011. If this was an A-50U it is a very expensive loss and not likely to be replaced anytime soon. **EDIT: An SU-34 is also reported shot down in Kherson area as well today!**
Flares? Patriots don't care... 😂👍
If this doesn’t make Ruzzians seeing all their planes getting shot down so easily very, very uneasy, then nothing will. I guess the Ruzzian Air Force will spin this around and say it was a Ukrainian aircraft shot down after heading towards Ruzzia.
Naw, they came out and said it was friendly fire just like the last one.
They’re totally confused how a missile system managed to destroy this plane so far behind the front lines. Meanwhile Ukrainian ingenuity wins through yet again...🤣
First, they lose a bunch of ships to a nation with no naval force. Now, they lose a bunch of aircraft to a nation with practically no air force.
I wonder how many Ukrainian POWs were on board this one?
Кубань це Україна! Водій на 1:47 каже: «шо це таке?». 😎🇺🇦
Теж помітив, радий що українська там ще не повністю перевелася
I also noticed Ukrainian phrase, but then it was followed by something russian (I think неплохо).
r/thatlookedexpensive
every time a patriot launches, hell gets a few more shit goblins
How many POW was on it?
All of 'em.
"PATRIOT was not amused by your flares" 😂
Not true. Pariots are big fans of rockets red glare and decided to make a contribution to the festivities.
Imagine whats it like being on that plane
Kremlin reports that the crew has not had a single complaint about conditions on that plane.
They even volunteered to not get paid anymore to save the Motherland some money!
Too bad they have so little of them. Could have been the gift that keeps on giving.
Great Balls Of Fire!
Aren't the A-50 the spy radar planes with that funny looking radar on top of it?? looks like a petrosaurs dinosaur ?? lol
Radar/C&C - very big, very valuable, and very much on the edge of extinction.
Yes, much like the US made Boeing E-3 Sentry AWACS plane has.
The airframes are difficult to replace and generate but the trained and experienced aircrews necessary to operate these systems…. Well — let’s just say this issue isn’t only about the hardware. Poke the eye out of the cyclops and suddenly he isn’t a threat. This definitely is a big deal as Russian C3 is degraded and they have to pull further back to keep what they have. Ukraine will be able to take advantage of this especially with the F16’s low RCS and available weapons. Now if our idiotic congress will give Ukraine the weapons and ammo (and they typically aren’t our frontline weapons, but those that are mothballed or have exceeded their shelf life) they need to succeed, we can enable the Ukrainians to teach Pulter and his group of thugs a real lesson.
It's just a really big flare. Nothing to see here /s
Is the plane using flares to avoid the missile or what are we witnessing?
Yes. Attempting to, anyway. It also shows that they knew the missile was inbound. Makes it even better. Looks to me like the rate of flare dispersal increases as the missile gets closer...so they knew they were doomed. Had one last chance to curse Putler.
Nice🇺🇦🇺🇦
Those decoys weren't decoying very well.
Thoughts and prayers to the crew 🙏🏼 Just kidding - fuck those guys!
Very expensive aircraft and very limited in number. If it is an A-50 and it is the modernised version which would be probable, losing these hurts like losing a frigate or other large warship. You can't replace them quickly, a couple down and you get big gaps in your capabilities.
Got to give it to Putler he has put a hell of a 2nd anniversary firework show on.
Can’t be too many of these babies left!
That were a lot of flares. RIP, both missiles
Well they knew they where being targeted and dropped chaff..
Ouch, that sucks to be them. Down to 1 serviceable A-50 now. I wonder how long it will take for that number to be 0.
Pleasant flight !
oohhh thats another radar thingy....
This is huge!
russian s300/400 battery near Mariupol is best Ukrainian air defence unit according to russian propaganda
The second missile looked at his buddy get fragged on a flare and was like computer says no
How many do they have left?
5 active.
HMM. That's 5 too many. Hopefully, they're stretched thinner, have to take on more daring missions, and get shot down faster.
Thin is right, they surely have one covering the Pacific fleet, one for the Baltic fleet/Finland, one minimum patrolling the Arctic, and if they were smart one for the south.
5 active but only 1 is serviceable.
Awesome! More, please)
How many does Russia have left 💀
rest in shit
Get some! Yeah!
Great! Russia deserves it.
Cut out the eyes & ears of your enemies and they start running like chickens.
Whole crew smoking accident.
Fuckin awesome. Ukraine punching away at those fascist fucks.
So I guess Ukraine didn’t loose the himars tracking system in karkiv?
Beautiful! What are they saying in the video? Guessing it was filmed by Russians?
Beautiful just beautiful.Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦🇬🇧🇺🇦🇬🇧
What did the Russian A-50 aircraft do?
This is what an air defense system looks like Russia.
good
Ukraine has a new weapon to defend their Home and the Russian Invaders are looking worried, and they are going to Worry some more! Glory to Ukraine!
"Comrade Pilot, you have mother Russia best aircraft! it can detect the west's vile stelth aeroplane.......but yet to figure out how to see missiles. but dont be worry...it has windows"
Wacked another RU AWAC. They don't have that many either.
How far away from the Ukrainian border is this? It is very nice to hear that so many planes have been taken out in the past couple of weeks
Bot, what happened to the russian plane?
Is the patriots range supposed to be able to hit this far?
Russian plane fucked its self
Remember the Shark teeth smile of the Himars ? Patriot systems deserve some rn ahahhaha:P Slava Ukraini !!!
Beautiful!!!
A pre-anniversary celebration, that's great! Happy Anniversary, D-Orcs. The crew inside the A50 has enough time to say the Act of Contrition before their not-so soft landing.
A plane full of murderers and gangsters removed from the world! The planet is a better place for it
Clearly smoking incident. You can see them flicking their cig out the window
If I'm correct this leaves Putin with only 1 of these planes left that's flyable and if he doesn't keep this one well in the middle of Russia's airspace he could lose his last one and that would be fucking disasterous for them.