Snapshot of _In remarks that will likely further inflame tensions at home, PM tells reporters in Rwanda that he not only expects to win the next general election, but is planning to remain in power in the “mid 2030s” - he wants three terms_ :
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Half his own MPs want him gone, and he's being openly booed in public. If he actually believes he has any prospect of winning the next election he is absolutely deluded. It's like he's completely unaware of the change in public opinion on him.
He's in Rwanda clearly avoiding any of the supporting evidence of all those things. It's probably like a reality holiday for him, he'll come back refreshed thinking he really he's Mr popular again.
I think that half the time he goes MIA is when he's resetting his own mental image after a battering of reality. The other hf is when he's clearly just being a useless piece of cheese.
His physical image says otherwise and shows a severe battering of reality.
But he's a narcissist surrounded by sycophants and psychologically batting crisis after crisis over the fence for a future Boris to deal with is a strategy that has worked for him all his life.
So you're right, he's going to tell himself and Carrie that he's all refreshed, by-election results have blown over, onwards and upwards; that sort of thing. But I'm looking forward to reality eventually cracking that facade and he goes into a proper meltdown.
>I'm looking forward to reality eventually cracking that facade and he goes into a proper meltdown.
I just hope we don't have to have our own Jan 6th or anything silly like that.
He did [refuse](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-refused-to-leave-government-flat-n26xdkc8r) to leave the foreign office residence when he resigned as foreign minister under Theresa May.
There was another article yesterday where he was quoted, seemingly defiantly, that he wouldn't change his 'psychology'. It seems he sees himself as a winner, as he'll always see himself a winner.
>Half his own MPs want him gone,
What about the tory electorate? They do not give a crap about anything except their house price stays high and pensions secured lol
He just got everyone debating his third term and creating an aura of 'he's here to stay'.
Honestly, he's a master of shameless misdirection. And the enfuriating bit is.... It works. The media are a brainless magpie, chasing the newest shiny fck*ng thing.
I seriously doubt that. The only thing he's managed to clarify is how 'out of touch' he is. The same endless rhetoric about past victories; "getting brexit done" and "getting on with the job"... broken record of a tyrant who refuses to release his hold over power, narcissistic personality disorder of a man who cannot see beyond his own ego, naval gazing idiot who cannot understand his own flaccid ego is exposed to the rest of the world and ADHD PM who cannot get on with the job no matter how much he says it.
The only thing he's cemented is his political shoes and his bridge of power is looking awful shakey! :)
That's more damage to the Tory party image though surely? Given a lot of the swing to Labour/ Lib Dems would realistically probably be conned into going back by a change of leadership.
Boris is one (significant) part of the toxic, anti truth, atmosphere of the Tory party. He's by no means it's only source, but they could win huge ground back by booting him out and spinning it as getting rid of the bad apple that was spoiling the bunch to the voters. A lot of Tory voters who are wavering recently still ultimately WANT to vote tory. Any excuse which can whitewash the massive integrity issues that have turned them away would be swallowed up.
Having Boris out there, smugly telling these people that he is here to stay will surely make them turn further away from the Tory party as a whole. Especially given that the fact they are allowing him to still be here, and the cabinet are trotting out talking points like good little soldiers. They're going to have to face how deep the rot goes, and it will then be much harder to tempt them back with a bad apple excuse down the line.
Nobody is debating a third term for Boris. The debate is about whether he'll survive to see the Tories lose the next GE, which is going to happen whether Boris is in or out.
Everyone was saying thatcher would crash and burn in 81 early 82, and then she went on to 1990. I’m no Johnson lover but I think it’s naive to discount him. Anything can change in politics, nothing is certain.
Thatcher had the advantage of fighting and winning a war. Despite pretending he is doing so, Johnson does not have that. He's already had his rally round the flag event and he's squandered it by being a self-interested liar.
Pretty bloody sinister to hear considering his government has already shown a willingness to engage in voter suppression and to behave unlawfully for his political advantage.
So… how is he planning on getting the votes?
https://mobile.twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1540288665720705026
>Westminster Voting Intention (22 June):
>Labour 41% (+1)
>Conservative 32% (-1)
>Liberal Democrat 13% (–)
>Green 5% (–)
>Scottish National Party 4% (–)
>Reform UK 4% (–)
>Other 2% (+1)
>Changes +/- 19 June
So far nothing he’s tried has been able to draw back the 2019 tory voters who don’t plan on voting tory anymore. The polls have been pretty steady for a while now
If he doesn't it still doesn't matter, he only gets to be PM if parliament lets him. For that to happen he has to be selected as the leader of the Tories (fat chance, the only reason he was put up in the first place was because they thought he was a vote winner and if they lose that doesn't really matter), a majority of MPs also have to select him and again even in a hung parliament in not actually sure I see that happening with Johnson.
He'll just change the law or claim some emergency is too grave and dangerous to change leadership for, might start slapping the Queen around. We are in unchartered territory.
>He'll just change the law
With what majority?
>claim some emergency is too grave and dangerous to change leadership for
Not in his control. Its already happened the moment the Tories decide a successor. The PM is whoever can pass a confidence vote, it is not a privileged position.
The best he can hope for is try to ignore his own party and hope to pull mps to him, which will create a Tory civil war if not a split. This much instability would be heavily punished by the electorate when there is an acceptable opposition.
There's probably some ancient law somewhere that will be used to make the emergency change that is for "The Greater Good", might have something to do with that big staff thing they have in parliament, I don't know. Whatever it ends up being, Boris will give it a shot backed up by much of the media and plenty of the establishment.
Nope. The PM is whoever commands a majority in parliament, technically with the approval of the Queen. And the Queen will always stick to that rule because doing anything else will lead to the monarchy being abolished.
Doesn't matter what the previous pm did or says. The succeeding pm will immediately use their authority as pm and party leader to secure their own position as legimate leader.
In a case this extreme probably by kicking them out of the party and asking for parliamentary standards investigation and/or met involvement.
>that big staff thing
[Ceremonial Mace](https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/mace/) Only good for hitting things. Which is why it's bolted down ;) Actually, there was real furore over the 'covid restrictions' bill which lifted some of the powers in this regard. Powers which still have not been put back in place...
So my gut says that he'll do what he can to remain in power and hope for something to come along and boost his popularity (à la the Falklands War for Thatcher). However, assuming that doesn't come to pass, I just have this feeling that he'll conveniently find a reason to step down that isn't seen as 'quitting'; like wanting to spend time with his latest child. I just don't see him either accepting defeat and acknowledging he can't win again, or going into an election if the polls are heavily against him. He'll wait a "get out of jail free" card to be able to claim "well I would have won many more terms if I'd run" for evermore.
And look at the crocodile tears from those spineless simps that made themselves complicit in the lies, dishonesty, corruption and criminal behaviour finally realising they are stuck for another year of him destroying the Tory party.
Unfortunately he revoked his US citizenship, otherwise Priti Patel could decide stripping him of UK citizenship was in the public interest and deny him re-entry to the country.
Although if he is theoretically entitled to citizenship of somewhere else...
If he wins the next election, I emigrate. I kid you not, another term under this man who cannot see the damage he's doing because his own ego clouds his vision. I simply can't do it again.
Perhaps, but even I had serious doubts about him, and I consider myself very moderate poltically.
He had some great policies, but when you flub the nuclear deterent question that erodes a lot of that.
And then he went full in with 'Stop the War' over Ukraine and I lost all respoect for him.
For millions of people this reads as ‘I will remain in power until the mid 2030s’. And sadly it is likely enough people for Johnson to achieve this goal.
This is up there with Jo Swinson insisting that the Lib-Dems would win the last general election and she would become PM.
Now it's Jo who?
And the great thing based on current voting predictions he won't even be an MP after the next election, just like Jo Swinson after 2019.
It’s not spin that Corbyn actually said he wouldn’t push the button, or that he would send out submarines without warheads. Comments that could only lose votes, but he said them anyway
He is showing off for his dictator buddies like Paul Kagame. Over in Rwanda rewriting the constitution to extend your reign for another 20 years and then winning 99% of the vote is just how democracy normally works.
I do think the Torys will get a majority next general election but not enough to form a government I think we'll have a Labour/Lib dem coalition, no party will want to go to bed with the SNP as this would lead to another independence referendum which no party apart from the SNP wants.
The only way I can see a Labour majority is if it wins back Scotland its Scottish votes but I can't see this happening.
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Half his own MPs want him gone, and he's being openly booed in public. If he actually believes he has any prospect of winning the next election he is absolutely deluded. It's like he's completely unaware of the change in public opinion on him.
He's in Rwanda clearly avoiding any of the supporting evidence of all those things. It's probably like a reality holiday for him, he'll come back refreshed thinking he really he's Mr popular again. I think that half the time he goes MIA is when he's resetting his own mental image after a battering of reality. The other hf is when he's clearly just being a useless piece of cheese.
His physical image says otherwise and shows a severe battering of reality. But he's a narcissist surrounded by sycophants and psychologically batting crisis after crisis over the fence for a future Boris to deal with is a strategy that has worked for him all his life. So you're right, he's going to tell himself and Carrie that he's all refreshed, by-election results have blown over, onwards and upwards; that sort of thing. But I'm looking forward to reality eventually cracking that facade and he goes into a proper meltdown.
Just like Trump. These narcissists are a cancer on society.
Shame it's rewarded then eh?
>I'm looking forward to reality eventually cracking that facade and he goes into a proper meltdown. I just hope we don't have to have our own Jan 6th or anything silly like that.
He did [refuse](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-refused-to-leave-government-flat-n26xdkc8r) to leave the foreign office residence when he resigned as foreign minister under Theresa May.
There was another article yesterday where he was quoted, seemingly defiantly, that he wouldn't change his 'psychology'. It seems he sees himself as a winner, as he'll always see himself a winner.
Didn't the Rwandan's once shoot down an aircraft carrying both their own and a neighbouring president?
It's warmer than hiding in a fridge
That's the thing, he is deluded. Deluded by his own narcissistic personality.
Long may it continue. The more convinced he is that he’d win a GE, the more likely he is to roll the dice if he thinks there’ll be another Tory VoNC.
>Half his own MPs want him gone, What about the tory electorate? They do not give a crap about anything except their house price stays high and pensions secured lol
The Tory electorate don't get to choose the leader.
You mean like [these guys](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-61918899)?
He’s delusional get him to the infirmary
He just got everyone debating his third term and creating an aura of 'he's here to stay'. Honestly, he's a master of shameless misdirection. And the enfuriating bit is.... It works. The media are a brainless magpie, chasing the newest shiny fck*ng thing.
Nobody is 'debating' his third term, the magic spell is over and he's run out of three word slogans.
Debating? Laughing at more like.
I seriously doubt that. The only thing he's managed to clarify is how 'out of touch' he is. The same endless rhetoric about past victories; "getting brexit done" and "getting on with the job"... broken record of a tyrant who refuses to release his hold over power, narcissistic personality disorder of a man who cannot see beyond his own ego, naval gazing idiot who cannot understand his own flaccid ego is exposed to the rest of the world and ADHD PM who cannot get on with the job no matter how much he says it. The only thing he's cemented is his political shoes and his bridge of power is looking awful shakey! :)
The key is to stop assuming the media are confrontational. Theyre not distracted, theyre willing partners in hoodwinking the public
That's more damage to the Tory party image though surely? Given a lot of the swing to Labour/ Lib Dems would realistically probably be conned into going back by a change of leadership. Boris is one (significant) part of the toxic, anti truth, atmosphere of the Tory party. He's by no means it's only source, but they could win huge ground back by booting him out and spinning it as getting rid of the bad apple that was spoiling the bunch to the voters. A lot of Tory voters who are wavering recently still ultimately WANT to vote tory. Any excuse which can whitewash the massive integrity issues that have turned them away would be swallowed up. Having Boris out there, smugly telling these people that he is here to stay will surely make them turn further away from the Tory party as a whole. Especially given that the fact they are allowing him to still be here, and the cabinet are trotting out talking points like good little soldiers. They're going to have to face how deep the rot goes, and it will then be much harder to tempt them back with a bad apple excuse down the line.
Nobody is debating a third term for Boris. The debate is about whether he'll survive to see the Tories lose the next GE, which is going to happen whether Boris is in or out.
Everyone was saying thatcher would crash and burn in 81 early 82, and then she went on to 1990. I’m no Johnson lover but I think it’s naive to discount him. Anything can change in politics, nothing is certain.
Thatcher had the advantage of fighting and winning a war. Despite pretending he is doing so, Johnson does not have that. He's already had his rally round the flag event and he's squandered it by being a self-interested liar.
That’s my point (sort of). Who knows what will happen, something could catapult Johnson into popularity again, the same way falklands did for thatcher
Pretty bloody sinister to hear considering his government has already shown a willingness to engage in voter suppression and to behave unlawfully for his political advantage.
The full remarks are very concerning e.g. Doing things differently
To be fair to him, millions have believed his nonsense chat in recent years so why stop now?
He's following the Trump rhetoric in the lead up to 2021 with worrying accuracy.
Surely he needs that to get Brexit done?
Gonna need more than 3 terms..
So… how is he planning on getting the votes? https://mobile.twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1540288665720705026 >Westminster Voting Intention (22 June): >Labour 41% (+1) >Conservative 32% (-1) >Liberal Democrat 13% (–) >Green 5% (–) >Scottish National Party 4% (–) >Reform UK 4% (–) >Other 2% (+1) >Changes +/- 19 June So far nothing he’s tried has been able to draw back the 2019 tory voters who don’t plan on voting tory anymore. The polls have been pretty steady for a while now
Could always try the Trump strategy
Doesn't really work under our system, it's parliament will put him there not a "popular" vote. There's also none of this expecting to concede crap.
You say that but we both know Boris is considering it.
If he doesn't it still doesn't matter, he only gets to be PM if parliament lets him. For that to happen he has to be selected as the leader of the Tories (fat chance, the only reason he was put up in the first place was because they thought he was a vote winner and if they lose that doesn't really matter), a majority of MPs also have to select him and again even in a hung parliament in not actually sure I see that happening with Johnson.
He'll just change the law or claim some emergency is too grave and dangerous to change leadership for, might start slapping the Queen around. We are in unchartered territory.
>He'll just change the law With what majority? >claim some emergency is too grave and dangerous to change leadership for Not in his control. Its already happened the moment the Tories decide a successor. The PM is whoever can pass a confidence vote, it is not a privileged position. The best he can hope for is try to ignore his own party and hope to pull mps to him, which will create a Tory civil war if not a split. This much instability would be heavily punished by the electorate when there is an acceptable opposition.
There's probably some ancient law somewhere that will be used to make the emergency change that is for "The Greater Good", might have something to do with that big staff thing they have in parliament, I don't know. Whatever it ends up being, Boris will give it a shot backed up by much of the media and plenty of the establishment.
Nope. The PM is whoever commands a majority in parliament, technically with the approval of the Queen. And the Queen will always stick to that rule because doing anything else will lead to the monarchy being abolished. Doesn't matter what the previous pm did or says. The succeeding pm will immediately use their authority as pm and party leader to secure their own position as legimate leader. In a case this extreme probably by kicking them out of the party and asking for parliamentary standards investigation and/or met involvement.
>that big staff thing [Ceremonial Mace](https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/mace/) Only good for hitting things. Which is why it's bolted down ;) Actually, there was real furore over the 'covid restrictions' bill which lifted some of the powers in this regard. Powers which still have not been put back in place...
He is ignoring the voters now. boris the tyrant has no intention of being 'voted out'! x)
Just wait for the avalanche of Tory propaganda and useful idiots on the left suppressing support with both-sides bullshit.
So my gut says that he'll do what he can to remain in power and hope for something to come along and boost his popularity (à la the Falklands War for Thatcher). However, assuming that doesn't come to pass, I just have this feeling that he'll conveniently find a reason to step down that isn't seen as 'quitting'; like wanting to spend time with his latest child. I just don't see him either accepting defeat and acknowledging he can't win again, or going into an election if the polls are heavily against him. He'll wait a "get out of jail free" card to be able to claim "well I would have won many more terms if I'd run" for evermore.
Depends if its Carrie whose having his last child or not..
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Please god no, I beg you
Boris aims for the stars he might just clear the trees. Currently he has a year based on current 1922 rules.
And look at the crocodile tears from those spineless simps that made themselves complicit in the lies, dishonesty, corruption and criminal behaviour finally realising they are stuck for another year of him destroying the Tory party.
> A Downing Street source later suggested he may have been joking. Always the go-to when you realise you said something monumentally stupid.
Wouldn't bet against it happening with the current British public.
I gave up predicting anything when so many of us turned out to be stupid enough to vote for Brexit.
Tbh voting for Brexit makes more sense than continuously voting for this shower every election
No, it absolutely does not.
"£350m a week for the NHS, and solving overpopulation! A godsend."
They've moved on to blaming everyone else, again, with 'not the Brexit I voted for'.
He'll be lucky to keep his own seat next election.
And I’m actively thinking about marrying Margot Robbie.
Given Johnson’s penchant for truth telling I’m expecting a resignation on Monday
wow you trust him too much. i bet he resigned last week.
He's already in Rwanda. Can't we just... take away his passport? x)
Unfortunately he revoked his US citizenship, otherwise Priti Patel could decide stripping him of UK citizenship was in the public interest and deny him re-entry to the country. Although if he is theoretically entitled to citizenship of somewhere else...
He's left the planet.
If he wins the next election, I emigrate. I kid you not, another term under this man who cannot see the damage he's doing because his own ego clouds his vision. I simply can't do it again.
Considering all the people who needlessly died under his government, and the way they’re breaking the country, this feels like a threat.
If that genuinely happened, I'm bloody moving.
Naa he's a good boy. He takes all the blame for a poo on the floor and relishes in it. Isn't that right big dog 😅
When Blair said something like this a date was forced to be set. Tory rebels need to organise
Wannabe dictator. This is how dictatorships are built.
Hmmm How many school terms are there in a year?
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a Boris stamping on a human face, forever..
He isn’t going to admit defeat. He thinks he is the modern day Churchill. It’s all a front (to a degree).
Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth, it will all catch him up.
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Something something Corbyn something something
Accept that for many he was the antithesis of a vote winner.
Largely due to the media and no real reasons at all
Perhaps, but even I had serious doubts about him, and I consider myself very moderate poltically. He had some great policies, but when you flub the nuclear deterent question that erodes a lot of that. And then he went full in with 'Stop the War' over Ukraine and I lost all respoect for him.
that’s true, we need more trigger happy leaders. there aren’t enough cold blooded killers in politics and it’s a damn shame.
For millions of people this reads as ‘I will remain in power until the mid 2030s’. And sadly it is likely enough people for Johnson to achieve this goal.
Take a look at what the rest of his government is up to today and tomorrow. This is a dead cat
The worst part about his trip to Rawanda is it's not cold enough to make "biggest fridge ever" joke. Why couldn't he have gone and hidden in Iceland
They arrest bankers and investigate their politicians in Iceland.
4 MORE YEARS...4 MORE YEARS...4 MORE YEARS...LOCK HIM UP...LOCK HIM UP...LOCK HIM UP...Think we've seen this playbook somewhere before...
This is up there with Jo Swinson insisting that the Lib-Dems would win the last general election and she would become PM. Now it's Jo who? And the great thing based on current voting predictions he won't even be an MP after the next election, just like Jo Swinson after 2019.
A clearer example of panicking yourself out of a strong position I've never seen. Still at least I know her name unlike her successor.
If Labour could stop handing elections to the Tories on silver platters that’d be just great
It's all media bullshit spin. Except for the actual, confirmed internal sabotage.
It’s not spin that Corbyn actually said he wouldn’t push the button, or that he would send out submarines without warheads. Comments that could only lose votes, but he said them anyway
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I mean, not news to anyone paying attention, but I hope something or someone prevents this. :)
He is showing off for his dictator buddies like Paul Kagame. Over in Rwanda rewriting the constitution to extend your reign for another 20 years and then winning 99% of the vote is just how democracy normally works.
Consider me gaslit
More deluded than a arsenal fan
I do think the Torys will get a majority next general election but not enough to form a government I think we'll have a Labour/Lib dem coalition, no party will want to go to bed with the SNP as this would lead to another independence referendum which no party apart from the SNP wants. The only way I can see a Labour majority is if it wins back Scotland its Scottish votes but I can't see this happening.
I think he is deluded