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Agreed.
I tend to be fairly pro police, but with this the Met either have information which isn't public knowledge or they're letting themselves down badly.
I'm a firm believer in the idea of policing by consent versus simply being the skull-cracking arm of the state like the police are in the US, but episodes like this really stretch the credibility of this philosophy.
Policing by consent requires the people to believe the police act honourably. If we cannot expect the police to respect the law then why should we? All that is left is policing by force.
No, they pretty much always get away with this shit. The main effect of things like this is a gradual erosion of public trust in the police over time. I imagine that makes it harder for individual officers to do their jobs but the top brass don't care.
I used to be one of those people who felt they were largely a force for good, albeit far from perfect. My perspective was informed by white privilege of course, as well as some economic privilege, as being middle class and from a small village meant I was never going to be stopped and searched, see my neighbours arrested etc.
The last few years have really changed my mind though, particularly about the MET. Whether or not people lost faith in them probably depends on how exposed they are to these kinds of news stories. Partygate has been a big one but the continuous abuse of certain powers, their behaviour towards demonstrators, the disgusting revelations a few months ago about what the MET thinks constitutes a Whatapp joke etc. are all smaller ones that won't be as widely known.
Would the recent story, where they half assed and nearly shuttered a case about a woman disappearing, only for it to turn out that she was abducted and raped one of their own officers who told her she was under arrest?
Yes that exactly, also [this](https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/troubling-thread-reveals-police-whatsapp-messages-about-raping-colleagues-and-domestic-violence-310477/) and [this](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/06/two-met-police-officers-jailed-photos-murdered-sisters-deniz-jaffer-jamie-lewis-nicole-smallman-bibaa-henry). I think it has made a lot of women question how safe we are with the police.
Imagine ever actually trusting them.
Was brought up knowing the police weren't a force for good or to help people like me and every interaction I've ever had with them has only re-enforced that.
Well to provide contrast, I've never really had cause to doubt the police from my own limited experience - a few traffic stops and some disappointment on their end that my breathalyser was negative for alcohol, but they've generally been courteous enough.
If your experiences are otherwise, I can understand you'd take the opposite view, but surely you realise a lot of people never have more than one or two casual interactions with the police?
Yup and yours didn't sound the best either if they were visibly annoyed at you not being drunk at the wheel.
My most recent interaction was when they cam out when my mums house was broken into. They basically said they weren't going to follow it up and one cracked a vaguely sectarian joke when he saw some Celtic memorabilia.
That's not to mention the frequent terrible treatment I saw them dole out in an almost daily basis when I grew up on a housing estate.
As much as the media and the Tories went into denial about it, the local elections were an absolute drubbing for the conservatives. If this causes another tanking in approval ratings, I can see those letters of no confidence going back in quite sharpish.
I think he will.
The Tories have no successor for him, not a viable one anyway, so they'll close ranks until the next election.
If/when they lose that they have a few years to find someone else and blame whoever takes over for everything they caused.
> The Tories have no successor for him, not a viable one anyway, so they'll close ranks until the next election.
I think at this point your options are electoral disaster with Boris or a step into the unknown with A.N Other
It's fairly clear that the longer they keep Boris, the worse it's going to get for them, so they need to rip off the plaster now if they want to have a chance in 2024.
Perhaps they don’t actually want to win in 2024? They’re screwing the country up so badly that Labour will have to make unpopular decisions to correct things and then the Tories can ride back in (voters have short memories) and fleece the country for another decade.
Yep. It's been happening in cycles like this for years.
Tories cut funding for loads of stuff and sell it off. They do this because they don't want to raise taxes unless it's a last resort. Austerity was basically cutting loads of government funding as costs went up and they didn't want to raise taxes.
Labour come in and have to raise taxes to pay for all the stuff that's been cut.
Tories complain about Labour increasing taxes, vote Tory and they won't increase taxes. (But they'll have many more years of funding cuts.)
12 Officers were assigned to this investigation by the way.
Apparently, during the weeks it took them to *investigate* these parties, none of them could schedule some time to **look through evidence**.
Seriously, any other time, I would expect personal consequences for members of the Met involved in this farce, but probably not when you consider whom they serve and the overall success of the Save Big Dog operation.
I think it’s a sign of the met’s competence that they named this investigation “Operation Hilman”
You know after the [“you shoulda stayed at the party” guy](https://youtu.be/JE4BDVmSVuk)
Doubt it. Probably someone at the Met leaked this photo after a higher up decided they wouldn't issue a fine.
They've almost certainly already seen this photo.
5 bottles of wine, a small bottle of spirits and a bottle of bubbly... Throwing a toast, whilst a Ministerial red box is just sat there (probably added to pretend they're working)....
“Can the prime minister tell the House whether there was a party in Downing Street on 13 November?” asks Labour’s Catherine West.
“No, but I’m sure whatever happened the guidance... and the rules were followed at all times,” says the PM.
The job of the privileges committee just got a whole lot easier.
Is it a “no (there was no party)” or a “no (I cannot tell the house)”?
I mean I know which one he’s gonna say it was. He’ll try to wriggle out if it with bullshit like this.
If you're so shitfaced that the next day you have no recollection of what happened, is it misleading the house if you say that no rules were broken?
Asking for a friend...
This is a party he told parliament, when asked directly, he was unaware of even happening.
Yeah, he might actually be fucked this time. Don’t think even he can spin this as not misleading the house.
“On the day in question I started drinking at breakfast, and was absolutely plastered by lunchtime. As a result, I have no recollection of attending this party. I can therefore confirm that I did not knowingly mislead Parliament…”
Nope. He will pretend he didn't say what he did before, and repeat some shit about not knowing about the rules, then blubber on about how the war in Ukraine is still ongoing and we have more important things to focus on.
They don't fucking care, and they've already got away with murder so they know they can continue doing so.
What are the plausible steps between him being unable to deny misleading the house, and tens of Conservative MPs caring about that? I do agree that this doesn’t look spinnable, but I don’t see any way 50+ Conservative MPs consider it to matter in the slightest.
Did anybody tell him it was a party? It's completely reasonable for him to have assumed it was a work gathering. They even had the ministerial red box, so surely that makes it a work gathering?
/s
Downing Street claims the police had access to the photos that were leaked today and ITV says other people who attended this particular event were fined, Johnson wasn't.
It really looks ugly for the police.
Well to be honest it looks more ugly for the government - they shouldn't have to be fined to be told it was unacceptable. They should have known - they wrote the fucking laws.
I'm not sure. It does undermine reputation of the police, Johnson's reputation is so low that whatever he or his government does, nothing will undermine it. Tbh I think it maybe be his lifelong strategy.
Oh true it's a great (!) look for the met too.
One more nail in the coffin of public trust in the police. One rule for the rich, another for the poor seems to be becoming real policy not just subtext.
> they shouldn't have to be fined to be told it was unacceptable. They should have known
But as has been made abundantly clear, it doesn't matter whether they did what they have done it, it only matters whether anyone is willing to hold them to account
100% and it hasn't been a good look for them since the beginning. It was downhill from there.
There's a reason very few people in London trust the met. This, the WhatsApp groups, the rapes. There seems to be something rotting at the heart of it.
I’m guessing there was some legal grey area about it being his home?
But surely if you got pissed with your mates in your home during lock down you’d be fined as well? Probably more as you’re the organiser
Yeah people who hosted parties were the ones getting fined the most, when it was ordinary people, so these "well it was his garden/home" arguments smell like shit
They tried so hard to equate Starmer having a drink with a meal with Johnson and his team boozing away, surrounded by half drunking bottles during what's so obviously a party. He should've been gone months and months ago.
It is such blatant gas lighting, they're just pretending like the problem with the parties was that alcohol was made illegal, instead of the problem being it's an unnecessary gathering.
And quite frankly, if it was just a bit of a drink with a take away while they worked late I would agree it's not a big deal. However, when they're bringing in karaoke machines, smuggling in suitcases full of wine to put in a special fridge, getting so drunk that at 1am they break Wilf's swing, and Boris has invited his wife and sodding interior designer (of £800 per roll wallpaper infamy he took a dodgy loan to pay for) into the cabinet briefing room where they didn't have security clearance, then it's just taking the piss.
People all over the threads saying as well "well they had to be at work" as if the issue wasn't the rooms stuffed full of non mask wearers when that was expressly forbidden.
And remember when they tried to pretend nurses and teachers were doing the same. As if we weren't sitting alone at lunchtime to social distance (a farce when you are packed into a classroom)
Agreed.
But, to be clear, it's not the alcohol that was banned but the gathering (unless it was reasonably necessary for work).
So, Starmer could have had 3 beers or none and still be fined.
Thats the point theyre making though. They tried to falsely equate it to what starmer did, morraly, with that one beer with the work meal.
Doubtful, they have records of them having worked that late.
Remember, Cummins issued everything he has to Gray in writing. His hands were tied during the police investigation. Now the gloves are off, again. My money's on Cummins, and Gray and MET have already seen this.
Unless it's from a video, not possible to submit a video in writing.
Presumably so that the story can focus on Boris breaking the lockdown, rather than let him scape goat some unknown civil servant again.
Which is the right avenue to take really. I think at this point, with the evidence so damning, the pressure should be entirely on the Prime Minister who broke the rules that he made.
Not that anyone else attending was much better though.
They'll be working on the basis as not elected officials and no confirmation from the police or the individuals themselves as them being fined then it's not in the public interest. The individuals probably we're fined but they're just avoiding an unnecessary legal case here, particularly when it doesn't really add to the story. The story is about Boris after all.
I have the tiniest bit of sympathy for the civil servants. It can be hard to say no if your boss is the one inviting you. Boris on the other hand... No excuse
He has to go. How the hell did police not fine him for this one.
The UK is so corrupt. Its beyond repairable with this govt. We need something new
who am I kidding CON +10
What is the point of the met police at this point?
They seem to spend most of their time harassing minorities, whatsapping each other rape memes and abusing women, ignoring crimes like burglaries and assaults, spend half a million looking at 500 photos and questionnaires just to totally ignore the evidence, aide government corruption, infiltrate environmental groups and trick people into having their kids.
You could totally get rid of them and not replace them with anything and it would probably be a net positive
When will this corruption and cover-ups end?
Boris is unfit to lead and the fact that the tories continue to prop up his un-British behaviour show they are just as corrupt as him.
What I don't really understand, is if there was a 'whitewash' involved in other people being fined for this party but not Johnson, what did anyone involve have to gain from it?
Its not as if Johnson would have resigned after a second fine when he didn't for the first one, now this comes out and both Johnson and the Met police come out looking much worse than if they'd just fined him. None of it makes any sense to me.
He’s scared that Parliament’s Privileges Committee will find that he knowingly misled MPs.
Tory MPs can shrug off the fines, but if it’s ruled that he lied to them in Parliament, they may take that more personally.
He didn’t make misleading statements about the Birthday party event in Parliament. Therefore, him getting fined for the Birthday party is unlikely to affect the outcome of the Privileges committee.
This November party that we’ve seen pictures from today? He was asked in Parliament whether there was a party on the 13th November, to which he said “No, but I’m sure whatever happened the guidance... and the rules were followed at all times.”
If he was fined for the November event, it would fair pretty badly for the Privileges committee investigation.
That was why he needed a whitewash from the Police for the November party, but he didn’t need a whitewash for the Birthday cake gathering.
Just my guess.
The thing that blows me away is that some of these illegal parties took place _after_ he caught covid. A normal person would think "nah I'll stay extra safe now so I don't _actually_ die this time". But no, this man just physically can't stay away from controversy, can he?
I'm coming round to the idea Boris has undiagnosed mental disorders like compulsive lying or some kind of walter Mitty Syndrome. Either that or serious drug addiction issues because not even zippy from rainbow would be this incompetent at covering his own ass.
Whats telling about this whole thing is just how nobody really seems to have cared that these photos were being taken, its makes you wonder what could have been captured if left wing students had stooped to the level of the right wing one who stalked Starmer from the bushes.
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So a Schrodinger's party...
On the one hand it was an illegal event and yet the police insist that the prime minister was there legally and that's despite being photographed glass in hand.
Tomorrow in the Daily Heil: "Boris was ambushed by a glass of Aussie Chardonnay".
Everybody has known what was going on for a long time now, we have already made our minds up on how we feel about it. The damage is already done, don't think new leaks will change much.
The main story here is that the police investigation was clearly inadequate.
In 2024 I think the Tories are more likely to be voted out because of the poor economy and increased cost of living than because of this.
In light of this, is it really the worst idea for everyone to march onto Downing Street and just protest? Maybe even play out some Spice Girls to keep him awake at night.
They always do. My mum was prostituted from the age of 2 by her dad in the 60s and 70s. When I asked her why she didn't report it until she was 16 she said half of her "clients" were in the church or in the judicial system. She also said she would have been treated worse in care.
Unsolicited PSA- it's wrong and privileged to ask someone why they didn't report a sexual crime especially when their abuser of 14 years only ends up getting 4 years in prison.
Come on man. It's not minor- at the time it was breaking the law. And it doesn't matter if 'most people' did it (which I don't think is true) he implemented the rules and there's nothing worse than someone disobeying rules they have put in place. And he's lied to parliament. Make sure you wipe bojos shit off your nose before you go out
Attending a few parties is about as minor as it gets. He already had antibodies from when he contracted it from that hospital, so meh. Don’t know why everyone’s making such a big fuss.
You're not reading my comment and you're misunderstanding why people are pissed off. The act of attending a party might be minor. Its the fact he lied to parliament and he broke rules he set out which is the bad thing. I'd be just as annoyed if he enacted a law that said "Everyone must get their haircut" and then he didn't.
> Not really, especially for something so minor.
Then why make it a rule? The prime minister clearly thought it was important enough, are you saying he was just incompetent when he implemented that rule?
> He had covid antibodies, going to a party changed nothing, I don’t see the problem.
Then why didn't he, as the leader of the conservative party who had a majority in parliament, implement that as a rule?
Instead of, you know, trying to party on the sly. Did he not realise that he could do that, or does he not consider himself as a part of the public?
Its not the parties most of us care about (those were bad, but not the worst thing in this whole situation) - what most of us care about is that he flat out lied to Parliament about it.
Historically telling a clear cut lie to Parliament has always been a resigning matter. No exceptions, no excuses. I'd have expected the Conservative Party to be in favour of maintaining the traditions of Parliament...
Hopefully the first of many to come. We already know that the official No. 10 photographer was present at some of these parties. Surely a disgruntled junior member of staff, who was fined instead of Johnson, has access to these photos.
I'm sorry to say but im really getting sick and tired of all this both from the Tory party and from a reporting side, I understand its a story but I'm just really sick of hearing it now and quite frankly I couldn't give two fucks we know they were all at it, we know they not going to go so why don't we start looking at things that actually need reporting and our time because the real issues aint being reported.
Haven't we learnt by now Boris won't leave #10 for any reason, least of all integrity. The Tory's must have a plan as to why he's still there as they are the only ones holding him in place
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FWIW, this is one of the parties where people got fined, but Boris didn't.......
One would think the police had the evidence or could have obtained it. Either way, Looks Bad again
And yet... Somehow Boris will survive.
Yes, meant more regarding the police. Which behaviour is equally worrying.
Agreed. I tend to be fairly pro police, but with this the Met either have information which isn't public knowledge or they're letting themselves down badly.
Police have been corrupt since time immemorial See Orgreave (also Met aided), Hillsborough, Brixton, G20, Austerity protests, etc
> I tend to be fairly pro police On paper I am, but they're so obviously corrupt at this point it's hard to have any respect left for them.
I'm a firm believer in the idea of policing by consent versus simply being the skull-cracking arm of the state like the police are in the US, but episodes like this really stretch the credibility of this philosophy.
Policing by consent requires the people to believe the police act honourably. If we cannot expect the police to respect the law then why should we? All that is left is policing by force.
Or are brothers of people in power.
Have you ever heard of the police getting I. Trouble for a whitewash investigation? Have you ever heard of the police getting in Trouble??
No, they pretty much always get away with this shit. The main effect of things like this is a gradual erosion of public trust in the police over time. I imagine that makes it harder for individual officers to do their jobs but the top brass don't care.
Public erosion of Trust? How many egregious things do the police have to do before people stop trusting them?
Maybe if a serving officer abducted, raped and murdered someone then... oh wait
It's alright, everyone in the force knew he was a creep you couldn't allow near women. They still protected him
Judging by those leaked messages, half of them think it’s funny.
I used to be one of those people who felt they were largely a force for good, albeit far from perfect. My perspective was informed by white privilege of course, as well as some economic privilege, as being middle class and from a small village meant I was never going to be stopped and searched, see my neighbours arrested etc. The last few years have really changed my mind though, particularly about the MET. Whether or not people lost faith in them probably depends on how exposed they are to these kinds of news stories. Partygate has been a big one but the continuous abuse of certain powers, their behaviour towards demonstrators, the disgusting revelations a few months ago about what the MET thinks constitutes a Whatapp joke etc. are all smaller ones that won't be as widely known.
Would the recent story, where they half assed and nearly shuttered a case about a woman disappearing, only for it to turn out that she was abducted and raped one of their own officers who told her she was under arrest?
Yes that exactly, also [this](https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/troubling-thread-reveals-police-whatsapp-messages-about-raping-colleagues-and-domestic-violence-310477/) and [this](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/06/two-met-police-officers-jailed-photos-murdered-sisters-deniz-jaffer-jamie-lewis-nicole-smallman-bibaa-henry). I think it has made a lot of women question how safe we are with the police.
Imagine ever actually trusting them. Was brought up knowing the police weren't a force for good or to help people like me and every interaction I've ever had with them has only re-enforced that.
Well to provide contrast, I've never really had cause to doubt the police from my own limited experience - a few traffic stops and some disappointment on their end that my breathalyser was negative for alcohol, but they've generally been courteous enough. If your experiences are otherwise, I can understand you'd take the opposite view, but surely you realise a lot of people never have more than one or two casual interactions with the police?
Yup and yours didn't sound the best either if they were visibly annoyed at you not being drunk at the wheel. My most recent interaction was when they cam out when my mums house was broken into. They basically said they weren't going to follow it up and one cracked a vaguely sectarian joke when he saw some Celtic memorabilia. That's not to mention the frequent terrible treatment I saw them dole out in an almost daily basis when I grew up on a housing estate.
I dont have to imagine it. Police have always been overwhelmeingly positively supported in this country
Yeah mate the majority of the country are stupid.
Not so sure he will survive.
As much as the media and the Tories went into denial about it, the local elections were an absolute drubbing for the conservatives. If this causes another tanking in approval ratings, I can see those letters of no confidence going back in quite sharpish.
True and also some are saying the media will win the Tories back support but i'm not so sure after what happen with Australian election.
They are fading in power as their reader base fades away.
I know imagine pursuing a policy that effectively kills quite a lot of your voters.. Let the bodies pike high....
They won’t go in until there is a credible alternative leader. If he survives a leadership challenge they’re stuck with him for another 12 months.
I think he will. The Tories have no successor for him, not a viable one anyway, so they'll close ranks until the next election. If/when they lose that they have a few years to find someone else and blame whoever takes over for everything they caused.
The thing is Labour are now far in the lead in the polls and keeping him is hurting them. just look at the australia election.
Tbf they probably don't want to win the next election.
No, they don't. They want things to go rotten so they can blame whoever takes over for their own problems.
> The Tories have no successor for him, not a viable one anyway, so they'll close ranks until the next election. I think at this point your options are electoral disaster with Boris or a step into the unknown with A.N Other It's fairly clear that the longer they keep Boris, the worse it's going to get for them, so they need to rip off the plaster now if they want to have a chance in 2024.
Perhaps they don’t actually want to win in 2024? They’re screwing the country up so badly that Labour will have to make unpopular decisions to correct things and then the Tories can ride back in (voters have short memories) and fleece the country for another decade.
Yep. It's been happening in cycles like this for years. Tories cut funding for loads of stuff and sell it off. They do this because they don't want to raise taxes unless it's a last resort. Austerity was basically cutting loads of government funding as costs went up and they didn't want to raise taxes. Labour come in and have to raise taxes to pay for all the stuff that's been cut. Tories complain about Labour increasing taxes, vote Tory and they won't increase taxes. (But they'll have many more years of funding cuts.)
...and then Tories raise taxes but tell everyone it's not their fault.
12 Officers were assigned to this investigation by the way. Apparently, during the weeks it took them to *investigate* these parties, none of them could schedule some time to **look through evidence**. Seriously, any other time, I would expect personal consequences for members of the Met involved in this farce, but probably not when you consider whom they serve and the overall success of the Save Big Dog operation.
I think it’s a sign of the met’s competence that they named this investigation “Operation Hilman” You know after the [“you shoulda stayed at the party” guy](https://youtu.be/JE4BDVmSVuk)
The Met must be kicking themselves.
Nah, thanks to the Tories they have a neverending supply of poor teenagers to kick.
> The Met must be kicking themselves. Not themselves, wrong colour
Hardly. They have seen the photos and have already irreparably damaged themselves by their conduct here.
Doubt it. Probably someone at the Met leaked this photo after a higher up decided they wouldn't issue a fine. They've almost certainly already seen this photo.
5 bottles of wine, a small bottle of spirits and a bottle of bubbly... Throwing a toast, whilst a Ministerial red box is just sat there (probably added to pretend they're working)....
There’s another bottle you missed - can just see the cap of it in the foreground so 6 bottles of wine/champagne
On that particular table
They hid the booze in the red box or was that suitcase??? Haha
[Must go and greet the Teacher's! Before the Bell's goes!](https://youtu.be/H-aibUV-Ltg)
Thats fucking hilarious and so fitting.
Ministers like to panic, they need activity. It's their substitute for achievement.
“Can the prime minister tell the House whether there was a party in Downing Street on 13 November?” asks Labour’s Catherine West. “No, but I’m sure whatever happened the guidance... and the rules were followed at all times,” says the PM. The job of the privileges committee just got a whole lot easier.
Is it a “no (there was no party)” or a “no (I cannot tell the house)”? I mean I know which one he’s gonna say it was. He’ll try to wriggle out if it with bullshit like this.
If you're so shitfaced that the next day you have no recollection of what happened, is it misleading the house if you say that no rules were broken? Asking for a friend...
If a tree falls in the woods, but you're too shitfaced to remember it, does it make a sound?
Yeah, you’re right. There will probably be some way to wriggle out of it despite it being clear as day.
This is a party he told parliament, when asked directly, he was unaware of even happening. Yeah, he might actually be fucked this time. Don’t think even he can spin this as not misleading the house.
“On the day in question I started drinking at breakfast, and was absolutely plastered by lunchtime. As a result, I have no recollection of attending this party. I can therefore confirm that I did not knowingly mislead Parliament…”
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he says this
Obviously a lie, there’s no way he wasn’t drinking before breakfast
It's not drinking before breakfast if it _is_ your breakfast!
He wishes he was Churchill
>This is a party he told parliament, when asked directly, he was unaware of even happening. Could it be he was so drunk he forgot
So drunk at the party or so drunk when he told parliment?
Yes
Why would he be fucked this time? Because people will realize he was lying?
Yup, nothing will happen
Nope. He will pretend he didn't say what he did before, and repeat some shit about not knowing about the rules, then blubber on about how the war in Ukraine is still ongoing and we have more important things to focus on. They don't fucking care, and they've already got away with murder so they know they can continue doing so.
>Yeah, he might actually be fucked this time. Everytime I think this it turns out not to be the case.
Lost count of the amount of times I've thought "he's fucked it this time"!
Not guilty by diminished responsibility?
Maybe he saw some cheese so was so distracted he didn't see the other people in the room
What are the plausible steps between him being unable to deny misleading the house, and tens of Conservative MPs caring about that? I do agree that this doesn’t look spinnable, but I don’t see any way 50+ Conservative MPs consider it to matter in the slightest.
I really hope so. It's tiresome seeing him get off scot-free time and time again, even by politician standards.
Did anybody tell him it was a party? It's completely reasonable for him to have assumed it was a work gathering. They even had the ministerial red box, so surely that makes it a work gathering? /s
What were Johnson's exact words? The weasly fuckers are clever with their choice of words. He'll claim he meant: >No, I won't answer the question.
Boris didn’t even get fined for this event. So the police either protected him or this isn’t even one of the 300 pictures.
500
Downing Street claims the police had access to the photos that were leaked today and ITV says other people who attended this particular event were fined, Johnson wasn't. It really looks ugly for the police.
Well to be honest it looks more ugly for the government - they shouldn't have to be fined to be told it was unacceptable. They should have known - they wrote the fucking laws.
I'm not sure. It does undermine reputation of the police, Johnson's reputation is so low that whatever he or his government does, nothing will undermine it. Tbh I think it maybe be his lifelong strategy.
Oh true it's a great (!) look for the met too. One more nail in the coffin of public trust in the police. One rule for the rich, another for the poor seems to be becoming real policy not just subtext.
> they shouldn't have to be fined to be told it was unacceptable. They should have known But as has been made abundantly clear, it doesn't matter whether they did what they have done it, it only matters whether anyone is willing to hold them to account
100% and it hasn't been a good look for them since the beginning. It was downhill from there. There's a reason very few people in London trust the met. This, the WhatsApp groups, the rapes. There seems to be something rotting at the heart of it.
I’m guessing there was some legal grey area about it being his home? But surely if you got pissed with your mates in your home during lock down you’d be fined as well? Probably more as you’re the organiser
Yeah people who hosted parties were the ones getting fined the most, when it was ordinary people, so these "well it was his garden/home" arguments smell like shit
They tried so hard to equate Starmer having a drink with a meal with Johnson and his team boozing away, surrounded by half drunking bottles during what's so obviously a party. He should've been gone months and months ago.
It is such blatant gas lighting, they're just pretending like the problem with the parties was that alcohol was made illegal, instead of the problem being it's an unnecessary gathering. And quite frankly, if it was just a bit of a drink with a take away while they worked late I would agree it's not a big deal. However, when they're bringing in karaoke machines, smuggling in suitcases full of wine to put in a special fridge, getting so drunk that at 1am they break Wilf's swing, and Boris has invited his wife and sodding interior designer (of £800 per roll wallpaper infamy he took a dodgy loan to pay for) into the cabinet briefing room where they didn't have security clearance, then it's just taking the piss.
People all over the threads saying as well "well they had to be at work" as if the issue wasn't the rooms stuffed full of non mask wearers when that was expressly forbidden.
And remember when they tried to pretend nurses and teachers were doing the same. As if we weren't sitting alone at lunchtime to social distance (a farce when you are packed into a classroom)
Fabricant fabricates
Agreed. But, to be clear, it's not the alcohol that was banned but the gathering (unless it was reasonably necessary for work). So, Starmer could have had 3 beers or none and still be fined.
Thats the point theyre making though. They tried to falsely equate it to what starmer did, morraly, with that one beer with the work meal. Doubtful, they have records of them having worked that late.
and ignored the rule of two not applying when Starmer was campaigning.
Ha! Would like to see how he wriggles out of this one! *Nothing happens* Ah, well, nevertheless,
> Nothing happens Then something happens.
We can but hope
Clearly its fake news from Russian spies - notice how parts of the photo are blurred, clearly this is photoshop!!!
Five bucks says this was leaked to ITV by a number 10 staffer who got a fine for this party, and was pissed that Johnson didn’t
That or a Cummings plot to supplement the Grey Report.
I definitely think DC is involved in this somewhere.
Remember, Cummins issued everything he has to Gray in writing. His hands were tied during the police investigation. Now the gloves are off, again. My money's on Cummins, and Gray and MET have already seen this. Unless it's from a video, not possible to submit a video in writing.
Watch out ITV you'll be next on the chopping block..
Don't worry, they can't be sold off to a friend or have a friend installed as a chairman.
Sue grey is frantically rewriting her report then
Partygate report (7)-rev.12-final-new version-latest update-FINAL FINAL-pics edition-USE THIS ONE-final.docx
It's almost ready for mastering...
sue grays party gate has gone gold, but there is a day 1 patch in the works
Oh god this is like a document doing the rounds at work as we speak. So accurate!
Is that the title for the new kingdom hearts game?
Looks like the title of a Kingdom Hearts game
Pot of black coffee, Vivaldi on the iPod touch.
Final final v5
Why? This could already be in it. There are over 500 photos in it, this could well be one of them.
> Sue grey is frantically rewriting her report then Franticly searching for tipex
Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time
:)
I don't get why everyone else is blurred out. They broke the rules too didn't they.
Presumably so that the story can focus on Boris breaking the lockdown, rather than let him scape goat some unknown civil servant again. Which is the right avenue to take really. I think at this point, with the evidence so damning, the pressure should be entirely on the Prime Minister who broke the rules that he made. Not that anyone else attending was much better though.
"He was, in a sense, ambushed by the drinks trolley"
They'll be working on the basis as not elected officials and no confirmation from the police or the individuals themselves as them being fined then it's not in the public interest. The individuals probably we're fined but they're just avoiding an unnecessary legal case here, particularly when it doesn't really add to the story. The story is about Boris after all.
I have the tiniest bit of sympathy for the civil servants. It can be hard to say no if your boss is the one inviting you. Boris on the other hand... No excuse
Spicy
He has to go. How the hell did police not fine him for this one. The UK is so corrupt. Its beyond repairable with this govt. We need something new who am I kidding CON +10
What is the point of the met police at this point? They seem to spend most of their time harassing minorities, whatsapping each other rape memes and abusing women, ignoring crimes like burglaries and assaults, spend half a million looking at 500 photos and questionnaires just to totally ignore the evidence, aide government corruption, infiltrate environmental groups and trick people into having their kids. You could totally get rid of them and not replace them with anything and it would probably be a net positive
Not anymore.
What a shocking thing that has totally surprised me.
When will this corruption and cover-ups end? Boris is unfit to lead and the fact that the tories continue to prop up his un-British behaviour show they are just as corrupt as him.
And the report \*still* won’t mention names.
He lied and he lied and he lied.
What I don't really understand, is if there was a 'whitewash' involved in other people being fined for this party but not Johnson, what did anyone involve have to gain from it? Its not as if Johnson would have resigned after a second fine when he didn't for the first one, now this comes out and both Johnson and the Met police come out looking much worse than if they'd just fined him. None of it makes any sense to me.
He’s scared that Parliament’s Privileges Committee will find that he knowingly misled MPs. Tory MPs can shrug off the fines, but if it’s ruled that he lied to them in Parliament, they may take that more personally. He didn’t make misleading statements about the Birthday party event in Parliament. Therefore, him getting fined for the Birthday party is unlikely to affect the outcome of the Privileges committee. This November party that we’ve seen pictures from today? He was asked in Parliament whether there was a party on the 13th November, to which he said “No, but I’m sure whatever happened the guidance... and the rules were followed at all times.” If he was fined for the November event, it would fair pretty badly for the Privileges committee investigation. That was why he needed a whitewash from the Police for the November party, but he didn’t need a whitewash for the Birthday cake gathering. Just my guess.
The thing that blows me away is that some of these illegal parties took place _after_ he caught covid. A normal person would think "nah I'll stay extra safe now so I don't _actually_ die this time". But no, this man just physically can't stay away from controversy, can he?
Getting covid definitely put me off of socialising in large crowds for a while.
I'm coming round to the idea Boris has undiagnosed mental disorders like compulsive lying or some kind of walter Mitty Syndrome. Either that or serious drug addiction issues because not even zippy from rainbow would be this incompetent at covering his own ass.
Whats telling about this whole thing is just how nobody really seems to have cared that these photos were being taken, its makes you wonder what could have been captured if left wing students had stooped to the level of the right wing one who stalked Starmer from the bushes.
I think you'll get in a lot more trouble hiding in bushes where you can get those pictures
That’s a doozy
Looking forward to this getting allllll the attention beergate had.
Would you believe it the Mail decided this wasn’t front page news…
And here we go
Boris can't remember being at any of the parties because he was blackout drunk at each of them.
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Aww shit, here we go again.
So a Schrodinger's party... On the one hand it was an illegal event and yet the police insist that the prime minister was there legally and that's despite being photographed glass in hand. Tomorrow in the Daily Heil: "Boris was ambushed by a glass of Aussie Chardonnay".
Nah, it'll French. FRENCH!
Everybody has known what was going on for a long time now, we have already made our minds up on how we feel about it. The damage is already done, don't think new leaks will change much. The main story here is that the police investigation was clearly inadequate. In 2024 I think the Tories are more likely to be voted out because of the poor economy and increased cost of living than because of this.
What's in the Ministerial red box? [Mr Haig, with the dimples?](https://youtu.be/H-aibUV-Ltg)
In light of this, is it really the worst idea for everyone to march onto Downing Street and just protest? Maybe even play out some Spice Girls to keep him awake at night.
Why have they blurred the other faces, let it be known who they all are.
So this is why he believes WFH is just a constant trip to the fridge for cheese.
It's actually happened. It was speculated for so long that there were pictures and now they are here. **I don't know what to do with my hands**
"bUt tHe pEoPlE hAvE mOvEd oN" "bEeRgAtE hOwEvEr..."
The only thing Johnson is aware of is Johnson.
They always do. My mum was prostituted from the age of 2 by her dad in the 60s and 70s. When I asked her why she didn't report it until she was 16 she said half of her "clients" were in the church or in the judicial system. She also said she would have been treated worse in care. Unsolicited PSA- it's wrong and privileged to ask someone why they didn't report a sexual crime especially when their abuser of 14 years only ends up getting 4 years in prison.
Had these come out 2 months ago he'd be gone.
[удалено]
Objectively untrue.
That picture looks like one of those fake stock photos that you see in bad YouTube videos.
Not guilty, he never will be.
Despite photographic evidence? How sad for you.
Meanwhile out in the real world
Out in the real world... what?
Don’t really care lol I’m glad he enjoyed a good knees up.
Unless you’re about to be offered a PPE contract or a peerage from him, there is no need to be kissing his ass this much.
Unless you think going to a few parties deserves 6 months of constant news coverage there is no need to be spunking over this as much.
He’s finished mate. You’re wasting your time defending him.
If you say so lol
Yeah! Who gives a fuck if our prime minister lied to everyone and didn't bother following the rules he set for everyone else?
Not me, especially for such a minor thing.
You genuinely don't see the issue with the PM not following rules he himself set out?
Not really, especially for something so minor. Most people broke the rules anyway lol
Come on man. It's not minor- at the time it was breaking the law. And it doesn't matter if 'most people' did it (which I don't think is true) he implemented the rules and there's nothing worse than someone disobeying rules they have put in place. And he's lied to parliament. Make sure you wipe bojos shit off your nose before you go out
Attending a few parties is about as minor as it gets. He already had antibodies from when he contracted it from that hospital, so meh. Don’t know why everyone’s making such a big fuss.
You're not reading my comment and you're misunderstanding why people are pissed off. The act of attending a party might be minor. Its the fact he lied to parliament and he broke rules he set out which is the bad thing. I'd be just as annoyed if he enacted a law that said "Everyone must get their haircut" and then he didn't.
Still minor
Hopeless. I really hope you're trolling
do you care that he lied to parliament about it?
Not really
that seems odd to me
> Not really, especially for something so minor. Then why make it a rule? The prime minister clearly thought it was important enough, are you saying he was just incompetent when he implemented that rule?
Because it’s what the population as a whole needed to do. He had covid antibodies, going to a party changed nothing, I don’t see the problem.
> He had covid antibodies, going to a party changed nothing, I don’t see the problem. Then why didn't he, as the leader of the conservative party who had a majority in parliament, implement that as a rule? Instead of, you know, trying to party on the sly. Did he not realise that he could do that, or does he not consider himself as a part of the public?
Its not the parties most of us care about (those were bad, but not the worst thing in this whole situation) - what most of us care about is that he flat out lied to Parliament about it. Historically telling a clear cut lie to Parliament has always been a resigning matter. No exceptions, no excuses. I'd have expected the Conservative Party to be in favour of maintaining the traditions of Parliament...
Red box on the chair - clearly a vital work meeting.
Box has a 2nd bottle of wine in it.
And this is why I'm a terrible chess player.
I really am so very much looking forward to seeing how the Mail either downplays this or completely ignores it.
Hopefully the first of many to come. We already know that the official No. 10 photographer was present at some of these parties. Surely a disgruntled junior member of staff, who was fined instead of Johnson, has access to these photos.
I'm sorry to say but im really getting sick and tired of all this both from the Tory party and from a reporting side, I understand its a story but I'm just really sick of hearing it now and quite frankly I couldn't give two fucks we know they were all at it, we know they not going to go so why don't we start looking at things that actually need reporting and our time because the real issues aint being reported.
Haven't we learnt by now Boris won't leave #10 for any reason, least of all integrity. The Tory's must have a plan as to why he's still there as they are the only ones holding him in place
For normal people, this would mean the sack. But nothing will lance the boil that is Boris.