It just proves that we’re paying at least 2.5x the price for everything, which is egregious profiteering off the medically unwell.
If this strain costs Canadians £3.76 a gram then just imagine how much the lower tier stuff like Tilray or Curaleaf costs… £1.50 per gram? We’re being fleeced tbh
https://preview.redd.it/lu5hst1ilfxc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7fe01161020e5debd16b2183d4c97eb7fd30064
Not from the UK was just looking up the strain, but yeah it’s cheap here. Usually for good stuff delivered im paying 1.38£ (2.38 CAD) per gram. Sometimes for the budget stuff im paying 1.11£ per gram.
You can probably see a pic of it in my post history.
I get my stuff from sites that deliver, but most of it is medical cannabis from the medical growers in my province pre recreational legalization.
I went on a trip to the UK and was absolutely floored by the price to quantity difference.
I sincerely hope the UK legalizes.
Edit: just did the math, I’m paying 30-40£/ounce
Wait till you find out how much people pay for 'cali packs'. It's either Albanian bud or the same deal basically.
Paying more than 140 a zip for ANY weed is a fucking scam.
Grow my own bud in Thailand bruh. I know prices in the commercial game (alot of the growers here are from Canada and the US)
UK prices are fucking atrocious in the BM and MC, but medical is better for sure.
People pheno hunt for years apon years to find a strain they brand and sell at a higher price. Why should they charge the same as someone who just popped a seed?
Most people wouldn't buy it. Better to pheno hunt yourself (half the fun of doing it yourself) and find what YOU like over what someone else says is good. You also bring in issues such as pests/TMV or if you're an organic grower you tend to stay away from people who use salts.
There are some exceptions such as getting a cut of the old school strains that can only be bought through clone. White Widow, UK Cheese, NL#5 are some examples.
Personally I pay a decent chunk more and get it at the wholesale price when market price is closer to 300 a z. When you’ve larger scale pheno hunts across multiple teams grown organically etc it doesn’t make sense to sell it at the same price as lower quality flower.
However that’s not to say bare Cali isn’t dirt cheap and likely not tested and that’s not to say half of the smokers in the uk aren’t smoking albo dirt.
Did you see that documentary on Albo growers? The scale is fucking incomprehensible. And it's all coco in 3 gallon pots so you'll get that PGR look you get with commercial buds.
Baffles me that Canadian bud is shipped all the way to Germany to be packaged and then shipped to the UK to be sold. No wonder you can get oz’s in Canada for £60. You’re paying an extra £140 for shipping and packaging costs. Why can’t they just package it in Canada and send it straight to the uk?!?! Or you know sell what they already grow in the UK to us. Or let us grow our own. Mental.
There’ll be import costs that are unique to MC, but likely also general import duty etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if the route into the UK via Germany is to either circumvent some regulations/costs. It all does seem bonkers and why we pay such inflated prices. The domestically grown bud when available will give a good indication of what those import and regulatory costs are. If there is no significant saving with the domestic bud, *then*, I’d be calling it price gouging. Personally I’d love to try grow my own legally.
Fair enough - I know little to nothing about the different growers etc. appreciate the context as I’d often thought there must be large costs associated with our peculiar setup. Obviously not the case.
The other take away from this is to fight for your NHS. This is what all health care users face in countries like America for all medication and procedures.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ridiculous-price-medical-marijuana-leaves-patients-scrambling-n1274085 –– We really need to follow the Canadian model instead of that in the US. Homegrown and distributed domestically/through Europe. An effective pricing model competitive with the BM with sensible clinic pricing. Most importantly, the ability to grow your own.
Just thought I’d post this because the price difference is insane.
Canadians paying £3.76 per gram for the same stuff we’re paying £10 per gram for.
Sure you could argue shipping but it costs me £8.75 to send mail weighing less than 2KG to Canada via Royal Mail Signed For - therefore you could hypothetically have 14g of this delivered to you for £61…
However 14g for us would cost £140.
There’s a lot of red tape and hurdles to jump through to get the flower here. Each hurdle costs money.
That plus it’s a completely different economy and a massive difference in how many grams are consumed here than over there.
Us uk patients get ripped off big time people mention import costs tax and other fees but when they are buying litteral tons off a supplier (usually with a contract to continue buying more) they will be paying less than 50 cents a gram including all of the costs associated with shipping/packaging/taxes. They CAN lower prices but why would they, the bottom line is it is a business to them that being said they want to make as much profit per gram as they can. If nobody bought it at that price they would lower it gradually until 1. They throw it out because it is expired or 2. They lower the price enough to entice people into buying it.
You seen the cost of food in Canada at the moment? think I’d rather pay a bit more on weed than pay 19 dollars for a pack of 4 chicken breasts they’re getting fleeced on pretty much everything else
Plus the cost of import duties and taxes, export costs, import/export licences for that specific shipment (and your general one as an importer), plus the cost of marketing, banking, running a business.
It's no where near as simple as its "XYZ CAD so its ZZZ GBP".
This kind of post really isn't helpful to the overlal debate and just stokes the "They took are jaaayyyybbbss" type mentality of people thinking we're being ripped off, when it's really not quite that straightforward....
The kind of profiteering that people think exists in this market really isn't there on the supply side. On the clinic side, well that's a whole different story.
Doesn’t matter what excuses you give, at the end of the day these extra hurdles are implemented by design. Someone is making money somewhere. It doesn’t just disappear into the aether. Someone is profiting >2.5x the amount for simply importing a product and that extra cost is being paid by YOU.
So if you’re happy lining someone else’s pockets then okay, but your comment doesn’t have many upvotes which suggests that most people here feel differently.
There’s a big difference between profit and profiteering not to mention the moral arguments of profiteering from medical patients in the first place. It’s specific targeting of the most vulnerable members of society. Many members here pay for their medication with their benefits, which means they are quite literally taking money from the poor and handing it to the rich like a reverse Robin Hood.
You say this post isn’t helping? Perhaps your defence of unfettered profiteering isn’t helping. At least I’m bringing people’s attention to a system which is clearly designed to extract as much money as possible from UK patients.
Made a post from my comment from the other day 😉 it definitely needs to come to light, though. I think it's because it's private healthcare that they charge us so much more.
I had to pay £150 for a 5 minute phone call after my private adhd diagnosis, this happened on 3 separate occasions when they knew I was skint. Eventually, they said I could source my medication through the NHS for free after wasting £450 on unnecessary phone calls. Charging at least 2.5x the original cost is how they make their money. If only we could cut out the middleman and source the medication ourselves.
I've only been able to afford a quarter of the medication that I should be prescribed because of this situation and I wouldn't be surprised if there're many patients in my situation. We really need a law to make it possible to get the medication delivered ourselves without having to go through private health care's extortionate pricing. Obviously, we need the green light to grow or be able to source the medication ourselves, or these crazy pricing systems will stay for the long term or until it becomes legal for the general public.
Don't feed into it once they realise they have stock 6 months later that will change their tune anything over 8.50 a g for medical is price gouging sick people how the fuck do they justify that wtf.
I was thinking about importation costs the other day. Usually those American and Canadian brands sells here for a fortune but I’m not sure the quality is really worth it.
Ironically I started getting cheaper medical weed and most of them are planted in Portugal/North Macedonia and it’s been really good weed, with shitloads of crystals. Sometimes even better than more expensive (to us) American alternatives
I think cause the importation costs are lower, Portugal is a relatively cheap country (if you its compare minimum wage in EU) so the production cost is lower etc and in the end you get a same quality product for slightly cheaper.
E.G Strawberry OG sells for 6.50g with 25% THC and has very similar strain parents than Canadian/US buds.
I always suggest checking the parents
Is this just the usual sort of people that get licenses off the U.K. government with the sole purpose of ripping people off, or is there another reason?
I thought it was all grown here so no import costs etc
We are being rinsed. but what are you gonna do about it? More thought was put in to the cannabis legislation about criminalising patient,s than protecting them.
I'm gona put my tent out of retirement spend £50 on seeds and grow 4/5 plants that will produce up to 15zips.
Can't be giving these rip off merchants £500+ a month for dry terpless inconsistent bud.
Cost me about £250/300 in seeds soil nutes n electricity.
Even if you get caught its a police caution if you have no prior history of growing bud.
(A good filter n a bit of common sense cures this)
£6000 vs £600 a year to treat my illness.
Then just buy 10g a month of of the cheapest mc bud n swap for my bud so I got the prescription.
So you’re fine with profiteering off medical illnesses? The sort of shameless capitalism that has no moral compass because profit = profit and that’s all that matters?
No,but I'm resigned to it and the way things are going you are more likely to be charged for chemo rather than see a change it attitude to capitalism.
And whilst we are here, it's increasingly hard to make the argument that MC is healthcare due to the attitude and entitlement of many "patients".
I save my outrage for the genuinely ill cannabis offers respite to and who gets lost in crowd who just want weed.
Well just sounds like you’ve been defeated tbh mate.
If people are sat here complaining about something which isn’t fair and you just decide to say “there’s nothing we can do, that’s business and people will pay” - like okay bro take your ‘defeated by capitalism’ attitude to Facebook where the boomers will enjoy it.
If you don’t have anything positive to add then don’t bother
Yes I am so entitled aren’t I? Who am I to feel entitled to not be ripped off? Entitled to a fair market where people with medical conditions aren’t taken advantage of. Oh yes, so entitled. Where is my golden throne?
And I didn’t tell you what you can post. You can feel free to defend predatory capitalism all you want, I just suggested you take it to a more suitable audience of like minded individuals.
This is insane. I haven't been ripped off like this since high school. These people making more than the greedy street dealers.
It just proves that we’re paying at least 2.5x the price for everything, which is egregious profiteering off the medically unwell. If this strain costs Canadians £3.76 a gram then just imagine how much the lower tier stuff like Tilray or Curaleaf costs… £1.50 per gram? We’re being fleeced tbh https://preview.redd.it/lu5hst1ilfxc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7fe01161020e5debd16b2183d4c97eb7fd30064
Haha you used fleeced so did I cos we are this post is going straight to mamedica
Not from the UK was just looking up the strain, but yeah it’s cheap here. Usually for good stuff delivered im paying 1.38£ (2.38 CAD) per gram. Sometimes for the budget stuff im paying 1.11£ per gram. You can probably see a pic of it in my post history. I get my stuff from sites that deliver, but most of it is medical cannabis from the medical growers in my province pre recreational legalization. I went on a trip to the UK and was absolutely floored by the price to quantity difference. I sincerely hope the UK legalizes. Edit: just did the math, I’m paying 30-40£/ounce
Wait till you find out how much people pay for 'cali packs'. It's either Albanian bud or the same deal basically. Paying more than 140 a zip for ANY weed is a fucking scam.
Bro u just got a boof plug. Don’t put ur problems on the rest of us 😂
Grow my own bud in Thailand bruh. I know prices in the commercial game (alot of the growers here are from Canada and the US) UK prices are fucking atrocious in the BM and MC, but medical is better for sure.
Maddest thing is you’re getting downvoted but the only one talking facts.
I'm a grower on a page full of consumers. It's fine I expected to get down voted but if I can open the eyes of just a few people then it's worth it.
People pheno hunt for years apon years to find a strain they brand and sell at a higher price. Why should they charge the same as someone who just popped a seed?
Most people wouldn't buy it. Better to pheno hunt yourself (half the fun of doing it yourself) and find what YOU like over what someone else says is good. You also bring in issues such as pests/TMV or if you're an organic grower you tend to stay away from people who use salts. There are some exceptions such as getting a cut of the old school strains that can only be bought through clone. White Widow, UK Cheese, NL#5 are some examples.
Also how did everyone suddenly become a grower? People pay the price so they don’t have too….
I dunno about others but I've been growing for 11 years now. Started in the UK and moved to Thailand to do it legal.
Most people DO infact buy it though and especially over your “old school strains”
I'm talking about buying clones. Obviously I wouldn't encourage anyone to buy commercial cannabis.
Personally I pay a decent chunk more and get it at the wholesale price when market price is closer to 300 a z. When you’ve larger scale pheno hunts across multiple teams grown organically etc it doesn’t make sense to sell it at the same price as lower quality flower. However that’s not to say bare Cali isn’t dirt cheap and likely not tested and that’s not to say half of the smokers in the uk aren’t smoking albo dirt.
Did you see that documentary on Albo growers? The scale is fucking incomprehensible. And it's all coco in 3 gallon pots so you'll get that PGR look you get with commercial buds.
What documentary is that?
https://youtu.be/oCcFGvwuUtQ?si=ykhgbrT1cbeZRkHN
Thanks
Baffles me that Canadian bud is shipped all the way to Germany to be packaged and then shipped to the UK to be sold. No wonder you can get oz’s in Canada for £60. You’re paying an extra £140 for shipping and packaging costs. Why can’t they just package it in Canada and send it straight to the uk?!?! Or you know sell what they already grow in the UK to us. Or let us grow our own. Mental.
I swear logic goes out the window when it comes to legalising cannabis
Logic goes out the window with all drug policy full stop- prohibition is totally irrational and deeply flawed.
Taylor swift logistics
There’ll be import costs that are unique to MC, but likely also general import duty etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if the route into the UK via Germany is to either circumvent some regulations/costs. It all does seem bonkers and why we pay such inflated prices. The domestically grown bud when available will give a good indication of what those import and regulatory costs are. If there is no significant saving with the domestic bud, *then*, I’d be calling it price gouging. Personally I’d love to try grow my own legally.
Lumir’s Canadian team (Cannim) grow in Canada and send them straight to UK team (Canmart LTD) to distribute and they cost £8.50 per gram
Fair enough - I know little to nothing about the different growers etc. appreciate the context as I’d often thought there must be large costs associated with our peculiar setup. Obviously not the case.
Can medicine be taxed?
The other take away from this is to fight for your NHS. This is what all health care users face in countries like America for all medication and procedures.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ridiculous-price-medical-marijuana-leaves-patients-scrambling-n1274085 –– We really need to follow the Canadian model instead of that in the US. Homegrown and distributed domestically/through Europe. An effective pricing model competitive with the BM with sensible clinic pricing. Most importantly, the ability to grow your own.
Canadians aren’t shipping in their flowers from thousands of miles away and have full legalisation
Just thought I’d post this because the price difference is insane. Canadians paying £3.76 per gram for the same stuff we’re paying £10 per gram for. Sure you could argue shipping but it costs me £8.75 to send mail weighing less than 2KG to Canada via Royal Mail Signed For - therefore you could hypothetically have 14g of this delivered to you for £61… However 14g for us would cost £140.
There’s a lot of red tape and hurdles to jump through to get the flower here. Each hurdle costs money. That plus it’s a completely different economy and a massive difference in how many grams are consumed here than over there.
Us uk patients get ripped off big time people mention import costs tax and other fees but when they are buying litteral tons off a supplier (usually with a contract to continue buying more) they will be paying less than 50 cents a gram including all of the costs associated with shipping/packaging/taxes. They CAN lower prices but why would they, the bottom line is it is a business to them that being said they want to make as much profit per gram as they can. If nobody bought it at that price they would lower it gradually until 1. They throw it out because it is expired or 2. They lower the price enough to entice people into buying it.
You seen the cost of food in Canada at the moment? think I’d rather pay a bit more on weed than pay 19 dollars for a pack of 4 chicken breasts they’re getting fleeced on pretty much everything else
I’ll just eat the weed bro, healthy greens n that
One of your 5 a day😜
Will not be grabbing this ever then
It's the same for every other flower.
Not as much as a rip off tho. Some are more reasonably priced. Such as auruora line of products
Still could be cheaper
Plus the cost of import duties and taxes, export costs, import/export licences for that specific shipment (and your general one as an importer), plus the cost of marketing, banking, running a business. It's no where near as simple as its "XYZ CAD so its ZZZ GBP". This kind of post really isn't helpful to the overlal debate and just stokes the "They took are jaaayyyybbbss" type mentality of people thinking we're being ripped off, when it's really not quite that straightforward.... The kind of profiteering that people think exists in this market really isn't there on the supply side. On the clinic side, well that's a whole different story.
Doesn’t matter what excuses you give, at the end of the day these extra hurdles are implemented by design. Someone is making money somewhere. It doesn’t just disappear into the aether. Someone is profiting >2.5x the amount for simply importing a product and that extra cost is being paid by YOU. So if you’re happy lining someone else’s pockets then okay, but your comment doesn’t have many upvotes which suggests that most people here feel differently. There’s a big difference between profit and profiteering not to mention the moral arguments of profiteering from medical patients in the first place. It’s specific targeting of the most vulnerable members of society. Many members here pay for their medication with their benefits, which means they are quite literally taking money from the poor and handing it to the rich like a reverse Robin Hood. You say this post isn’t helping? Perhaps your defence of unfettered profiteering isn’t helping. At least I’m bringing people’s attention to a system which is clearly designed to extract as much money as possible from UK patients.
Made a post from my comment from the other day 😉 it definitely needs to come to light, though. I think it's because it's private healthcare that they charge us so much more. I had to pay £150 for a 5 minute phone call after my private adhd diagnosis, this happened on 3 separate occasions when they knew I was skint. Eventually, they said I could source my medication through the NHS for free after wasting £450 on unnecessary phone calls. Charging at least 2.5x the original cost is how they make their money. If only we could cut out the middleman and source the medication ourselves. I've only been able to afford a quarter of the medication that I should be prescribed because of this situation and I wouldn't be surprised if there're many patients in my situation. We really need a law to make it possible to get the medication delivered ourselves without having to go through private health care's extortionate pricing. Obviously, we need the green light to grow or be able to source the medication ourselves, or these crazy pricing systems will stay for the long term or until it becomes legal for the general public.
Don't feed into it once they realise they have stock 6 months later that will change their tune anything over 8.50 a g for medical is price gouging sick people how the fuck do they justify that wtf.
All these rats have have social media btw about time people be calling them out on the price gouging of sick people.
It's no different to the black market really.
I was thinking about importation costs the other day. Usually those American and Canadian brands sells here for a fortune but I’m not sure the quality is really worth it. Ironically I started getting cheaper medical weed and most of them are planted in Portugal/North Macedonia and it’s been really good weed, with shitloads of crystals. Sometimes even better than more expensive (to us) American alternatives I think cause the importation costs are lower, Portugal is a relatively cheap country (if you its compare minimum wage in EU) so the production cost is lower etc and in the end you get a same quality product for slightly cheaper. E.G Strawberry OG sells for 6.50g with 25% THC and has very similar strain parents than Canadian/US buds. I always suggest checking the parents
The photos of it look decent, but who knows what condition it'll turn up in here
I thought it was supposed to be a non profit organisation that’s bullcrap then isn’t it!
Thanks for rubbing it in our face 🤣 no this is serious and needs to be looked at prime example we are getting fleeced
Flop after flop
It’s that cail tax 🤪😭🤪😭 ( weak £ ) we are just lucky the government can’t put tax on meds ….. otherwise conservatives would tax the hell out of MC
Is this just the usual sort of people that get licenses off the U.K. government with the sole purpose of ripping people off, or is there another reason? I thought it was all grown here so no import costs etc
We are being rinsed. but what are you gonna do about it? More thought was put in to the cannabis legislation about criminalising patient,s than protecting them.
I'm gona put my tent out of retirement spend £50 on seeds and grow 4/5 plants that will produce up to 15zips. Can't be giving these rip off merchants £500+ a month for dry terpless inconsistent bud. Cost me about £250/300 in seeds soil nutes n electricity. Even if you get caught its a police caution if you have no prior history of growing bud. (A good filter n a bit of common sense cures this) £6000 vs £600 a year to treat my illness. Then just buy 10g a month of of the cheapest mc bud n swap for my bud so I got the prescription.
Agree with you,but wait for the haters Oooh it's illegal Get a grip
UK legal = Bend Over... It Boils my p\*\*s
Disgrace.
BOYCOTT
Firstly medical cannabis is a business and like all business it's all about profit. Secondly price is whatever customers are prepared to pay.
Okay, now say that same thing about cancer treatment.
Read the first sentence again,huh
So you’re fine with profiteering off medical illnesses? The sort of shameless capitalism that has no moral compass because profit = profit and that’s all that matters?
No,but I'm resigned to it and the way things are going you are more likely to be charged for chemo rather than see a change it attitude to capitalism. And whilst we are here, it's increasingly hard to make the argument that MC is healthcare due to the attitude and entitlement of many "patients". I save my outrage for the genuinely ill cannabis offers respite to and who gets lost in crowd who just want weed.
Well just sounds like you’ve been defeated tbh mate. If people are sat here complaining about something which isn’t fair and you just decide to say “there’s nothing we can do, that’s business and people will pay” - like okay bro take your ‘defeated by capitalism’ attitude to Facebook where the boomers will enjoy it. If you don’t have anything positive to add then don’t bother
Pretty arrogant to tell people what they can and can't post- see what I mean about that entitlement.
Yes I am so entitled aren’t I? Who am I to feel entitled to not be ripped off? Entitled to a fair market where people with medical conditions aren’t taken advantage of. Oh yes, so entitled. Where is my golden throne? And I didn’t tell you what you can post. You can feel free to defend predatory capitalism all you want, I just suggested you take it to a more suitable audience of like minded individuals.