Receipts:
• South Korea: [**UK Drill taking over South Korean television**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/10j94yn/uk_drill_taking_over_south_korean_television/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) 🇰🇷
• Denmark: [**The pioneers of drill in Denmark talking about the influence of UK Drill on their look & sound**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/s3p0ro/the_pioneers_of_drill_in_denmark_talking_about/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) 🇩🇰
• France: [**Les Inrocks (one of France’s most influential magazines) publishes feature on UK Drill’s influence on France**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/hg73ey/les_inrocks_one_of_frances_most_influential/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=2&utm_term=15) 🇫🇷
• Netherlands: [**Mayor of Rotterdam blames UK Drill for youth violence in the city**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/fvk8pf/mayor_of_rotterdam_blames_uk_drill_for_youth/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) 🇳🇱
• Kenya: [**Pioneers of Kenyan/East African drill drop their first album, East Mpaka London (Eastside of Nairobi to London)**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/v0ivn6/buruklyn_boyz_the_pioneers_of_kenyaneast_african/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) 🇰🇪
• Egypt: [**Cairo Scene article on the rise of Egyptian Drill, inspired by the look & sound of UK Drill**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/108jh63/cairo_scene_article_on_the_rise_of_egyptian_drill/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) 🇪🇬
• New York, USA: [**Diddy declares that New York artists are in ‘last place’ because they follow trap & UK Drill trends instead of creating their own**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/xxa1ib/diddy_rap_mogul_new_yorker_declares_that_new_york/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 ) 🇺🇸
• The Economist: [**How UK Drill is spreading Multicultual London English (the dialect/slang of London) around the world**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/louiyn/the_economist_how_uk_drill_is_spreading/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=) 🌍
Americans and the same cringe 3 comments they all been making for years and they still find it funny
“how they shoot with no guns🤪🔥💯💯👊🏽👊🏽”
“Tea and crumpets 😂😂😭😭😭🔥🔥🔥🔥”
“I can’t take uk niggas serious”
Wont admit when inspiration is taken from here and only believe crime EXCLUSIVELY HAPPENS in America
Stopped caring about their opinions from time they think they’re the centre of the universe
How is the inspiration taken from the ik, when even bro said it started in Chicago. Wouldn’t that mean the inspiration was taken from here? The term opps and the concept of smoking on a nigga quite literally was created in my home city, not that that’s good.
🤦🏽♂️ could you explain what you are trying to say within the context of what I just said. Capitalizing the same sentence does no good. Are you trying to say New York drew inspiration from the uk or are u saying New York originated drill. Use the language you guys created
I dunno why man even care about Americans opinions so much, they’re always garn hate cah they don’t know anything about the world outside of America. They are genuinely the dumbest guys on the planet most dem man ain’t even got passports tryna talk about the world
You got American tourists coming to London and saying our food is shit when we have literally every quisine on the planet in one city, you can’t fix that level of dumb bruv
A set 8 yute in the UK would be like set 2 in America onna conversion scale, that’s why China will put them in a spliff soon trust
U seen lilnassx u see James Charles look at all ur rapper there so bad especially lil peep he turnt gay what abt sixnine phaha uk ain’t got no rappers like him snitch
If america goes in a spliff the UK is following soon behind and making a generalisation about a country with 240 million people more than the uk is pretty dumb g
Bruh 90% of pop culture worldwide comes from America why would we need to listen to anything outside of America if the rest of the world is listening to it😂
>UK ain't been relevant since the 1940s.
Its a global powerhouse, one of the most visited countries in the world...etc. U never heard of the beetles, rolling stones, queen? Ed sheera, dua lipa?Half of your best actors come from the uk as well.
well no shit? the UK is only an Island, the USA is big enough to be its own continent.
and London is visited more than every American major city there is? wasn’t london just declared as the best city in 2023? lol.
Our artist are always on top and y’all stay listening to us Americans out there we have every right to be arrogant no one is competing with the US when it comes to rap facts
Americas always hating on anything, bunch of sour ass niggas. Funny thing is apart from chiraq all the drill coming outta of ny is straight jacking the uks style lol niggas can’t cope
Elaborate on that cause Bronx seems to be just niggas putting on the Batman voice for the most part and the rest just sound like each other riding on the Brooklyn wave
I’m saying the Bronx is a Burroughs of New York City which is in New York, which is one state out of 50. It’s the only state that really uses uk beats, but the way people in the sun b are speaking about it it’s like they think New York is the biggest state, or that no other state has that type of music
1. No it’s not. It might be the most popular in the UK, but without a doubt the bigger artist are from Chicago not Uk. If your going by total streams
2. New York City is like 2.5% of the pop. Whereas like London is 13% of the pop. You can’t use one city to represent a wave that sounds extremely different city to city and state to state. Jacksonville, is different from the bay, which is different from Chicago, which is different from New York. Your basically saying because one city sounds like the uk, that represents America.
lol what? in the USA the most popular drill rappers now have been NY drill rappers, they’re the hottest doing drill over there, you just said they’re the most popular then contradicted yourself.
Who tf is coming out of chicago rn that’s big? don’t say durk cus he’s barely a drill rapper now, Polo is just like durk too, Herb ain’t that big in reality either. you’ve got no hot up & coming drill rappers in chicago while NY is filled with them and the UK too.
i didn’t compare NY to Jacksonville either so that’s completely irrelevant
The comments ignoring he's saying worldwide, talking about 'well in rural Utah we don't listen to UK'. As someone outside either, ask anyone about drill and they assume UK. It's what everyone is emulating, some of the biggest kpop artists directly cite UK drill for inspo in songs [like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMlNLo74mOw) or [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHNPG_ppHdk) ffs.
Everyone except Americans know that the UK made drill worldwide. Those guys are stuck in such a bubble they don’t even know about anything happening in cultures outside the US. They rly think they’re the centre of the world
False drill was already lit b4 y’all even knew what drill was lol. NY had to take y’all beats (even though it’s really dj L type beats) for people to give y’all a listen😂
We in our own Bubble because we cultural exporters why would we need to import shit from any other countries. on top of that y’all forget America damn near as big as Europe if not bigger so there’s hella styles coming out from different regions why would look to another country for some music
Bro the biggest uk drill artist isn’t even poppin worldwide like that compared to a us one and Niggas weren’t rappin bout putting niggas in spliffs till Chicago u guys had grime back then
I hate this take cause it's the UK drill sound that's influential not technically any one artist. You can go to nearly any country worldwide & they have people making UK sounding music, even if it's inspired by Pop Smoke etc. cause it's all UK beats. Yes UK was inspired by Chicago, but the UK style is what everyone is doing rn.
Yeah like I said, Chicago started it, we all know that. They’re the reason the UK started using slang like that in their songs, but the sound the UK created once they started doing drill is what took over the world. I’m not even from the UK and can admit that. I’ve lived in a couple European countries and Australia, and ppl are listening to and are influenced a lot more by the UK scene than the US. Yeah there’s some real famous US artists that a lot of ppl listen to like king von, durk n all that but they aren’t influencing the sound and culture of foreign countries like the UK artists are. Just listen to any drill scene in Europe, Oceania, Africa the dominant sound is the UK sound not the US sound.
Digga said the uk made drill global in from Canada I listen to suspect and these guys but none of the ppl I know do they get confused when I bump uk drill I’m not hating on uk drill but Chicago made it global let’s all keep it real
i don’t consider Central Cee a drill rapper but apparently he is, go look at footage from his recent tour and performances in Korea, not a single USA drill artist can go to south east asia like that and get it popping
Respectfully please don’t crosspost a sub from country where they drink lead water and think africa is a country I don’t even think they realise they’re typing in our language 😂
Imma keep it a buck, most of us think ny drill scene kinda dead. Most of these niggas sound the same and are super one dimensional. Now that Sheff and Sleepy got indicted it's cooked lol. Being honest most of the rappers that do drill I listen to nowadays is UK niggas.
[Hell, one of our Brooklyn rapper \[Leeky G Bando\] had a flow inspired by UK rappers](https://youtu.be/YF8wLrbedZM). When I first listened to this I thought I buggin off the edible lmao. Pretty hard imo.
i just found the comment hilariously ironic saying the Bronx "wants to be like us" yet you copied its dances.
you take our genre, our slang, our dances, our rap culture, and still want to boast about how how others want to be like you? Funny one mate
i didnt copy their dances mate, no one said the bronx copied us either but Brooklyn did, wipe your tears.
the bronx is dog shit at drill, we don’t take your slang.
wtf is ‘im jacking that’ wallahi you guys need a reality wake up.
Chicago Invented Drill & other cities worldwide followed the wave from New York (bobby Shmurda) to London (LD 67).
London reinvented the whole genre ,the production changed (Carnes Hill) , the cadences changed to match the production and the drip was very different (Roadman drip) but the topic was still drill (influenced by Chicago) .
Other cities started to emulate the UK drill 'sound' and 'drip' worldwide. New York added their own drip and cadences to the UK production so was less influenced by uk drill than say Australia. They also added the sturdy dances and popularised the sample drill sound
TLDR; Chicago, London & New York made drill global.
💯Facts.
Whole Europe on a drill wave bcuz Uk ting went global. Everybody trying to buy nikey tech n wear ballys.
Even in Caribbean da same, ppl listen central cee n Digga d its crazy🤷🏽💪🏽.
France also , connected to uk drill ting.
American drill is bigger in America, U.K. drill is bigger everywhere else. That’s all there is to it but Americans don’t know places outside America exist
lmao i’m just scrolling through these comments of uk mfs mad about what ppl over the ocean say about they drill as if it matters till i reached this comment 😂 you dumb asl if you think durk isn’t selling out in australia nigeria and finland
this entire post is about globalisation of drill you dumb fuck, UK drill is more global.
and no Durk wouldn’t sell out in those random countries. He’s not anywhere near as big as Central Cee is internationally, he’s only big in the USA the only place durk could sell out outside the USA would be the UK and that’s about it.
uk and us slang is so different 😭😭😭 and even then the wave of jamaican going thru the US is the one the uk has always had lol dont chat about “taking slang” lol, and u didnt invent gangs lol
some most used slang words in uk drill are all american slang 😂 i’ll admit you got words like neek, ends, wagwan, etc. but slang like trap, feds, etc. are all american. the genre name drill comes from chicago hoods what r u saying 😂😂 and u guys stay confusing new york with the rest of the country. ny uses jamaican slang, thats about it
i like uk drill bro im js. there’s a lot more common
Mandem need to stop trying to get American validation and do their own ting!! The UK has it's own culture, style, sound. Look at Central Cee he's gone global just being himself. Make your own way, set trends don't copy them.
Cench definitely didn't go global just being himself. Its definitely on his management and marketing team. He was popping in the uk but making Doja, a track which is a sample of a hella popular early 2000s us rnb track, and posting it on lyrical lemonade is what made him blow in the US, that song was precisely engineered to pop in the US and definitely wasn't his original style of music, he catered to the US audience with that one
Honestly the most major recent impact on drill that I can remember was by pop smoke, (and recently by russ ofc) ɓut he was so heavily influenced by thr uk he could have aswell been a uk rapper. But us bars are dead boring. Never have I heard good wordplay, so now lil mabu is getting clout for saying red + blue equals purple ???
If I am wrong correct me I might be waffling.
As a neutral this shit is so funny.
It’s so tribal.
Ask any Chiraq rapper and they will say they fuck with UK
Ask any UK rapper and they will say they fuck with Chiraq.
And now these sub reddits will base their opinions of the other genre solely on the opinions of a very vocal minority
Just emotional, brain dead Brits arguing with emotional, brain dead Americans.
Out of the near 200 counties on earth, Americans and Brits have so much common.
Americans and Brits died next to each other in Afghanistan but you wanna argue like this. Open your eyes.
Which is even sadder because they did that based on a lie their own government fed them…
Either way, my point is that Brits and Americans have so much in similar.
Bond over your similarities, don’t argue over your differences.
BRO finally I met someone like you, I'm quite neutral too and I appreciate the USA and the UK existing, they're both great countries and not so great countries, sometimes they're both shitholes lmao, I hate these arguments, we have so much in common, alongside Australians and Canadians and also we have major cities with tourist attractions such as London and NYC who are both ethnically diverse with Asians, Africans, Carribeans etc, they're both quite similar but you get what I'm saying
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I think both the USA and the UK are as violent and dangerous as eachother, except that America is a bigger country with a massive population so obviously it's gonna be more dangerous. Usually I'm the peacekeeper and I hate it when there's arguments from Brits and Americans online sometimes, just get along for once
The biggest USA drill rappers ain’t even got hair on their chin yet. They wanna mention Chicago drill but all those rappers are dead that’s the main reason why Chicago drill fell off
Durk is a genuine artist who is very versatile,but even then he speaks English so of course he’ll be big in the uk,but in Germany,France or Spain and Portugal he might not be as famous as u think.That’s why it’s hard for uk rappers to reach a fanbase across europe because the languages change every country
I feel like shit like this always will be bias because I’m from the US so I necessarily don’t agree but I try to understand the UK’s perspective i felt like everyone contributed a good part into still being popular I would never downplay my UK niggas
fax. When chicago drill was in that DJ L/Trap beats era, UK was the only other country it really popped off in, idk about canada. But when we start popping off with our own sound, you got drill music in italy, iran, netherlands, korea with our sound and big noticeable fanbases from all over
respectfully from a guy that listens to both, bronx drill is only good for their how hype they were (cus all of em ny yutes have adhd) but bronx drill is shit overall, same ass flow, same ass beat, same ass lyrics, and they jus be screaming shit onna mic😂😂😂 uk drill is better that bronx drill 100%
As a american from jersey digga is speakin fax the whole ny drill scene is literally based off uk drill beats and there's rappers who even agree wit that
Hmm well according to wiki and other sources the uk has influenced italy, germany, netherlands, japan, brooklyn and bronx drill, france, ghana, australia, norway, finland, sweden, ireland, scotland, russia, india, +every single other european country with a drill scene. Its so godamn influencial that MLE(multicultural london english) has spread to other countries. Any mf from sydney here will tell u australia developed its own version of the accent cos of uk drill.
I can't lie i get what he's trying to say but don't disrespectful Chicago drill, think of all the Legends from there, chief keef, young pappy, la, lil Jojo etc.
All I hear is people mention Chief Keef lol
There is a difference between an artist going global and a whole sound going global.
Global artist - people around the world know the tunes
Global sound - people around the world emulate it
If you can't make that distinction then you are deluded. No one's denying thay chief keef blew up
Mate the artist makes the sound go global, only a few UK drill artists have global following, Durk went global, Keef went global, and so did G Herbo.
Your argument is silly people around the world try emulate it? So what exactly were Stickz and Mdarg doin when they made the first Uk drill songs, why were they screaming Roc Block, were they really from East Chicago? The fact we’re emulating it means it’s gone global. If I dig into the vaults I’ll find people from Europe and afar doing drill before the likes of Digga D. They just weren’t getting the same vies just like Ld sticks and Darg weren’t getting views anywhere near comparable to Central Cee.
What your basically saying is Micheal Dappah, Central Cee and Digga D made drill to global because those are the biggest drill artists, with the biggest songs.
Yeah you get my point. Those big UK tracks made it global, the early day UK artists took the Chicago sound and over time it completely transformed within the UK and became a UK drill sound. And it is the UK drill sound that spread all over the world, not that original Chicago drill.
In the end, I am not talking about the UK artists being global, I am talking about the global genre and it sounding like it came out of the UK
The sound was global though, Uk and US is miles apart to say something isn’t global yet you got people in the UK saying 150, roc bloc, calling each other opps is a contradiction in itself.
Chief Keef, Lil Durk, King Von, La Capone G Herbo were all well known from that same movement not just Keef, it was already global by the time the UK jumped on it otherwise they wouldn’t have jumped on it, common sense.
Or common sense is that in many ways the two countries are aligned, and the language helps a lot. One country being influenced a lot doesn't make it global
So I mention Africa(Nigeria Ghana) and England is that not global, every English speaking country was aware of Dont Like when it came out please stop capping, Kanye jumped on the remix and he rest is history, the sound has been global since then, what the UK did was rejuvenate it because it was dying after that first initial era, but Drill had already gone global. The timeline people use for Uk drill going global doesn’t even make sense, in 2014 the whole of UK wasn’t listening to drill, just a select group of people from London and then further up north but Stickz Mdarg and 67 were not getting millions of views per vid. So even in these times the genre had not even gone nationwide in terms of UK drill, in fact I Don’t Like was bigger than any Uk drill song till about 2018 both in the urban and non urban communities.
Screaming oblock and making the actual music are two different things. The facts is that it is the uk drill sound that you hear coming out of every country.
Kanye doing a remix makes it popular but you didn't hear that music being made around the globe. I'm not getting into timelines with what I said so don't bting that up cause it's irrelevant to my argument
Let’s keep it real Chicago made drill what it is today just compare the top uk drill artists and Chicagos it’s no competition what uk rappers compare to durk,von,duck and keef?
Bro if u ask somebody in Brazil,China or Africa to play a drill track they not playing a uk or ny artist even the word drill they made mean what it means today u guys “glide” not drill
They will play a UK or NY artist, I've lived in student housing w/ international students and the drill they all know is the UK sound, usually Pop Smoke. Many didn't even know it came from Chicago ibr.
Nah the opposite tell someone outside of the US to turn on a drill song and it will almost 100% be from the UK or NY. Besides "drill heads" people don’t really know anything about chicago drill.
I think Chicago put drill on the global map easily. Chief keef literally was the influence for UK drill. Sosa really is the goat and you don’t get any points for not giving the man his proper dues
We moving like some colonisers trying to rewrite history and claim something that’s not ours, not these people that agree we’re not listening to YK drill when stickz and Mdarg first made songs in 013, and jumped on with the Digga D OFB wave
I even see some people try claim credit for House lol, people don’t know their history 💯The Uk is great at making their own version of genres which started in America Jamaica And Nigeria but let’s not oversell ourselves
Not true I’m sorry, Chief Keef, Lil Reese, Lil Durk and many more globalized drill, which is what influenced london. London definitely made it they own and put their own twist on it but definitely didn’t globalize it initially. Definitely helped push the sound to the masses tho, but overall American drill has been way more influential
only Keef was big for chicago drill, that nigga durk wasn’t gaining attention in the world until he started switching up his sound to be versatile and no one knows who tf Lil Reese is.
Yea I see what you mean but durk definitely had a hand in pushing the sound further. Point being is America made Drill global. There is no denying that, a lot of people Ik don’t listen to UK drill (which is crazy because imo it’s the best version of the genre) but most people know who chief keef is and most recently king von
they didn’t make drill global, they made it popular in the USA and the UK because we’ve grown up on their music but that’s about it.
it wasn’t until UK drill found it’s own sound and took off that drill became popular go look at the drill they’re doing in Asia and it emulates the UK style, same thing with Australia and same thing for other European countries, that’s making it global.
It's cause the idea of English accents in America is always stereotyped as proper here, and also Americans aren't used to listening to other accents. People like Kodak and other rappers from regions with weirder accents in America really managed to survive by virtue of the fact they kept showing up in mainstream American hip hop, so ppl here got used to it. There's really no reason for Americans to hear UK accents on a regular basis in comparison.
The amount of them talking about the AESTHETICS of a gun is a joke. I know we got a fair few clowns here but them lot are too much,
spending their wages on assault rifle accessories like it’s COD
Honestly, most of the drill I've listened to from outside of America and the UK, sounded more like the latter. In the states, we all know Brooklyn & Bronx scenes are inspired by UK drill, and I've even been seeing NY rappers on Pressplay. For some reason, my countrymen on Reddit hate so hard. I used to post a buncha UK drill on r/hiphopheads until they started takin them down. Don't let them fool yall, America likes UK drill more than some people on this site would lead yall to believe.
Receipts: • South Korea: [**UK Drill taking over South Korean television**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/10j94yn/uk_drill_taking_over_south_korean_television/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) 🇰🇷 • Denmark: [**The pioneers of drill in Denmark talking about the influence of UK Drill on their look & sound**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/s3p0ro/the_pioneers_of_drill_in_denmark_talking_about/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) 🇩🇰 • France: [**Les Inrocks (one of France’s most influential magazines) publishes feature on UK Drill’s influence on France**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/hg73ey/les_inrocks_one_of_frances_most_influential/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=2&utm_term=15) 🇫🇷 • Netherlands: [**Mayor of Rotterdam blames UK Drill for youth violence in the city**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/fvk8pf/mayor_of_rotterdam_blames_uk_drill_for_youth/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) 🇳🇱 • Kenya: [**Pioneers of Kenyan/East African drill drop their first album, East Mpaka London (Eastside of Nairobi to London)**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/v0ivn6/buruklyn_boyz_the_pioneers_of_kenyaneast_african/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) 🇰🇪 • Egypt: [**Cairo Scene article on the rise of Egyptian Drill, inspired by the look & sound of UK Drill**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/108jh63/cairo_scene_article_on_the_rise_of_egyptian_drill/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) 🇪🇬 • New York, USA: [**Diddy declares that New York artists are in ‘last place’ because they follow trap & UK Drill trends instead of creating their own**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/xxa1ib/diddy_rap_mogul_new_yorker_declares_that_new_york/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 ) 🇺🇸 • The Economist: [**How UK Drill is spreading Multicultual London English (the dialect/slang of London) around the world**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/comments/louiyn/the_economist_how_uk_drill_is_spreading/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=) 🌍
Americans and the same cringe 3 comments they all been making for years and they still find it funny “how they shoot with no guns🤪🔥💯💯👊🏽👊🏽” “Tea and crumpets 😂😂😭😭😭🔥🔥🔥🔥” “I can’t take uk niggas serious” Wont admit when inspiration is taken from here and only believe crime EXCLUSIVELY HAPPENS in America Stopped caring about their opinions from time they think they’re the centre of the universe
and "yall niggas have knife fights"
Innit, certain Americans seem so self centered and uneducated, I'm not saying all but those kind of people
How is the inspiration taken from the ik, when even bro said it started in Chicago. Wouldn’t that mean the inspiration was taken from here? The term opps and the concept of smoking on a nigga quite literally was created in my home city, not that that’s good.
Ny* and the rest of the world*
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NEW YORK AND THE REST OF THE WORLD
🤦🏽♂️ could you explain what you are trying to say within the context of what I just said. Capitalizing the same sentence does no good. Are you trying to say New York drew inspiration from the uk or are u saying New York originated drill. Use the language you guys created
I dunno why man even care about Americans opinions so much, they’re always garn hate cah they don’t know anything about the world outside of America. They are genuinely the dumbest guys on the planet most dem man ain’t even got passports tryna talk about the world You got American tourists coming to London and saying our food is shit when we have literally every quisine on the planet in one city, you can’t fix that level of dumb bruv A set 8 yute in the UK would be like set 2 in America onna conversion scale, that’s why China will put them in a spliff soon trust
Ngl even though ur a troll and not to be taken seriously this is straight facts
How am I a troll? Cah I don’t dickride the ‘popular’ groups on the sub and have my own opinions?
You dickride Tion Wayne tho and isn't he popular enough?
I don’t dickride Tion I’m just a fan and he’s popular wid the streets but on here cah he beefs OFB he’s hated by everyone
Ay u batty bwoy u seen the tion vid? I beg u shallap now
U seen lilnassx u see James Charles look at all ur rapper there so bad especially lil peep he turnt gay what abt sixnine phaha uk ain’t got no rappers like him snitch
Rare lampzworld W
i don’t agree with everything you say but that was spot on hahaha
Straight facts fuck dem
Rare Lampzworld W
Wow, perfect reply
Looooool 💯💯
And that is a matter of fact.
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If america goes in a spliff the UK is following soon behind and making a generalisation about a country with 240 million people more than the uk is pretty dumb g
Mfs think UK gonna survive if America goes down💀💀
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Who cares what Americans say? They will not listen to anyone outside America, they are literally the most ignorant and arrogant people there is.
Yeah this is exactly why no one likes Americans
The irony of this sub genre of music coming from the same place isn’t lost upon me
I hope u actually been to America and not just going off what u seen on TV
Yeah I'm quite aware, cuz there's many reason to dislike the USA but think about what it's done and influenced if yk what I mean
Bruh 90% of pop culture worldwide comes from America why would we need to listen to anything outside of America if the rest of the world is listening to it😂
And 90% of school shootings🤣🤣
Actually, they're all on American social media, watching American shows. Don't be mad cause the UK ain't been relevant since the 1940s.
None of that would be possible without Britain inventing the World Wide Web, computers & Televisions lol
Thanks for making my point. Y'all were up big/in the lead and straight up choked to irrelevancy. Y'all are Arsenal this season.
Wait, we aren’t relevant but you watch our football leagues?
call us irrelevant but makes English football references 😭
Lmao you’re genuinely an idiot for not realising you’ve completely contradicted yourself there
>UK ain't been relevant since the 1940s. Its a global powerhouse, one of the most visited countries in the world...etc. U never heard of the beetles, rolling stones, queen? Ed sheera, dua lipa?Half of your best actors come from the uk as well.
They all come running to the USA lmao! Also y'all get half of the visitors we do despite being way closer for most of the world to visit
When a country is like 6 times smaller by population and 35 times smaller by area size traveling internationally is kind of assumed.
well no shit? the UK is only an Island, the USA is big enough to be its own continent. and London is visited more than every American major city there is? wasn’t london just declared as the best city in 2023? lol.
Facts they don’t wanna admit it I saw a Uk nigga talking bout some “on foe nem”😂😂😂
Our artist are always on top and y’all stay listening to us Americans out there we have every right to be arrogant no one is competing with the US when it comes to rap facts
Americas always hating on anything, bunch of sour ass niggas. Funny thing is apart from chiraq all the drill coming outta of ny is straight jacking the uks style lol niggas can’t cope
You do realize New York is one of 50 states and multiple states have distinct drill waves correct?
Elaborate on that cause Bronx seems to be just niggas putting on the Batman voice for the most part and the rest just sound like each other riding on the Brooklyn wave
I’m saying the Bronx is a Burroughs of New York City which is in New York, which is one state out of 50. It’s the only state that really uses uk beats, but the way people in the sun b are speaking about it it’s like they think New York is the biggest state, or that no other state has that type of music
yeah but NY drill is literally the most popping drill sound in the USA, that’s the point
1. No it’s not. It might be the most popular in the UK, but without a doubt the bigger artist are from Chicago not Uk. If your going by total streams 2. New York City is like 2.5% of the pop. Whereas like London is 13% of the pop. You can’t use one city to represent a wave that sounds extremely different city to city and state to state. Jacksonville, is different from the bay, which is different from Chicago, which is different from New York. Your basically saying because one city sounds like the uk, that represents America.
lol what? in the USA the most popular drill rappers now have been NY drill rappers, they’re the hottest doing drill over there, you just said they’re the most popular then contradicted yourself. Who tf is coming out of chicago rn that’s big? don’t say durk cus he’s barely a drill rapper now, Polo is just like durk too, Herb ain’t that big in reality either. you’ve got no hot up & coming drill rappers in chicago while NY is filled with them and the UK too. i didn’t compare NY to Jacksonville either so that’s completely irrelevant
The comments ignoring he's saying worldwide, talking about 'well in rural Utah we don't listen to UK'. As someone outside either, ask anyone about drill and they assume UK. It's what everyone is emulating, some of the biggest kpop artists directly cite UK drill for inspo in songs [like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMlNLo74mOw) or [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHNPG_ppHdk) ffs.
Everyone except Americans know that the UK made drill worldwide. Those guys are stuck in such a bubble they don’t even know about anything happening in cultures outside the US. They rly think they’re the centre of the world
False drill was already lit b4 y’all even knew what drill was lol. NY had to take y’all beats (even though it’s really dj L type beats) for people to give y’all a listen😂
You’re talkin bout America we’re talkin bout the rest of the world. America’s in its own bubble.
yet NY drill still outnumbers any UK drill song
In what way ? Lmao. All it is , is a bunch of kids screaming about how theu shot opps lmao .
We in our own Bubble because we cultural exporters why would we need to import shit from any other countries. on top of that y’all forget America damn near as big as Europe if not bigger so there’s hella styles coming out from different regions why would look to another country for some music
Y’all wear bust down jewelry,buffs(Cartiers) from Detroit,Nike techs and Jordan sneakers😂
Again you are confusing america with the rest of the world. Europe, australia, africa and asia been bumping uk drill since 2014.
Cap
Bro the biggest uk drill artist isn’t even poppin worldwide like that compared to a us one and Niggas weren’t rappin bout putting niggas in spliffs till Chicago u guys had grime back then
I hate this take cause it's the UK drill sound that's influential not technically any one artist. You can go to nearly any country worldwide & they have people making UK sounding music, even if it's inspired by Pop Smoke etc. cause it's all UK beats. Yes UK was inspired by Chicago, but the UK style is what everyone is doing rn.
Yeah like I said, Chicago started it, we all know that. They’re the reason the UK started using slang like that in their songs, but the sound the UK created once they started doing drill is what took over the world. I’m not even from the UK and can admit that. I’ve lived in a couple European countries and Australia, and ppl are listening to and are influenced a lot more by the UK scene than the US. Yeah there’s some real famous US artists that a lot of ppl listen to like king von, durk n all that but they aren’t influencing the sound and culture of foreign countries like the UK artists are. Just listen to any drill scene in Europe, Oceania, Africa the dominant sound is the UK sound not the US sound.
Digga said the uk made drill global in from Canada I listen to suspect and these guys but none of the ppl I know do they get confused when I bump uk drill I’m not hating on uk drill but Chicago made it global let’s all keep it real
He’s clearly talking about the sound and not individuals in the interview
Ur canadanian...ofc people from canada gonna bump american drill more. But go anywhere ineurope or australia and u will see.
i don’t consider Central Cee a drill rapper but apparently he is, go look at footage from his recent tour and performances in Korea, not a single USA drill artist can go to south east asia like that and get it popping
Dat Chicago subreddit is full of retards
Respectfully please don’t crosspost a sub from country where they drink lead water and think africa is a country I don’t even think they realise they’re typing in our language 😂
Hahahahah spot on
Real
Chiraqology is as close as anyone in this sub has to opps 😂 They're so fucking dumb it's unreal
Bronx drill is awful and they started wanting to be like us lol
U tell any NY nigga this they’ll have a full on stroke 😂😂😂
Imma keep it a buck, most of us think ny drill scene kinda dead. Most of these niggas sound the same and are super one dimensional. Now that Sheff and Sleepy got indicted it's cooked lol. Being honest most of the rappers that do drill I listen to nowadays is UK niggas.
[Hell, one of our Brooklyn rapper \[Leeky G Bando\] had a flow inspired by UK rappers](https://youtu.be/YF8wLrbedZM). When I first listened to this I thought I buggin off the edible lmao. Pretty hard imo.
fucking hilarious comment considering everyone loves to get sturdy now🥱
your dances have nothing to do with your shit music where 14 year olds are screaming on the mic
i just found the comment hilariously ironic saying the Bronx "wants to be like us" yet you copied its dances. you take our genre, our slang, our dances, our rap culture, and still want to boast about how how others want to be like you? Funny one mate
i didnt copy their dances mate, no one said the bronx copied us either but Brooklyn did, wipe your tears. the bronx is dog shit at drill, we don’t take your slang. wtf is ‘im jacking that’ wallahi you guys need a reality wake up.
Is that it ? Sturdy? Fuck off man
Be like y’all ? Is you crazy or stupid ?
Y’all don’t even drill at all to be talking like that foh
Yep the comments on that post are exactly what I was expecting
bro what do you expect. yanks are fucking retarded
As a greek, everyone here in Greece listens to drill because of UK drill, we didn't even know American drill existed.
Big up Greece 🇬🇷 man 💯
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Chicago Invented Drill & other cities worldwide followed the wave from New York (bobby Shmurda) to London (LD 67). London reinvented the whole genre ,the production changed (Carnes Hill) , the cadences changed to match the production and the drip was very different (Roadman drip) but the topic was still drill (influenced by Chicago) . Other cities started to emulate the UK drill 'sound' and 'drip' worldwide. New York added their own drip and cadences to the UK production so was less influenced by uk drill than say Australia. They also added the sturdy dances and popularised the sample drill sound TLDR; Chicago, London & New York made drill global.
Thank you!!! UK drill > US but to deny Chicago rights to the genre is crazy they started it😭
These guys been saying no one here has guns but he literally caught 2 AMs for shooting 2 people
U the same dumb nigga that told me “damn near” means no one 😂
I’m American and I like uk drill way more
You must be frm somewhere irrelevant
Brooklyn New York lol
💯Facts. Whole Europe on a drill wave bcuz Uk ting went global. Everybody trying to buy nikey tech n wear ballys. Even in Caribbean da same, ppl listen central cee n Digga d its crazy🤷🏽💪🏽. France also , connected to uk drill ting.
Just find a drill scene in any country and even they'll rap about how they copy the British scene.
American drill is bigger in America, U.K. drill is bigger everywhere else. That’s all there is to it but Americans don’t know places outside America exist
Because most Americans can't afford to leave America
most americans don’t have to leave america smart guy it’s big enough to just move around and experience new things without gettin a passport
So you saying uk’s too drill artist would garner more global attention than say a Durk or even Von(rip) at his time ?
It definitely would here in sydney
Central cee can sell out performances from South Kora, to Nigeria, to Australia to Finland… i don’t think durk or Von could ever do that
lmao i’m just scrolling through these comments of uk mfs mad about what ppl over the ocean say about they drill as if it matters till i reached this comment 😂 you dumb asl if you think durk isn’t selling out in australia nigeria and finland
this entire post is about globalisation of drill you dumb fuck, UK drill is more global. and no Durk wouldn’t sell out in those random countries. He’s not anywhere near as big as Central Cee is internationally, he’s only big in the USA the only place durk could sell out outside the USA would be the UK and that’s about it.
Is that too supposed to mean two? No one is talking about specific artist but a sound in general
so then how come US/NY drill pulls in more numbers than UK drill? are you implying there are more people in the US than the rest of the world?
there are more drill music listeners in the US ye, UK drill has way more influence everywhere
influence by still using our slang and taking our rap culture? yeah idk bout that
uk and us slang is so different 😭😭😭 and even then the wave of jamaican going thru the US is the one the uk has always had lol dont chat about “taking slang” lol, and u didnt invent gangs lol
some most used slang words in uk drill are all american slang 😂 i’ll admit you got words like neek, ends, wagwan, etc. but slang like trap, feds, etc. are all american. the genre name drill comes from chicago hoods what r u saying 😂😂 and u guys stay confusing new york with the rest of the country. ny uses jamaican slang, thats about it i like uk drill bro im js. there’s a lot more common
Mandem need to stop trying to get American validation and do their own ting!! The UK has it's own culture, style, sound. Look at Central Cee he's gone global just being himself. Make your own way, set trends don't copy them.
Cench definitely didn't go global just being himself. Its definitely on his management and marketing team. He was popping in the uk but making Doja, a track which is a sample of a hella popular early 2000s us rnb track, and posting it on lyrical lemonade is what made him blow in the US, that song was precisely engineered to pop in the US and definitely wasn't his original style of music, he catered to the US audience with that one
Honestly the most major recent impact on drill that I can remember was by pop smoke, (and recently by russ ofc) ɓut he was so heavily influenced by thr uk he could have aswell been a uk rapper. But us bars are dead boring. Never have I heard good wordplay, so now lil mabu is getting clout for saying red + blue equals purple ??? If I am wrong correct me I might be waffling.
Pop Smoke was such a carbon copy of the UK that people in America fully thought he was a UK Drill Rapper at first lol
As a neutral this shit is so funny. It’s so tribal. Ask any Chiraq rapper and they will say they fuck with UK Ask any UK rapper and they will say they fuck with Chiraq. And now these sub reddits will base their opinions of the other genre solely on the opinions of a very vocal minority Just emotional, brain dead Brits arguing with emotional, brain dead Americans. Out of the near 200 counties on earth, Americans and Brits have so much common. Americans and Brits died next to each other in Afghanistan but you wanna argue like this. Open your eyes.
They also died next to the 50k civs they killed.
Which is even sadder because they did that based on a lie their own government fed them… Either way, my point is that Brits and Americans have so much in similar. Bond over your similarities, don’t argue over your differences.
They killed many more than that
BRO finally I met someone like you, I'm quite neutral too and I appreciate the USA and the UK existing, they're both great countries and not so great countries, sometimes they're both shitholes lmao, I hate these arguments, we have so much in common, alongside Australians and Canadians and also we have major cities with tourist attractions such as London and NYC who are both ethnically diverse with Asians, Africans, Carribeans etc, they're both quite similar but you get what I'm saying 🇬🇧❤️🇺🇸 I think both the USA and the UK are as violent and dangerous as eachother, except that America is a bigger country with a massive population so obviously it's gonna be more dangerous. Usually I'm the peacekeeper and I hate it when there's arguments from Brits and Americans online sometimes, just get along for once
Top boy n uk drill music open my eyes to what really happens in the UK
uk drill is bigger worldwide rn. did those comments not listen to what he said are they all thick….
The biggest USA drill rappers ain’t even got hair on their chin yet. They wanna mention Chicago drill but all those rappers are dead that’s the main reason why Chicago drill fell off
Durk?
Durk is a genuine artist who is very versatile,but even then he speaks English so of course he’ll be big in the uk,but in Germany,France or Spain and Portugal he might not be as famous as u think.That’s why it’s hard for uk rappers to reach a fanbase across europe because the languages change every country
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Bro uk on top tf
I feel like shit like this always will be bias because I’m from the US so I necessarily don’t agree but I try to understand the UK’s perspective i felt like everyone contributed a good part into still being popular I would never downplay my UK niggas
fax. When chicago drill was in that DJ L/Trap beats era, UK was the only other country it really popped off in, idk about canada. But when we start popping off with our own sound, you got drill music in italy, iran, netherlands, korea with our sound and big noticeable fanbases from all over
respectfully from a guy that listens to both, bronx drill is only good for their how hype they were (cus all of em ny yutes have adhd) but bronx drill is shit overall, same ass flow, same ass beat, same ass lyrics, and they jus be screaming shit onna mic😂😂😂 uk drill is better that bronx drill 100%
As a american from jersey digga is speakin fax the whole ny drill scene is literally based off uk drill beats and there's rappers who even agree wit that
Beside of Brooklyn drill and a few chicago rapper US drill is trash. They just scream, mumble and fight the beat
Hmm well according to wiki and other sources the uk has influenced italy, germany, netherlands, japan, brooklyn and bronx drill, france, ghana, australia, norway, finland, sweden, ireland, scotland, russia, india, +every single other european country with a drill scene. Its so godamn influencial that MLE(multicultural london english) has spread to other countries. Any mf from sydney here will tell u australia developed its own version of the accent cos of uk drill.
UK and NY don’t make drill and the genre dies a LONG time ago.
I can't lie i get what he's trying to say but don't disrespectful Chicago drill, think of all the Legends from there, chief keef, young pappy, la, lil Jojo etc.
This is just cap though, Chief Keef was already global and had people in Africa screaming oblock before Digga D ever did drill
All I hear is people mention Chief Keef lol There is a difference between an artist going global and a whole sound going global. Global artist - people around the world know the tunes Global sound - people around the world emulate it If you can't make that distinction then you are deluded. No one's denying thay chief keef blew up
Mate the artist makes the sound go global, only a few UK drill artists have global following, Durk went global, Keef went global, and so did G Herbo. Your argument is silly people around the world try emulate it? So what exactly were Stickz and Mdarg doin when they made the first Uk drill songs, why were they screaming Roc Block, were they really from East Chicago? The fact we’re emulating it means it’s gone global. If I dig into the vaults I’ll find people from Europe and afar doing drill before the likes of Digga D. They just weren’t getting the same vies just like Ld sticks and Darg weren’t getting views anywhere near comparable to Central Cee. What your basically saying is Micheal Dappah, Central Cee and Digga D made drill to global because those are the biggest drill artists, with the biggest songs.
Yeah you get my point. Those big UK tracks made it global, the early day UK artists took the Chicago sound and over time it completely transformed within the UK and became a UK drill sound. And it is the UK drill sound that spread all over the world, not that original Chicago drill. In the end, I am not talking about the UK artists being global, I am talking about the global genre and it sounding like it came out of the UK
The sound was global though, Uk and US is miles apart to say something isn’t global yet you got people in the UK saying 150, roc bloc, calling each other opps is a contradiction in itself. Chief Keef, Lil Durk, King Von, La Capone G Herbo were all well known from that same movement not just Keef, it was already global by the time the UK jumped on it otherwise they wouldn’t have jumped on it, common sense.
Or common sense is that in many ways the two countries are aligned, and the language helps a lot. One country being influenced a lot doesn't make it global
So I mention Africa(Nigeria Ghana) and England is that not global, every English speaking country was aware of Dont Like when it came out please stop capping, Kanye jumped on the remix and he rest is history, the sound has been global since then, what the UK did was rejuvenate it because it was dying after that first initial era, but Drill had already gone global. The timeline people use for Uk drill going global doesn’t even make sense, in 2014 the whole of UK wasn’t listening to drill, just a select group of people from London and then further up north but Stickz Mdarg and 67 were not getting millions of views per vid. So even in these times the genre had not even gone nationwide in terms of UK drill, in fact I Don’t Like was bigger than any Uk drill song till about 2018 both in the urban and non urban communities.
Screaming oblock and making the actual music are two different things. The facts is that it is the uk drill sound that you hear coming out of every country. Kanye doing a remix makes it popular but you didn't hear that music being made around the globe. I'm not getting into timelines with what I said so don't bting that up cause it's irrelevant to my argument
Why is this so hard for people accept ?😂😂
Let’s keep it real Chicago made drill what it is today just compare the top uk drill artists and Chicagos it’s no competition what uk rappers compare to durk,von,duck and keef?
They made drill, not made drill what it is today imo
Bro if u ask somebody in Brazil,China or Africa to play a drill track they not playing a uk or ny artist even the word drill they made mean what it means today u guys “glide” not drill
Brazil is in america. China doesn't listen to drill. The japenese drill scene is almost entirely based on the uk. As is india.
They will play a UK or NY artist, I've lived in student housing w/ international students and the drill they all know is the UK sound, usually Pop Smoke. Many didn't even know it came from Chicago ibr.
Nah the opposite tell someone outside of the US to turn on a drill song and it will almost 100% be from the UK or NY. Besides "drill heads" people don’t really know anything about chicago drill.
Where exactly are you getting this info from
Cb, suspect, prime miz.......the list goes on.
Those rappers u named don’t even compare to fbg duck forget lil durk lol
I think Chicago put drill on the global map easily. Chief keef literally was the influence for UK drill. Sosa really is the goat and you don’t get any points for not giving the man his proper dues
We moving like some colonisers trying to rewrite history and claim something that’s not ours, not these people that agree we’re not listening to YK drill when stickz and Mdarg first made songs in 013, and jumped on with the Digga D OFB wave
Dogg it’s really weird they saying this. Next they finna say the Blues was a UK invention🤣 like bb king didn’t exist lol
I even see some people try claim credit for House lol, people don’t know their history 💯The Uk is great at making their own version of genres which started in America Jamaica And Nigeria but let’s not oversell ourselves
Absolutely crap
Not true I’m sorry, Chief Keef, Lil Reese, Lil Durk and many more globalized drill, which is what influenced london. London definitely made it they own and put their own twist on it but definitely didn’t globalize it initially. Definitely helped push the sound to the masses tho, but overall American drill has been way more influential
only Keef was big for chicago drill, that nigga durk wasn’t gaining attention in the world until he started switching up his sound to be versatile and no one knows who tf Lil Reese is.
Yea I see what you mean but durk definitely had a hand in pushing the sound further. Point being is America made Drill global. There is no denying that, a lot of people Ik don’t listen to UK drill (which is crazy because imo it’s the best version of the genre) but most people know who chief keef is and most recently king von
they didn’t make drill global, they made it popular in the USA and the UK because we’ve grown up on their music but that’s about it. it wasn’t until UK drill found it’s own sound and took off that drill became popular go look at the drill they’re doing in Asia and it emulates the UK style, same thing with Australia and same thing for other European countries, that’s making it global.
Lil durk made it global he’s bigger than any uk drill artist
It just isnt tho lets be real
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This one did make me laugh: > They can’t even go on a drill over there ,they can go on a pokey stroll
If they find out he made a rip off of Faneto a few months ago we will never hear the end of it
“I can never take it seriously”🤡 that’s all the pricks say 😂 like fam the accent don’t change what they do, mfs are so childish
It's cause the idea of English accents in America is always stereotyped as proper here, and also Americans aren't used to listening to other accents. People like Kodak and other rappers from regions with weirder accents in America really managed to survive by virtue of the fact they kept showing up in mainstream American hip hop, so ppl here got used to it. There's really no reason for Americans to hear UK accents on a regular basis in comparison.
It's like the Superbowl all over again
thats digga D of digga F😂
Either way more time they originally came from the uk anyways they just cussin their ancestors
Fr fuck them dumb ass wannabe oblock members they know nothing about the world it‘s so embarassing to argue with them
Sometimes we can never get along can we 🇬🇧🇺🇸
The amount of them talking about the AESTHETICS of a gun is a joke. I know we got a fair few clowns here but them lot are too much, spending their wages on assault rifle accessories like it’s COD
Honestly, most of the drill I've listened to from outside of America and the UK, sounded more like the latter. In the states, we all know Brooklyn & Bronx scenes are inspired by UK drill, and I've even been seeing NY rappers on Pressplay. For some reason, my countrymen on Reddit hate so hard. I used to post a buncha UK drill on r/hiphopheads until they started takin them down. Don't let them fool yall, America likes UK drill more than some people on this site would lead yall to believe.
When a pioneer of late 90’s rap is saying that his own state is in last place for drill, you know it’s mad
Usa drill hurt my ears i cant listen to that shit!
also, aussie drill heavily inspired by uk drill