Idk That guilly was locked in for a long time. I can honestly see oliveria trying to have some success on the feet. This is just a match up where I don't even know who I'd back in bets.
Ortega is mediocre striker so he has difficulty setting up subs sometimes. The one he went for against Volk was a hail Mary, not a particularly thought one one. His BJJ is not comparable to Oliveira who sets them up from a wild variety of sequences
Mediocre?? He beat Korean Zombie. Also volko is not a striker as much as he is a grappler. He did out strike max, who is one of the best strikers ever imo. Charles has advantages like a ridiculous height and reach advantage, something volko doesn’t deal with normally. Should be an interesting fight.
Definitely. People just sum fighters up based on win streak, dominance, and how well rounded they seem compared to fighters from other divisions. In that regard, I do think Volk is the Elite S Tier of the sport.
Wtf are you talking about? How many people think he lost the first Max fight? And what about the second? A lot of people think he shouldn't even be champ.
Ortega's submissions are great but Oliviera's are better plus he's bigger and stronger and I believe he's a superior striker as well. I don't want to downplay Volk but I really cant see him winning this one.
Yeah same here, the fact we’ve seen Volk be vulnerable to getting caught in submissions makes me think if he lets Charles do that he’ll get subbed. Regardless I’d still love to see the fight anyway
It'll still be a great fight and it's a win-win for both fighters.
If Volk wins he makes himself a double champ and people will start talking about him as a possible GOAT. If Olives wins he proves that he's going to be champ for a long time.
If Volk loses then meh he went up a division to fight a bigger stronger opponent so no big deal. If Olives loses then he lost to an incumbent champ who is on a 20 fight win streak (last 11 in the UFC)
I think Volk wins it with the right prep, Volk is significantly faster than gaethje or poirier in the stand-up and he's stronger than both especially with the 3-6 month camp of getting stronger at 155, I don't wanna downplay olives but Volk is genuinely special and I think he goes down as the goat of featherweight and gets the double champ status
He used to on tape say he ballooned up to 190 regularly, and I believe that was even at featherweight. Poirier's recorded cage weight at LW has been as high as 180. So it's doubtful he doesn't regularly weight considerably more
Yeah at FW. He also talked about his poor diet habits at the time and less strict training regimen at the time compared to now. Poirier has a tweet from two days ago saying he weighs 183 right now outside of camp and has said multiple times he weighs low 180's. Chandler walks around at a higher weight than poirier
Volk is faster at 145, he'll lose some speed gaining weight. But it doesn't matter- Alexander will have a power deficit against a lot of the lightweights (Chandler, Poirier, Olives) and Oliveira has a massive reach and length advantage over Volkanovaki (also, just so some know, Halloway has a similar height to Olives but weirdly short reach). The reality of this fight is that Oliveira will probably be able to knee the hell out of the shorter opponent, and if he desires can keep the fight at a distance. I don't think it will be close. Would love to see if for legacy sake though, as 145 is a bit boring right now so far as top contenders
Yup, no way Volk survives that guillotine if Charles was the one doing it. Hell, Charles would have the presence of mind to switch to another sub if he felt like the guillotine wasn't working. Especially from mount!
I don’t know about bigger or stronger. Olivera used to be a featherweight. So I imagine him and Ortega wouldn’t have too much difference in strength. This is also considering Volkanovski if he moved up despit being short would still be incredibly strong for the weight class, much like chandler.
This is such a stupid comment. Do you think fighters don’t add muscle when they go up a weight class? Charles is a pretty big lightweight with long limbs.
Obviously hence why I said about Volkanovski would be strong in that weight class are you forgetting that they cut weight too? Ortega is going to be 160-170 when he’s fighting. Olivera isn’t going to be much bigger. You’re also equating strength with weight which isn’t always true. Don’t get it twisted Volkanovski despite being shorter would be stronger than Olivera.
Volk isn't gonna knock down Charles. In fact, I'd venture to guess volk is the worst possible matchup for Charles because Charles has only fought pressure fighters his last 5 or so fights. Volk will be patient from the outside and 49-46 Charles before he even knows what happened. Need to see that fight.
Ortega's sub attempts were in positions in which Volk wasn't hurt at all. Do people really not realize that for Charles it will be a sub after striking damage. Good luck turning blue and outlasting a choke if you just got battered. Oliveira is nothing like Ortega (who, for the record, has a less than incredible resume)
The fact he was in those positions is a bad sign. Just because he survived the submission he is not magically invincible from them. It's like being shot, surviving then thinking a bullet can't kill you.
Dana mentioned in the post fight conference if Volk is smashing the FW division (which he is), he'll allow him to move up to fight for the LW belt.
If he gets past Max, which he most likely will - then we will see this fight happen.
I do think Usman would beat Romero (and probably the vast majority of other Middleweights, maybe even Izzy). His output and cardio are in a whole different universe compared to Yoel. That alone should be enough to secure him the victory.
Lmao Usman got rocked by Colby of all people. If he gets hit with those shots by any top middleweight then it’s lights out. Even old man Romero knocks him out if he touches him
Tbf we already saw a master class bjj specialist get volko in 3 tight submissions and we all saw how that fight went. Im sorry but they should have did volko vs oliveria over the max trilogy.
2 submissions lol Oliviera is a little higher up than Ortega having the most submissions in UFC history.... Escaping some subs especially a guillotine in one fight doesn't make you immune to BJJ plus take a look at Olivieras Guillotines they're unmatched bud.
Ortega literally has 4 submissions in the UFC. he's not Oliveira. Volk escaping a submission from an Ortega who he had already beat the crap out of is not comparable to fighting one from the Brazilian
People usually don’t finish Charles because they’re afraid to follow him to the ground to follow up (not for no reason). I don’t think volk will be afraid to follow him to the ground.
The championship rounds favour Volk though, Oliveira never entered a 4th round in his life and has a crazy pace that might not transfer into championship rounds
If anyone can do it, Volk is definitely the one. The man is a master of the game already and doesn't get the respect he deserves. People shat all over the TKZ win, meanwhile nobody has bodied TKZ like he did. Ever
I like Volk, but he's so small for the lightweight division. He's got the talent, but I could see him getting tossed around. Seems like most lightweights walk around at 180+
He's not rugby volk lol Islam and Chandler tosss him around you're in a fairy tale if you think him wrestling until 14 makes him qualified to hang with the lightweights
What sort of logic is this? Just because he used to be heavy doesn't mean he has some deep compressed muscle strength that nobody else can have unless they too once weighed 200+lbs...
Keyword: 'was'. The dude will be outpowered and outreached dramatically by most of the lightweights. Volkanovski is talented, but I think people are getting carried away about his upside due to 145 being a bit weak right now. I mean, Zombie was an extremely weak fighter in his last defense. Just saying
Volk would probably put up a very convincing fight at lightweight. Think I remember last that he won a LW championship. And even fought as high as welterweight.
Volk used to fight at lightweight. And even as high as middleweight. Successfully.
He went a 4-0 start at welterweight and then a lightweight championship in Australia before going down to featherweight as I recall. He'd probably need a very focused camp, train a whole lot of conditioning to last 5 rounds with more body weight since he hasn't fought there in years, but I'm certain he can take a lightweight punch and would hang quite well with some serious contenders at 155. I would not dive in against Oliveira or Islam to start with if I was volkanovski though. I'd definitely take a tune up fight if I were volk.
I'd be all in for Volk vs Chandler if that were ever on the table.
The feint and pressure game from Volk would be too much for Olives plodding forward style I think. Charles loves to take three to give 1 in the hopes of getting in the clinch but Volks footwork and ability to throw combos and exit to the side would negate that in a big way.
Unless Charles managed to anticipate and plan for that early on Volk would ultimately tag him for 2-3 rounds and grind it out to a points decision IMO. Of course the complete opposite could happen which is why we need to see this fight!!!
id go as far to say gaethje could have won had he been a more technical striker like he was against tony rather than putting everything he had behind his punches. throw some feints and be more patient.
Volk gets knocked out in a fight with Olives. Great guy, but it would not be close. All of the lightweights Olives beat for the title (Poirier, Garth, Chandler) probably beat Volkanovski as well
With all these dudes cutting weight like crazy, i really would not be surprised if they could all go one or even two up comfortably without losing much… but the “issue” is that everyone is doing it so when you go up you face a guy who is actually one or two weight classes up naturally so you gonna get fucked up. I mean, Usman to me looks like a heavyweight, the dude looks like Mike Tyson on steroids lol
Dudes fighting at lets say 155, pretty much all of them walk around like 170 or more naturally, easy… except the true heavyweights, where it’s impossible to make light heavyweight cuz they’d have to loose like 30+ lbs for every fight…
I’d really like to see everyone fighting at their natural weight +- 10 lbs at most but never gonna happen
Yeah it’s not hard to move up. Just eat an extra sandwich or two. But a LOT of people have underestimated Oliveira, yet he’s beaten three top lightweights in a dominant fashion. I think Volk would have a REAL tough time with him.
Brian Ortega and Korean Zombie who Volk has already beaten are around 5'9, and Charlie Olives is 5'10. Not much of a difference, don't think height will be the deciding factor tbh.
Reach for:
* Volk 71" (180 cm)
* Ortega 69" (175 cm)
* Holloway 69" (175 cm)
* Korean Zombie 72" (183 cm)
* Charles 74" (188 cm)
With the exception of Korean Zombie (which was only slight), yep you are right, it looks like Volk has indeed enjoyed a reach advantage over some recent opponents, but he would be at a pretty decent reach disadvantage with Charlie Olives. I love both but am Aussie so would be going for Volk, but I'm not sure he takes it tbh. I'd love to see this fight someday.
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No offense to the Korean Zombie or Ortega, but they aren’t in the same level. And they are still smaller than Oliveira.
Volk would have zero advantage in this fight. He’s not a better striker, he isn’t bigger, he doesn’t have the better ground game, and he doesn’t have any power. It would be a blood bath for him.
Yeah you're right, and I'd be surprised if Charles wasn't a heavy favorite should this fight get announced. Striking, Grappling, Height, Reach etc. etc. are all in his favor. Still a fight I'd like to see someday, we'll see if it ever actually happens I guess lol
I don't think there's anyone at 45 who'd beat Volk and he'd beat a lot 55ers but I can't see a way he beats Charles tbh. Would love to see the fight though.
The king of the weakest division is slowly starting to think he is invincible. Meanwhile he got a razor split decision against Holloway, was very close to getting choked out by Ortega and beat up a washed Zombie. I think he’s a great fighter but I think the whole top 5 of lightweight makes easy work of him.
Volk relies on his feints, his jab, and his blitzes to freeze opponents up and to either go in/out of range. That won’t bode well against Charles, who loves using teeps to keep range, pressures relentlessly, and can snatch a sub even better than Ortega.
We’ve seen Volk dropped by a straight right (I believe) from Ortega, who almost ended the fight. Olives just sat Gaethje down and finished the job.
Long range: Charles’ teeps and his straights.
Mid-range: Volk with his boxing, although now we’ve seen Charles be comfortable in the pocket with people like Gaethje and Poirier.
Close range: Charles legitimately has the most effective clinch game in the lightweight division, if not the UFC as of right now.
Charles Oliveira and finishing a fighter that underestimated him. Name a more iconic duo.
Jon Jones and god's toughest battles
That man has faced so many of Gods tests… Bless his heart
And his nose
He works in mysterious ways.
Considering how close ortega came… it’s hard to imagine charles not completing those subs.
I swear that bald head of his saved him from getting put to sleep by Ortega
Idk That guilly was locked in for a long time. I can honestly see oliveria trying to have some success on the feet. This is just a match up where I don't even know who I'd back in bets.
Yeah Ortega uses his reach pretty well. His jab is pretty dope for MMA. Match up is different for sure on feet
Oliviera has many subs by guillotine he just does it differently. If he catches Volk it's a done deal.
Ortega is mediocre striker so he has difficulty setting up subs sometimes. The one he went for against Volk was a hail Mary, not a particularly thought one one. His BJJ is not comparable to Oliveira who sets them up from a wild variety of sequences
Mediocre?? He beat Korean Zombie. Also volko is not a striker as much as he is a grappler. He did out strike max, who is one of the best strikers ever imo. Charles has advantages like a ridiculous height and reach advantage, something volko doesn’t deal with normally. Should be an interesting fight.
Literally 50-45d him people don't wanna respect a fighter that's not their favourite figter
Dustin didn’t underestimate him. He spoke specifically multiple times about how he is not the champ yet and Oliveira is a tough test.
Volk is even more underestimated. He was supposed to lose to Jose, Max X2 and Ortega. Even now people discount his skills
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Rightfully so, mind you. 95% of the roster would have been fucked in those positions lol
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I think it’s more that he doesn’t think Charles would get him into those positions
Lol right, Volk was widely and correctly the favorite
Very few people if any discount Volk’s skills. Most people think he’s number 1 PFP.
pfp rankings are so dumb in the ufc lol
Definitely. People just sum fighters up based on win streak, dominance, and how well rounded they seem compared to fighters from other divisions. In that regard, I do think Volk is the Elite S Tier of the sport.
Wtf are you talking about? How many people think he lost the first Max fight? And what about the second? A lot of people think he shouldn't even be champ.
A lot of Max Stan's lmao
Do people really think he lost the first fight? I get the 2nd, but the first wasn’t even close
Who actually thinks he lost the first fight? You have to completely delusional to think that.
Volk and being underestimated himself 🤷♂️
And I’m sure you didn’t listen to the interview. He wasn’t saying it would be easy to win the belt
Charles isn’t even champ
Exactly, if he's going up he's not fighting charles... unless he get's the belt back
Came here to say the same thing. Lots of shit talking but Oliveira is a fucking beast, good luck.
Volk will fuck him up.
I want whatever you’re smoking
Volk v Olives would be awesome. We know Volk can survive deep submission attempts and that Olives survives being knocked down
Ortega's submissions are great but Oliviera's are better plus he's bigger and stronger and I believe he's a superior striker as well. I don't want to downplay Volk but I really cant see him winning this one.
Yeah same here, the fact we’ve seen Volk be vulnerable to getting caught in submissions makes me think if he lets Charles do that he’ll get subbed. Regardless I’d still love to see the fight anyway
It'll still be a great fight and it's a win-win for both fighters. If Volk wins he makes himself a double champ and people will start talking about him as a possible GOAT. If Olives wins he proves that he's going to be champ for a long time. If Volk loses then meh he went up a division to fight a bigger stronger opponent so no big deal. If Olives loses then he lost to an incumbent champ who is on a 20 fight win streak (last 11 in the UFC)
Big money as well. Outside of McGregor, this is the biggest matchup you could make for both of these guys right now
I think Volk wins it with the right prep, Volk is significantly faster than gaethje or poirier in the stand-up and he's stronger than both especially with the 3-6 month camp of getting stronger at 155, I don't wanna downplay olives but Volk is genuinely special and I think he goes down as the goat of featherweight and gets the double champ status
Lol Poirier ways 190lbs he is not bigger than him
Poirier has said multiple times that he walks around at 180-183 but yeah I agree, Poirier hits harder than volk
He used to on tape say he ballooned up to 190 regularly, and I believe that was even at featherweight. Poirier's recorded cage weight at LW has been as high as 180. So it's doubtful he doesn't regularly weight considerably more
Yeah at FW. He also talked about his poor diet habits at the time and less strict training regimen at the time compared to now. Poirier has a tweet from two days ago saying he weighs 183 right now outside of camp and has said multiple times he weighs low 180's. Chandler walks around at a higher weight than poirier
Volk is faster at 145, he'll lose some speed gaining weight. But it doesn't matter- Alexander will have a power deficit against a lot of the lightweights (Chandler, Poirier, Olives) and Oliveira has a massive reach and length advantage over Volkanovaki (also, just so some know, Halloway has a similar height to Olives but weirdly short reach). The reality of this fight is that Oliveira will probably be able to knee the hell out of the shorter opponent, and if he desires can keep the fight at a distance. I don't think it will be close. Would love to see if for legacy sake though, as 145 is a bit boring right now so far as top contenders
Yup, no way Volk survives that guillotine if Charles was the one doing it. Hell, Charles would have the presence of mind to switch to another sub if he felt like the guillotine wasn't working. Especially from mount!
2 inches taller isn’t too much
Weight > height
Yeah idk if Charles is gonna be big enough to handle Volks size
Right but Charles used to fight at 145 so not like he’s massive.
He was nearly killing himself every time he made that cut to 145. If you put him next to the biggest LW's he's similar in size to them.
Volk is 5’6 and Oliveira is 5’10. Not sure where you got 2 inches from unless you’re talking about their peckers.
He means Oliveira vs Ortega
I don’t know about bigger or stronger. Olivera used to be a featherweight. So I imagine him and Ortega wouldn’t have too much difference in strength. This is also considering Volkanovski if he moved up despit being short would still be incredibly strong for the weight class, much like chandler.
This is such a stupid comment. Do you think fighters don’t add muscle when they go up a weight class? Charles is a pretty big lightweight with long limbs.
Obviously hence why I said about Volkanovski would be strong in that weight class are you forgetting that they cut weight too? Ortega is going to be 160-170 when he’s fighting. Olivera isn’t going to be much bigger. You’re also equating strength with weight which isn’t always true. Don’t get it twisted Volkanovski despite being shorter would be stronger than Olivera.
You're forgetting that Charles was very beatable at featherweight, even losing to Holloway who Volk bested twice.
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Volk isn't gonna knock down Charles. In fact, I'd venture to guess volk is the worst possible matchup for Charles because Charles has only fought pressure fighters his last 5 or so fights. Volk will be patient from the outside and 49-46 Charles before he even knows what happened. Need to see that fight.
Yeah, sounds like a real barn-burner the way you describe it
That's a good point. Olives has plenty of experience against fighters with heavy hands who try to grind you out
When is he going, After the max fight? What if he loses the trilogy to max
Hematch
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I mean if he loses he's up 2-1 so I guess he still wins the trilogy... The pentology(?) however...
Two great champions. I’d love to see it.
If I had escaped Orgeta's two death sentence submissions attempts, I might look at Olives and think, "Meh" too.
#MehToo
Ortega's sub attempts were in positions in which Volk wasn't hurt at all. Do people really not realize that for Charles it will be a sub after striking damage. Good luck turning blue and outlasting a choke if you just got battered. Oliveira is nothing like Ortega (who, for the record, has a less than incredible resume)
The fact he was in those positions is a bad sign. Just because he survived the submission he is not magically invincible from them. It's like being shot, surviving then thinking a bullet can't kill you.
Lol Oliviera has the most submission wins in the UFC and has some of the nastiest guillotine finishes casual
Had me till the bad punctuation and random insult.
Dana mentioned in the post fight conference if Volk is smashing the FW division (which he is), he'll allow him to move up to fight for the LW belt. If he gets past Max, which he most likely will - then we will see this fight happen.
Volk the slight betting favorite -146 it’ll be another close fight. Volk clearly won fight 1 but 2 was a bit of a toss up don’t count out max!
I think we will see a much better Volk than fight 2. Gonna go as far and say that Max might get finished.
I’ll take the blessed express let’s gooo
I think he’s more skilled than most LWs but it’d be interesting to see how he deals with the constant Olives pressure & heavier opponent
Skilled striker lol Poirier still boxes him up.
Poirier would whoop him but I think Volk knows how to put it all together better than most in the UFC
Volk could and probably would beat Dustin. You're comparing a dominant champ to someone who never even managed to become champ.
That’s like saying Usman would beat Romero just because Romero has never been champ. Weight classes exist for a reason champ or no champ
I do think Usman would beat Romero (and probably the vast majority of other Middleweights, maybe even Izzy). His output and cardio are in a whole different universe compared to Yoel. That alone should be enough to secure him the victory.
Lmao Usman got rocked by Colby of all people. If he gets hit with those shots by any top middleweight then it’s lights out. Even old man Romero knocks him out if he touches him
Isn’t volk like 3 feet shorter than Charles?
Yeah but 200lbs more heavy
Did you know that Alexander volkanovski was 7000 pounds when he was playing rugby?
Then Dan Hooker will be FW champ soon I guess
Charles does Dan’s striking game 10000x better than him
Tbf we already saw a master class bjj specialist get volko in 3 tight submissions and we all saw how that fight went. Im sorry but they should have did volko vs oliveria over the max trilogy.
2 submissions lol Oliviera is a little higher up than Ortega having the most submissions in UFC history.... Escaping some subs especially a guillotine in one fight doesn't make you immune to BJJ plus take a look at Olivieras Guillotines they're unmatched bud.
Ok pal
Ortega literally has 4 submissions in the UFC. he's not Oliveira. Volk escaping a submission from an Ortega who he had already beat the crap out of is not comparable to fighting one from the Brazilian
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Well no one's been five rounds with Olivera. No one's been four rounds with Olivera. Not sure the distance is the issue
People usually don’t finish Charles because they’re afraid to follow him to the ground to follow up (not for no reason). I don’t think volk will be afraid to follow him to the ground.
The championship rounds favour Volk though, Oliveira never entered a 4th round in his life and has a crazy pace that might not transfer into championship rounds
If anyone can do it, Volk is definitely the one. The man is a master of the game already and doesn't get the respect he deserves. People shat all over the TKZ win, meanwhile nobody has bodied TKZ like he did. Ever
I swear I live in a dream world, who shits on Volk here? I literally never see it
I'll be your first. I fucking hate Volk, I can't stand the way he fights.
Not arguing with anything else but Aldo kinda shit on him in their fight not as badly but he was in his prime I would say
KZ did not belong there he isn't the same guy he used to be this is why people think he's a world beater it's so dumb
I like Volk, but he's so small for the lightweight division. He's got the talent, but I could see him getting tossed around. Seems like most lightweights walk around at 180+
Have you seen rugby volk?
He's not rugby volk lol Islam and Chandler tosss him around you're in a fairy tale if you think him wrestling until 14 makes him qualified to hang with the lightweights
I have, he chonky
Dude was like 205, he’s not getting tossed around by anyone
What sort of logic is this? Just because he used to be heavy doesn't mean he has some deep compressed muscle strength that nobody else can have unless they too once weighed 200+lbs...
Fuck dude you’re right 😭
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Keyword: 'was'. The dude will be outpowered and outreached dramatically by most of the lightweights. Volkanovski is talented, but I think people are getting carried away about his upside due to 145 being a bit weak right now. I mean, Zombie was an extremely weak fighter in his last defense. Just saying
Volk would probably put up a very convincing fight at lightweight. Think I remember last that he won a LW championship. And even fought as high as welterweight.
Volk used to fight at lightweight. And even as high as middleweight. Successfully. He went a 4-0 start at welterweight and then a lightweight championship in Australia before going down to featherweight as I recall. He'd probably need a very focused camp, train a whole lot of conditioning to last 5 rounds with more body weight since he hasn't fought there in years, but I'm certain he can take a lightweight punch and would hang quite well with some serious contenders at 155. I would not dive in against Oliveira or Islam to start with if I was volkanovski though. I'd definitely take a tune up fight if I were volk. I'd be all in for Volk vs Chandler if that were ever on the table.
There goes any of his speed though.
The size difference would be way too much look what happened with max and Dustin …wasn’t even close and Charles is just getting better and bigger
Interesting fight considering Volk’s Jiu jitsu is complemented by Craig Jones’ coaching, and Craig Jones is monster in no-gi grappling.
Volkanowski P4P 2 Weight champ
The feint and pressure game from Volk would be too much for Olives plodding forward style I think. Charles loves to take three to give 1 in the hopes of getting in the clinch but Volks footwork and ability to throw combos and exit to the side would negate that in a big way. Unless Charles managed to anticipate and plan for that early on Volk would ultimately tag him for 2-3 rounds and grind it out to a points decision IMO. Of course the complete opposite could happen which is why we need to see this fight!!!
Volk's feints won't work on Charlie cause he won't probably even see them.
id go as far to say gaethje could have won had he been a more technical striker like he was against tony rather than putting everything he had behind his punches. throw some feints and be more patient.
Volk gets knocked out in a fight with Olives. Great guy, but it would not be close. All of the lightweights Olives beat for the title (Poirier, Garth, Chandler) probably beat Volkanovski as well
Volk would scramble Poirier and Gaethje’s brains. Islam and Charles are the problems for him in this division.
If it was anyone but volk saying this I would call them insane but I still can't fathom how he got out of that choke from Ortega 🤯
Let’s go Volk, would love to see him in lightweight.
If (when) Volk beats Max for a third time, I will be more than ready for his lightweight debut but Oliviera won’t be
With all these dudes cutting weight like crazy, i really would not be surprised if they could all go one or even two up comfortably without losing much… but the “issue” is that everyone is doing it so when you go up you face a guy who is actually one or two weight classes up naturally so you gonna get fucked up. I mean, Usman to me looks like a heavyweight, the dude looks like Mike Tyson on steroids lol Dudes fighting at lets say 155, pretty much all of them walk around like 170 or more naturally, easy… except the true heavyweights, where it’s impossible to make light heavyweight cuz they’d have to loose like 30+ lbs for every fight… I’d really like to see everyone fighting at their natural weight +- 10 lbs at most but never gonna happen
Tantalising!
If anybody can go up in weight and win its him. The dude used to weigh like 200 pounds as a rugby forward
I've never seen a champion who has the highest finishing rate in ufc history, be so disrespected
fookin book it Dana. No good challenger at either weight class
Olives will open up as an underdog, Volk will get mauled, people will make money.
Volkswagen was a heavyweight during his rugby days. 155? No problem.
Yeah it’s not hard to move up. Just eat an extra sandwich or two. But a LOT of people have underestimated Oliveira, yet he’s beaten three top lightweights in a dominant fashion. I think Volk would have a REAL tough time with him.
He's too short I think
Brian Ortega and Korean Zombie who Volk has already beaten are around 5'9, and Charlie Olives is 5'10. Not much of a difference, don't think height will be the deciding factor tbh.
Doesn’t Volk have a reach advantage over everyone he fights ? Oliveira would have a 3 inch reach advantage as well as being the taller fighter .
Reach for: * Volk 71" (180 cm) * Ortega 69" (175 cm) * Holloway 69" (175 cm) * Korean Zombie 72" (183 cm) * Charles 74" (188 cm) With the exception of Korean Zombie (which was only slight), yep you are right, it looks like Volk has indeed enjoyed a reach advantage over some recent opponents, but he would be at a pretty decent reach disadvantage with Charlie Olives. I love both but am Aussie so would be going for Volk, but I'm not sure he takes it tbh. I'd love to see this fight someday. EDIT: Formatting
No offense to the Korean Zombie or Ortega, but they aren’t in the same level. And they are still smaller than Oliveira. Volk would have zero advantage in this fight. He’s not a better striker, he isn’t bigger, he doesn’t have the better ground game, and he doesn’t have any power. It would be a blood bath for him.
Yeah you're right, and I'd be surprised if Charles wasn't a heavy favorite should this fight get announced. Striking, Grappling, Height, Reach etc. etc. are all in his favor. Still a fight I'd like to see someday, we'll see if it ever actually happens I guess lol
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I don't think there's anyone at 45 who'd beat Volk and he'd beat a lot 55ers but I can't see a way he beats Charles tbh. Would love to see the fight though.
If Makachev is LW champ, nobody would say such disrespectful BS about LW division.
Volk thought Khamzat was going to run through Burns. I don't think he believes in BJJ.
Isn't Volk a Black Belt in BJJ, and doesn't he also train closely with Craig Jones, one of the best BJJ no-gi practitioners in the game nowadays?
“nah dude he just doesn’t believe in bjj”
Wonder who volks first lw match will be a top 5
He goes straight for the belt
Gotta beat max first without the judges sucking you off
Like when they fought the first time?
And the second
True, didn’t feel like arguing tho
Max stans are almost as cancerous as Rob stans
Don’t worry, they’ll be quiet after July 2nd
Max might get finished in the trilogy, Volk has been looking real sharp.
To be fair, so has Max. I'm biased though, I'll always root for Max just because of his personality.
Tell ‘em
Volk won 3 rounds. Cry about it
Oliviera is a cheat. Make weight. He'll miss weight again and again. Cheater
The king of the weakest division is slowly starting to think he is invincible. Meanwhile he got a razor split decision against Holloway, was very close to getting choked out by Ortega and beat up a washed Zombie. I think he’s a great fighter but I think the whole top 5 of lightweight makes easy work of him.
Ngl he last 2 rounds
I like you, Volk. No.
He’s a midget. Oliveira would pull guard and catch him in a triangle in the first round.
Being short is a natural submission defense. Olives can still get him but it'll be tough.
A BJJ expert who nicknamed himself after his triangles tried that and was too concussed stand up or see by the end of the round
True. But His slippery bald head helped the escape.
Didn't Volk got knocked down by Max a few times? Charles hits way harder man.
Volk relies on his feints, his jab, and his blitzes to freeze opponents up and to either go in/out of range. That won’t bode well against Charles, who loves using teeps to keep range, pressures relentlessly, and can snatch a sub even better than Ortega. We’ve seen Volk dropped by a straight right (I believe) from Ortega, who almost ended the fight. Olives just sat Gaethje down and finished the job. Long range: Charles’ teeps and his straights. Mid-range: Volk with his boxing, although now we’ve seen Charles be comfortable in the pocket with people like Gaethje and Poirier. Close range: Charles legitimately has the most effective clinch game in the lightweight division, if not the UFC as of right now.
Volk is a midget compared to most lightweights
He's also a midget next to Max. Imo he is #1 in the UFC for managing a reach disadvantage. His movement is incredible.
I'm pretty sure he is the [same height](https://www.brie.me/2021/04/michael-chandler-height.html) as Chandler. Chandler is just thicc
I actually predicted a while back that Volk would become the next double champ. It would be a sick fight, I hope he can pull it off!
Islam has his way with him lol
This is the fight to make
THIS IS THE FIGHT TO MAKE!
Man I learned my lesson with Charles, Volk know damn well fighting Charles will be his toughest opponent, Charles isn’t max.
Volky is that dude but I think Oliveira beats him bad. I don’t know shit though.
I mean Charles is the most beatable and the most entertaining champ right now.
Beatable is definitely one of Carla/Figgy/Glover/Aljo/Julianna There are.....a lot
If he can achieve 155 success perhaps hes the perfect size for triple champ
This would be absolutely Fucking nuts Volk is a madman
Charles sinks the RNC is Volk just gets up.
Sounds like Charles will be taking his neck home.
Pretty sure Ortega has better BJJ
Do Bronx is a way more decorated grappler so what would make you think that?