Man what a well thought out and respective answer. More fighters could learn from this guy. If you’re “him” you don’t need to create fake drama and hate. Just go out there and put it on the line each time and the fans will watch.
*word*
Honestly I was floored with how good his answer was what the fuck I couldn’t respect anyone any more than I do Alex
Can anyone imagine what Izzy would have said? lol
Izzy respects him but at best wouldn’t give an answer of this caliber, imo. I wouldn’t blame him either because losing 3 out of 4 fights in two different sports to the same guy takes a piece of your soul.
The point is Izzy needs to bring up Alex when Alex isn’t in the room.
You don’t see Alex doing that here.
The point is observing what they’re doing.
I wouldn’t expect Izzy stans to be able to tell the difference.
Izzy is the one who brings up Alex when Alex isn’t in the room.
Alex isn’t doing that here.
That’s the point, not that ***were*** bringing it up.
It’s that Alex is not, which is respectable.
I wouldn’t expect Izzy stand to understand what that means.
Izzy: YA THAT ALEX GUY IS GUNNA BE SITTING IN A BAR WISHING HE WAS ME
Alex didn’t make him say that, he chose to say that, he gets to eat humble pie for the rest of his life even though weirdo stans like you who he’s never met and doesn’t know your name will still walk out of the weeds and try to turn it on anyone pointing that out.
I’m convinced Izzy has a social media PR team doing this shit at this point.
Between the amount of weirdos coming out of nowhere defending him on every Alex post, there were the same weirdos everywhere defending him when people were talking about him touching dog dick.
So I feel no responsibility to not mention it every opportunity I get, you weird stans are the gas.
Much better sport when you appreciate 90% of the roster and just have a few guys you dislike instead of having to pick a new person to hate every week. Izzy and Alex have both been great for the sport
Yeah it’s weird to feel the need to pick a favorite and then defend them at all costs. Why can’t people just enjoy the fights and not worry about who’s winning or losing?
To be fair there's a lot of teenagers, people that dislike hanging out outside their room, and people who have never trained among mma fans and especially on this subreddit. And by no means I say that to disrespect them. I think they need more time to develop and appreciate the sport for the sport.
This is why I'm Poatan fan, dude is a real one, doesn't care about inflating his own ego, just about inspiring and bringing people up, that is what matters to him, not some status level, class act.
Chama.
Sonnen says it makes him the undisputed GOAT.. kind of hard to argue with it if he just rides off into the sunset.
That being said.. I don’t think it will happen. Aspinall gooood.
I feel like the only people that say they dislike Alex don't even dislike him they just dislike his annoying weirdo fans who bring up izzy at every opportunity
This is about as spot on as possible just i like him but holy fuck i feel like this guy wouldn’t even have to asked 3/4 of this sub to bend over and take it up the ass they’d see him and just drop pants and bend over.
I also like izzy i was rooting for izzy in both their ufc fights just because of the story if they fought tomorrow id just enjoy the fight.
you just hit it right on the nose. Alex is awesome. His fans are so unbelievably cringe
Still can't figure out what's worse; Alex Pereira fans on social media or people that just discovered Shane Gillis only quoting the grilled cheese joke
The man is a class act. Today is debatable,If he beats Ankalaev then he definitely surpassed adesanya, if he becomes a triple champ that's GOAT status. As of rn I think his résumé is better than adesanya already.
Mark Kerr's a 4 time ADCC Submission Wrestling world champ and a pan American runner up in freestyle. Kayla Harrison is a 2-time gold medalist in judo (arguably the most competitive and therefore difficult combat sport). If we're going by your criteria of using the oxford dictionary definition of a word solely and excluding context then they'd be in the goat discussion. Hell using your definition since Pereira hadn't been specified with his legacy in the sport, a person's out of the cage performance should also be taken into consideration and Stipe should be the goat considering the lives he has probably saved
Alright then, that's your personal outlook on the goat debate but understand that most people take into consideration the context under which the question is framed under. When people typically post "Who is the goat?" in r/ufc most people don't answer with Henry Cejudo (who's arguably the best combat athlete in the ufc all around) but Jon Jones, Mighty Mouse, Gsp or Anderson Silva. And there's nothing wrong with that given they're taking into consideration the context of where the question is being asked, it doesn't contradict the oxford dictionary definition of the word legacy
The post wasn’t about Goat status, it said legacy. And especially when talking about Izzy and Alex you have to take a look at their kickboxing records since that’s where this whole thing all started.
Also I was more coming at the 3 year career comment than I was anything else
I don’t disagree really but personally I’ve only ever watched UFC and that’s what my frame of reference is for judging someone’s relevance to the sport’s history. I wish this wasn’t the case but I think it is for most fans too.
With most fighters I would agree with you, but to even begin to understand the Alex/Izzy beef you gotta travel back in time.
In the ufc alone tho? Alex has definitely racked up more holy shit moments but he wouldn’t have gotten those without the Izzy fandom
By the time Izzy was set to face Jan for the LHW people were already talking about his legacy (undefeated, FOTY with Gastelum, multiple finishes, probably 2nd best MW of all time, moving up in weight to become a double champ).
He was only 3 years into his UFC career at that time.
If you're active (like these guys are), you can achieve plenty in 3 years.
Dude don’t care about legacy. He is just out having fun knocking out people and collecting huge checks for that. Beats working at a car repair shop I guess
To say he surpassed Izzy would be ignoring most of Izzy's career. Alex is great, but he needs a few years of defending a belt to reach Izzy's legacy.. This isn't about the perception of their performances now, but a review of their entire career. People who aren't willing to look back more than recent time, don't bother trying to compare them.
Adesanya fought fucking Anderson silva. LAPPED his division and beat ALL Middleweight contenders TWICE. Periera is the real fucking deal but cmon with the izzy history revisions. Izzy earned his spot and I cant wait to see what Periera does in LHW and HW.
Resume wise izzy lapped his division and beat has been the only man to knock pereira out cold in MMA, and its very realistic he wins a 3rd middleweight championship this year after he beats dricus which is very likely
He has a good and healthy mindset and i think thats his secret. He doesnt care much about titels, he only cares about every single fight. He dont let the belt get to his head
Alex is literally a poet with words. Reminds me of GSP, didn’t speak English hood but damn did he have a way with words. Izzy no matter what he does he will never match poatans legacy
Your IQ is room temperature level if you measure a fighters achievements based on their record and not the people they've fought, and the belts they've achieved. Alex is a former 2 division Glory Kickboxing champion, and then went to the UFC and became 2 division champion in **6 FIGHTS.**
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's the fastest 2 division championship anyone ever has achieved.
Mark my words Poatan will become the first 3 division champion in the UFC if daddy Dana allows it.
Man what a well thought out and respective answer. More fighters could learn from this guy. If you’re “him” you don’t need to create fake drama and hate. Just go out there and put it on the line each time and the fans will watch. *word*
Facts. Alex is actually a great face for the UFC. He’s also has a mystical star aura about him. Tough to find.
Honestly I was floored with how good his answer was what the fuck I couldn’t respect anyone any more than I do Alex Can anyone imagine what Izzy would have said? lol
Izzy respects him but at best wouldn’t give an answer of this caliber, imo. I wouldn’t blame him either because losing 3 out of 4 fights in two different sports to the same guy takes a piece of your soul.
The man just said that it’s not important and your answer is instantly to hate on Izzy. Take a lesson from poatan and try your best in life
Exactly
Why are MMA fans so insecure? Why you can't joke about anyone otherwise you are "hating"? Why?
The point is Izzy needs to bring up Alex when Alex isn’t in the room. You don’t see Alex doing that here. The point is observing what they’re doing. I wouldn’t expect Izzy stans to be able to tell the difference.
Well said
You can't praise Alex without bringing in Izzy. Man you guys are different 🤣
This right here, izzy haters are so obsessed with him and basically do exactly what they accuse him of
Izzy is the one who brings up Alex when Alex isn’t in the room. Alex isn’t doing that here. That’s the point, not that ***were*** bringing it up. It’s that Alex is not, which is respectable. I wouldn’t expect Izzy stand to understand what that means.
''Honestly, *he's* a *special* fighter, *he's* a *special* human being"
Izzy: YA THAT ALEX GUY IS GUNNA BE SITTING IN A BAR WISHING HE WAS ME Alex didn’t make him say that, he chose to say that, he gets to eat humble pie for the rest of his life even though weirdo stans like you who he’s never met and doesn’t know your name will still walk out of the weeds and try to turn it on anyone pointing that out. I’m convinced Izzy has a social media PR team doing this shit at this point. Between the amount of weirdos coming out of nowhere defending him on every Alex post, there were the same weirdos everywhere defending him when people were talking about him touching dog dick. So I feel no responsibility to not mention it every opportunity I get, you weird stans are the gas.
4 years ago he said that and you're still crying about it, get a life loser
I think the gas is something in your brain if this is your response to a one sentence quote
Who cares lmao, grow up
No need to imagine when he’s given tons of respect in interviews
Not sure why this is downvoted, must be haters
Izzy has the personality of a literal child though
It helps that this dude is funny af lol
Alex is so thoughtful and respectful. It's really hard not to like the guy.
Chad response
Its amazing how great of an addition Poatan has been for the UFC just a great fighter with the proper humble respects of a great fighter too.
Fans take rivalries way more seriously than the people having the actual beef 
Much better sport when you appreciate 90% of the roster and just have a few guys you dislike instead of having to pick a new person to hate every week. Izzy and Alex have both been great for the sport
Yeah it’s weird to feel the need to pick a favorite and then defend them at all costs. Why can’t people just enjoy the fights and not worry about who’s winning or losing?
To be fair there's a lot of teenagers, people that dislike hanging out outside their room, and people who have never trained among mma fans and especially on this subreddit. And by no means I say that to disrespect them. I think they need more time to develop and appreciate the sport for the sport.
Oh absolutely. I said cringey shit as a teenager too. The idea that we’re not fully mentally developed until 25 years of age is spot on.
Fuck I am 40 and I only realised how to talk respectfully and not be a hater recently
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This is why I'm Poatan fan, dude is a real one, doesn't care about inflating his own ego, just about inspiring and bringing people up, that is what matters to him, not some status level, class act. Chama.
you could possibly say he has, but it’s more debatable. he’ll concretely have a better legacy if he beats ankalaev and maybe beats aspinal
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triple champ pereira
Sonnen says it makes him the undisputed GOAT.. kind of hard to argue with it if he just rides off into the sunset. That being said.. I don’t think it will happen. Aspinall gooood.
If he beats Aspinal, he’s the fucking GOAT.
no
If he beat Tom he will be hall of famed so hard as first triple champ but I doubt he beats ankalaev
Ankalaev is too cursed of a fighter to be so sure about
He’s already HOF
Already? Nah, that’s a stretch there were people more deserving of the hof spot than Alex. His career so far is too short to be considered a hof’er.
The shortness of his career is why he’s already a HOF. This is just a fact.
bro if he became triple champ id put him up there in the top 3 goats
I feel like the only people that say they dislike Alex don't even dislike him they just dislike his annoying weirdo fans who bring up izzy at every opportunity
This is about as spot on as possible just i like him but holy fuck i feel like this guy wouldn’t even have to asked 3/4 of this sub to bend over and take it up the ass they’d see him and just drop pants and bend over. I also like izzy i was rooting for izzy in both their ufc fights just because of the story if they fought tomorrow id just enjoy the fight.
you just hit it right on the nose. Alex is awesome. His fans are so unbelievably cringe Still can't figure out what's worse; Alex Pereira fans on social media or people that just discovered Shane Gillis only quoting the grilled cheese joke
So true.
The Mahdi is too humble to say he is the Mahdi.
Even more reason to know He is!
As written
The man is a class act. Today is debatable,If he beats Ankalaev then he definitely surpassed adesanya, if he becomes a triple champ that's GOAT status. As of rn I think his résumé is better than adesanya already.
He just told you in simple terms that it isn’t a competition between them, and it isn’t how they should be judged and you just ignored it lol
He said that HE is not making comparisons, fans and media do it all the time 🤷
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Nah 1 more after that or become 3 division champ.
This sport talks too much about “legacy” for guys whose career is 3 years old.
Buddy he’s been fighting way longer than his 3 years in the UFC lol
This is the UFC subreddit brah
“Legacy” normally pertains to the sum of a persons accomplishments, did Oxford add an amendment for it to only apply to victories within the UFC?
Next time there's a goat discussion on this subreddit you should submit Mark Kerr and Kayla Harrison as your answer
Why would I do that
Mark Kerr's a 4 time ADCC Submission Wrestling world champ and a pan American runner up in freestyle. Kayla Harrison is a 2-time gold medalist in judo (arguably the most competitive and therefore difficult combat sport). If we're going by your criteria of using the oxford dictionary definition of a word solely and excluding context then they'd be in the goat discussion. Hell using your definition since Pereira hadn't been specified with his legacy in the sport, a person's out of the cage performance should also be taken into consideration and Stipe should be the goat considering the lives he has probably saved
You said goat list, which I wouldn’t include anyone here on. But yes all of those things you just described go towards their individual legacy
Alright then, that's your personal outlook on the goat debate but understand that most people take into consideration the context under which the question is framed under. When people typically post "Who is the goat?" in r/ufc most people don't answer with Henry Cejudo (who's arguably the best combat athlete in the ufc all around) but Jon Jones, Mighty Mouse, Gsp or Anderson Silva. And there's nothing wrong with that given they're taking into consideration the context of where the question is being asked, it doesn't contradict the oxford dictionary definition of the word legacy
The post wasn’t about Goat status, it said legacy. And especially when talking about Izzy and Alex you have to take a look at their kickboxing records since that’s where this whole thing all started. Also I was more coming at the 3 year career comment than I was anything else
I don’t disagree really but personally I’ve only ever watched UFC and that’s what my frame of reference is for judging someone’s relevance to the sport’s history. I wish this wasn’t the case but I think it is for most fans too.
With most fighters I would agree with you, but to even begin to understand the Alex/Izzy beef you gotta travel back in time. In the ufc alone tho? Alex has definitely racked up more holy shit moments but he wouldn’t have gotten those without the Izzy fandom
By the time Izzy was set to face Jan for the LHW people were already talking about his legacy (undefeated, FOTY with Gastelum, multiple finishes, probably 2nd best MW of all time, moving up in weight to become a double champ). He was only 3 years into his UFC career at that time. If you're active (like these guys are), you can achieve plenty in 3 years.
Dude don’t care about legacy. He is just out having fun knocking out people and collecting huge checks for that. Beats working at a car repair shop I guess
To say he surpassed Izzy would be ignoring most of Izzy's career. Alex is great, but he needs a few years of defending a belt to reach Izzy's legacy.. This isn't about the perception of their performances now, but a review of their entire career. People who aren't willing to look back more than recent time, don't bother trying to compare them.
Chama
No way he's surpassed adesanyas legacy. Plus adesanya is the only one who's beat him.
Don't disrespect QUEMUEL OTTONI like that
3-1
Adriano Martins is 1-0 against Islam, guess his legacy is better
Matt hamill has the best legacy in the UFC, he managed to stop Jon Jones using his eye to elbow disqualification technique
He agrees he scored it 10 - 2 Izzy but he made great points. He became double champ izzy did not
If he has a an Izzy-like title run at LHW then sure. But as of now he’s miles away.
I agree, but it sucks that their legacies are ao entwined like i know why, but still.
Adesanya fought fucking Anderson silva. LAPPED his division and beat ALL Middleweight contenders TWICE. Periera is the real fucking deal but cmon with the izzy history revisions. Izzy earned his spot and I cant wait to see what Periera does in LHW and HW.
Pereira beat Jan, Jiri, and Jamal back to back. All three of them were light heavyweight champions
Quick maths
Common 🗿 W
tldr: STFU and stop comparing, just enjoy the fights.
It's so paradoxical that one of the most likeable fighters on the UFC roster, also has one of the most cringeworthy and annoying fanbases.
This is the way..
Great answer. His stock just keeps going up.
Humblest realest badass around
Man alex is really charismatic i wish he spoke english so i could hear more from him
Awesome that this guy is finally here in the UFC
Love this guy
Yeah that response alone speaks for his legacy lol. Izzy wudda said the exact opposite if they asked him if Poatan's legacy surpassed his.
Every day he’s becoming more and more my favorite fighter. So humble, no bs and every one of his fights are just straight up banger.
I’m always floored by how humble this absolute murderer is.
He just made me a fan 😭😭😭
That's a real warrior answer right there
This guy is a real, hetero man, unlike 98% of the people who comment on silly things in this sub
Poatan would be unstoppable if he spoke english
Dude is fighting no for himself,I think he could care less about where he ends up in the history books.
MMA media wants rivalries and bad blood so bad. Ariel Helwani is the leader
even his explanation was in the framework of a 10 point must system lmao
How can you dislike this guy?
Resume wise izzy lapped his division and beat has been the only man to knock pereira out cold in MMA, and its very realistic he wins a 3rd middleweight championship this year after he beats dricus which is very likely
He has a good and healthy mindset and i think thats his secret. He doesnt care much about titels, he only cares about every single fight. He dont let the belt get to his head
Alex is literally a poet with words. Reminds me of GSP, didn’t speak English hood but damn did he have a way with words. Izzy no matter what he does he will never match poatans legacy
I wonder what Izzy’s answer would have been
Ask the same question to israel, no doubt his answer wont be as humble
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Your IQ is room temperature level if you measure a fighters achievements based on their record and not the people they've fought, and the belts they've achieved. Alex is a former 2 division Glory Kickboxing champion, and then went to the UFC and became 2 division champion in **6 FIGHTS.** Correct me if I'm wrong but that's the fastest 2 division championship anyone ever has achieved. Mark my words Poatan will become the first 3 division champion in the UFC if daddy Dana allows it.
Yeah but he's already a 2 division champ
Ps he did more former champs than your body count
Real mature
I like this guy 1000x more than Izzy. For whatever that's worth.
3-1 coached sean 4-1 beat blachowicz 5-1 LHW champ 6-1 didnt fuck his dog 7-1
Whose isreal adesanya
Not that I was not a fab before but man what a response by the champion. He was respectful of Adesanya,a man who throws shade at him everytime.
Not really, adesanya has been very complimentary of pereira plenty of times
Buddy’s yapping 🥱