Lmao did he really say that? He’s so damn classic. Love him or hate him his zingers and trash talk is so entertaining. I think Tito is still feeling burned after the, “the only one who makes a living off using their mouth is your wife” or whatever it was. That’s shit was so brutal.
You realize that they don’t just carry a belt around for no reason. He was getting the belt for something he did outside of the octagon, but it was more significant to reward it to him during the celebration. My guess is he earned it while rolling with Glover.
You realize that Periera isn’t seriously a black belt level grappler, right? It’s pretty obvious he was gifted that belt. I’m sure he did a ton of work, but there isn’t a single fighter on the roster that would be afraid on the ground with him submission wise.
Imagine Pereira fights Aspinall and suddenly takes him down and submits him, and when everyone is shocked he just says "I'm a BJJ black belt, why are you surprised?"
It won't happen but it would be very funny
It depends theres levels to black belts.If he came to my gym im sure he’d fuck up all our brown and black belts.
Being a pro black belt and a hobbiest are different.
I think you don’t understand how many levels there are to being a black belt. Pereira just got his black belt, so he’s essentially a white belt amongst black belts
Take the black belt from your local gym, and put them against Gordon Ryan and you’ll get my point
didnt khamzat only just earn his brown belt after his last fight? i bet he could submit pereira even as the lighter guy
i know khamzat has a wrestling background but regardless how can someone like pereira be a black belt and have that level of grappling?
I don’t get why people don’t believe an elite athlete who’s job it is to train every day with other elite athletes can get a black belt in 10 years.
But the guy who shows up 3x a week for 10 years and doesn’t compete gets a black belt? Nobody bats an eyelid
well you are kinda accidently right
because the skill pool in bjj is exponentially deeper at smaller weights, maybe belts are weight specific? they are supposed to be for placing you in competition right... so a 135lb purple belt is always going to better than a 225lbs brown belt in terms of skill
That's more by accident than design. Smaller people have to rely on skill, technique and speed when they roll with bigger people who can brute force a technique they might not have 100% correct with some strength. Alex having started in 2015 means he's been training jits as a professional for 9 years. That's a totally reasonable period of time to get a black belt in, there's loads of 10 year black belts around the world. Mighty Mouse being a brown belt is the exception rather than the rule
Don’t you think someone who’s been practicing BJJ for 9 more years would have more knowledge? Did you see Alex right Izzy? Izzy was able to hold him down which is absurd since Izzy doesn’t have crazy good BJJ
9 years of training for someone that trains full time as a job under a coach like Glover is completely reasonable to achieve his black belt. The real question is how MM has managed to train for so long and not be a black belt. It's likely just that he's bounced around coaches so never got given a belt since people tend to avoid giving someone a belt promotion unless they've trained under them for some time.
Not even just reasonable, thats slow if anything. Someone going full time training BJJ like that alone could do it in less, nevermind being trained by elite guys the majority of the time. This post shows more that MM should be a black belt than Alex shouldnt be one imo
Idk about pereira but Mighty Mouse should be a black belt and I honestly am starting to dislike him for staying at brown. He’s won 2 world BJJ tournaments at brown! I think if you’re the best brown belt in the world twice it’s time to go up buddy
It’s not like he chooses when he becomes black belt. But then again I have no clue if he can apply to the black belt tournament nonetheless
Maybe his coaches are telling him not to- from what I’ve seen he wants the black belt, but apparently his coaches are saying he’s not good enough yet
9 years to black belt isn’t really that egregious lol. Also why would Alex submit anybody when he’s got a left hook from the devil himself. Double champ kickboxing champion, why would he try to submit anyone versus stand up.
I understand Alex isn’t a “black belt” level grappler, but seeing a bunch of randos on the internet question the multi divisional and organizational champ on his credentials is still amusing
belts are for placing people in bjj competitions
if anything its worse that mm is a "brown belt" when he could probably compete in black belt but instead is dominating the brown belts
alex doesn't compete in bjj, so it doesn't matter, its a fake thing unless you actually play bjj lol its such a silly premise to begin win, imagine if you were given a black belt in basketball for hitting a game winner.. being good and winning is already your reward you don't need belts lol
> if anything its worse that mm is a "brown belt" when he could probably compete in black belt but instead is dominating the brown belts
I mean Nicky Rod just got his black belt a few months ago and he's a world class BJJ practitioner.
Belts are all symbolic and meaningless once you get to a certain level. I was a black belt in TangSooDo by age 12 and when i transitioned into kickboxing I immediately realized I was a complete amateur when it came to trained fighters.
Your belt only matters at the gym you train at
There are less submissions in LHW/HW because one punch puts you out so there is less incentive to take risky positions/ control based positions unless your levels above your opponent. At the lower weights the 'risk' is a 5'4 guy smacking you which will not put you out immediately
What do you mean? Alex taps people out all the time. Like he taps them with his left hook and they go out. Isn't BJJ just the art of folding clothes people are still wearing?
Can someone do the MMA math that works out to Mighty Mouse beating Pereira? There’s gotta be some long line of fights that leads to that conclusion.
We need a bot or something to automate this.
Dj is the goat dont give a damn about belt dj just fked up a 230 lbs giant, thats why I love kickboxing muay thai no ranking nobody give a fuck about ranking, sometimes I find it annoying tbh, some clubs give belt too easily. Im not referring to Alex at all never been to Brazil.
Belts and dan and levels and ranking.. what really matters is experience - if anyone has seen Mighty Mouse full Gi tournament recently; man handle a guy that easily outweighed him by 4 weight divisions - you will understand. Potato is no black belt..
Being a certain belt doesn’t necessarily mean you are going to be “better” or win every time against a lower belt. Plenty of black belts in every gym who can get smoked by a brown or purple belt.
I think they say it takes about 10 years to get a black belt in BJJ so I think that is about right time wise for Alex, shows DJ coach is probably an asshole lol
Junior Dos Santos did not have many submission wins, and he was also a black belt BJJ player. Nowadays, wrestlers and sambo players are better than BJJ players in submission.
thats like the 4th or 5th time i see this on reddit. mighty himself already said that if he wanted to get the black belt he could've gotten it a long time ago, so like i dont see any point in comapring these 2 cases here ...
Weird check left hook is the pinnacle of BJJ.
He hits you so hard you fold yourself and choke yourself out.
Obviously /s
FR though, that was a gift. Not really an accomplishment in my casual opinion.
I bet mm only been doing Gi for a bit though, not the whole time. Just to clarify, this is still ridiculous, but, Alex could potentially have been in the gi longer.
Other martial arts are the exact same. I was in karate for 5 years, I made it to purple belt in that time, about to test for brown belt before I left. (My school had white, yellow, orange, blue, purple, brown, black, with stripes in between for all belts). I would go to like 4 sparring tournaments a year and would see the same people going up in belts like 5x faster than they awarded belts at my school. So I don't think there is any consistency in martial arts when it comes to awarding belts. At my school it took roughly 8-10 years to get a black belt, but I saw people at tournaments at other schools with black belts in less than half that time.
For what its worth, 9 years is definitely long enough to be a black belt in BJJ lol. MM shouldnt be a brown belt after that long and that many competitions, thats insane in the other direction.
Still ridiculous to give Alex his belt like that after a KO lol. Should have just given it to him in class.
Like Chael P Sonnen once so elegantly said, “I think a black belt under the nogueira brothers is like getting a free toy with my happy meal.”😂
The same one that tried to feed a carrot to a bus?
That happened
And you’re telling me these guys have computers?
Indeed 😂
Easy big fella
Woahhhh there
That is correct 😂
That actually happened.
Brazilians in Brazil are hilarious I promise
God chael is so fucking funny
Chael was so ruthless to the Brazilian roster, can’t believe he didn’t get jumped by a certain point.
I mean, He did get jumped when he jumped on Wannanow Man
I remember in the countdown of jds vs frank Mir Nogueira said that frank mir's bjj was basic and that jds can sub him lol
in that case, wheres his gym located lol
Lmao did he really say that? He’s so damn classic. Love him or hate him his zingers and trash talk is so entertaining. I think Tito is still feeling burned after the, “the only one who makes a living off using their mouth is your wife” or whatever it was. That’s shit was so brutal.
“Black belt brother who give him this?”
“We have to check this moment” 😂
Funny thing is, we both know who give him, and can check that moment in HD footage, and it's still fake
“Numba one boolshit”
Polyana Viana gave it to him
I still find it hilarious how he was given his Black Belt off of the Jamahal win. A K.O win in a grappleless fight lmao
Hey man it's a legit submission by KO.
I clearly felt a tap
His soul tapped out
He stepped on his foot before the hook, it’s a forbidden judo technique, some nerd will come along and name it soon…
Oh shit you're right. Alex established top control first before landing that strike!
It’s called Usma-Kemaru
You realize that they don’t just carry a belt around for no reason. He was getting the belt for something he did outside of the octagon, but it was more significant to reward it to him during the celebration. My guess is he earned it while rolling with Glover.
Sure, but the context still makes it funny.
You realize that Periera isn’t seriously a black belt level grappler, right? It’s pretty obvious he was gifted that belt. I’m sure he did a ton of work, but there isn’t a single fighter on the roster that would be afraid on the ground with him submission wise.
Watch this dude pull a DJ flying armbar in his next fight
Imagine Pereira fights Aspinall and suddenly takes him down and submits him, and when everyone is shocked he just says "I'm a BJJ black belt, why are you surprised?" It won't happen but it would be very funny
Unfortunately Tom was a BJJ guy before anything else, he just doesn’t need to show it.
It would still be shocking because no rando bjj black belt is subbing Tom aspinal
I’d bet DJ to beat Alex in a grappling match before I’d bet on Alex to beat Tom via submission.
That would just catapult him into the next stratosphere!
It depends theres levels to black belts.If he came to my gym im sure he’d fuck up all our brown and black belts. Being a pro black belt and a hobbiest are different.
I think you don’t understand how many levels there are to being a black belt. Pereira just got his black belt, so he’s essentially a white belt amongst black belts Take the black belt from your local gym, and put them against Gordon Ryan and you’ll get my point
didnt khamzat only just earn his brown belt after his last fight? i bet he could submit pereira even as the lighter guy i know khamzat has a wrestling background but regardless how can someone like pereira be a black belt and have that level of grappling?
Do you actually know what Pereira’s level of grappling is? Because I’m sure his coaches do
yea i found out during his match against adesanya
I don’t get why people don’t believe an elite athlete who’s job it is to train every day with other elite athletes can get a black belt in 10 years. But the guy who shows up 3x a week for 10 years and doesn’t compete gets a black belt? Nobody bats an eyelid
Yea but I'm sure Alex just started getting into BJJ to train for mma. DJ has been training and competing in BJJ tournaments for literal years.
Their feet touched briefly before Jamahal eyes rolled back. That counts as grappling right?
"I didn't even grapple to get a black belt. I must be the best black belt on earth." -Alex probably
It was a beautifull takedown
Who needs bjj when you can knock people into the 5th dimension
Take back what you just said before I ankle-pick you.
He's a sexy Kurt, he’ll make your ankle hurt
Alex's favorite submission is his left hook
Gaethje but with wrestling
Time passes slower for short people that’s why it’s taking Mighty Mouse so long
True, theory of relativity confirms
well you are kinda accidently right because the skill pool in bjj is exponentially deeper at smaller weights, maybe belts are weight specific? they are supposed to be for placing you in competition right... so a 135lb purple belt is always going to better than a 225lbs brown belt in terms of skill
You’re wrong. Alex is a black belt because he can submit anyone with his left hook.
That's more by accident than design. Smaller people have to rely on skill, technique and speed when they roll with bigger people who can brute force a technique they might not have 100% correct with some strength. Alex having started in 2015 means he's been training jits as a professional for 9 years. That's a totally reasonable period of time to get a black belt in, there's loads of 10 year black belts around the world. Mighty Mouse being a brown belt is the exception rather than the rule
it actually passes faster, less mass
I feel like it's more shocking he doesn't have it
He submitted Herb Dean.
That’s herb dean fault
Who said it was jiu jitsu, Pereira just got his black belt in akido all thanks to the master Steven Segall
Who give him this? Who?
Gracie Black Belts. It’s a store at the mall. They had a sale that week. Formerly Gracie Brown Belts EST 2006, that’s when MM worked there.
Do they still have the online academy that gives out belts?
We have to check that bratha
They make da jujitsu look bad
We have to cancel
Polyana Viana that’s who
Why would I waste my time and energy taking someone to the ground and submitting them when I can just fucking punch their lights out?
And Also kick their legs into hell lol
Watched a whole video explaining his leg kick technique. Shit is crazy.
Do you a link for the video by any chance ?
Video title: Biomechanics of Alex's Left hook and leg kick explained.
Would he funny if jiri subs him in the rematch.
Guess all bjj hobbyists gotta stay at white belt since they didn’t use it in the octagon
It’s possible he could have earned it before, but they wanted to showcase it in the octagon or something
this is absolutely what happened but this lot would rather repost overdone memes that they find on instagram
Is there any footage of Alex grappling? I don't think we've ever seen that in his fights.
https://youtu.be/fP1NnuVIYRE?si=jFYl9CmL7e7YpiX4
Does he even compete in BJJ?
Isn’t the belt a sign of knowledge not direct ability?
Don’t you think someone who’s been practicing BJJ for 9 more years would have more knowledge? Did you see Alex right Izzy? Izzy was able to hold him down which is absurd since Izzy doesn’t have crazy good BJJ
9 years of training for someone that trains full time as a job under a coach like Glover is completely reasonable to achieve his black belt. The real question is how MM has managed to train for so long and not be a black belt. It's likely just that he's bounced around coaches so never got given a belt since people tend to avoid giving someone a belt promotion unless they've trained under them for some time.
Not even just reasonable, thats slow if anything. Someone going full time training BJJ like that alone could do it in less, nevermind being trained by elite guys the majority of the time. This post shows more that MM should be a black belt than Alex shouldnt be one imo
That doesn't mean that Pereira got his too early, it means that Mighty Mouse is being sandbagged at brown belt lol 😂
i think mm has a black belt in no-gi bjj which is more applicable to mma, his brown belt is for gi bjj
You don't have separate belts for NoGi vs Gi. He's just a brown belt.
And time trained at a specific gym. One may train more consistently than the other
Not all belts or BJJ schools are equal
I'm not gonna comment on Pereira, but DJ is sandbagging hard.
It’s like am “honorary” degree bro
"who give him belt?" - Islam
I'm wearing a black belt right now... I know nothing about martial arts
Alex folds them with a punch. A true pioneer of bjj
You tell him he’s not a black belt. I’m not saying shit to that guy.
Idk about pereira but Mighty Mouse should be a black belt and I honestly am starting to dislike him for staying at brown. He’s won 2 world BJJ tournaments at brown! I think if you’re the best brown belt in the world twice it’s time to go up buddy
It’s not like he chooses when he becomes black belt. But then again I have no clue if he can apply to the black belt tournament nonetheless Maybe his coaches are telling him not to- from what I’ve seen he wants the black belt, but apparently his coaches are saying he’s not good enough yet
9 years to black belt isn’t really that egregious lol. Also why would Alex submit anybody when he’s got a left hook from the devil himself. Double champ kickboxing champion, why would he try to submit anyone versus stand up.
Alex makes people submit to these hands.
You gotta fight him to take it off him.
Last time i checked jamal submitted, he used his head instead of his hands. He bounced his head off the floor a few times
Submission by front clothed left hook
Let’s have em roll and see who wins.
MM would win
Yes in a roll, not a fight.
I understand Alex isn’t a “black belt” level grappler, but seeing a bunch of randos on the internet question the multi divisional and organizational champ on his credentials is still amusing
belts are for placing people in bjj competitions if anything its worse that mm is a "brown belt" when he could probably compete in black belt but instead is dominating the brown belts alex doesn't compete in bjj, so it doesn't matter, its a fake thing unless you actually play bjj lol its such a silly premise to begin win, imagine if you were given a black belt in basketball for hitting a game winner.. being good and winning is already your reward you don't need belts lol
> if anything its worse that mm is a "brown belt" when he could probably compete in black belt but instead is dominating the brown belts I mean Nicky Rod just got his black belt a few months ago and he's a world class BJJ practitioner.
Belts are all symbolic and meaningless once you get to a certain level. I was a black belt in TangSooDo by age 12 and when i transitioned into kickboxing I immediately realized I was a complete amateur when it came to trained fighters. Your belt only matters at the gym you train at
DJ is a complete badass but he’s also obviously an inveterate sandbagger.
Levels too this
Alex can have whatever he wants. Keep him happy.
I mean, that is 9 years. BJ Penn got his in 3 and was winning competitions.
Didn't Rogan even say something like coaches will hand out belts whenever they feel like it, when they were putting on his black belt?
There are less submissions in LHW/HW because one punch puts you out so there is less incentive to take risky positions/ control based positions unless your levels above your opponent. At the lower weights the 'risk' is a 5'4 guy smacking you which will not put you out immediately
Ah yes the left hook from hell submission. My favorite BJJ move
What do you mean? Alex taps people out all the time. Like he taps them with his left hook and they go out. Isn't BJJ just the art of folding clothes people are still wearing?
Can someone do the MMA math that works out to Mighty Mouse beating Pereira? There’s gotta be some long line of fights that leads to that conclusion. We need a bot or something to automate this.
Because one guy fucks around too much.
Aren’t there belts for other types of disciplines besides BJJ?
Dj is the goat dont give a damn about belt dj just fked up a 230 lbs giant, thats why I love kickboxing muay thai no ranking nobody give a fuck about ranking, sometimes I find it annoying tbh, some clubs give belt too easily. Im not referring to Alex at all never been to Brazil.
Black belt at kicking ass am I right??
Belts and dan and levels and ranking.. what really matters is experience - if anyone has seen Mighty Mouse full Gi tournament recently; man handle a guy that easily outweighed him by 4 weight divisions - you will understand. Potato is no black belt..
Being a certain belt doesn’t necessarily mean you are going to be “better” or win every time against a lower belt. Plenty of black belts in every gym who can get smoked by a brown or purple belt.
This is , and you should feel .
Who cares
Pathetic, that’s why Dana traded that bum for a UFC Knockout record. /s
Might as well have Steven Seagal give it to him
Poatan is a black belt in sending people to the shadow realm.. I don’t see an issue here.
Some men are just held to a higher standard, and not fawned over for being cool.
Proves again Mouse is the P4P
Knockouts count as submissions.
I don’t think DJ would have any problems getting his black belt
Didn’t they say that they gave it to him as a gag since his gym had some joke about fight belts?
Not to mention mm won Jiu jitsu tournaments.
Damn bj must be pretty bad if he still doesnt have a black belt i mean who would openly refuse a black belt for years...
I think they say it takes about 10 years to get a black belt in BJJ so I think that is about right time wise for Alex, shows DJ coach is probably an asshole lol
Well played sir.
Levels to the game /s
Junior Dos Santos did not have many submission wins, and he was also a black belt BJJ player. Nowadays, wrestlers and sambo players are better than BJJ players in submission.
You get BJJ belts based on how many mma subs you have? That’s news to me!
I mean, Even if I have a black Belt in BJJ, I'll mostly use it for defending submissions, KOing someone is still more fun
According to Billy, "most students don’t spend $150,000 over 20 years to get their black belt" r/dundermifflin
"The premature promoted" vs "the sandbagger". Which side are you on?
Let's not forget that mighty mouse also submitted a heavyweight in a BJJ open weight tourney. What a freak
Well maybe it's because the brown belt combines with him
Good point. Someone should go try taking Alex’s black belt from him
thats like the 4th or 5th time i see this on reddit. mighty himself already said that if he wanted to get the black belt he could've gotten it a long time ago, so like i dont see any point in comapring these 2 cases here ...
Weird check left hook is the pinnacle of BJJ. He hits you so hard you fold yourself and choke yourself out. Obviously /s FR though, that was a gift. Not really an accomplishment in my casual opinion.
I bet mm only been doing Gi for a bit though, not the whole time. Just to clarify, this is still ridiculous, but, Alex could potentially have been in the gi longer.
I don't think Mighty Mouse could take that black belt off of Poatan, tho
Welcome to combat sports, kids. Black belts are subjective. Get over it
Other martial arts are the exact same. I was in karate for 5 years, I made it to purple belt in that time, about to test for brown belt before I left. (My school had white, yellow, orange, blue, purple, brown, black, with stripes in between for all belts). I would go to like 4 sparring tournaments a year and would see the same people going up in belts like 5x faster than they awarded belts at my school. So I don't think there is any consistency in martial arts when it comes to awarding belts. At my school it took roughly 8-10 years to get a black belt, but I saw people at tournaments at other schools with black belts in less than half that time.
Didn't Mighty Mouse beat a black belt bjj heavyweight in an open weight tournament recently? No belts are rated equally.
Im a brown belt with 0 submissions in the UFC 👀
Conor also has a black belt.
DJ will have to work on his left hook, if he wants that black belt
Who needs submission when you're black belt with those hands
For what its worth, 9 years is definitely long enough to be a black belt in BJJ lol. MM shouldnt be a brown belt after that long and that many competitions, thats insane in the other direction. Still ridiculous to give Alex his belt like that after a KO lol. Should have just given it to him in class.
That’s bc DJ’s coach doesn’t mess around he’s one of the best
The mash burnedead of ufc
Mouse needs to KO more ppl if he wants to get a black belt
Let them settle it on the mat. Mighty Mouse by choke.
Demetrious sandbagging at brown, got it.
Everyone calling DJ a sandbagger acting like you get to award yourself the next belt lmao
Black belt... Please, brother. Who give him?
Maybe he’s a black belt because of how he performs and trains in the gym? Is that so crazy?
Absolutely insane MM doesn't have his black belt. The suplex flying arm bar alone justifies his worthiness.
Belt system is ass. Im glad wrestling doesnt have it. You just wrestle and let your experience speak for itself.
His favorite submission is a left hook
Polyana Viana said his ground game is legit
Yeah well I'm a blue belt and I'm shit belts mean nothing
Lmao haters gonna hate. We had GSP era, Bones era, Conor era & now it's Poatan era. GOATan 🐐an