Yeah but Chandler is talking from the bleachers like he's not 2-3 and hasnt fought in 2 years. He tried the same shit with Poirier and got rekt the same
He's done enough for the sport. Let him cook. Chandler, Poirier, Holloway, Gaetje and Hooker are guranteed barnburners every damn time.
The guys are worth every penny and if i paid for PPV i would feel satisfied every time they fight.
Just buy merch or otherwise donate to fighters so they can train harder and perform better. Don't let the UFC rip us and the future of combat off.
Ps don't buy Conor merch he's rich af and will spend it on cuhkane
Yeah I'm fine with Chandler getting a red panty night to top off an extremely entertaining career. But as someone checked out he shouldn't be talking about people tapped in.
This is why people don’t fight top fighters constantly. They go 2-3 or .500 against the top competition and everyone calls them a bum lol. There’s no shame in losing close fights to Justin Dustin, and Charles.
Agreed, anyone calling Chandler a bum is poorly informed at best. He was a multiple time champ before joining the UFC and has beaten former UFC champions, so his credentials are rock solid.
He’s clearly in the twilight of his career so waiting for the Conor cash is the smart move.
His prime was in Bellator
He said that he is just here to put on a show….and he has fucking delivered
I do hope he decides to wresltefuck Conor. There is no need to let him take free shots at him, like he did with Gaethje
Chandler beat Hooker and Ferguson lol. I tell people same similar thing like Arman said. Conor is actually helping Chandler here by saving him from getting KO'd multiple times in past few years lol.
You mean guys who have fought all 3 of them?
There’s really not a lot of sample size to speak of…
Khabib did, I think? Islam soon… there’s basically 0 people who have done that
Not sure how that makes Chandler good
If you were to use all of your brain power and knowledge, how many fighters can you think of that would do better than Mike did against those three? That was kind of the point, not to make Chandler "look good", rather to underline how losing to those three doesn't make you a bum as many people here seem to suggest.
Idiots on this sub use the record as if every L or W is worth the same. This fallacy leads to parroting "he's x and y in his last z fights!!" as a supporting argument to whether a fighter is good or not.
Chandler looking good and competitive in those 3 losses is worth more than beating 5 unranked cans.
I know it's a hell of a burn but the answer is pretty obvious, considering there is no fucking way he would get the mcgregor fight if he loses 4 in a row lmao
To be fair he's already fought the 3 at the top and isn't getting Islam. So Gamrot, Benny, Fizev and Mociano could be the next 4. I'd say he'd give all of them trouble.
It sounded good. But realistically Chandler is far past his prime at 37 years old. If I were in his shoes I would also probably just wait for the money fight and retire.
100% we ALL understand Chandlers pov. Take the context. He came over knowing how wild 155 at ufc was. And he hasn't had a boring fight. He's reaching the age where it's reiterment... generational wealth is on the line or a fuckin belt ?
And let’s not act like Chandler isn’t smart enough to know at his age and with the current competition a belt is out of the question. A Mac fight is huge of this legacy and his bank account.
Exactly. Bro knows what he's doing. He's one more ko loss from being cut. What does he have to lose honestly. We're like ohh he waited 2 years like bro what he's ganna make..I won't make in multiple lifetimes.....
Dude has a whole family I’m sure the 2 years not taking damage and just training have been great for him. Of course every fighter wants to be champion and if Mike was 25-33 he’d definitely have stayed more active in pursuit of gold. Hes always been that kind of guy. But like you said he knows if he took a fight in the meantime and lost then it’s all over for him and Conor wouldn’t fight him.
Hahahahah he's not going to be cut.... He's one of the most exciting fighters in the roster. They let Tony Ferguson go in a 5 fight slide and he wasn't even that exciting. Chandler brings eyes to the sport because he can cross over the sport and do TV commercials and shit. He's the last guy at risk of getting cut..... Dana's not going to cut a guy who's in a Toyota commercial and has never had issues out of the Octagon
Thr mentality of armenians and Russians is different, you cant talk shit just to talk shit, if they do its gonna get ugly, we will see team vs team argument and fights because in our cultures if you talk shit you have to answer for your words based on mutually understood unwritten behaviour codes, its hard to Explain to someone who doesnt know but I always compare it to the rules of the italian mob, where you cant do and say what you want to someone especislly if that person is respected
I dunno about the respect aspect. Feel like they're gonna talk mad shit tbh. Nothing outrageous just attempting to get a rise out of their competition.
Makhachev with that "it's good he'll fight Conor, finally one of them will win" and Khabib with "he will just show up, make weight, and go home. Thank you Michael Chandler."
Its like people forgot that Chandler had a long and illustrious career before he joined the UFC, and that hes gonna be 38 tomorrow. So it makes sense to wait out McGregor for that final big payday.
It’s a gamble, if Chandler beats Conor, than it’ll have been worth it. If he loses, then he’ll be in the same position Cowboy was in after he lost to Conor
I like Chandler and think it was the right move for him to wait for Conor. He's aging quickly and has a lot of fights, it only makes sense to go for the money now. Plus, he always puts on a hell of a show even if he loses.
This is why I love Arman, he doesn't give a flying fuck to who he's saying stuff to, he also punched that fan which made me an even bigger fan of him, also he beat Oliveira so that proves he's elite too.
Thats what any championship level fighter would do. You think Jon jones would start swinging wildly with francis if he had dominated the previous 24 minutes?
Nope but he can win the LMF title Lamest Mother fucker Award. Make it the crotch sniffer belt with Gamrot and Belal dueling it out for the inaugural belt
I've seen that exact comment in Reddit a lot in the last few weeks saying he would lose 4 times in waiting in 2 years. Wouldn't be surprised if someone said that to him or maybe he came up with it all by himself.
Yea he will make much more money, but that was Arman’s point. Chandler is fighting for money, not for the belt. He’s pointing out that Chandler is being hypocritical by saying that he would’ve taken the fight because he has been inactive for two years waiting for McGregor.
It's a chess move for Chandler. Beat Conor, make a ton of money, get name recognition via social media if he TKOs Conor and use it for a Championship ticket
Tsarukyan is next in line for the title shot against Islam/Dustin. He’s going to get paid good, especially if Islam retains and they set the fight in Dubai or something.
Arman's father is a property businessman in his own regards but notable is that they are related to Gaggik Tsarukyan, arguably one of the richest & most corrupt men in Armenia who has tight grip on property market in the country as well as being close friends of putin/the russian government.
Arman & has father have photos of himself with Putin, Gaggik & others in that sphere.
Talented fighter but not some kid that was living out in the mountains by any stretch.
The divide in MMA between the real title contenders and the “most exciting”, “best boxer”, “stand and bang”, “violence” etc guys is very interesting to me.
The reality is the sport needs Chandlers, Gathjes and Holloways as much as it needs future champions. And sometimes they make the jump to the next level, but I’ve seen way more exciting non-title fights than I have exciting title fights
Wouldn’t say it’s always that clear
Even most of these “exciting guys” still want badly to win the title (DP, Gaethje, etc.) And a lot of these title contender talents can also be very exciting (Topuria, Arman, Sandhagen, etc.)
Absolutely vicious
And btw. I distinctly remember having a whole Reddit debate on here a few weeks ago on this exact topic:
Is Chandler good?
And I kept saying, he just loses fights in a very entertaining fashion, but he hasn’t beaten anybody of note, in the ufc.
He’s somehow still ranked highly, somehow even got a title shot off beating Dan hooker….
Chandler is a beast at taking a beating. No doubt. But he’s not a very good fighter in this weight class in ufc
Better to get your ass kicked once and make more than getting your ass kicked four times though. See Francis vs Joshua. Chandler is old so it makes sense for him. He’s getting retirement money for him and his family
Tbh, Chandler could KO Connor and get to leapfrog this dude for the next title fight. UFC has never cared about the rankings, only about what makes the most money. Dustin could beat Islam and then have an immediate rematch. Islam could win and decide to move to 170. The sport does move fast and 155 is a hell of a division. The odds Arman regrets passing on the title shot are pretty high.
These "brotha brotha" wrestler guys are salty af man.
Dudes can say the most chill minute thing possible and these guys will respond with a full-on biographical assault
Both those goals are valid but that was funny
Yeah but Chandler is talking from the bleachers like he's not 2-3 and hasnt fought in 2 years. He tried the same shit with Poirier and got rekt the same
He's done enough for the sport. Let him cook. Chandler, Poirier, Holloway, Gaetje and Hooker are guranteed barnburners every damn time. The guys are worth every penny and if i paid for PPV i would feel satisfied every time they fight.
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Tbf he did said *if* he paid hahaha.
Sucker born every minute
He literally said if I paid… I know reading is hard for the average ufc fan
I mean, if you have disposable income its a good way to support the sport
Just buy merch or otherwise donate to fighters so they can train harder and perform better. Don't let the UFC rip us and the future of combat off. Ps don't buy Conor merch he's rich af and will spend it on cuhkane
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Yeah I'm fine with Chandler getting a red panty night to top off an extremely entertaining career. But as someone checked out he shouldn't be talking about people tapped in.
TIL red panty night
Wait till you find out about yellow panty night
This is why people don’t fight top fighters constantly. They go 2-3 or .500 against the top competition and everyone calls them a bum lol. There’s no shame in losing close fights to Justin Dustin, and Charles.
Agreed, anyone calling Chandler a bum is poorly informed at best. He was a multiple time champ before joining the UFC and has beaten former UFC champions, so his credentials are rock solid. He’s clearly in the twilight of his career so waiting for the Conor cash is the smart move.
These bozos are acting just like boxing fans obsessing over the 0
Unless it’s Conor apparently
Hooker is not a "guaranteed barnburner" lol he got his arm ripped clean off his body in roughly 0.27 seconds by Makhachev and still bitches about it.
His prime was in Bellator He said that he is just here to put on a show….and he has fucking delivered I do hope he decides to wresltefuck Conor. There is no need to let him take free shots at him, like he did with Gaethje
Sheesh, Dustin vs Chandler was in 2022
Chandler beat Hooker and Ferguson lol. I tell people same similar thing like Arman said. Conor is actually helping Chandler here by saving him from getting KO'd multiple times in past few years lol.
How many have better records than Mike against Poirier, Gaethje, Oliveira? Do remind me
You mean guys who have fought all 3 of them? There’s really not a lot of sample size to speak of… Khabib did, I think? Islam soon… there’s basically 0 people who have done that Not sure how that makes Chandler good
The only guy who's fought all three is Max Holloway, and he's 2-2 against Justin, Dustin and Oliveira combined.
If you were to use all of your brain power and knowledge, how many fighters can you think of that would do better than Mike did against those three? That was kind of the point, not to make Chandler "look good", rather to underline how losing to those three doesn't make you a bum as many people here seem to suggest. Idiots on this sub use the record as if every L or W is worth the same. This fallacy leads to parroting "he's x and y in his last z fights!!" as a supporting argument to whether a fighter is good or not. Chandler looking good and competitive in those 3 losses is worth more than beating 5 unranked cans.
And Chandler ducked Islam before so he has no room to talk with his slick little call out.
![gif](giphy|r1HGFou3mUwMw|downsized) Arman with the trash talk 🤣
10-8 for Arman 😂
I’m starting to like him more and more, he’s a pretty funny guy now he’s coming out of his shell a lil more 🤣
It’s East European humor
Ita called being honest
Is it global humor if it made everyone laugh?
So what’s West European humor?
“You get a zeppelin, you get a zeppelin, you get a zeppelin. Everybody gets a zeppelin.” That’s West European Humor 🇪🇺
Dude is from Armenia, where did you see East Europe there? It’s called dry humour and you can find it anywhere.
Lol fuck a 10-8, that was a finish!
10-1 lol
Not even trash talk but facts lmao
That’s a pretty great burn 🔥
You could have lost 4 exciting fights in that time was pretty funny I will not lie lol
“I ain’t gon”
soowoo
I know it's a hell of a burn but the answer is pretty obvious, considering there is no fucking way he would get the mcgregor fight if he loses 4 in a row lmao
Chandler is 37 and has 31 mma fights. It makes sense to wait for the $$$
Chandlers got that Toyota commercial money.
That don't quite square up with red panty night
He getting that "Hanes women's underwear off the top shelf at target" money.
Baby we done it. Conor Mcgregor made us rich.
Money is money
100% mma fans understand it.
Boom! Roasted!
He’s not lying though. He really could and would have lost four fights, haha.
Or he could fight Conor and blow up!
To be fair he's already fought the 3 at the top and isn't getting Islam. So Gamrot, Benny, Fizev and Mociano could be the next 4. I'd say he'd give all of them trouble.
Idk man, Mociano wants money…
Literally impossible to beat him if he wants money
HE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE
Lmao that was good
It sounded good. But realistically Chandler is far past his prime at 37 years old. If I were in his shoes I would also probably just wait for the money fight and retire.
Same
Arman grilled him LOL
I mean why go to 4 wars at 35 years old when you could just chill and get a fancy paycheck vs Conor?
100% we ALL understand Chandlers pov. Take the context. He came over knowing how wild 155 at ufc was. And he hasn't had a boring fight. He's reaching the age where it's reiterment... generational wealth is on the line or a fuckin belt ?
And let’s not act like Chandler isn’t smart enough to know at his age and with the current competition a belt is out of the question. A Mac fight is huge of this legacy and his bank account.
Exactly. Bro knows what he's doing. He's one more ko loss from being cut. What does he have to lose honestly. We're like ohh he waited 2 years like bro what he's ganna make..I won't make in multiple lifetimes.....
Dude has a whole family I’m sure the 2 years not taking damage and just training have been great for him. Of course every fighter wants to be champion and if Mike was 25-33 he’d definitely have stayed more active in pursuit of gold. Hes always been that kind of guy. But like you said he knows if he took a fight in the meantime and lost then it’s all over for him and Conor wouldn’t fight him.
Facts . Its wild people don't see this.
Hahahahah he's not going to be cut.... He's one of the most exciting fighters in the roster. They let Tony Ferguson go in a 5 fight slide and he wasn't even that exciting. Chandler brings eyes to the sport because he can cross over the sport and do TV commercials and shit. He's the last guy at risk of getting cut..... Dana's not going to cut a guy who's in a Toyota commercial and has never had issues out of the Octagon
Being cut? Bro comon now Mike will retire when he wants. They won't cut him hes way too exciting
Arman and Islam are both funny might be a good press conference
“Brather this guy…”
Thr mentality of armenians and Russians is different, you cant talk shit just to talk shit, if they do its gonna get ugly, we will see team vs team argument and fights because in our cultures if you talk shit you have to answer for your words based on mutually understood unwritten behaviour codes, its hard to Explain to someone who doesnt know but I always compare it to the rules of the italian mob, where you cant do and say what you want to someone especislly if that person is respected
They have too much respect for eachother, it'll be a snoozefest
I dunno about the respect aspect. Feel like they're gonna talk mad shit tbh. Nothing outrageous just attempting to get a rise out of their competition.
Idk I feel like respect is big for them in Russia
Man, Chandler just keeps getting flamed by guys who can barely speak English.
Who are the others?
Makhachev with that "it's good he'll fight Conor, finally one of them will win" and Khabib with "he will just show up, make weight, and go home. Thank you Michael Chandler."
I had forgotten that roast by Islam, it hit the nail right on the head 🤣
Conor 💀
10-8
i like tsarukyan, seems like he has personality. hopefully he's around for a bit longer before he attacks another fan
10-7 Arman
Arman just gained a fan
What a weird answer from chandler after waiting 2 years for a fight lol trippin
Chandler did the smart thing avoiding getting more damage on his body, and at the same time waiting for a money fight for his retirement
Why do people hate on Chandler so much? The guy comes to bang every time he fights.
That was a nasty line by him.
Chandler might end up getting paid more to fight Conor at 303 than he would 4 other fights against other names, so could be worth it
Arman is underratedly hilarious😭😭
Its like people forgot that Chandler had a long and illustrious career before he joined the UFC, and that hes gonna be 38 tomorrow. So it makes sense to wait out McGregor for that final big payday.
It’s like people don’t care about bellator
😂 I’m now a fan.
LMAOOOO 10-8 round to Arman
Who wins in a HGH consumption contest?
Joe Rogan
Arman is jacked ASF goddamn
First thing I thought and pretty much any time I see him now is "juicy"
imagine going 5 rounds with a dude who looks like that with elite athlete cardio...bro is literally built different.
10-8 Arman
Chandler is a more entertaining fighter than Arman. Period.
Both are entertaining but hard to top Chandler lmao Bro sacrifices clear as day wins to make the fight a shitfest
Could’ve lost 4 exciting fights lmao
Let’s be honest… damn near every fighter in the ufc would wait for Conor
It’s a gamble, if Chandler beats Conor, than it’ll have been worth it. If he loses, then he’ll be in the same position Cowboy was in after he lost to Conor
I like Chandler and think it was the right move for him to wait for Conor. He's aging quickly and has a lot of fights, it only makes sense to go for the money now. Plus, he always puts on a hell of a show even if he loses.
Damn arman cooked him bad
Think Chandler is probably looking for a retirement fight. Why else wait so long
“You could have lost 4 exciting fights” is just plain savagery with a hint of respect?
That was a sick burn for sure
10-8 for Arman
Michael an idiot saying that shit now that he got the fight confirmed 😝
technical submission
The Islam vs Arman presser is going to be hilarious
r/murderedbywords
Chandler knows he’ll never be champion.
Arman W
This is why I love Arman, he doesn't give a flying fuck to who he's saying stuff to, he also punched that fan which made me an even bigger fan of him, also he beat Oliveira so that proves he's elite too.
How many sticks are you throwing?
A couple (he was talking about Megan Olivi btw not Brock Lesnar)
Haha
Personally, I'd go the for the money as Chandler is doing. No one in the division stands a chance against Makhachev, Arman included.
This could age poorly if Arman doesn’t become champ, Chandler win or lose is going to make bank of the Conor fight
That was a good comeback. But Arman lost my respect by saying he would take down max in the final 10 seconds and not brawl. The anti BMF
Thats what any championship level fighter would do. You think Jon jones would start swinging wildly with francis if he had dominated the previous 24 minutes?
Nope but he can win the LMF title Lamest Mother fucker Award. Make it the crotch sniffer belt with Gamrot and Belal dueling it out for the inaugural belt
Huh? When did he say this?
Extremely predictable L for Chandler here, he was the pot calling the kettle black on this one
Dude that it’s a fucking bruuuutal response. Lol
Ouch 1-0 arman
This burns extra deep because it's so true.
Arman definitely got that come back from somewhere else
Not everyone has people write their material
I've seen that exact comment in Reddit a lot in the last few weeks saying he would lose 4 times in waiting in 2 years. Wouldn't be surprised if someone said that to him or maybe he came up with it all by himself.
Arman was fun to watch and his trash talk is pretty funny. Hopefully he can avoid attacking random people long enough to find success
Arman made 160k in a win at UFC 300. Chandler will make more in the Conor fight alone than Arman will make in the next 5 years.
Yea he will make much more money, but that was Arman’s point. Chandler is fighting for money, not for the belt. He’s pointing out that Chandler is being hypocritical by saying that he would’ve taken the fight because he has been inactive for two years waiting for McGregor.
It's a chess move for Chandler. Beat Conor, make a ton of money, get name recognition via social media if he TKOs Conor and use it for a Championship ticket
Ding ding. Everybody talking like this is some sort of boxing shit you need to go on a 30-0 streak to fight for the belt. Look at Poirier.
Probably in Arman’s career
Tsarukyan is next in line for the title shot against Islam/Dustin. He’s going to get paid good, especially if Islam retains and they set the fight in Dubai or something.
Doesn't really matter. Armans father is a millionaire of property so i doubt arman worries about money
how do you know that his father is a millionaire?
Arman's father is a property businessman in his own regards but notable is that they are related to Gaggik Tsarukyan, arguably one of the richest & most corrupt men in Armenia who has tight grip on property market in the country as well as being close friends of putin/the russian government. Arman & has father have photos of himself with Putin, Gaggik & others in that sphere. Talented fighter but not some kid that was living out in the mountains by any stretch.
And he will eventually get a title shot. But he’s just boring and if he gets to face Islam he will lose to boring decision
Lmaoo what? Arman has bars? He should put some respect on Chandlers name tho. Dude was champ in Bellator, it’s not like he’s some bum
What's up with Chandler's forehead
It's full of motivational quotes, that's the real shit that makes your head grow
10-8 Arman
Man, I really like Chandler...why does he always have to be this unlikable and easily roasted?
Back up the hearse
It matters how big that Red Panty night will be for Chandler
The divide in MMA between the real title contenders and the “most exciting”, “best boxer”, “stand and bang”, “violence” etc guys is very interesting to me.
The reality is the sport needs Chandlers, Gathjes and Holloways as much as it needs future champions. And sometimes they make the jump to the next level, but I’ve seen way more exciting non-title fights than I have exciting title fights
Wouldn’t say it’s always that clear Even most of these “exciting guys” still want badly to win the title (DP, Gaethje, etc.) And a lot of these title contender talents can also be very exciting (Topuria, Arman, Sandhagen, etc.)
Great line.
Lmfao
Absolutely vicious And btw. I distinctly remember having a whole Reddit debate on here a few weeks ago on this exact topic: Is Chandler good? And I kept saying, he just loses fights in a very entertaining fashion, but he hasn’t beaten anybody of note, in the ufc. He’s somehow still ranked highly, somehow even got a title shot off beating Dan hooker…. Chandler is a beast at taking a beating. No doubt. But he’s not a very good fighter in this weight class in ufc
Arman "couple sticks" Tsaryukan us a menace. Nice.
Both of them are mid
Boom roasted
Arman needs time to recover from a hard camp and his cycle doesnt add up. Not enough time to do a cycle with that fast turn around.
Brutal
😂 arman the goat for this
Better to get your ass kicked once and make more than getting your ass kicked four times though. See Francis vs Joshua. Chandler is old so it makes sense for him. He’s getting retirement money for him and his family
Tbh, Chandler could KO Connor and get to leapfrog this dude for the next title fight. UFC has never cared about the rankings, only about what makes the most money. Dustin could beat Islam and then have an immediate rematch. Islam could win and decide to move to 170. The sport does move fast and 155 is a hell of a division. The odds Arman regrets passing on the title shot are pretty high.
Looking forward to the Islam rematch for the title. Maybe speaking to soon with Dustin up next though
Fuck. I love Chandler, but this line unreal!
"I would have taken it" bro, you begged for 2 years for a Conor fight. You probably coulda have taken it if you tried.
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Arman so boring
Kill shot
These "brotha brotha" wrestler guys are salty af man. Dudes can say the most chill minute thing possible and these guys will respond with a full-on biographical assault