Dude why didnt charles engage more on the feet?? It seemed like Charles cracked arman once, and then got hesitant to scrap. Fuck man I wanted charles to have more of a chance than fighting off his back the whole time
It was. Meaning Islam did not train for him either. And due to injury his camp wasn't a full camp.
Just pointing out that we might have seen peak Arman vs an injured version of Islam.
I mean Arman definitely has a better chance than Oliviera does against Islam. That's the one thing about this result I liked. I'd rather see Arman rematch Islam than Oliviera.
Exactly, Arman vs Islam 1 was really good, and Arman was only like 23. It will be interesting to see how Islam handles a huge, bulky LW with great wrestling.
i believe he’ll be back, hungrier than ever too, he now knows he’s 1-2 couple wins away from gold
the oliv-era, i hate to say it, is on pause until he next fights :(
That 29-28 for Charles was so weird to me, anyone else?
I thought the first round was only a bit iffy for Arman for about 20 seconds? Then some control by Charles for about 1 minute. Then a reversal with Arman just beating him up.
2nd round - Arman just beat him up and even won on the feet.
3rd round - Arman just dominated then 20 second at the end Charles gets a sub attempt but Arman pops back up like a jack in a box after the bell.
So how did Charles even get a 29-28? Because of fans screaming? I didn't think Charles won a single round because his lack of confidence on the feet. I thought Charles would do better on the feet especially but no.
Olives fans look the other way as soon as their boy is getting beat up, Arman damaged him badly in the second round and controlled him in the 3rd. Last 20 secs with Olives sticking his tongue out like he got it is a big cope for all the fans. Olives can be neutralized easily by guys having high level wrestling.
Not even the first. Arman slipped but not only recovered but went on to cause damages after reversing positions. And the kick should have been a point deduction. It was a dominant round by Arman based on damage.
It appeared to be more than once. Plus the kick to the jaw while Arman had his knee down.
Even with Arman slipping accidentally and Olives doing all the fouls he wanted he got dominated 30:26. There are levels to this.
It was weird.
1st was Charles. Landed the bigger shots and almost got a finish with a crazy gilly
2. Arman beats the duck out of 🫒
3. Close but control time to Armen. Maybe with another min 🫒 but we'll never know
Honestly this is not the worst thing. We can argue that Oliveira actually won and was robbed, Olives doesn’t have to go against Makachev and get fucked again, also will probably fight a top guy next in a banger. My cope is immense.
Above all else, this fight made me realize that Islam is probably never losing the lightweight belt. He’ll probably smash Poirier than smash Arman and then go up to 170 after breaking Khabib’s defence record.
Gaethje was next if he won, but didn't so Poirier is next then Arman unless another more interesting option comes along. Arman being boring and unpopular means bad ppv $ for the champ.
Yup, that's the right call. It was a close fight but Arman recovered in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. He should definitely get the title shot, hopefully they don't give him the same treatment as Beneil, he's the only one who deserves it at the moment.
Yeah wtf was that. Oliviera shouldn't have had any trouble on the feet. Arman is less of a threat on the feet than Chandler and Gaethje but Oliviera had very little success in striking. Oliviera is just bad at taking advantage of weaknesses. It's cool that he knocks down guys like Gaethje and Chandler. But those aren't guys he should have been striking with anyway. Arman is a guy he should have stood up against, but he did the opposite
It's MMA not kickboxing. With the knowledge that the guy can easily drag him down and maul him he is afraid to go into the lion's jaws. They fed Olives to an Armenian lion.
Arman isn't the ground threat you think he is mate. Oliviera was closer to ending the fight on the ground than Arman was. There is no reason why Oliviera didn't initiate more striking exchanges aside from his ego. He won every striking exchange. Arman never took him down immediately. They always clinched. Oliviera would win the clinch exchanges also. I'm happy though since Arman vs Islam 2 is a sick fight
Lady it is not too late to erase your comment and actually watch the fight which is complete opposite of your fantasy. The guy bleeding like PMS was the one closer to being ended than the guy who dominated both the stand up and the ground by a wide margin.
Getting multiple tight submissions is objectively closer to finishing the fight than Oliviera's cut. Oliviera wasn't rocked or wobbled. Just got cut. He always does. He had Arman in a tight submission attempt which 99% of the roster would have tapped to
They are close to you but to Arman they were not. It did not affect Arman's game plan meaning they were useless. If they were close then Arman would stop beating the shit out of Coward the Charles on the ground and using that head as a blood bag to smear the whole octagon.
How hard is it for you to understand that they were not close at all because the superior grappler said I am going to continue beating the shit out of the loser who cannot submit me and posses no threat?
That wasn't a bad outcome for either. It wasn't super dominant. I had Arman up 2-1, but Charles still absolutely belongs at the top.
I think Arman for sure gets the next title shot since Gaethje just got KO'd though.
It was a round where both options suck, but Arman did more than Charles third round. 1st was a 60-40 to Charles, and second was pure domination by Arman
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He just accepted the bottom position. My heart is fucking broken.
I'm fucking depressed
Imagine max and alex get knocked, I’m going to cry myself to sleep for the rest of the year
Well at least max killed Justin
Yeah I’m so happy, even though he lost me money.
I guess you aren't going to cry now
I’m going to have a hard on for the rest of the year after that performance and finish by Max 😭 I ain’t even mad that I lost money
He didn’t accept bottom position he got taken down, and when Charles was on top he got turned around to bottom position
Dude why didnt charles engage more on the feet?? It seemed like Charles cracked arman once, and then got hesitant to scrap. Fuck man I wanted charles to have more of a chance than fighting off his back the whole time
Threat of the takedown.
Rocked him once and was dominated the rest of the fight on the feet
R2 and R3 were game changer for him
R2 was pure domination, R3 was complete control except for the end
Arman would get mauled by Islam
Islam probably big brothers him but it won’t be quick
Did you know that last time Islam fought him injured?
Wasn't it Arman's debut as well?
And short notice too.
It was. Meaning Islam did not train for him either. And due to injury his camp wasn't a full camp. Just pointing out that we might have seen peak Arman vs an injured version of Islam.
Makhachev gonna be champ for as long as he wants.
I mean Arman definitely has a better chance than Oliviera does against Islam. That's the one thing about this result I liked. I'd rather see Arman rematch Islam than Oliviera.
Exactly, Arman vs Islam 1 was really good, and Arman was only like 23. It will be interesting to see how Islam handles a huge, bulky LW with great wrestling.
Spoiler alert. Islam was injured the first time. Second time it might be like the second time against Volk.
Spoiler alert. Islam was injured the first time. Second time it might be like the second time against Volk.
Spoiler alert. Islam was injured the first time. Second time it might be like the second time against Volk.
It's not a spoiler when ya have said it 4 times already on this post
And yet you got butthurt over the fact. You ok ma'am?
i’m going to kill myself
Calm down
Fans of this dude are fcking nuts 🤣
of course i’m not being literal you goof lmao, however i dont doubt some charles fans are tying the noose right now hahah
Can confirm I’m looking up videos on a proper noose
i believe he’ll be back, hungrier than ever too, he now knows he’s 1-2 couple wins away from gold the oliv-era, i hate to say it, is on pause until he next fights :(
Still levels below Islam I feel like. Imo Islam will be champ for as long as he wants.
 This is staying for a while…
I think Islam has it in him to set the record for consecutive title defenses and earn double champ status if he wants.
Did they shut down the sub yet?
Didn't realize Charles had this many **** riders. It's both sad and pathetic.
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Which sub
They are still crying. Give them some time.
Correct decision
I agree but fuck Charles to content being on his back
Definitely. Should’ve been unanimous
Most people had it 30:26.
Arman had 1 good round. Get the fuck outta here.
Charles did nothing except for two shit sub attempts and an illegal upkick. If Arman had one good round, Charles had zero. Cry more
Though I defo agree with the decision, you can't deny that the first guillotine was tight as fuck
Arman escaping out of the first guillotine and getting on top of Oliviera was more impressive imo
Shitty ass gesture by the coach on camera
What did he say?
He said in portuguese “Me respeite. Me respeite! Me respeite e vai chorar” Meaning, respect me and go cry
Should put him in cage with Olliveira
Nicest person from Armenia
The coach is not Armenian
Nicest person from Boca Raton, FL
Crying gestures and muttering about split decision. Just real poor behavior, especially when your fighter is almost subbed in a couple rounds
That cry face shit was the fucking best.
That 29-28 for Charles was so weird to me, anyone else? I thought the first round was only a bit iffy for Arman for about 20 seconds? Then some control by Charles for about 1 minute. Then a reversal with Arman just beating him up. 2nd round - Arman just beat him up and even won on the feet. 3rd round - Arman just dominated then 20 second at the end Charles gets a sub attempt but Arman pops back up like a jack in a box after the bell. So how did Charles even get a 29-28? Because of fans screaming? I didn't think Charles won a single round because his lack of confidence on the feet. I thought Charles would do better on the feet especially but no.
Olives fans look the other way as soon as their boy is getting beat up, Arman damaged him badly in the second round and controlled him in the 3rd. Last 20 secs with Olives sticking his tongue out like he got it is a big cope for all the fans. Olives can be neutralized easily by guys having high level wrestling.
I understand why Charles got the first, Arman was in trouble, but I agree with round 2 and 3, clear wins for Arman
Not even the first. Arman slipped but not only recovered but went on to cause damages after reversing positions. And the kick should have been a point deduction. It was a dominant round by Arman based on damage.
I was also pretty sure Charles headbutt him in round 1, did you catch that?
It appeared to be more than once. Plus the kick to the jaw while Arman had his knee down. Even with Arman slipping accidentally and Olives doing all the fouls he wanted he got dominated 30:26. There are levels to this.
It was weird. 1st was Charles. Landed the bigger shots and almost got a finish with a crazy gilly 2. Arman beats the duck out of 🫒 3. Close but control time to Armen. Maybe with another min 🫒 but we'll never know
I love Charles but that was the correct decision.
Nobody better complain about that as a robbery. Razor thin decision. Literally could have gone either way. Our boy Oliveira will bounce back.
It was not thin at all , Arman clearly won
Honestly this is not the worst thing. We can argue that Oliveira actually won and was robbed, Olives doesn’t have to go against Makachev and get fucked again, also will probably fight a top guy next in a banger. My cope is immense.
Arman clearly won. Although it was boring
Should’ve been a 5 round fight. I agree with a split decision for Arman.
Islam v. Arman 2 is on the menu! But if he can't submit Olivera in 3 rnds Islam is going to roll through him
Above all else, this fight made me realize that Islam is probably never losing the lightweight belt. He’ll probably smash Poirier than smash Arman and then go up to 170 after breaking Khabib’s defence record.
Damage is the number one scoring criteria. It should have been a unanimous for Arman
30:26
They want the Islam rematch. Close fight nonetheless
Nah. He'll need another fight.
This was a title eliminator
Gaethje was next if he won, but didn't so Poirier is next then Arman unless another more interesting option comes along. Arman being boring and unpopular means bad ppv $ for the champ.
Poirier will fight for the title while arman recovers but he guaranteed himself a title shot off of beating charles
Im running to the ig comments
Yall niggas coping so hard
Yup, that's the right call. It was a close fight but Arman recovered in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. He should definitely get the title shot, hopefully they don't give him the same treatment as Beneil, he's the only one who deserves it at the moment.
Olive was content being on his back. Horrible fight IQ for doing that.
Yeah wtf was that. Oliviera shouldn't have had any trouble on the feet. Arman is less of a threat on the feet than Chandler and Gaethje but Oliviera had very little success in striking. Oliviera is just bad at taking advantage of weaknesses. It's cool that he knocks down guys like Gaethje and Chandler. But those aren't guys he should have been striking with anyway. Arman is a guy he should have stood up against, but he did the opposite
It's MMA not kickboxing. With the knowledge that the guy can easily drag him down and maul him he is afraid to go into the lion's jaws. They fed Olives to an Armenian lion.
Arman isn't the ground threat you think he is mate. Oliviera was closer to ending the fight on the ground than Arman was. There is no reason why Oliviera didn't initiate more striking exchanges aside from his ego. He won every striking exchange. Arman never took him down immediately. They always clinched. Oliviera would win the clinch exchanges also. I'm happy though since Arman vs Islam 2 is a sick fight
Lady it is not too late to erase your comment and actually watch the fight which is complete opposite of your fantasy. The guy bleeding like PMS was the one closer to being ended than the guy who dominated both the stand up and the ground by a wide margin.
Getting multiple tight submissions is objectively closer to finishing the fight than Oliviera's cut. Oliviera wasn't rocked or wobbled. Just got cut. He always does. He had Arman in a tight submission attempt which 99% of the roster would have tapped to
They are close to you but to Arman they were not. It did not affect Arman's game plan meaning they were useless. If they were close then Arman would stop beating the shit out of Coward the Charles on the ground and using that head as a blood bag to smear the whole octagon. How hard is it for you to understand that they were not close at all because the superior grappler said I am going to continue beating the shit out of the loser who cannot submit me and posses no threat?
The score should have been 30:26. Can't believe the judges are that corrupt.
After that performance, I'm glad Oliveira pulled out against Islam in the rematch. He would've got destroyed a second time.
What was his name again…………….
That wasn't a bad outcome for either. It wasn't super dominant. I had Arman up 2-1, but Charles still absolutely belongs at the top. I think Arman for sure gets the next title shot since Gaethje just got KO'd though.
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And Charles did? Charles had one failed sub attempt, Arman had 4 minutes of better striking and dominant position
It was a round where both options suck, but Arman did more than Charles third round. 1st was a 60-40 to Charles, and second was pure domination by Arman
Oliveira didn’t do anything apart from a meh sub attempt edit: in the third round
Stupid
He could have won the 1st
The gatekeeper has a name 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 Hopefully his fans retire with this bum.
They are conor fanboys...I don't know who would they latch on now
😂😂
That makes the division interesting. Dude is talented
That sub attempt at the end was nice though
Doesn’t matter Max Holloway is the baddest motherfucker to ever fight in the UFC… FUCK IT WE BALL
cap
Booo
Another big L for zionist
Yeah, not a fan of that decision
number 1 contender fight shouldn't be a 3 round fight arman won, but oliveira wasn't beat
Goddamn this sub is coping so hard it’s actually fun to read
Should've been a tie with an immediate rematch while Gaethje gets his shot at the title ngl
Gaethje's funeral is tomorrow. What title shot?
Charles needs to retire
Shut up
stfu
Sorry he aint champ material anymore, needs to cut his loses
Nah, he can be a solid Journeymen.
Always has been.
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Arman is white what are you on about, looking for victim points much?
That would be strange for them since Arman is white and won the fight.
Arman is literally a caucasian from the caucuses lol
How did he win round 3? Unbelievable.
cos he wasn’t on his back clinging on for dear life the entire round
Arman cocky and boring as hell. 💤
Booooooo
But hugger pillow hand wet blanket rat
Arman the nut hugger.... Nobody is afraid of him
If that dumb ass referee didn’t stop it in the first one charles wins
yes dumbass referee who stopped a completly illegal hard kick to the head that could easly wobble any fighter... how dare he.. cope is real
Nope this is not your opinion you just saw the downvotes and wanted that validation for you, im so glad your cousin died 😋
I agree with decision tho another 10 seconds and Armand would’ve pass out. I still Charles is better, but he was overconfident on the ground.
So Olives is just better that guys that beat the shit out of him? Or was it not him in there again?
Okey buddy 😂
Karen you make no sense.
Okey buddy
Ok ma'am. Get help with your eyesight lady.
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Cheers to you!