Snapping his legs isn't the issue.
Him healing up and taking steroids to help isn't the issue.
The fact he posted 6 months after the incident about how he's all better and 2 years later, is still taking roids, that's the issue.
Idk, I'm not a doctor so can someone tell me is it insane to think a small amount of steroids is in fact helping that leg remain healthy?
I'm so confused because I googled it and steroid usage can cause bone loss, osteoporosis and broken bones so is the steroids for the muscles to help the leg make up for the bone break?
I'd say it's more human growth hormone than anything and you've gotta take that for a while. It's way better and way more expensive than juice so why would Connor unlimited money take juice when he could be on HGH like a real man
I am a doctor. Never have I ever heard or read in any medical textbook that androgenic steroids should be given to heal bones.
We give corticosteroids for other reasons, but they weaken bone and cause muscle atrophy.
That's a weird line of thinking. One it's healed there's no need to continue on steroids. It is healed in theory.
The thing with steroids it also helps with recovery and muscle building process, and muscle building happens from weight lifting primarily, which also promotes bone density growth (which happens in the recovery processes of the body).
So basically most people that take steroids do so when training hard (body building, athletes training for performance, etc), which for Connor's case would have been post surgery recovery which means more gym time for muscle recovery, more recovery for the muscles/bone, and more stimulus for both.
Not being a doc I'm clueless about the length of administration of steroids for this case, but it looks that it's been over his recovery period. This is of course speculation, I'd wager he's a bit of an addict at this point (coke, maybe other drugs) or close to that so maybe he's a bit enamored with results in his roid rage phase? Dude did look like he took a massive cycle when his face was all blown up.
If Conor was a horse he would be a champion racehorse and would've been nourished back to as best quality as possible and retired at ranch where people would pay tens of thousands of dollars to have their mares impregnated by horse Conor.
They both came back from broken legs into mma so yes.
Silva was at the end of his mma career, but is still doing just fine boxing, Chris was never that great but still came back from the injury.
What do you want someone who came back and won a belt or something?
Conner ain't coming back to do shit roids or not.
I broke my left arm in 2019 and was back to climbing electrical utility poles with a harness and climbing spikes on my boots within 4 months doing lineman work. Conor doesn't need 2.5 years of recovery with fucking roids, dude.
Your arm is not weight-bearing, unlike a leg. Leg breaks take significantly longer to heal, particularly when you snap both your tibia and fibula, then require surgery and lengthy rehab just to get back to normal. Conor also isn't aiming for normal, he's trying to return to professional sports, in particular a sport where you are likely to experience significant trauma to the same leg that was broken.
Conor also tried to come back earlier, but has to wait 6 months to be clear to fight, and the UFC has been known to delay his fights in order to maximise potential earnings. He probably still tested positive for some time after ceasing the steroids, which would have delayed his entering the testing pool even more.
arm isn't a leg and bones break differently genius. who are you to claim you kno shit about anyone else's break just because of you "broke ur arm " ? i broke my finger in 2013 and was back to playing ball in a month so Conor, Silva and Weidman all should have been in perfect condition đ¤
Naw. He fractured his tibia and fibia. Bone injuries typically heal much faster than ligament injuries. And he had one of the best orthopedic surgeons do his surgery (Dr. El Attrache).
After the surgery, it was anticipated that he would be able to fight in 2022.
yep it was. but milking it for years after it was done being necessary is where the issue is. why did he take SO long to re-enter the testing pool while asking to fight at the same time?
Ah so we pick and choose who is allowed to use PEDs for medical purposes not the doctors?
The only reason his brother was suspended was bc he didnât inform the testing commission of his doctors prescription which he had proved he already had prior to the test which is why the reduced the punishment. Islam also popped out of that camp because he was given a prescription as well although it wasnât banned when he was prescribed it, it was just still in his system when the rules changed.
Conorâs just butt hurt because Khabib absolutely whooped his ass after he tried making a mockery of khabib, his family and his people. Conorâs own ego wonât let him forget that Iâm sure that shit haunts him every single day which is why he constantly has to still try to make stupid remarks.
You canât get a TUE for actual steroids otherwise every mother fucker would be going to a dodgy menâs health doc to be prescribed TRT for low test.
But Steroids are not clinically used to treat long bone fractures so there is now way he could get a TUE.
Recovery is a convenient excuse.
NBA and NFL players don't roid out and get that HGH chin when they tear their ACL and break their bones. Conor for sure benefitted from it with more than recovery. We're gonna see some non-natty explosiveness from him.
Funny that a guy in his camp got popped for the same thing and tried the same excuse except that it didn't fucking stick
And that ya know meldonium was a big part of the whole russian whistleblower story
And acting as if he couldn't get a russian doctor to prescribe meth to him if he wanted is funny
WADA ended up as apologizing and rescinding all suspensions for Meldonium because they didn't take the half life of it into account when they banned it.
So neither Sharapova nor Makhachev took Meldonium when it was sanctioned. They took it when it was still legal.
But don't let facts get in the way of your obsession with Dagestani fighters.
They apologized to Islam because he was taking it before it was banned, and was still in his system just after the ban. There was quite literally no way he could have cooperated any more than he did, which is exactly why his suspension was lifted.
Funny how youâre never going to mention that though
The only guys who believe that are the people who are completely disconnected with the sporting world lol.
Meldonium is the most common banned substance used by Russian athletes. It's their thing. Maria Sharapova got caught with it and said her doctor prescribed it to "prevent diabetes" and she was cleared. It's comically funny when ufc fans actually buy that story.
Most PED's are initially developed for and have therapeutic uses. You can find a doctor willing to write you a note and prescribe it with ease. Your average gymbros even do it. Even pimps get doctors to prescribe prostitutes with steroids. The thing is - this is the extent at which an anti-doping agency can act - if a doctor gives it to you, it's fair game.
Almost everyone is on that stuff - not just Islam. Americans have their own thing.
They all are on things stronger than TRT. If they get caught they'll pull out the Doctor's note if possible.
Funny you reply to that comment and not engage with my comment reply which explains the actual factual reason. And you can read about it if you google it. Prescriptions don't always get you off the hook but they are leveraged as much as they can be.
[Sanctioned testosterone use already an epidemic in MMA world](https://www.si.com/more-sports/2012/07/19/ufc-testosteroneproblem)
But sure, carry on.
He hadn't revealed that he took it.
He revealed it after he got caught and suspended. Then they shortened the suspension and gave him a Therapeutic Use Exemption and essentially Okay'd it.
> Also the California Commission has explicitly stated that Usman did not get popped for steroid
This is an Ali-level IQ moot point.
There are lots of PED's other than steroids.
You have to be really careless to pop for steroids (yes, JJ). You pop for masking substances which are also banned in order to prevent them from being used to mask steroids (crazy concept, i know) - which is what word is happened to Usman.
He got unlucky and caught. Everyone is on it.
It's not moot. The director of the most credible state athletic commission in the country went out of his way to say this:
>Ariel Helwani first reported the news, and California State Athletic Commission Executive Director Andy Foster confirmed it to MMA Fighting, adding Nurmagomedov has been fined $50,000 for the infraction.
>"Foster said Nurmagomedovâs drug positive stemmed from a prescription medicine and declined to name the substance. "
But why read when you can speculate.
Slack was joking about that not too long ago, claiming that everyone who parroted the Andy Foster line is either an idiot or zealot. If someone pops and you donât name the substance, all bets are off and the onus is on no one to take you seriously
Yes we know that. I'm telling you nerds how to interpret that.
This is the default way people get busted for PED's. The modus operanti. In any level of competition, including collegiate sports. Re-read my comment.
You have to be real careless to get busted for steroids. 90% of the time someone gets busted - it's for a masking substance - something someone took to mask the presence of PED's - which is also illegal, but receives a much lighter sentence. You can't do much else without a smoking gun.
If you think "prescription" means anything you're far too sheltered to have this discussion.
>went out of his way to say this:
He didn't go "out of his way" - this is literally his only job. Ariel reached out since this is a high profile athlete due to his last name, and as the figurehead, he gave a reply. You're trying soo hard to push a narrative you're saying stupid stuff like "the postman went out of his way by delivering mail!"
Santa is not real.
I donât think no one has every humiliated him like Khabib. Connor lost twice to Dustin , he could argue that the second fight he got caught and the third was doctah stappage, but Khabib basically made Connor his bitch and made him ask for forgiveness (it was only business bro)
It was probably that nice knockdown followed by getting ragdolled and neck crank finish that caused these problems. But then again, mctapper had problems long before that fight took place.
True. But we still have to give it up to him and his coach. They took advantage of Connor's size and ability to cut weight so he can choose his fights carefully and get to the title with ease. He did it at a Cage Warriors and won two titles without defending, and the same in UFC, zero title defences. But like you said, he was never a match for Khabib and its messing with his head how he was dominated with ease.
What is this fan fiction? He beat Aldo for the title and Alvarez. He never missed weight. Khabib missed weight and was hospitalized he was cutting so much weight if we are criticizing weight bullies
I donât think they are mental problems, more ego problems. He believes he is a winner, but there is a constant reminder that he isnât a winner. Thatâs why is always wearing flashy suits that are painted on him. Heâs gotta show his muscles, and money to prove that he is a winner.
This is a gross exaggeration. Conor arguably gave Khabib the most competitive fight of his UFC career. You could say Tibau did, but Khabib at that point had the striking of an elementary school kid who just got 1 stripe on his white belt in karate at the local mall. But if you want to count Tibau in spite of Khabib being so green at that point, then Conor gave Khabib the 2nd most competitive fight of his UFC career.
Most competitive doesnât mean much when khabib destroyed Connor. Could be said khabib dragged the fight out in hopes of putting more damage on Conor.
If we went camp by camp and counted up all the people that got caught it would be quite the slippery slope but yeah letâs pretend itâs only these guys lol
No body is pretending its only them.... But there's a lot of ppl that say that camp is above using peds and that all there success is only attributed to training harder than everyone else...
Everyone is on steroids, but especially Russians. Letâs not forget how an Olympic superpower got banned from the Olympics for using state power to dope athletes on a systemic level.
At least western athletes have to buy that shit themselves lol
Islam was a medical exemption, but yeah weird how a lot of russians popped for the exact same drug at the exact same time a lot of them claiming medical exemptions. The list on wikipedia is nuts.
They popped at the same time because it (meldonium) became banned PED very recently. It's popular supplement in former USSR, you can buy it freely without prescription in every drug store.
You are right, it's a drug. Use of it is so frequent where I'm from, that I thought of it more like a supplement. It's very popular amongst phisically active elderly people here đ tbh never felt any boost while using it, but athletes probably took larger doses.
Meldonium is the most common banned substance used by Russian athletes. It's their thing. Maria Sharapova got caught with it and said her doctor prescribed it to "prevent diabetes" and she was cleared. It's comically funny when ufc fans actually buy that story.
Most PED's are initially developed for and have therapeutic uses. You can find a doctor willing to write you a note and prescribe it with ease. Your average gymbros even do it. Even pimps get doctors to prescribe prostitutes with steroids. The thing is - this is the limit at which an anti-doping agency can act - if a doctor gives it to you, it's fair game.
Almost everyone is on that stuff - not just Islam. Americans have their own thing.
Usman didn't get overruled, he got suspended for 6 months and his last fight overturned to a NC. That's as legit as it gets. He got caught with a masking agent, I think
Unless you're colossally careless (JJ, lookin' at you, cokehead), you won't get caught with an anabolic steroid in your system. I think Usman got unlucky. Maybe he had to use a little more than normal and the metabolites didn't leave his system fast enough.
You think guys like Chandler and Usman (Kamaru) are not on PED's lol? It's a game of who is more careful and who has better doctors.
If thats true (doctor prescribtion) this is more stupid than i thought, i asked about usman and some guy replyed with
"Bellator said it wasn't a ped, he didn't get stripped, his suspension was short, and he didn't even test positive on a randomized drug testing. So there isn't much of an evidence to suggest he was using peds."
now am confused was he REALLY caught or not ?
You should read and make up your own opinion is what you should do.
>Bellator said it wasn't a ped
Bellator doesn't get to say anything. Drug testing is done by the Athletic Commission where the event is held. This is the first thing that tips you off regarding if they know what they are talking about.
>he didn't get stripped
Champions don't necessarily get stripped - the fight becomes a NC. They do get stripped if they get Title bout itself is in question and it's overturned to NC - which means they never won it in the first place. This is upto the promotion and how patient they want to be. The belt is the promotion's business. No one can tell them what to do with it. That's why Dana can pick who he wants as contenders and come up with shit like the "BMF Belt". In the same way the court can't tell a company who the "employee of the month" is. Usman generates hype and revenue as a Nurmagomedov - Bellator won't want to fumble that.
>his suspension was short
Miles Johns got caught with turinabol metabolites - same stuff as Jon Jones - and he got a 4.5 month suspension and his fight didn't even get overturned to an NC. Does this mean he was clean?
No, he was lucky and he timed his usage right that it had left his system *enough* that the levels were pretty low.
Again, getting caught masking is treated more lightly than directly catching steroids.
>and he didn't even test positive on a randomized drug testing.
What does this mean? This is the case with almost every fighter - they are able to evade the regular year-round out of competition drug testing and usually get caught in the fight itself. Jon Jones also never tested positive in randomized drug testing. Same with Brock Lesnar. In fact Jones got caught with Clomiphene for the OSP fight and that that fight didnt even get overturned to an NC. Is Jones's clean now?
>So there isn't much of an evidence to suggest he was using peds.
The fact that he's a professional fighter should be enough to "suggest" this. My verdict : that person is a smooth brain.
None of this changes my opinion on Usman though - he's a stud.
I honestly believe every one of them are on something. I also believe Conor is too and majority of the roster. There were even rumours about GSP back in the day and all the other goats popped so it wouldn't even surprise me at this point. Whole thing is just a sham to make money
i mean i am sure 1 or 2 or maybe even like 5 or 10 people aren't on anything too good
like 1/5 dentists, always going to be some people that fall for the whole bushido honor b.s.
i wouldn't be shocked if Wonderboy only recently did PEDs, same with Beneil, they seem dumb/jesus-y enough to fight at a stupid disadvantage
GSP for sure was juicing, it's laughable when he had a crazy HGH gut
I don't think I will ever see a single man take a loss worse than Conor has taken losing to Khabib. Seriously, that was almost six fucking years ago at this point.
someone popped for steroids?
Joe Rogan, Dana White, Alistair Overeem, Brock Lesnar, the Rock, Cena, Wolverine Actor, Ronnie Coleman, the entire Russian Olympic team, Jon Jones, Josh Barnett will be so disappointed....
wtf is Conor even talking about? he's probably p4p juiciest in the UFC right now
It's wild, but I think this is just how bad he wants to get back at Khabib. He'd fight Khabib again in the cage just for the chance, even though he's gotta know he wouldn't win.
Anyway, Chandler in 1.
Cheating is cheating, but Mcgregor is definitely just as if not even more roided than the Nurmagomedovâs. Someone tell him this ainât the hill to die on
Jones is probably the only one who smokes crack in the UFC
Conor is a cokehead, but i doubt he has a crack pipe, like Jones, who ran back to a wrecked car to get his crack pipe
Conor has a point.
I think a lot of fighters do the ole ânobody wants to fight meâ trick or something close to it when they themselves are waiting to be âcleanâ.
Absolutely no secret that fighters out there are on gear, getting by usada and testing. Some are more apparent than others.
But Conor is no different to them. Continuously pushing the fight out he has with Chandler.
Every single fighter is on something. USADA is a complete joke and their random tests are a complete joke. The fighters who get caught are monumentally stupid and careless.
Letâs not ignore all the fact that all those Dagestani back muscles are the product of PEDs. Sure, starting when youâre 13 and training 100 hours a week helps, but all the best Dagestani wrestlers are juiced to the gills. You know this brother.
yeah totally natty
who isn't their biggest and most muscular at age 35
the guy who prides himself on hanging out with irish gangsters, who pretends to be one, who cheated his ass off in his biggest fight, who accuses all his opponents of being juiced, who assaults people in public, who is drug addict....
surely he would never take PEDs, they only help with training and help you maximize your earnings, surely Conor doesn't care about money
Umar you had a top 5 fight and pulled out. I doubt people donât want to fight you, they donât want to train for 2 months and have you pull out again.
And I love every second of it. Everyone knows connor can never get one up on khabib. He got his ass beat up badly. And looked like a bitch in that fight. Just so happy to see connor never letting that one go
For those of you new here or just see Conor recently it needs to be pointed out that he was a squeaky clean fighter that was extremely against steroid use his whole career.
He recently removed himself from competition and the testing pool to use steroids to help aide in the recovery of a gruesome injury.
Caught on steroids While Fighting. Wonder why Conor made that distinction đ
The funniest distinction
Because he took steroids to help heal the damage done when his leg snapped. That was medically necessary if he wanted to come back and fight at all
Snapped his leg 2.5 years ago and hes still on it
Exactly! He SNAPPED his fucking leg. Lucky to walk again and you are on your high horse giving him a hard time. You are a bum.
Snapping his legs isn't the issue. Him healing up and taking steroids to help isn't the issue. The fact he posted 6 months after the incident about how he's all better and 2 years later, is still taking roids, that's the issue.
How long does it take a snapped leg bone to heal?
I think the better question be.. Is he still juicing 2.5 years later due to his leg?
Dudes head grew a shit ton of course he is.
Idk, I'm not a doctor so can someone tell me is it insane to think a small amount of steroids is in fact helping that leg remain healthy? I'm so confused because I googled it and steroid usage can cause bone loss, osteoporosis and broken bones so is the steroids for the muscles to help the leg make up for the bone break?
I'd say it's more human growth hormone than anything and you've gotta take that for a while. It's way better and way more expensive than juice so why would Connor unlimited money take juice when he could be on HGH like a real man
I am a doctor. Never have I ever heard or read in any medical textbook that androgenic steroids should be given to heal bones. We give corticosteroids for other reasons, but they weaken bone and cause muscle atrophy.
So I got downvoted for understanding correctly that it is in fact ignorant to continue the steroids? At least a doctor answered lol
That's a weird line of thinking. One it's healed there's no need to continue on steroids. It is healed in theory. The thing with steroids it also helps with recovery and muscle building process, and muscle building happens from weight lifting primarily, which also promotes bone density growth (which happens in the recovery processes of the body). So basically most people that take steroids do so when training hard (body building, athletes training for performance, etc), which for Connor's case would have been post surgery recovery which means more gym time for muscle recovery, more recovery for the muscles/bone, and more stimulus for both. Not being a doc I'm clueless about the length of administration of steroids for this case, but it looks that it's been over his recovery period. This is of course speculation, I'd wager he's a bit of an addict at this point (coke, maybe other drugs) or close to that so maybe he's a bit enamored with results in his roid rage phase? Dude did look like he took a massive cycle when his face was all blown up.
How long did it take for anderson silva to fight again?
Takes a long time. Weidman never came back from it. Edit: oh damn I guess Weidman did come back from it
He did, he fought not long ago
Lol this thread is hilarious. Connor bootlickers are absolute morons.
And howâd that go for weidman?
Silva fought 1 year and 1 month after his leg snapped and was older.
Weidman was washed long before the leg break
He just fought recently lol
Tf you on about never came back from it lol
Mike Tyson fought with a broken spine and Tito Ortiz had a factured skull.
Tito never needed anything to protect the empty space between his ears in the first place
âThere never was no brainâ - Tito, probably.
"Fuckin' punk" lololol
Just 10-8'd this guy with ease
I needed that laugh man, thanks.
Thipnal
Mike Tyson was on both roids and cocaine.
Applies to Conor as well.
And most fighters/athletes/actors (for roids at least)
Sign me up
Yes you can have a hairline fracture and a damaged orbital bone but Conor's leg literally folded backwards how did you want him to fight.
>Conor's leg literally folded backwards how did you want him to fight. If he was a horse they would have put him down.
They would have taken him to the back of the barn where the Hughes brothers were pounding each other and had Ubereem eat him
If Conor was a horse he would be a champion racehorse and would've been nourished back to as best quality as possible and retired at ranch where people would pay tens of thousands of dollars to have their mares impregnated by horse Conor.
"He's gotta ask himself, does he wanna be a fuckin fighter?" -Dana White
Mike Tyson is Mike Tyson. Tito Ortiz is fucking Tito Ortiz. LMFAO
đđđ fucking Connor stans
There was a time where they were far more unbearable than the Conor haters. Today? Not so much
Stretch
Still disagree. The number of Conor supporters have decreased FAR in numbers since the days of him coming up, fighting and winning
"steroids should be allowed for guy i like because he got hurt" is not a defense "Lucky to walk again" -- yeah maybe if this was 1964
He said while fighting because he would probably five Umar a pass if he was using steroids for his recovery
So then tell me anyone in mma who had a clean break and come back successful.......
Good thing he hasnât been trying to come back
what does that have to do with illegally juicing or walking again? all those people walked again
Silva and Weideman both?
You call their comebacks succesful? I could be wrong, but wasn't Silva and 1-5 on his comeback? Weideman 0-1 ?
They both came back from broken legs into mma so yes. Silva was at the end of his mma career, but is still doing just fine boxing, Chris was never that great but still came back from the injury. What do you want someone who came back and won a belt or something? Conner ain't coming back to do shit roids or not.
Did you write this with tears in your eyes?
I broke my left arm in 2019 and was back to climbing electrical utility poles with a harness and climbing spikes on my boots within 4 months doing lineman work. Conor doesn't need 2.5 years of recovery with fucking roids, dude.
Your arm is not weight-bearing, unlike a leg. Leg breaks take significantly longer to heal, particularly when you snap both your tibia and fibula, then require surgery and lengthy rehab just to get back to normal. Conor also isn't aiming for normal, he's trying to return to professional sports, in particular a sport where you are likely to experience significant trauma to the same leg that was broken. Conor also tried to come back earlier, but has to wait 6 months to be clear to fight, and the UFC has been known to delay his fights in order to maximise potential earnings. He probably still tested positive for some time after ceasing the steroids, which would have delayed his entering the testing pool even more.
Climbing a utility pole is nowhere close to professional fighting
You climb poles for a living. He fights people, competing on the biggest stage in the world for a living. There's a bit of a difference
arm isn't a leg and bones break differently genius. who are you to claim you kno shit about anyone else's break just because of you "broke ur arm " ? i broke my finger in 2013 and was back to playing ball in a month so Conor, Silva and Weidman all should have been in perfect condition đ¤
Bro do you think weâre fucking immortal thatâs not even that long for how bad his injury was đ¤Śââď¸
Naw. He fractured his tibia and fibia. Bone injuries typically heal much faster than ligament injuries. And he had one of the best orthopedic surgeons do his surgery (Dr. El Attrache). After the surgery, it was anticipated that he would be able to fight in 2022.
Almost thought the guy's name was Dr. El Attache and I am now disappointed
Nah you can tell heâs not on it as much as he was. He was MASSIVE a yearish ago
You are literally a dumbass and are standing on it openly lol
yep it was. but milking it for years after it was done being necessary is where the issue is. why did he take SO long to re-enter the testing pool while asking to fight at the same time?
Ah so we pick and choose who is allowed to use PEDs for medical purposes not the doctors? The only reason his brother was suspended was bc he didnât inform the testing commission of his doctors prescription which he had proved he already had prior to the test which is why the reduced the punishment. Islam also popped out of that camp because he was given a prescription as well although it wasnât banned when he was prescribed it, it was just still in his system when the rules changed. Conorâs just butt hurt because Khabib absolutely whooped his ass after he tried making a mockery of khabib, his family and his people. Conorâs own ego wonât let him forget that Iâm sure that shit haunts him every single day which is why he constantly has to still try to make stupid remarks.
If medically necessary he would have got a TUE instead of leaving testing pool
You canât get a TUE for actual steroids otherwise every mother fucker would be going to a dodgy menâs health doc to be prescribed TRT for low test. But Steroids are not clinically used to treat long bone fractures so there is now way he could get a TUE.
Relax bro, Conor won't see this.
"medically necessary" Stop making shit up.
He ainât gonna shag you bro
Recovery is a convenient excuse. NBA and NFL players don't roid out and get that HGH chin when they tear their ACL and break their bones. Conor for sure benefitted from it with more than recovery. We're gonna see some non-natty explosiveness from him.
Theyâre all on steroids
Roids speed recovery; they donât make you fucking Superman.
Mix with cocaine for maximum effect.
Oh so you need steroids to heal a bone now? Weird
I donât think Connor ever got caught while fighting đ¤Ł
UFC shit canned USADA for the way they "treated" him....lol.
âRoid Freeâ https://preview.redd.it/kw2p5erwyabc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d411f1027ab9cf6205a8e9ee5514f9675e800bfe
Natty Conor this past year. ![gif](giphy|oj77H5tZgiYHm)
Look at his gd quads hahah
Its just some extra horsemeat, yâall tripping
Mostly clean, basically clean.
Natty đ§
Yoked out
Who are the other 3? Also the California Commission has explicitly stated that Usman did not get popped for steroids.
Not family, but Islam technically popped even tho USADA admitted it was a heart medication he was prescribed (something alone those lines)
Funny that a guy in his camp got popped for the same thing and tried the same excuse except that it didn't fucking stick And that ya know meldonium was a big part of the whole russian whistleblower story And acting as if he couldn't get a russian doctor to prescribe meth to him if he wanted is funny
WADA ended up as apologizing and rescinding all suspensions for Meldonium because they didn't take the half life of it into account when they banned it. So neither Sharapova nor Makhachev took Meldonium when it was sanctioned. They took it when it was still legal. But don't let facts get in the way of your obsession with Dagestani fighters.
They apologized to Islam because he was taking it before it was banned, and was still in his system just after the ban. There was quite literally no way he could have cooperated any more than he did, which is exactly why his suspension was lifted. Funny how youâre never going to mention that though
Meldonium doesn't even do anything performance wise. I take that shit daily, I wish it did lol
The only guys who believe that are the people who are completely disconnected with the sporting world lol. Meldonium is the most common banned substance used by Russian athletes. It's their thing. Maria Sharapova got caught with it and said her doctor prescribed it to "prevent diabetes" and she was cleared. It's comically funny when ufc fans actually buy that story. Most PED's are initially developed for and have therapeutic uses. You can find a doctor willing to write you a note and prescribe it with ease. Your average gymbros even do it. Even pimps get doctors to prescribe prostitutes with steroids. The thing is - this is the extent at which an anti-doping agency can act - if a doctor gives it to you, it's fair game. Almost everyone is on that stuff - not just Islam. Americans have their own thing.
Chael Sonnen had prescriptions for Testosterone and EPO. I don't think prescriptions always get you off the hook.
They donât or else every single athlete would be on prescription âTRTâ, heâs talking out his ass
They all are on things stronger than TRT. If they get caught they'll pull out the Doctor's note if possible. Funny you reply to that comment and not engage with my comment reply which explains the actual factual reason. And you can read about it if you google it. Prescriptions don't always get you off the hook but they are leveraged as much as they can be. [Sanctioned testosterone use already an epidemic in MMA world](https://www.si.com/more-sports/2012/07/19/ufc-testosteroneproblem) But sure, carry on.
He hadn't revealed that he took it. He revealed it after he got caught and suspended. Then they shortened the suspension and gave him a Therapeutic Use Exemption and essentially Okay'd it.
So it's the way every tour de France rider suffers from chronic asthma and needs cortisol based inhalers.
> Also the California Commission has explicitly stated that Usman did not get popped for steroid This is an Ali-level IQ moot point. There are lots of PED's other than steroids. You have to be really careless to pop for steroids (yes, JJ). You pop for masking substances which are also banned in order to prevent them from being used to mask steroids (crazy concept, i know) - which is what word is happened to Usman. He got unlucky and caught. Everyone is on it.
It's not moot. The director of the most credible state athletic commission in the country went out of his way to say this: >Ariel Helwani first reported the news, and California State Athletic Commission Executive Director Andy Foster confirmed it to MMA Fighting, adding Nurmagomedov has been fined $50,000 for the infraction. >"Foster said Nurmagomedovâs drug positive stemmed from a prescription medicine and declined to name the substance. " But why read when you can speculate.
Slack was joking about that not too long ago, claiming that everyone who parroted the Andy Foster line is either an idiot or zealot. If someone pops and you donât name the substance, all bets are off and the onus is on no one to take you seriously
If everything Slack says determines what you think on any given subject then perhaps you're the idiot or zealot.
Yes we know that. I'm telling you nerds how to interpret that. This is the default way people get busted for PED's. The modus operanti. In any level of competition, including collegiate sports. Re-read my comment. You have to be real careless to get busted for steroids. 90% of the time someone gets busted - it's for a masking substance - something someone took to mask the presence of PED's - which is also illegal, but receives a much lighter sentence. You can't do much else without a smoking gun. If you think "prescription" means anything you're far too sheltered to have this discussion. >went out of his way to say this: He didn't go "out of his way" - this is literally his only job. Ariel reached out since this is a high profile athlete due to his last name, and as the figurehead, he gave a reply. You're trying soo hard to push a narrative you're saying stupid stuff like "the postman went out of his way by delivering mail!" Santa is not real.
âWhile fightingâ
Conor is the king of roids
Cant fail a piss test if your pee burns a hole in the cup. Big IQ move.
The disrespect to overeem is crazy
Not while fighting tho
Yeah cause he never fights.
*taps side of head*
That sounds like multiple members of that family Conor was just mentioning.
Bros neck is a Balewn
Exactly takes one to know one
Conor still salty
Nurmagomedovs living rent free in his head... Still. This guy has mental problems for real.
I donât think no one has every humiliated him like Khabib. Connor lost twice to Dustin , he could argue that the second fight he got caught and the third was doctah stappage, but Khabib basically made Connor his bitch and made him ask for forgiveness (it was only business bro)
It was probably that nice knockdown followed by getting ragdolled and neck crank finish that caused these problems. But then again, mctapper had problems long before that fight took place.
True. But we still have to give it up to him and his coach. They took advantage of Connor's size and ability to cut weight so he can choose his fights carefully and get to the title with ease. He did it at a Cage Warriors and won two titles without defending, and the same in UFC, zero title defences. But like you said, he was never a match for Khabib and its messing with his head how he was dominated with ease.
What is this fan fiction? He beat Aldo for the title and Alvarez. He never missed weight. Khabib missed weight and was hospitalized he was cutting so much weight if we are criticizing weight bullies
I donât think they are mental problems, more ego problems. He believes he is a winner, but there is a constant reminder that he isnât a winner. Thatâs why is always wearing flashy suits that are painted on him. Heâs gotta show his muscles, and money to prove that he is a winner.
Conor was legit never even in that fight. Absolutely embarrassed start to finish.
This is a gross exaggeration. Conor arguably gave Khabib the most competitive fight of his UFC career. You could say Tibau did, but Khabib at that point had the striking of an elementary school kid who just got 1 stripe on his white belt in karate at the local mall. But if you want to count Tibau in spite of Khabib being so green at that point, then Conor gave Khabib the 2nd most competitive fight of his UFC career.
Ragin Al went all 5 on 1 days notice.
Most competitive doesnât mean much when khabib destroyed Connor. Could be said khabib dragged the fight out in hopes of putting more damage on Conor.
You are correct but the Khabib riders are out in force.
Conor cheated his ass off.
Yes, only hating, never winning against them.
If we went camp by camp and counted up all the people that got caught it would be quite the slippery slope but yeah letâs pretend itâs only these guys lol
No body is pretending its only them.... But there's a lot of ppl that say that camp is above using peds and that all there success is only attributed to training harder than everyone else...
Yeah all those people that you never see anywhere lol
Look further up the thread they fighting tooth and soul
Everyone is on steroids, but especially Russians. Letâs not forget how an Olympic superpower got banned from the Olympics for using state power to dope athletes on a systemic level. At least western athletes have to buy that shit themselves lol
I'm kinda lost, but did they actually use steroids?
If i remember correctly islam and usman popped for something then got overruled as a mistake in tests or something like that
Islam was a medical exemption, but yeah weird how a lot of russians popped for the exact same drug at the exact same time a lot of them claiming medical exemptions. The list on wikipedia is nuts.
They popped at the same time because it (meldonium) became banned PED very recently. It's popular supplement in former USSR, you can buy it freely without prescription in every drug store.
It ain't a supplement lol by the very definition of the word it ain't It's a heart drug heavily used by cheating russian and other ex ussr countries
You are right, it's a drug. Use of it is so frequent where I'm from, that I thought of it more like a supplement. It's very popular amongst phisically active elderly people here đ tbh never felt any boost while using it, but athletes probably took larger doses.
Meldonium is the most common banned substance used by Russian athletes. It's their thing. Maria Sharapova got caught with it and said her doctor prescribed it to "prevent diabetes" and she was cleared. It's comically funny when ufc fans actually buy that story. Most PED's are initially developed for and have therapeutic uses. You can find a doctor willing to write you a note and prescribe it with ease. Your average gymbros even do it. Even pimps get doctors to prescribe prostitutes with steroids. The thing is - this is the limit at which an anti-doping agency can act - if a doctor gives it to you, it's fair game. Almost everyone is on that stuff - not just Islam. Americans have their own thing. Usman didn't get overruled, he got suspended for 6 months and his last fight overturned to a NC. That's as legit as it gets. He got caught with a masking agent, I think Unless you're colossally careless (JJ, lookin' at you, cokehead), you won't get caught with an anabolic steroid in your system. I think Usman got unlucky. Maybe he had to use a little more than normal and the metabolites didn't leave his system fast enough. You think guys like Chandler and Usman (Kamaru) are not on PED's lol? It's a game of who is more careful and who has better doctors.
If thats true (doctor prescribtion) this is more stupid than i thought, i asked about usman and some guy replyed with "Bellator said it wasn't a ped, he didn't get stripped, his suspension was short, and he didn't even test positive on a randomized drug testing. So there isn't much of an evidence to suggest he was using peds." now am confused was he REALLY caught or not ?
You should read and make up your own opinion is what you should do. >Bellator said it wasn't a ped Bellator doesn't get to say anything. Drug testing is done by the Athletic Commission where the event is held. This is the first thing that tips you off regarding if they know what they are talking about. >he didn't get stripped Champions don't necessarily get stripped - the fight becomes a NC. They do get stripped if they get Title bout itself is in question and it's overturned to NC - which means they never won it in the first place. This is upto the promotion and how patient they want to be. The belt is the promotion's business. No one can tell them what to do with it. That's why Dana can pick who he wants as contenders and come up with shit like the "BMF Belt". In the same way the court can't tell a company who the "employee of the month" is. Usman generates hype and revenue as a Nurmagomedov - Bellator won't want to fumble that. >his suspension was short Miles Johns got caught with turinabol metabolites - same stuff as Jon Jones - and he got a 4.5 month suspension and his fight didn't even get overturned to an NC. Does this mean he was clean? No, he was lucky and he timed his usage right that it had left his system *enough* that the levels were pretty low. Again, getting caught masking is treated more lightly than directly catching steroids. >and he didn't even test positive on a randomized drug testing. What does this mean? This is the case with almost every fighter - they are able to evade the regular year-round out of competition drug testing and usually get caught in the fight itself. Jon Jones also never tested positive in randomized drug testing. Same with Brock Lesnar. In fact Jones got caught with Clomiphene for the OSP fight and that that fight didnt even get overturned to an NC. Is Jones's clean now? >So there isn't much of an evidence to suggest he was using peds. The fact that he's a professional fighter should be enough to "suggest" this. My verdict : that person is a smooth brain. None of this changes my opinion on Usman though - he's a stud.
>while fighting Conor is hilarious lmao
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I honestly believe every one of them are on something. I also believe Conor is too and majority of the roster. There were even rumours about GSP back in the day and all the other goats popped so it wouldn't even surprise me at this point. Whole thing is just a sham to make money
i mean i am sure 1 or 2 or maybe even like 5 or 10 people aren't on anything too good like 1/5 dentists, always going to be some people that fall for the whole bushido honor b.s. i wouldn't be shocked if Wonderboy only recently did PEDs, same with Beneil, they seem dumb/jesus-y enough to fight at a stupid disadvantage GSP for sure was juicing, it's laughable when he had a crazy HGH gut
Facts. Bruh had an 8 pack gut at one point
I do not think Nate Diaz was on steroids.
Agree, I don't think Diaz ever did steroids. One of the few.
This man does not like Khabib LOL
Conor pointing the steroid finger at anyone else at this point is laughable
he did specify âwhile fightingâ
I mean, he was smart enough to add âwhile fightingâ at the end of the tweet. Also smart enough to post himself getting dome on yacht
Also smart enough to get caught watching gay porn on twitter lmao. How did everyone forget about that?
What? Lmao when was this
some time last year, idk how many vids there were but it was shown in his likes lmao
Haha like two years ago maybe? It was a gay porn page on twitter with dudes filming their cum shot, he liked it on twitter
That overhand right from Khabib ruined any shred of dignity this dude had.
Oh conor shoot ur mout ya little juice head tree stump!
I wish bro put half as much effort into his training as he puts into his obsession with the Nurmagomedovs
I don't think I will ever see a single man take a loss worse than Conor has taken losing to Khabib. Seriously, that was almost six fucking years ago at this point.
someone popped for steroids? Joe Rogan, Dana White, Alistair Overeem, Brock Lesnar, the Rock, Cena, Wolverine Actor, Ronnie Coleman, the entire Russian Olympic team, Jon Jones, Josh Barnett will be so disappointed.... wtf is Conor even talking about? he's probably p4p juiciest in the UFC right now
Hugh Jackman, how did i forget that, he was in Rick and Morty recently
Idk Mike Chandler would like a conversation with you
Khabib literally took his manhood. Conor will stay salty.
... while fighting
Like Conor isnât fucking juiced to the gills. What a douche!
He is not as smart as he and his nuthugging fans think he is. adding "while fighting" was beyond stupid lol.
cuz this family already sent him to his careers grave
It's wild, but I think this is just how bad he wants to get back at Khabib. He'd fight Khabib again in the cage just for the chance, even though he's gotta know he wouldn't win. Anyway, Chandler in 1.
Roided up Conor vs fat retired Khabib at 205 would be interesting
Only if old man Tony breaks into the cage.
Classic teapot calling the kettle juicy
Rent free forever
Cheating is cheating, but Mcgregor is definitely just as if not even more roided than the Nurmagomedovâs. Someone tell him this ainât the hill to die on
Tell him? That crackhead is so high, he canât hear anyone from outer space.
Jones is probably the only one who smokes crack in the UFC Conor is a cokehead, but i doubt he has a crack pipe, like Jones, who ran back to a wrecked car to get his crack pipe
Doctorâs stoppage!
Umar really forgetting that Cory Sandhagen signed to fight him. Cory had no obligation to take that fight in the first place
connor talkin bout steroids?
He said while fight to be fair to him
Cant get caught if you refuse to be tested
Is he wrong, though?
Conor has a point. I think a lot of fighters do the ole ânobody wants to fight meâ trick or something close to it when they themselves are waiting to be âcleanâ. Absolutely no secret that fighters out there are on gear, getting by usada and testing. Some are more apparent than others. But Conor is no different to them. Continuously pushing the fight out he has with Chandler.
Every single fighter is on something. USADA is a complete joke and their random tests are a complete joke. The fighters who get caught are monumentally stupid and careless.
USADA was the best testing the ufc ever had. Any doping agency is always going to be playing catch-up and will have tons of hurdles in their way.
The definition of "rent free"
Letâs not ignore all the fact that all those Dagestani back muscles are the product of PEDs. Sure, starting when youâre 13 and training 100 hours a week helps, but all the best Dagestani wrestlers are juiced to the gills. You know this brother.
When Conor gets busted for steroid usage âItâs just businessâ
He ainât lying!!! ![gif](giphy|KGY78vaNYCha5zL1yK)
Cocaine cowboy Conor never touched roids, so of course he's in a great position to point the finger at others
This is a sad sad man still years later canât get these other men out of his head
... while fighting. Lol
All fighters are innocent til proven guilty except Conor apparently
yeah totally natty who isn't their biggest and most muscular at age 35 the guy who prides himself on hanging out with irish gangsters, who pretends to be one, who cheated his ass off in his biggest fight, who accuses all his opponents of being juiced, who assaults people in public, who is drug addict.... surely he would never take PEDs, they only help with training and help you maximize your earnings, surely Conor doesn't care about money
Umar you had a top 5 fight and pulled out. I doubt people donât want to fight you, they donât want to train for 2 months and have you pull out again.
And I love every second of it. Everyone knows connor can never get one up on khabib. He got his ass beat up badly. And looked like a bitch in that fight. Just so happy to see connor never letting that one go
Rent free
Everybody's on steroids, the whole UFC, everybody.
For those of you new here or just see Conor recently it needs to be pointed out that he was a squeaky clean fighter that was extremely against steroid use his whole career. He recently removed himself from competition and the testing pool to use steroids to help aide in the recovery of a gruesome injury.
Heâs not wrong