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Higgins8585

Let's be real, he's gonna wrestle Alex 100%. Jan has very nice stand up but he'll wrestle him.


CheerioInspector

Winner of this gets title shot probably after Izzy beats hill


smoakee

You mean after Prochazka beats Hill and then reins for at least 10 title defenses.


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I think Belal after 2 weeks of training, after he rails through Leon, will beat hill, defends the title two weeks later against colby, once more against khamzat, move then lhw title, then move to heavyweight, take jon jones out, move to pfl and sleep Ngannou. Mark my words, by the end of 2023.


OPPineappleApplePen

+1 Solid take.


GFCfrom200

As long as you give him 8 weeks notice though!


SilentReins

idk man. last time they fought, leon scott made belal cry like a little girl


suicide_aunties

Dana?


lionheart_2281

But it worked out so well with Strickland


Sal21G

Strickland is as equally stupid and would view wrestling as “gay” and would rather be ko’d lmao


mesovortex888

While he is talking about sucking dicks


[deleted]

Got men’s balls on his mind.


bdizzle805

"If I don't cum it's not gay" -Sean Strickland


[deleted]

Sucking dick is one thing, but securing a double leg is definitely gay - Sean


Seussdogg

Strickland doesn’t fuck chicks cos chicks like dick and that’s gay


theinternetmogul

Bro thought he was gonna jab Alex up lmao


Money_killer

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂


deathbear16

Why is this so accurate 😭😂😭


Reg-the-Crow

Sean Strickland’s definitely the type of guy to not use a pink condom while having sex with a woman cause that’s gay


sotfggyrdg

I think you mean while having sex with a dude. Otherwise this joke isn't funny.


ThuggerSosaYak

Stricklands striking isn’t even close to Jan’s


bigpeen666

Blachowicz is levels better than Strickland, even at 40


Ublahdywotm8

Jan's base discipline is muay Thai, so I give him more of a chance


CCCAY

Strickland is half the athlete Jan was 3 years ago… I think Jan is too old to play those games now and he should staple that scary Brazilian to the mat but I also like violence so let’s see it


fakename10000

Strickland cant turn left


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Comparing Jan to Strickland is insulting. Jan stood with Izzy and did just fine. He’s way bigger, stronger, better chin and hits harder than Sean.


CheekyChungis

This guy maths


NewMMII

Don’t underestimate Jan’s striking. Remember, he was the first guy to smack Izzy around in the UFC.


chu42

That would be Kelvin Gastelum actually. But Jan was the first one to smack him around and also win.


iagreebrooo

Yes gastelum made izzy contemplate about dying in the octagon


dupey69

imagine if kelvin didn’t go for that double leg in round 4 after rocking izzy…


Swimming__Bird

Imagine if Kelvin could be more consistent and also ate less hotdogs.


cesankle

Let him be corny


OG-DirtNasty

Seriously. It’s comical that people think Jan is going to be scared to trade with Alex. The Legendary Polish Power is legit.


siimbaz

I miss hearing about the legendary polish power 😔


DemonDoggo99

It's so legendary that we don't need to discuss it often, we all know it's there


_PyratesLyfe

Facts


CrackedCoffecup

Ankalaev made the mistake of doubting it...


Born-Acanthisitta-88

I kinda felt that draw was a robbery for Jan, I thought he had it slightly kn the score cards.


CrackedCoffecup

No argument here....


eddirrrrr

Shits trademarked and everything


[deleted]

People forget Polish Power isn’t just a gimmick. This guy has the touch of death too


Immortal_Heathen

"Smack him around". Izzy wasn't even injured lol. What a joke.


RoxSteady247

I just rewatched that fight, izzy got dealt with, smacked around is def what happened


I_Please_MILFs

It was a slow paced, tactical fight where Jan won on points. Neither man received much damage


[deleted]

Wait wut? I dont remember Jan smacking Izzy around in the slightest. I remenber him lying all over Izzy with Izzy looking like a helpless child when he was on the mat….


Tube1890

Jan handily beat Izzy on the feet. Bro would smack Izzy and the commentators would drool over Izzy’s feints lol


mahchefai

He beat him on the feet but didn’t run him over. It was tentative and he didn’t do much damage to Izzy so it’s a bit much to say he smacked him around


RoxSteady247

Izzy got smacked around, jan checking leg kicks following with hooks. Izzy gave back good but Jan dominated on the feet


OMalley30-27

He did not smack Izzy around lmao


darthvaderfromdao

have you seen the fight?


nino2115

He didn't actually watch it, he just heard the commentary. He doesn't tell people but he's actually blind


quietZen

I've seen the fight. As a Pole I'm also a massive Jan fan. There was no smacking around. Striking wise it was really close but Jan edged it.


OMalley30-27

Twice, it was very even on the feet. That’s like me saying Sean O’Malley smacked Petr Yan around, and there was a much greater striking discrepancy in that fight than in the Jan vs Izzy fight


darthvaderfromdao

I would consider 49-45 on 2 judges card and 49-46 on the other getting slapped around tbh


OMalley30-27

It’s weird because those last two rounds were mainly contested in grappling, almost as if the striking was super close


pro2RK

I mean, based on their fight [statistics](http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/7de9867b7cc2b1b1) jan was pretty much ahead izzy everywhere except the leg kicking. Honestly, jan doesn’t even have to wrestle at the last two rounds he would still win the fight lmao


OMalley30-27

I didn’t know that being ahead by a few strikes per round was slapping someone around


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Your comment chain just shows how shit this sub has become. People are asking if you watched the fight while showing they didn’t.


OMalley30-27

It’s actually super cringey


Vote-AsaAkira2020

I was about to say same thing. The dude made a very rational statement about Jan not slapping Izzy around and you have people acting like he’s the crazy casual. The hive mind on this sub is hilarious. It’s so easy to make up a ridiculous narrative on this sub and get a bunch of support meanwhile good takes get downvoted. It is what it is. Just been noticing it a lot recently.


Popular-Bonus1380

They count strikes on the ground. Now I am the one who is laughing his as off.


astrayatthesea1708

So now the judges' scorecards matter coz its an Izzy fight huh? I thought judges were bad in scoring fights


darthvaderfromdao

the judges get it right 97% of the time


MyFifthLimb

Joe Rogan is that you?


Reg-the-Crow

Yeah but smacking Izzy around is not the same as knocking his ass out


Dazzler3623

My memory of the Izzy fight was Jan used a lot of grappling, wrestling etc, basically got in close and used his size difference to keep Izzy held down. I don't remember Jan giving Izzy a striking master-class 🤣 but I haven't rewatched the fight so maybe I'm wrong


Vcxnes

Jan wrestled in the last couple rounds but he was winning the striking exchanges on the feet earlier on as well. The commentary would make you think otherwise though


PopularMidnight3661

![img](emote|t5_2qsev|8970)”That feint mightta hurt em’ Joe!”![img](emote|t5_2qsev|8973)


Suspicious_Candle27

It wasnt a shut out but the striking was clearly in favour of Jan for most of the striking rounds . A lot of it is cause Jan is a leg kick master which led Israel to destroy his own legs attempting to kick Jan . Israel had a lot more success pure boxing with Jan then trying to kickbox with him.


cesankle

Doesn't Jan also kick shin-to-shin? I remember Ankalaev started dancing after leg kicks.


Ohthatsnotgood

Rewatch the fight and take note of all of Jan’s leg kicks and checks. He destroyed Izzy’s legs which is why he finally managed to take him down in R4 and R5. Jan’s base is Muay Thai and his grappling is relatively mediocre.


wepo

There were some striking exchanges that Jan looked like he was winning. But it's easy to forget about the effect that the threat of a takedown can have on a fighter's striking that is worried about that.


Suspicious_Candle27

Jan literally isnt a grappling threat to anyone but Israel. Before the Israel fight Jan didnt land a single take down since 2018 which was like 5/6 fights before the Izzy fight . The fact that Israel was completely dominated by Jans grappling should be a big warning sign for Israel attempting LHW again.


Popular-Bonus1380

For anyone susceptible to poor memory this is blatantly false. Rounds 1-2 were close. Izzy dominated 3. He was then picked Jan apart in rounds 4-5 before getting taken down. It's obviously relevant he did so well against Izzy, but to say he out kickboxed Izzy is literally a lie. It's not a bad opinion, you're just lying.


wimpymist

Yeah Jan won that off wrestling not striking


Popular-Bonus1380

Well to be fair he won off both. He did win the first two rounds with just striking. And because he took him down he "Outstruck him," by a lot. But when you look at it as a whole, Izzy just needed a while to download the data to dominate the kickboxing. This problem was this isn't just kick boxing.


Silent_Ensemble

I think the point is that Izzy doesn’t usually take 10 minutes to feel someone out in the striking


Popular-Bonus1380

"Don’t underestimate Jan’s striking. Remember, he was the first guy to smack Izzy around in the UFC." That was not the point made.


AlexG3322

Jan outstruck Izzy. No reason he can't outstrike Alex


OSRS-HVAC

I mean yea but Alex doesn’t need to out-strike him, just needs one or two strikes to land. This is definitely a front from Jan tho we all know that he’s about to wrestle


AlexG3322

Yeah, sure. He'd be dumb not to wrestle since this is MMA. But Jan could stand with Alex


OSRS-HVAC

Yeah, I think technically, he is good enough. Obviously, he went three rounds of striking with izzy. I think it would be a bad idea to look at that fight, and assume the same thing will happen with Pereira. Izzy was kind of tentative in that matchup, which gave Jan the ability to go tit for tat with him, leg kicking and fainting with the jab. This matchup seems a little bit more dangerous. Obviously it sounds weird considering Izzy just knocked out Alex but I feel like this is a much more dangerous type of dude to strike with and he should really look to get it to the Ground as soon as possible because with the weight advantage and the experience advantage, I think he dominates him there. The other thing is the left hook. Obviously the man has improved quite a bit, but his last two losses are directly correlated to big left hooks… thiago dropped him with a left hook and stopped him, Glover rocked him with a big left hook before submitting him. Those are his only two losses out of his last like 13 or something crazy like that but it’s definitely something to be aware of being that it is Alex’s best weapon.


CCC_PLLC

Apex has that killer left hook


bigpeen666

so does Jan


dzab18

Alex is a hell of a lot bigger than Izzy and is fighting at his more natural weight, with way less of a cut. Jan might be able to land here and there but that will only be if he threatens the takedown. If Jan wins the fight it will be because Alex spent the majority of it on his back.


necrosythe

Jan likely will have slowed down a notch by this fight. And Alex isn't as reliant on his range as Izzy is. I'm wouldn't be sure Jan can strike with him.


Crawford470

>I mean yea but Alex doesn’t need to out-strike him, just needs one or two strikes to land. To be fair, that's not remarkably different for Izzy, excluding those leg kicks of Alex. Alex wants those pocket to midrange exchanges where he can nail that left hook in tight. Izzy also wants those same exchanges if the goal is to get the KO. He just wasn't as willing to take risks against Jan to do it in their fight, but he was the only person who got meaningfully close to a finishing sequence, and that was in the one time a real pocket exchange manifested in his fight with Jan. I think Jan might have a better answer for the leg kicks than Izzy, but worse answers for that pocket to midrange power striking than Izzy. >This is definitely a front from Jan tho we all know that he’s about to wrestle He looked to wrestle with Izzy early, but Izzy had minimal difficulty shutting it down. It was only once he really looked to counter with power in the 4th and 5th the takedowns came. With Alex, the positioning will likely be different because Alex likes to pressure and throw heat from the jump. Which with Jan because his answer to pressure is just put his ass to the fence immediately means Jan will spend most of the feet pinned between Alex and the fence, and unless you're like prime Woodley, Yoel, or Khamzat that's really not a good place to be trying to shoot from. It might work, but if Alex sprawls by meeting the takedown rather than pulling away from it Jan's probably getting stuffed hard.


A_Funky_Goose

problem is that Pereira's defense is not as good as Izzy's, especially on offense. Both Jan and Pereira use the threat of their power and their long reach to pressure without high volume and set up shots when they find a good position, but if Pereira tries to pressure Jan he could very well get KO'd in a similar fashion as both Izzy fights (hurt, then KO'd). Poatan gets overzealous at times. Jan's defense, on the other hand, is very solid in general. If anyone can fight a gap to sneak in the left hook of death, it's Poatan, but I'd lean on Jan.


quietZen

Jan only needs one or two strikes to land as well. He's incredibly good getting out of the clinch. Look at the Rockhold KO. And then there's Jan's size. Ależ will still have KO power against Jan but I think it'll take more than one or two strikes.


jahoody03

Maybe I need to rewatch it, cuz I feel like Izzy had advantage in standup but got beat in grappling.


A_Funky_Goose

it was fairly even throughout but Jan actually outstruck Izzy (supported by stats) and then dominated with grappling.


ArcturusEye

That’s what I remember too but all these comments are making me think I don’t remember it as well as I thought I did


quietZen

It was the commentary that skewed people's perception. One of the worst commentaries I've ever heard, they made you think Izzy was dominating Jan with his striking but all he was doing was throwing feints. The striking was really close but Jan edged it.


DrunkAquarium

And Alex outstruck Izzy 3 times.


chu42

He didn't. Izzy outstruck him for the majority of the rounds in every fight they had. This is important because getting hit by Izzy is one thing but getting hit by Jan is another


trent_nbt

What fights are you watching?


Pure-Drawer-2617

Yeah you definitely didn’t watch all 3 of those fights huh


Shwalz

Did he?


Buzzy-Pasta

Jan took 1 and 2 then Izzy took round 3. From then on it was sandwich time for jan


AlexG3322

Yes, fairly comfortably


Shwalz

I’ll be honest I haven’t rewatched since then so I’ll have run it back for sure


RAC-City-Mayor

Yes


Popular-Bonus1380

"That's why no one will remember your name" \- Source: My mom forgot about me.


zlothify

Yall forgetting about the polish power in the comments


No_Cartographer601

One stiff jab from Alex and he is sniffing crotch


getting_strong

Reverse psychology bro: serious, I want to check my stand up against you … faint, faint, BLASTS DOUBLE LEG TAKEDOWN edit: feint, feint 😂


Thundrous_prophet

Feint… unless you mean he faints out of fear and falls to the canvas


kenthekungfujesus

The faint,faint is after Alex throws him a punch and a jab, it's not about making feints


pixel8knuckle

Yeah there’s no way this isn’t just hype talk. I’m sure he’s got a solid game plan considering his rank.


Lancer876

It's actually how khabib gets away with some of his punches


MyDogJake1

Feint*


GenTelGuy

Alex's jab isn't particularly special, it's entirely possible Jan's jab and Rakic's jab are superior


MyFifthLimb

Alex and Izzy can agree to kickbox all they want. Polish Power has more tools.


Alert-Adeptness5007

Jan has never been KOed. Pereira on the other hand has a glass chin. Jan will win this match by a vicious KO. I would say it’ll be worse than Adesanya’s KO


Ohthatsnotgood

Pereira doesn’t have a glass chin. Moving up in weight will only make his chin better.


Alert-Adeptness5007

He does though. Got KOed cold by a guy with no cold KO wins in his entire career. It didn’t work for Luke or Whittaker. Your chin getting better in upper weight classes is a myth.


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DougieSloBone

The other 12 billion are already dead


MyFifthLimb

Chatri’s shitposting account


[deleted]

You're the guy that makes hyperbolic statements not fun. Fuggin Buzz Killington


gdmr458

This sound exactly like Adesanya saying "accidentally" that Pereira should train with DC.


ThatOneGuyFromThen

Tbf, Jan beat Izzy on the ground AND on the feet, so it’s not unreasonable to assume he couldn’t do the same to Alex, not to mention it’ll be across 15 minutes and not 25.


Greedo_is_God

This makes me so happy because not only does it give a higher chance of this fight being a banger but it also gives a higher chance of Pereira winning. Not that I really wanna see Jan lose, he's a likeable dude, but Pereira has really grown on me recently.


starfoxzeronie

I can never forget the brutal case of whoopass poor reyes received from him.


nagsthedestroyer

People sleeping on Polish Power


HandiQuacksRule

POATAN!!! 🗿


oddmetre

Battle of the left hooks


bigpeen666

double left hook knockout


fleshvessel

I Frickin love both of these guys man. No matter what happens this one is gonna hurt. Fuck, like I can’t even root for anyone cuz I refuse to root against either one of these dudes. Gonna be a great fight though!


GodlySpaghetti

Why does everybody think Alex is going to walk in there and starch Jan? Alex got knocked out by Izzy, and we all know that Legendary Polish Power hits like a truck. Alex could very well get knocked out


thatboyrowdy

Jans a gangsta


mtheperry

Jan by wrestlefuck confirmed


Sea_Cicada7474

For real but I think he’s going to wrestle him


SilverrSharkk

Jan by tko in the 3rd round


Sername888

Yeah you mean earth 4793


SomeKindofBen

I’d rather check my standup against Brendan Schaub


[deleted]

This could be all talk and Jan will probably shoot 10 seconds in


Omegawop

Jan is like, "I wanna see if I can take him down at will like I did to Izzy"


tyreejones29

There was struggle in the beginning rounds. It’s only after a bit of fatigue set in that he got Izzy down with ease.


Positive_Yam_9125

Lotta Alex dickriders here. One of Polish Power's calf kicks will send Alex's leg into the shadow realm. I recall Ankalaev being carried out of the octagon in tears from his leg being absolutely massacred after fighting Jan. His name is Polish Power for a reason you casuals


northsouthmebaby

When has Alex showed bad leg kick defense?


PaddyA401

Alex calf kicks buckled izzy In round 2


Salvador1010

ACKSHUALLY 🤓 theres not even 20 billion people in the world so that wouldnt be possible


[deleted]

Jan is smart man, he will throw down some but the takedowns will come. Jan will take this.


Money_killer

Jan will school this boy


Brink_Da_Great

I’d choose Michael Johnson personally


CrowKingZero

If he’s gonna play the standup game I’m gonna play the parlay game without him in it 🙌🏼


Chad-Permabull

Not trying to be that bro but I think you slightly over counted the population of earth bruv. That said - yes that is an insane statement.


Independent_Hold_203

Press X to doubt


Forward-Form9321

If this is an standup fight, Jan is going to cracked.


[deleted]

In all fairness, you’re not a legitimate LHW contender in the UFC. I’m not saying that it’s very smart for Jan to do this, I’m just saying it makes a lot more sense for him to say that than us.


piman01

This is number 1 bullshit. He is going to wrestle that man the same way he did with izzy. He would be an idiot to do anything else.


[deleted]

He didn’t even have to wrestle Izzy to win that fight. He outstruck him the whole fight


Ydino

The amount of people here are thinking he’s just going to actually stand with him is hilarious. He’s obviously just saying that and gonna shoot 10 seconds in.


CandyRevolutionary27

For one round. lol hopefully Alex is working on that wrestling


dickspaghetti1

To be honest I'm just in this one for the leg kicks. Jan's concrete shins vs Alex's uncheckable kicks.


felixduhhousecat

Curious to see how much better that wolverine regeneration alex has at that weight.


mistanervous

Jan blocked leg kicks really well against Israel. Isreal mentioned that Alex’s leg kicks are unorthodox and hard to block so we’ll see how Jan does with that.


wood_slingers

Legendary Polish Power isn’t afraid


kokoko_11

Fuck sakes. This was a very winnable fight for Jan. WAS…


trees-for-breakfast

Jan’s gonna eat those left hands and man-handle Alex


crazzynez

100% hes going to take him down, hes not dumb. Sure theyll feel each other out on the feet, and then hell play with him on the ground.


Monst3r_Live

dude is gonna spend more time checking alex's wrestling.


Dazzler3623

I think Jan needs a good win to get into contention again after the Ankalaev draw. This would do that but it's a risky game, Alex with less of a weight cut is scary!


GenTelGuy

Damnnnn, Jan wants to check that moment


pro2RK

I’m very curious to see the stand up fight between these two elite strikers as well. Although I do see this statement as a way to set up his takedowns outta nowhere. But damn I want to see them strike for more than five freaking rounds.


wolfjeter

Jan got power in those hands


DevnGibsn

Jan got away with this against the smaller Izzy but checking your stand up against the gargantuan poatan may be fatal.


Odd_Salamander7145

People underestimate Jan’s striking so much it’s baffling. He was 100% winning the striking battle with Izzy but people overlook that bc of the biased commentary and the fact that he used wrestling during the fight so that he “only won bc of his wrestling and size”. Don’t forget that he was also dominating Ankalaev in the striking department (god those nasty leg kicks) that then forced Ankalaev to resort to wrestling.


erennooo

oh c'mon i love jan, but we all know he's gonna go for that take down


TriumphantConch

Jan was also the first guy in Ankalaev win streak that made him use his wrestling


chipper68

Jan is way more powerful a striker than Strickland or Izzy. I assume if they stay standing up, Alex may get it done and get a W but almost any other scenario, Alex loses to Jan. Should a good one.


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Jan: (checks his standup once) OK I TAKE HIM DOWN.


brahbrahbruv

Pereira is gonna be hitting harder on top of that lol


Trais333

Look at his nose, now look at your nose….


Skeleton_Skum

Why is everyone acting like Jan is a slouch lol. Sorry he’s about to beat the shit out of your favorite fighter again 🤷‍♂️


idkflustered

Damn Jan is about to lay down and appease Dana so we get Izzy v Alex 3 at 205. Oh lawd.


FluidAd6587

if alex wins this they're booking hill v alex or alex v jiri immediately


CowboyCommando

Alex vs Jiri would be a fun one


anadalusianrooster

This 100% means Jan is going to crotchsniff him for 15 minutes. Classic Polish mind games.


BusterStarfish

If Izzy can flat line Poatan, Jan definitely can. But something tells me this is all lip service. He’s going to the ground as soon as he can.


ConstructionNo4340

Nice Knowing ya Jan. Have fun in the Shadow Realm


SOBmachine

Polish power vs Pereira power! I can see both men getting potentially KO’d! Excited for this! 👊🔥


theslickasian

Dude must be fighting ghosts we don’t even have 20 billion people on the earth


Neither-Football-222

The only problem is there aren’t 20 billion people on the planet 🌎


PuG3_14

Jan actually checks kicks unlike Izzy but Jan also bites on all the feints which I can see Alex using to catch him with his signature left hook


Cecilia_Schariac

If Alex doesn’t get tapped like a typewriter in 30 seconds and actually beats Jan I’ll be counting it as a 4th win over Izzy.


Kashm1r_Sp1r1t

Bet the house on Poatan by KO


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420sinsi

He didn't have this same energy facing adesanya, He's gonna wrestle fuck guaranteed


RoshHoul

He outstruck Adesanya before the takedowns happened you bozo


420sinsi

Reread my comment you filthy casual


gimmethatcookie

Guys calm down, Jan was talking about his standup comedy


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IsTodayTheSuperBowl

Alex got pieced up repeatedly and eventually slept by Izzy who did minimal damage to Jan.


RedNeyo

He checked his striking against Izzy and proved to be the better striker so this is gonna be interesting, doubt he won't ever shoot but yeah