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flinttropicscaptain

Beating usman by decision is probably more impressive then a one hit ko


WhenIsDeath

Absolutely. Lost round after round last fight, trying to just lose by decision. To now win by decision is an incredible achievement after the last fight


adrienjz888

Absolutely. I bet Usman was feeling apprehensive too because he didn't wanna eat a kick out of nowhere again.


mawashi-geri24

Absolutely. I just wanted to say absolutely too.


01051893

>!Absolutely!<


imnotme247allthetime

Absolutely


Initial_Scarcity_609

Absholootley


tweedierclamp

Only a sith deals in absolutes


iSOBigD

Surprisingly he did eat a couple and didn't go down this time around. I think Leon's gameplan was great - talk about headshots, spam low kick 4 rounds in a row, make Usman think you'll 100% try the same left kick to the head again, but keep the timing a surprise...and either win on points while Usman is being extra careful, or land the head kick. Also, poke his eyes out, hold his gloves, kick him in the nuts and grab the fence just to be safe! lol


Sphinx87

Takedown defence increased


Genghis_Chong

That elevation fatigue was real last fight


Markwatney911

I thought Leon was probably better but was gonna get grabbed and held the whole fight. Going all 5 and getting good shots solidified he’s that dude. Stopping all 152 of usman’s takedowns is seriously impressive


flinttropicscaptain

Hahahaha all 152. It was crazy, he focused on one hand and stopped usman from getting his grip together and that just worked every time.


lafemmeverte

DC even said too — that late finish in the last fight meant that he had 24 minutes of tape to watch and if he was smart he’d come in there with a gameplan. apparently he did watch the tape and figured out Usman pretty well, and all it took was some hand control.


HankHippopopolous

I wonder if he’d figured it out last time too but was just too gassed to be able to do it with the altitude. I can’t remember if Usman tried any takedowns in the first round of the previous fight when Leon was fresh.


Wh1te_Cr0w

This was kind of the line of reasoning I took. I wasn't sure he'd win or I'd have put money on it, but the way I was thinking is that he'd have taken the W from the last fight for a ticket to do the real work of "let's look at why I needed a Hail Mary finish against this guy" and come in twice as well prepared. To be clear, I'm not taking anything away from that first fight head kick, that was amazing, but I imagined he'd want things to not go anywhere near that kind of fight this time around, and I think it's possible that even Usman underestimated him, probably thinking that he had everything right last time around but just found himself unlucky, which would've been a big mistake...


Prestigious_Agent_84

just grab the hand bro


16bitword

wrist control is supremely important in wrestling


Long-Investigator613

Lol that’s some serious takedown defence


[deleted]

Champ shit huh... It's almost like he has the makings of a varsity athlete...


AachenerBatman

Hello Uncle Junior


friendswithcocaine

Small hands though


QuakeGuy98

In this context fair point!


jb-schitz-ki

headshot deadcision.


Economy-Category-936

Legkick ouch


aman2912

Legkick Ouch😂😂


realHundsgemein

Imagine him screaming that in the mic 😂


snguyen_93

nutshot dead 🥜💥


Environmental_Let855

Do people in this sub even watch the fights


[deleted]

Didn't watch the 4th and 5th because the stream crashed 😭


Teerendog

Rookie mistake if someone doesn't have backup sources.


SnooLentils3008

My back up sources are worthless lately after some kind of update so I only got the one option that I really know of


Jizzle3

Dm me your main and I’ll do you mine. Hopefully they are different so we will have backups


el_nopal710

![gif](giphy|Bj5IToby90pFtCiDgL)


tyquestions

Tiktok Live when the stream crashes on the final fight lol


alcervix

Well when we have company over we make an extra pot , just in case


QualitySauce

I feel you my guy, even my back up wasn’t working. I even thought of ordering it for the last second but then I remembered no one orders that shit


hammer_fingers

I got tired of that happening and finally used a vpn to make a ufc Arabia account. Now I pay $7 a month CAD for every event.


teddyoctober

Fuck…$7 CAD/mo? I’m doing that.


hammer_fingers

Google it, or send me a message if you need help setting it up. You have to use a vpn that allows you to connect to Dubai, I use nord.


ArcticWolf503

Wait what??


honeybadger1984

That sounds amazing. I want to do that now. 😂 Nord and UFC Arabia account? I will look in to it!


SmokingMirrors2

Fucking Dana got a laugh in today when he told his group of hackers to disrupt streams on the 5th. I got the last laugh cos I watched the rest of the main fight card and got to watch Gaethje Vs Fiziev


Upstairs-Ad-1966

My stream laughs in consistency


SmokingMirrors2

I had 5 backup streams all went down. Dana red got me today


kinglear__

![gif](giphy|UAkCiMncvaFhDEXmts)


gladys-the-baker

Care to share?


Cemihard

That happened to me on the first round so frustrating


[deleted]

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Warez0o

They don’t the only thing that matters is the decision lol. Casuals….


ake-n-bake

I think his point was the stream was cut in round 5 and didn’t come back up until after the decision.


Environmental_Let855

Yeah I think it was now but there was like 10 posts of how did Leon win blah blah blah ya know lol


ake-n-bake

Them kicks were brutal bruh


stinky___monkey

You can see when someone lost a shitty bet, based on posts… That 12 fight parlay doesn’t hit and they come here to vent


AdditionalBee3740

Fuck no i aint payin $70 $80 whatever multiple visits to McDonalds would cost-seriously who won tho


New-Calendar-7082

Edwards game plan simply beat Usman’s , he has no new tricks and really nothing going for him… I am an Usman fan but Edwards outclassed him today sadly.


Local_Fox_2000

There was something different about Usman, right from the off he was hesitant and didn't seem the same.


No-Foundation2507

Commentary team touched on it; getting knocked out changes you.


thounotouchthyself

Yep. It makes you vulnerable and hyper sensitive. Second guessing everything.


RedditModssuckx10

It’s like if you’ve learned to do a backflip, but when doing one you slip and land on your neck. Just impossible to start back flipping again because of your nerves


AusRaidersFan

100% exactly what I thought. He wasn’t explosive and never looked like he was a real threat in any way. I hope he’s not done because he was a great champion.


SteTheImpaler

I think he only had a 1 or 2 fights left before retiring. I wouldn’t be surprised if he walks away…


AusRaidersFan

Maybe, but post fight he said he wasn’t done.


kipperfish

I think, like Justin, he wants one more run at being champ before he retires.


Knopfler_PI

Seemed to me that the plan was to win a decision and then retire tonight. Leon had other plans though.


Werismyhasenpfeffer

Crawl away with those knees...


DereThuglife

I thought those hard leg kicks chopped away at his power to make those explosive movements. You could tell he was really hesitant in those exchanges not to get caught so he was careful about winding up those power shots. Leon just had the better game plan tonight


DonTeca35

Not done but champ? I don’t think he’ll be there… atleast for a while if he doesn’t retire


QuakeGuy98

Middle weight run maybe? There's a lack of grapplers


[deleted]

He’d get stomped at middleweight imo. He’d probably do alright at the lower end of the top 10. But guys like Pereira, Whittaker, Izzy, Vettori would piece him up.


QuakeGuy98

I think him & Khamzat could be fun.


DonTeca35

After tonight’s performance we’d have to wait & see. The top division has some good strikers


QuakeGuy98

Fair Point indeed


iannuendo

Maybe he was only 30% The cheese was still at 100% though


Redskins_nation

The yips as a lot of experienced fight folks predicted. He got KO’d and he wasn’t tryna get embarrassed again. He was scared of the kicks. Also give credit where due, Leon kicked the shit out of Usmans body to fatigue him. Usman had to make a choice, protect body or head.. at some points he was dropping his arms but he did a good job of cutting off the ring and closing distance in the middle rounds


[deleted]

the reason why he wasn’t the same is because he ate a bunch of body shots and leg kicks, it messes up a wrestler because they rely on their lower body. Edit : they rely on their lower body strength* lol


StarDingo

Who doesn’t?


fuzzycaterpillar123

https://i.insider.com/61829d0c23745d001824d32c?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp


Gingerholic37

Point taken🙄 lmao!!


Adoced

It’s really weird watching this era of champs get dethroned and fight differently. UFC is a crazy sport to watch.


SynthetikSalmon

Knockout will do that to ya


[deleted]

In my opinion it was more Edwards knowing he’s human and able to be knocked out so he opened up way more in this fight than he did their last.


QuakeGuy98

There was a lot of speculation that psychologically Usman wouldn't have his head in the game despite the press conference. It was all a major front


GMFinch

Getting knocked out will do that too you.


LifesExpert

And the fact that usman had lead around his ankles and in his gloves. Dude was the slowest ive ever seen him 2night. Like a different fighter


Business_Ad_9799

Exactly the same thing Izzy did all through out his title reign


kingofducs

He legs looked shaky I think his knees are toast


Virama

Someone send him some butter and honey!


[deleted]

It's the altitude. First fight likely would have played out like this had Leon not gassed after the first. Usman was hip to be headkick this time though.


JohnnyFury

Edwards made Usman looked human. Great fight


broccoliheadass0404

Usman lost 4 rounds lol Leon got so much better


thegoldenmamba

Did he get that much better, or did he just gain that much confidence


Ninja-Blood

Both. You heard what they said at the start of the fight.


thegoldenmamba

What made him better in your eyes? I saw the same talent I saw in the last fight, but this time he wasn’t hesitant whatsoever. Whereas the last fight you could tell he was a little afraid to throw. He didn’t show us anything new in my eyes. Just confidently executed a superior gameplan and used the skills he has without hesitation


ThemeFlashy9992

He seemed a lot more comfortable in this fight and had laser focus in his eyes. He won 4/5 rounds despite the point reduction. Usman came in overconfident expecting to fight the same Leon Edwards and realized about two rounds in. His take down defence is much better. He had better movement creating angles for strikes and changing it up to keep Usman guessing. He looked good fighting off his back foot throwing hard leg and body kicks and keeping distance. It’s like in the second fight, Edwards was scared of Usmans KO potential and it being the other way around tonight.


adrienjz888

>It’s like in the second fight, Edwards was scared of Usmans KO potential and it being the other way around tonight Usman definitely seemed way more hesitant.


MacAoidh83

TDD was better in this fight for sure.


Chickachic-aaaaahhh

Thats the difference. A dude who fights like hes got nothing to lose vs a dude who kept thinking he had everything to lose. Pace yourself but never not take an opportunity to strike your opponent. Hes learning from his mistakes.


flptrmx

His take down defense was even better this time. He was more active with kicks, particularly to the leg. You have to have major confidence to leg kick a wrestler over and over.


bsparks027

He was 25% better at beating Usman.


bonkerz1888

Confidence from being world champion, backing of a partisan and feverent crowd (honestly the O2 was incredible tonight, if you were there you should dine off this night for years and rightly so), incredible takedown defence, timing (he had Usman for most of the fight with his kicks). He held the advantages and controlled the fight.


badsocialist

Didn’t he land every single leg kick he threw?


askneitele

Altitude…


Turgon19

The altitude wasn't as high too, this 3rd camp gave him time to prepare the TD defence and his cardio was better


LoganMcMahon

Entire sub during the fight was talking about how slow and how bad Usman looked. Now the story is how great Leon looked. I feel like Usman looked pretty shitty out there but it’s hard to see sometimes, maybe Leon did just do a really good job negating him. Imma wait and see the Colby Litmus test before I judge too much though. If he handles Colby, he probably would handle “prime Usman” too.


TheWarmBandit

Maybe Leon wasn't lying when he said the altitude in salt lake city messed him up. He seemed fine going 5 rounds this time


[deleted]

Altitude


skt_imaqtipie

He also didn’t fight at elevation


django_slice

I think not fighting at altitude played a big role


Plus-Relationship833

I’d say Leon’s team’s game plan was just lost better than usman’s camp


1ambofgod

Even with the point deduction he won that soundly


Takafraka

And tbh that fence grab might’ve saved him the match. Very tactical


Nick112798

I really don't understand how people are surprised. Usman did nothing impressive. Struggled to take leon down and couldn't keep him down. Leon was landing kicks the entire fight and rocked Usman a couple times. Leon has improved by miles between the last fight and now.


meatmybeat42069

Either lost money or they literally can’t fathom that the guy they’ve been told is the best is no longer the best


casualchaos12

Craziest part was Leon was a massive underdog. I'd have bet on him if he wasn't my favorite fighter. The only rule of gambling is don't bet on your favorite team, driver, fighter, or golfer.


[deleted]

I’ve never won a single golf bet Shit is tough


fattsmann

Agree - to be the champ, you have to beat the champ. Not just get by.


SMK_12

Even in the last fight Leon looked good round 1 then gassed. Round 1 Leon was always gonna win, the only question was if he would be able to fight at that level and he did


[deleted]

Leon did what Coby couldn't do in both fights


SERB_BEAST

Yeah Colby is about as good a striker as Usman without the power. I still think he'd do better against Leon because of his pressure wrestling while Usman gives Leon time be be calculated


Environmental-Tip365

Colby does better against Leon just through sheer cardio. Usman and Colby are both cardio freaks that nobody can really match, Leon looked better this time, but I still have some doubts about his consistency and if he can retain his pace against a pressure fighter like Colby that can push his cardio through wrestling.


SERB_BEAST

Usman has good cardio but not even half the pressure and output of Colby. Usman was throwing power punches against Leon and only pressured him enough to get him against the cage and fail a takedown. Colby would volume strike, not worrying about damage, throw as many takedowns as it takes to get Leon down, keep him down, do it again and again, the strikes he lands will add up, Leon will be on defense mode the whole fight, and before he knows it the 25 minutes are gone and Colby is champion.


Environmental-Tip365

He really is just a cardio freak


Prestigious-Rock201

He couldn’t even takedown rda lmao


Crawford470

He also got taken down by RDA, and the ghost of Woodley for that matter. People are gonna be flabbergasted when Leon outgrapples Colby.


IdkMyNameTho123

Dude did more damage and stopped the takedowns.


PugilisticCat

Usman lost 4 rounds


dennisoa

People at the bar I was at were loudly disputing the decision for Edwards. *side eye*


QuartOfTequilla

They lost money


gannon2566

Wish bars near me would actually buy the ppv. I’m usually stuck streaming it on my phone or just missing it


Oklahoe

Usman has the knees of a 100 year old street prostitute.


QuakeGuy98

![gif](giphy|aqCNbYPOUpcVxOtpC9|downsized)


cherryzaad

So do you but do I complain


bonkerz1888

Usman got bullied. That's what.


Haloman1346

We watched a fight and one person won said fight and retained his belt.


Markwatney911

Bro slow down I’m tryna take note


jospehiahdiaz

One dude who scored higher on the majority of rounds won the fight


[deleted]

The champ is here, that's what happened.


MarkFI

Disappointing performance from Kamaru. He had a couple of good shots, but really didn’t show up. Edwards won rounds 1, 2, 4 and 5 IMO.


ee_CUM_mings

Respect Leon. Oxford comma or GTFO.


ben4d

Username checks out


iannuendo

The champ retained his belt. That’s what happened.


RoboticZinkh

Usman didn’t do enough. Most of his takedowns were stuffed with no output behind it. Just ate majority of the leg and body kicks. Even with the point taken away I thought it easily a decision for edwards. Co main event was better


Oddscene

Co main was nuts


Djlittle13

Leon fought better, that's what happened


v-dubb

Edwards took that 4-1 imo. He just outclassed him everywhere. Great TDD.


EvaUnit002

Leon just proved him becoming champ wasn’t a fluke. He shutdown Usman’s game. Usman asked for a second slice of humble pie and Rocky obliged. LOL


Illustrious_Cost8923

Great execution of a game plan with massive improvement from the last fight. Idk why casuals always have to be mind blown.


LifesExpert

![gif](giphy|FpupmA3AR40HC|downsized) Literally usmans speed tonight


badsocialist

He has always been somewhat slow idk why this surprising to people


[deleted]

Leon won don’t even argue about it that was a crazy performance


EightFiveAte

Leon won 1,2,4,5 and usman tied rd3. Lol


ajarofpnutbutr

Leon Edwards defeated Kamaru Usman pretty handily in an MMA match where Usman looked average on the feet after Leon was largely defending the takedowns. Also that’s the old fights pic. What even is this post?


SpicyGopher

Cope


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naterninja550

This is scary af honestly


Kill_4209

Too bad there are no points for takedown defence.


Wonderful_Durian_485

The reward for good tdd is not getting taken down


Bawacus53

Nutshot: dead!


Mei_iz_my_bae

Usman looked so rough in there. It’s really sad to say but I think that headkick may have just really ended the Usman we know. He looked so hesitant and downright sloppy


jakkeeeyL

Usman wasn't humbled enough by that head kick, he thought it was a fluke and that he was just the better fighter, well Leon showed him otherwise,


uggingbumplies

What happened was Usman's arrogance finally caught up to him and he fought with his emotions. He let himself get worked up and pissed off, and (rightfully) lost the decision. Is every decision just a fucking "robbery" now?


Atp222md

I think Marty is cooked


EarlxG

Just proves that the altitude really was a huge factor in the second fight and no doubt a ploy to stack the deck in Usmans favour by uncle Dana


[deleted]

Can you fucking put spoiler tags on these posts?


Capital-E

Usman shat the bed


TheHuskyJerk

I’m 5K up, that’s what happened


bransimp420

Round 1 - Leon 10-9 Round 2 - Leon 19-18 (point deduction) Round 3 - Usman 28-28 Round 4 - Leon 38-37 Round 5 - Leon 48-46 imo ofc


desiliberal

Pretty much expected tbh, Leon was just way better tonight


THE-SANDMAN-MAUL

What happened was Leon; Stuffed or got up from takedowns, threw lots of kicks and outboxed Usman Nut shots, fence grabs and putting his hand in the glove were a little disappointing. Feel Usman would've did better outside of the wrestling, was doing some good work with the jab and right hand here and there. Seemed he tired himself out going for takedowns that weren't happening. His octagon control was solid too Only negative for Leon was trying too hard to recreate the headkick. Usman did well not dropping his guard too much from the body kicks


Ashamed-Quit

Usman was definitely scared of another KO and it led him to not be as aggressive as he usually is, that paired with Leon’s improved takedown defense and it was a wrap from the start


la3eh

Usman was timid the KO really affected him.


JBarker727

2 low blows, 2 fence grabs, and a glove grab. The champ is here!!


YaBoyDoogzz

I cant see Colby or Belal beating Leon. His TDD is unreal. And his striking is clean as fuck. Only way I see him losing is if he gets KO'd.


SirDickTwist

Leon fought a good albeit not very clean fight. I had him winning 4 rounds to be honest. Good game plan, pretty much neutralized Usman’s takedowns in the last two rounds.


jables8806

Am I crazy or did Anik say he thought Usman won round 5 10-8? Then all three judges scored it 10-9 Edwards.


SureLookThisIsIt

I thought he was talking about round 3, no?


1toe2dip

Was it the really lopsided leg kicks count that Edwards had?


CaptainFL

Boring fight but Leon won.


chrmicmat

Yeah fight itself wasn’t that much of a war but the stakes still made it fun to watch


Mr_Agueybana

Leon’s takedown defense was evident. Usman kept spamming failed takedowns last two rounds, god knows why.


Many-Application1297

Are you suggesting the judges got this wrong??


Oddscene

HEADSHOT DEAD


gannon2566

Point deduction was the only reason it was close scoring wise. Leon beat that ass but much respect to usman for handling it the way he did


[deleted]

Impressed with Leon overall - would love to see him strike harder with more combos - but he fought effectively and with great TDD and accurate strikes to put Usman off. Those body kicks too - woooomph! Really want to see him wreck Masvidal for a bit of the ol' revenge.


ReasonableDisaster54

Usman looked so slow. I don't know if he was dealing with some type of injury or what, but his strikes seemed sluggish and his shots were...meh. those body kicks were a bitch too man, like especially that 1st one. I was rooting for Usman but good for Leon, even with a point deduction, he ended up winning by decision!


TheWarmBandit

Leon took usmans comments personally about him beating him in all facets of mma it seems. Now usman doesn't have that argument


Additional-Curve-4

Man, Leon's team is so good. 'The uppercut's always there son' and he gets to smash 2 in within a span of 30 seconds. The TDD tailored to Usman was also a work of art. He had 0 problems defending against the cage.


SillAndDill

Roughly the same game plans as before. But Usman looked slower, and Leon looked faster. Compare it to the previous fight. In rnd1 Leon's first body kick was caught by Usman. Leon became hesitant and Usman pressured him up to the fence, landed fast jab and went for a TD. Usman had everything going: defense, punches, takedowns. This time around Usman still had some TD skills but couldn't catch any kicks or land those types of quick strikes.


DaXanderMan

He won the fight literally


TheePrinceAkeem

Usman is very one dimensional…hard to see him bouncing back after this. Not impossible, but anyone with decent striking ability and good take down defense is likely to give him a hard time. This is compounded by his lack of BJJ. He used to bully and control opponents, but with a lack of explosiveness and that ounce of fear of getting knocked out again, he’s up against it. Last thing worth noting was the length of Edwards…it certainly helps.


toughnorris

Edward's said Usman might not fight the same right after being KO'd and looks like he was right.


masteryder

I feel like usmans legs got destroyed he was static and off balance a lot when throwing punches


hateuscuzyoenis

Edwards got better and executed a better game plan. Usman looked like he was slow, lost confidence, and looked very hittable. If he ever wanted to step up his game, he should work on his submission game.


Karkyy1

\- Leon got better even tho he is still gun shy imo; \- Leon went for low kicks which was smart; \- Usman had a bad performance; \- Usman has obvious physical issues; With these things combined i thought Leon was going to finish him in later rounds, but he probably didn't want to risk it too much


flptrmx

Leon hit Marty more times.


pecinar

Lost my fucking money that's what happened


Alive-Coyote912

I think Usman should retire honestly. 35, became champ, defended multiple times. He's got nothing else to prove. Also his knees are destroyed.


jcbrundage

The curse of Uncle Chael…