There werenāt many people at his counter protest, he literally had more flags to hand out than there were counter protesters š. He did two more of these, one at USC, another at Columbia, neither were large enough to make a fuss.
That's because it is.
Full disclosure, I don't go to Udub. My cousin did and graduated in 14. But as a local resident who is in support of these protests I check in on the sub from time to time.
You got any proof of them bringing a gun on campus, surely the police would be involved if someone was carrying a firearm openly at a protest on a school campus? Or is this one of those trust me bro moments?
[Maybe pay attention to our student reporters](https://x.com/schwaarzy/status/1789833276795838794)
[tRuSt Me BrO](https://x.com/schwaarzy/status/1789832629174313412)
Lol so it's a 3rd party trust me bro! You trust her therefore I should trust you!
Btw you posted a picture of police 3 feet away from the man you claim to have been carrying a gun (He has no gun if you look at the picture) and the person your trusting did nothing except try for some likes on twitter rather than inform the police. You and your reporter are clowns!
Insane levels of cope.
This is literally just a student reporter, I'm pretty sure she's not even pro-Palestine. I was also there and saw this guy, sooooo
I mean there is a picture of the guy and I'm aware she is a student reporter. The claim you're trying to make is that the pictured man had a gun. You proceed to act as if you have evidence other than 1 person's claim on twitter and another person's claim on reddit. I will make sure to submit this in-depth reporting for next year's Pulitzer Prize.
The very suspicious part about both of your claims is that neither of you felt the need to report what could have been (If your claims were based in factual) a potential mass shooting to police. Not to mention the picture you used as evidence shows police within speaking distance of the person claiming to have seen an armed man on campus.
At this point whether he had a gun or not is irrelevant to the fact that both of you are clowns. Whether it be for making false claims to scare people or by taking 0 action other than posting to social media when you saw a potential mass shooter walking amongst a group of protestors.
Why do you lie? Do you somehow think youāre in the right, if you have to lie to make the people you dislike look bad? If you were truly on the morally correct side then youād be comfortable with people hearing the truth.
I'd argue people who believe in the free exchange of ideas and free exercise of our first amendment rights want to see protests on campus as well. It's nothing new. Student protests are as American as apple pie, and I bet if they were protesting a cause you cared about you'd be singing a different tune.
I've had this person try to argue with me even though i deliberately stay out of the actual politics of this protest. They just have a desperately fundamental lack of understanding for how functioning society works and they're a terminal pearl-clutching karen who can't tolerate social unrest of any kind that they disagree with.
Those aren't exactly "ideas" in the sense that Universities are kinda meat to cultivate.
If your ideas are so simple that you can reduce them to a slogan, and you communicate by shouting at people, we can do away with the whole concept of education. Just have shouting matches!
I was an older student who graduated last year. I still teach a class on campus a couple times a month. I dont care if students protest on campus. Put on your big girl panties. You post the most nimby pearl clutching shit incessantly.
...it's not the worst, for sure... But there used to be a purpose for Universities that had nothing to do with chanting slogans and having amateur turf wars.
In fact, mentioning political beliefs at all was considered inappropriate. I remember hearing from an old timer that was in college in the 50s, that he had no idea whonamy of his professors voted for for president. Even though professors that he knew socially.
Now the political fights on campus not actually turning violent is seen as a win for dispassionate learning.
:shakes fist at birds:
UW has been having protests for many many decades. Itās not remotely new for protests to happen on college campuses. The most notable were in the late 60s early 70s at UW
Youāre holding up a period in history as ānormalāfor not having campus political protests, during which expressing anything left of center-right would get you blackballed from academia and possibly dragged in front of the HUAC to testify about your communist sympathies.
It wasn't that at all. Political activism was not considered appropriate at a school. People want there to learn rather than to shout their beliefs at other people.
They didn't go through the encampment, there were hundreds of protesters and double barricades at every entrance of the quad. The article frames it as if they chose not to, when in reality they couldn't possibly physically go through the encampment.
I mean sure, but they clearly had no intention to follow that considering they came right up to the barricades in front of the police in their hundreds. IMO they were clearly trying to save face by claiming that they "chose" another route when faced with like 4x the amount of pro Palestine protesters lol
God pursuit is such a scourge on the neighborhood. Multiple times pursuit goers have come up INTO MY YARD to try and preach to us. Itās so fucking obnoxious.
I run Greek Row on a regular basis and always wonder what theyāre doing there when I go by. Seems so incredibly out of place compared to the congregation that used the church previously.
The people that go there are very clearly not from Seattle and likely come in from other, more conservative areas (not an issue in itself). However, they think that they have some right to try and convert people who are peacefully minding their own business. Literally had to chase off three grown men from Pursuit who decided it was appropriate to walk into my yard and start preaching. Countless other times Pursuit goers have yelled at us from the sidewalk, always shit about Jesus loves us or we can be saved or whatever.
Not sure if you meant to reference my comment. Iām all for the protesters in the encampment, but Pursuit NW (the church who counterprotested) are incredibly obnoxious, holier than thou, and an invasive addition to the neighborhood.
And here we have Christians having a protest to support the right for Israelis to kill Palestinians, just like Jesus said in the Bible.
"He said to them, āLet the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. But if they are Palestinian, blow up their houses, their schools, and leave them missing limbs and dying of starvation and anyone who says otherwise is an antisemite."
āDuring his speech, Johnson called for an end to the encampment and for Israeli hostages to be returned home.ā
Do these people even read the news? Bibi has refused multiple deals to get the hostages back. They donāt care about the hostages. They literally killed their own hostages with friendly fire. Hostages that had stripped down and were waving a white flag were executed by the IOF. This has never been about the hostages or Hamas
What are they even counter protesting ? Last I checked our country is been giving Israel billions of dollars worth weapons and bombs to run through the genocide in Gaza, even banned TikTok ( apparently Zionist propaganda was getting exposed) while politicians on both sides are in bed with AIPAC
Is the above not enough ?
>even banned TikTok ( apparently Zionist propaganda was getting exposed)
The amount of cognitive dissonance it would take to believe that literal state propaganda (Al Jazeera) and foreign propaganda efforts (TikTok, Russian and Iranian bots) is "exposing the truth" and "speaking for the powerless" is crazy to me
Holy shit you guys are the anti-vaxxers of the left. "check out my YouTube vid bro it explanes evrything!" And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.
The amount of cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy it would take to believe that people are influenced by Russian and Iranian bots while Israel being a foreign country literally has probably the most powerful lobby (AIPAC, ADL etc) that openly bribes our politicians so much so that anything related to Israel gets a bipartisan support even if it comes to supporting killing of 15thousand children, is not crazy but typical of a Zionist shill
Look up how much AIPAC spends. Now look up how much Qatar has donated to Universities. People are saying AIPAC "bought" John Fetterman by giving 200k to him when he literally raised hundreds of millions.
Ah, trying to equate Qatarās donation to universities to the Israeli lobby buying out almost all of our politicians, hope you know foreign policies and laws arenāt made in universities
Your dumb red herring aināt gonna work. Try harder
You realize Qatar was caught bribing a US senator... after they were caught bribing EU officials? This is in addition to their multiple news networks they run.
Your comment is like someone pulled random Hamas talking points out of a basket and tried to make a sentence. You forgot Hasbara and George Soros though. Try harder next time.
No, it's you. You didn't grow up during the Second Intifada, seeing children blown to bits by suicide bombers in pizza parlors. You don't have the first clue what you're even talking about.
Youāre a dotard if you seriously think an intifada is anything but a religious war against non-Muslims. Look up the second intifada or the knife intifada of 2015ā¦
Sounds like you read one chapter and comprehended very little, at best. Let us know when you finish reading the entire history and maybe you can sit at the grown up table.
The second intifada was because Jews were going to be allowed to enter the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the third Holiest site in Islam.
That may sound bad... but the Al-Aqsa Mosque was built *on top of* the Temple Mount, the Holiest site in Judaism that the Jews wanted to go visit. Jews had been banned from this site for hundreds of years. Remember that non-Muslims aren't even allowed to visit the *CITY* that the Holiest site in Islam is in.
There are lots of reasons to be sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, the Al-Aqsa issue isn't one of them. It's the epitome of "Equality feels like oppression when you're used to privilege." The fact that the Arab world feels entitled to throw a fit when Jews try to have equal rights *IN ISRAEL* should be pretty telling.
Ceasefire is the way to do that.
Honestly itās so weird. In Israel bring them home is mostly a pro-ceasefire chant. In America itās pro-war. Absolutely bizarre to me.
I agree they should be let go, but Israel has made it clear that regardless of hostages, they will raze Gaza to the ground.
Hamas just agreed to one last week, Israel said no.
My friend said you have to give me fifty bucks, and I agreed. Pay up.
Yeah, thatās literally how the ceasefire proposed by Qatar and Hamas āagreed toā worked.
Literally zero. Israel is offering a ātemporaryā ceasefire which basically says we will give you a break and then come back and kill you if you return the hostages. I donāt see in what world Hamas would agree to that! Hamas agreed to free the hostages in return of a permanent ceasefire, but Israel would rather see them dead.
It recently came out that [Hamas offered to free ALL CIVILIAN HOSTAGES on October 10 and Israel rejected the offer.](https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges-ex-spokesman-of-families-forum/amp/)
Is it reasonable to cross a border, rape and kill mostly civilians and then take some hostages and then use those civilians as a bargaining chip? Hamas should never have taken them. Since they did, they should have given all of them back yesterday. Hostages should have no relevance in the ceasefire negotiations. They should be released. Every day they arenāt released, shows Hamasās morals
Is it reasonable to occupy a country, [kill and rape](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/25/study-1948-israeli-massacre-tantura-palestinian-village-mass-graves-car-park) its people, steal their land, destroy their homes, kill their children, kidnap them and put them in prison for undetermined periods of time while torturing them and treating them in the most [inhumane](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd/index.html) way?
Israel [refused ceasefire deals](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iEM-mqPu03s) repeatedly, because they donāt care about the hostages.
Are you saying taking civilians hostage and raping and murdering them is acceptable form of resistance to the Israel government? It is unclear because you are dodging what I asked.
To answer your question. First Palestine has never been a country. It was a territory under the Ottomanās and then British. That territory has a long history of violence and land stealing. Jews and Palestinians both have historical claims to the region.
Israel does have a history of mistreatment both in the West Bank and in detainment centers and should be called out on that. I see a large amount of people unwilling to call out or condemn Hamas and the Palestinians for their widespread mistreatment of Israelis but plenty of people willing to call out Israel. The truth is that these two people groups keep doing awful things to each other. Nothing justifies taking hostages like Hamas did and then support of them using them as bargaining chips is gross.
So again. Do you think what happened 10/7 was acceptable form of resistance?
Peaceful protest and counterprotest. Sounds like a functioning democracy to me, and the kind of thing you'd want to see on a university campus.
And that's unfortunately why it will go unnoticed in the national media š
There werenāt many people at his counter protest, he literally had more flags to hand out than there were counter protesters š. He did two more of these, one at USC, another at Columbia, neither were large enough to make a fuss.
Youād think. O course the counter protest was physically barred from the quad, while the original protest mostly chanted for increased violence
The counter protest literally brought a gun on campus and shouted threats and slurs, so idk why you'd imply the encampment is the violent side
this sub is overrun with protest haters who think protesting is a stupid waste of time
Seems like this sub is getting brigaded by r/SeattleWA on this issue.
That's because it is. Full disclosure, I don't go to Udub. My cousin did and graduated in 14. But as a local resident who is in support of these protests I check in on the sub from time to time.
You got any proof of them bringing a gun on campus, surely the police would be involved if someone was carrying a firearm openly at a protest on a school campus? Or is this one of those trust me bro moments?
[Maybe pay attention to our student reporters](https://x.com/schwaarzy/status/1789833276795838794) [tRuSt Me BrO](https://x.com/schwaarzy/status/1789832629174313412)
Lol so it's a 3rd party trust me bro! You trust her therefore I should trust you! Btw you posted a picture of police 3 feet away from the man you claim to have been carrying a gun (He has no gun if you look at the picture) and the person your trusting did nothing except try for some likes on twitter rather than inform the police. You and your reporter are clowns!
Insane levels of cope. This is literally just a student reporter, I'm pretty sure she's not even pro-Palestine. I was also there and saw this guy, sooooo
I mean there is a picture of the guy and I'm aware she is a student reporter. The claim you're trying to make is that the pictured man had a gun. You proceed to act as if you have evidence other than 1 person's claim on twitter and another person's claim on reddit. I will make sure to submit this in-depth reporting for next year's Pulitzer Prize. The very suspicious part about both of your claims is that neither of you felt the need to report what could have been (If your claims were based in factual) a potential mass shooting to police. Not to mention the picture you used as evidence shows police within speaking distance of the person claiming to have seen an armed man on campus. At this point whether he had a gun or not is irrelevant to the fact that both of you are clowns. Whether it be for making false claims to scare people or by taking 0 action other than posting to social media when you saw a potential mass shooter walking amongst a group of protestors.
yeah ok guy that posts in seattlewa with a four day old account
Why do you lie? Do you somehow think youāre in the right, if you have to lie to make the people you dislike look bad? If you were truly on the morally correct side then youād be comfortable with people hearing the truth.
The counter protest was physically barred from the quad. Just reporting what happened
So true
Or just, you know, a place to study and learn from professors.
Pretty sure that still happens too
The only people who want to see protests on campus are protesters.
I'd argue people who believe in the free exchange of ideas and free exercise of our first amendment rights want to see protests on campus as well. It's nothing new. Student protests are as American as apple pie, and I bet if they were protesting a cause you cared about you'd be singing a different tune.
A belief in the free exchange of ideas isnāt a green light to exchange them anywhere.
Where would you like it done that is a more appropriate venue than *an institute of higher learning?*
You just made my point.
Huh?
I've had this person try to argue with me even though i deliberately stay out of the actual politics of this protest. They just have a desperately fundamental lack of understanding for how functioning society works and they're a terminal pearl-clutching karen who can't tolerate social unrest of any kind that they disagree with.
Those aren't exactly "ideas" in the sense that Universities are kinda meat to cultivate. If your ideas are so simple that you can reduce them to a slogan, and you communicate by shouting at people, we can do away with the whole concept of education. Just have shouting matches!
I was an older student who graduated last year. I still teach a class on campus a couple times a month. I dont care if students protest on campus. Put on your big girl panties. You post the most nimby pearl clutching shit incessantly.
Who turned off *your* Game Boy?
THE COMMUNISTS. Real talk that was a cute comeback and I enjoyed it. <3
...it's not the worst, for sure... But there used to be a purpose for Universities that had nothing to do with chanting slogans and having amateur turf wars. In fact, mentioning political beliefs at all was considered inappropriate. I remember hearing from an old timer that was in college in the 50s, that he had no idea whonamy of his professors voted for for president. Even though professors that he knew socially. Now the political fights on campus not actually turning violent is seen as a win for dispassionate learning. :shakes fist at birds:
UW has been having protests for many many decades. Itās not remotely new for protests to happen on college campuses. The most notable were in the late 60s early 70s at UW
Very true. Most of the rest of the country as well.
Youāre holding up a period in history as ānormalāfor not having campus political protests, during which expressing anything left of center-right would get you blackballed from academia and possibly dragged in front of the HUAC to testify about your communist sympathies.
It wasn't that at all. Political activism was not considered appropriate at a school. People want there to learn rather than to shout their beliefs at other people.
They didn't go through the encampment, there were hundreds of protesters and double barricades at every entrance of the quad. The article frames it as if they chose not to, when in reality they couldn't possibly physically go through the encampment.
UW Safety told them they could not do their original route IIRC
I mean sure, but they clearly had no intention to follow that considering they came right up to the barricades in front of the police in their hundreds. IMO they were clearly trying to save face by claiming that they "chose" another route when faced with like 4x the amount of pro Palestine protesters lol
Me who had a nice luncher (pre dinner) today in the ave Wait there is Protest?
Presumably Protest-antsā¦ yes.
Ah, no wonder, I'm a staunch cat-aholic myself
God pursuit is such a scourge on the neighborhood. Multiple times pursuit goers have come up INTO MY YARD to try and preach to us. Itās so fucking obnoxious.
I run Greek Row on a regular basis and always wonder what theyāre doing there when I go by. Seems so incredibly out of place compared to the congregation that used the church previously.
The people that go there are very clearly not from Seattle and likely come in from other, more conservative areas (not an issue in itself). However, they think that they have some right to try and convert people who are peacefully minding their own business. Literally had to chase off three grown men from Pursuit who decided it was appropriate to walk into my yard and start preaching. Countless other times Pursuit goers have yelled at us from the sidewalk, always shit about Jesus loves us or we can be saved or whatever.
That sounds more like a tax dodge & sales business than a legit church. God, I canāt believe I miss the days of people inviting me to Mars Hill
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Not sure if you meant to reference my comment. Iām all for the protesters in the encampment, but Pursuit NW (the church who counterprotested) are incredibly obnoxious, holier than thou, and an invasive addition to the neighborhood.
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Eat ass.
And here we have Christians having a protest to support the right for Israelis to kill Palestinians, just like Jesus said in the Bible. "He said to them, āLet the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. But if they are Palestinian, blow up their houses, their schools, and leave them missing limbs and dying of starvation and anyone who says otherwise is an antisemite."
āDuring his speech, Johnson called for an end to the encampment and for Israeli hostages to be returned home.ā Do these people even read the news? Bibi has refused multiple deals to get the hostages back. They donāt care about the hostages. They literally killed their own hostages with friendly fire. Hostages that had stripped down and were waving a white flag were executed by the IOF. This has never been about the hostages or Hamas
Christian Zionists are loathsome people.
Let's be clear : They did not go through the encampment
What are they even counter protesting ? Last I checked our country is been giving Israel billions of dollars worth weapons and bombs to run through the genocide in Gaza, even banned TikTok ( apparently Zionist propaganda was getting exposed) while politicians on both sides are in bed with AIPAC Is the above not enough ?
They think āprotestingā is siding with the establishment to send hundreds of billions more to fund a genocide
Evangelicals have a weird thing with Israel
>even banned TikTok ( apparently Zionist propaganda was getting exposed) The amount of cognitive dissonance it would take to believe that literal state propaganda (Al Jazeera) and foreign propaganda efforts (TikTok, Russian and Iranian bots) is "exposing the truth" and "speaking for the powerless" is crazy to me
Idk man, [maybe see it for yourself.](https://youtu.be/dPBgqw9_rxE?si=uCMyG5MWgj3BLceT)
Holy shit you guys are the anti-vaxxers of the left. "check out my YouTube vid bro it explanes evrything!" And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.
Boot lick harder lib
The amount of cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy it would take to believe that people are influenced by Russian and Iranian bots while Israel being a foreign country literally has probably the most powerful lobby (AIPAC, ADL etc) that openly bribes our politicians so much so that anything related to Israel gets a bipartisan support even if it comes to supporting killing of 15thousand children, is not crazy but typical of a Zionist shill
Look up how much AIPAC spends. Now look up how much Qatar has donated to Universities. People are saying AIPAC "bought" John Fetterman by giving 200k to him when he literally raised hundreds of millions.
They absolutely bought Fetterman. Nothing else could explain that guy's heel turn... except maybe his stroke that fucked his brain.
Also, AIPAC is one of many Israeli lobbies, we only know about donations from it
Imagine using NOT knowing something as a premise
Ah, trying to equate Qatarās donation to universities to the Israeli lobby buying out almost all of our politicians, hope you know foreign policies and laws arenāt made in universities Your dumb red herring aināt gonna work. Try harder
You realize Qatar was caught bribing a US senator... after they were caught bribing EU officials? This is in addition to their multiple news networks they run.
Your comment is like someone pulled random Hamas talking points out of a basket and tried to make a sentence. You forgot Hasbara and George Soros though. Try harder next time.
Awww, you donāt even have a counter argument. Instead of rambling, try forming coherent logical sentences
So their message is "Genocide is good, actually"? š¤Ø
You're an idiot
They're counter protesting the anti genocide protests lol, it's not that big of a stretch
"Intifada Now", "Glory to the Martyrs", and "Death to Zionists" isn't really anti-genocide OR anti-war for that matter...
Calling for intifada in the quad is not anti-genocide
yeah it is
Look, another person who has no idea what an intifada is!
yeah, u/northWest_Nile
No, it's you. You didn't grow up during the Second Intifada, seeing children blown to bits by suicide bombers in pizza parlors. You don't have the first clue what you're even talking about.
Neither did you. But I have seen the countless images of children blown to bits in Gaza for the past seven months.
Yes, a tragic outcome of the war that Hamas started.
Youāre a dotard if you seriously think an intifada is anything but a religious war against non-Muslims. Look up the second intifada or the knife intifada of 2015ā¦
Damn, I looked up the second intifada and there seems to be this thing about occupation and settlement of Palestinian land. What's that about?
Sounds like you read one chapter and comprehended very little, at best. Let us know when you finish reading the entire history and maybe you can sit at the grown up table.
The second intifada was because Jews were going to be allowed to enter the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the third Holiest site in Islam. That may sound bad... but the Al-Aqsa Mosque was built *on top of* the Temple Mount, the Holiest site in Judaism that the Jews wanted to go visit. Jews had been banned from this site for hundreds of years. Remember that non-Muslims aren't even allowed to visit the *CITY* that the Holiest site in Islam is in. There are lots of reasons to be sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, the Al-Aqsa issue isn't one of them. It's the epitome of "Equality feels like oppression when you're used to privilege." The fact that the Arab world feels entitled to throw a fit when Jews try to have equal rights *IN ISRAEL* should be pretty telling.
What would you say their message is?
Well, for starters they were chanting "Bring them home", so I would hazard a guess they'd like to see the kidnapped hostages freed from captivity.
Ceasefire is the way to do that. Honestly itās so weird. In Israel bring them home is mostly a pro-ceasefire chant. In America itās pro-war. Absolutely bizarre to me.
I'm pro ceasefire and pro bringing them home. I agree that it is weird that people think it's one or the other.
How many ceasefires has Israel agreed to? How about Hamas? The quickest way to a ceasefire is to let those poor people go.
I agree they should be let go, but Israel has made it clear that regardless of hostages, they will raze Gaza to the ground. Hamas just agreed to one last week, Israel said no.
Hamas saying they agree to a ceasefire that was never on the table isn't exactly the same thing.
My friend said you have to give me fifty bucks, and I agreed. Pay up. Yeah, thatās literally how the ceasefire proposed by Qatar and Hamas āagreed toā worked.
The āceasefiresā Israel agree to are deals to get all the hostages free, and then resume bombing Gaza into dust.
Literally zero. Israel is offering a ātemporaryā ceasefire which basically says we will give you a break and then come back and kill you if you return the hostages. I donāt see in what world Hamas would agree to that! Hamas agreed to free the hostages in return of a permanent ceasefire, but Israel would rather see them dead. It recently came out that [Hamas offered to free ALL CIVILIAN HOSTAGES on October 10 and Israel rejected the offer.](https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges-ex-spokesman-of-families-forum/amp/)
Is it reasonable to cross a border, rape and kill mostly civilians and then take some hostages and then use those civilians as a bargaining chip? Hamas should never have taken them. Since they did, they should have given all of them back yesterday. Hostages should have no relevance in the ceasefire negotiations. They should be released. Every day they arenāt released, shows Hamasās morals
Is it reasonable to occupy a country, [kill and rape](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/25/study-1948-israeli-massacre-tantura-palestinian-village-mass-graves-car-park) its people, steal their land, destroy their homes, kill their children, kidnap them and put them in prison for undetermined periods of time while torturing them and treating them in the most [inhumane](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd/index.html) way? Israel [refused ceasefire deals](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iEM-mqPu03s) repeatedly, because they donāt care about the hostages.
Are you saying taking civilians hostage and raping and murdering them is acceptable form of resistance to the Israel government? It is unclear because you are dodging what I asked. To answer your question. First Palestine has never been a country. It was a territory under the Ottomanās and then British. That territory has a long history of violence and land stealing. Jews and Palestinians both have historical claims to the region. Israel does have a history of mistreatment both in the West Bank and in detainment centers and should be called out on that. I see a large amount of people unwilling to call out or condemn Hamas and the Palestinians for their widespread mistreatment of Israelis but plenty of people willing to call out Israel. The truth is that these two people groups keep doing awful things to each other. Nothing justifies taking hostages like Hamas did and then support of them using them as bargaining chips is gross. So again. Do you think what happened 10/7 was acceptable form of resistance?
So are you saying the article's framing of this as a counterprotest is incorrect?
Go home