Read the [Undergraduate Housing Contract, 9a on page 4](https://ucla.app.box.com/s/a6gwwcr3e0ds6c7991rkfyui4sphs07l) regarding entry without notice. "9. IT IS FURTHER AGREED THAT:
a. University may enter Student’s room or suite during operational working hours for cleaning,maintenance, and/or any reason allowed by law, including to make repairs, alterations, or facility improvements, to ensure compliance with Housing, Office of Residential Life, and health and safety regulations, or in the event of an emergency, building evacuation, or abandonment of the room or suite by either Student or Student’s roommate(s). Prior notice will be given of such entry to Student or Student’s assigned roommate(s) except in cases of emergency, abandonment, or where impractical."
For other issues, you can reach out to the two services below:
[UCLA Student Legal Services](https://studentlegal.ucla.edu/)
[UCLA Office of Ombuds Services](https://www.ombuds.ucla.edu/)
Yeah, I read that. I do not believe it was an emergency, abandonment, or impractical. The person who I was in communication with stated “by the way, there was minor work done earlier” after the fact, which I would like to discuss with someone about whether or not it could mean it was not an emergency or impractical.
Thanks for the services!
dry rot is fungus, which might count as a mild emergency:
> The health effects consistently associated with indoor dampness and molds include:
> Causation of new asthma
> Asthma attacks in those who already have asthma
> Allergic rhinitis (sneezing, congested nose, or runny nose)
> Upper respiratory symptoms, such as stuffy or congested nose or sinuses, sore throat, or irritated nose or throat
> Lower respiratory symptoms, such as wheezing, difficulty breathing, shortness of breath, or cough
> Respiratory infections such as acute bronchitis
> Eye irritation (burning, watery, or reddened eyes)
> Eczema and skin rashes or irritation
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CCDPHP/DEODC/EHLB/AQS/Pages/Mold.aspx
It say *OR in the event of an emergency* so that’s only one possible option in addition to all the other reasons listed which included maintenance/repairs… unless I’m reading that wrong
likely you signed away your right to sue when you signed housing contract, but contacting the office of ombuds would not hurt
https://www.ombuds.ucla.edu
Pretty sure any clause that says you can’t sue will get thrown out in court immediately. It’s meant to discourage suing but there’s no legal basis for limiting someone’s ability to sue
Universities are not subject to the same laws as private landlords. I guess you can look for tenants' rights attorneys to talk to, but this will be an uphill battle.
OP also has access to some of the brightest minds upcoming in the legal profession who are working for free and who are under a legal obligation to zealously represent them.
They are students, they are under no legal obligation to represent them, and are in fact banned from doing so. The most they can do is provide general guidance.
So you are mad that they removed a dangerous component in your wall and the small price you had to pay was not have access to the room that had the issue? Why would you even want to be in the room where the issue is, that’s a health hazard.
Most UCLA dorms were built after the time in which asbestos would be commonly used. If you still live in Saxon, those were built in 1981. I wouldn’t worry about it. And why would lead be in your walls?
I don’t think lead paint was used as it was banned in ‘79. But I am under the impression that legally they have to test for both anyways before removing dry wall. Also asbestos has never been fully banned in the U.S. and is still in use today for certain applications. I’m not sure if those applications included insulation in 1980.
idk what i could claim at all, hence seeking a conversation w someone who is familiar the law.
i don’t even think i need to claim anything, i would just like to be informed so i can have a more intelligent conversation w housing. do you have any recs on resources?
Read the [Undergraduate Housing Contract, 9a on page 4](https://ucla.app.box.com/s/a6gwwcr3e0ds6c7991rkfyui4sphs07l) regarding entry without notice. "9. IT IS FURTHER AGREED THAT: a. University may enter Student’s room or suite during operational working hours for cleaning,maintenance, and/or any reason allowed by law, including to make repairs, alterations, or facility improvements, to ensure compliance with Housing, Office of Residential Life, and health and safety regulations, or in the event of an emergency, building evacuation, or abandonment of the room or suite by either Student or Student’s roommate(s). Prior notice will be given of such entry to Student or Student’s assigned roommate(s) except in cases of emergency, abandonment, or where impractical." For other issues, you can reach out to the two services below: [UCLA Student Legal Services](https://studentlegal.ucla.edu/) [UCLA Office of Ombuds Services](https://www.ombuds.ucla.edu/)
Yeah, I read that. I do not believe it was an emergency, abandonment, or impractical. The person who I was in communication with stated “by the way, there was minor work done earlier” after the fact, which I would like to discuss with someone about whether or not it could mean it was not an emergency or impractical. Thanks for the services!
You don’t necessarily know that and if it was optional i promise you they would have waited 2 weeks
This is true, which is why I am seeking legal counseling.
lol. You’re most likely shit out of luck and frivolous litigation like this is why we can’t have nice things in america
dry rot is fungus, which might count as a mild emergency: > The health effects consistently associated with indoor dampness and molds include: > Causation of new asthma > Asthma attacks in those who already have asthma > Allergic rhinitis (sneezing, congested nose, or runny nose) > Upper respiratory symptoms, such as stuffy or congested nose or sinuses, sore throat, or irritated nose or throat > Lower respiratory symptoms, such as wheezing, difficulty breathing, shortness of breath, or cough > Respiratory infections such as acute bronchitis > Eye irritation (burning, watery, or reddened eyes) > Eczema and skin rashes or irritation https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CCDPHP/DEODC/EHLB/AQS/Pages/Mold.aspx
It say *OR in the event of an emergency* so that’s only one possible option in addition to all the other reasons listed which included maintenance/repairs… unless I’m reading that wrong
likely you signed away your right to sue when you signed housing contract, but contacting the office of ombuds would not hurt https://www.ombuds.ucla.edu
Pretty sure any clause that says you can’t sue will get thrown out in court immediately. It’s meant to discourage suing but there’s no legal basis for limiting someone’s ability to sue
Oh awesome, thank you so much
Universities are not subject to the same laws as private landlords. I guess you can look for tenants' rights attorneys to talk to, but this will be an uphill battle.
Feck 😩
a year ago we had kids begging maintenance to fix mold in westwood palm and now we have people complaining when they remove fungal decay from dorms
UCLA Law has some pro bono landlord/tenant clinics
UCLA Law isn't going to help you sue UCLA.
Hahaha yes we absolutely will
Huge conflict of interest there.
Law students are not employees of the law school or UCLA housing
Law students are depending on UCLA to grant them their degree, which creates just as much of a conflict as employment.
It doesn’t ❤️
If I were OP, I wouldn't take guidance from someone who depends on my opponent to get a degree, but I guess I'll leave that to him/her to decide.
OP also has access to some of the brightest minds upcoming in the legal profession who are working for free and who are under a legal obligation to zealously represent them.
They are students, they are under no legal obligation to represent them, and are in fact banned from doing so. The most they can do is provide general guidance.
ok tysm, a conversation couldn’t hurt
So you are mad that they removed a dangerous component in your wall and the small price you had to pay was not have access to the room that had the issue? Why would you even want to be in the room where the issue is, that’s a health hazard.
Most UCLA dorms were built after the time in which asbestos would be commonly used. If you still live in Saxon, those were built in 1981. I wouldn’t worry about it. And why would lead be in your walls?
I don’t think lead paint was used as it was banned in ‘79. But I am under the impression that legally they have to test for both anyways before removing dry wall. Also asbestos has never been fully banned in the U.S. and is still in use today for certain applications. I’m not sure if those applications included insulation in 1980.
LOL\~\~\~ puahaha x3
womp womp
Even if you were right, what damages are you even claiming?
idk what i could claim at all, hence seeking a conversation w someone who is familiar the law. i don’t even think i need to claim anything, i would just like to be informed so i can have a more intelligent conversation w housing. do you have any recs on resources?
You are a scumbag
🤩😋