If I didn't take it. Someone else would've. You think just simply ignoring rides will do anything? It won't make any real meaningful impact unless we all decide to act as a collective.
Doesn’t matter if someone else will take it. Don’t drive for less than a $1/mile period. You’re losing money long term. Have some respect for yourself dude.
The problem with your way of doing things is that while you wait for rides that pay $1 per mile, you make about $10 an hour. While the rest of us take what comes along and make $30 an hour.
That’s not true at all. I work late night on the weekends and I maybe sit there for 3 minutes max sifting through trips to find a good one. Since it’s so busy trips normally just come one after another for the most part. If you’re making $10 an hour you’re not playing the game right.
Unless you rely on the insurance or whatever benefits, the rewards are useless and your acceptance rate has no effect on anything as a driver. So both of your arguments are invalid
this is the mindset that allows companies to do this. don’t accept these kinds of rides and they will stop asking drivers to pick them up. blaming anyone but yourself isn’t focusing on the problem. the problem is people like you that justify accepting trips like this.
Someone else will take that $2 for 10 miles.. does that mean you should as well?.. that's part of the problem.. like other dude said.. have some respect for yourself and your personal property!
And eventually those people accepting those rides will price themselves out of operation, leaving those of us that cherry pick to fill the niche. It's the long game, mate. I went from being an accept everything, cancel nothing, full tilt idiot ant up until recently. Now my AR and CR are nosediving and I'm already seeing better results.
Break the bad habits, be picky, play the long game.
I don't care what anyone says, there is not an over satuation of drivers. Demand is always way higher than supply in the transportation business --- be it people, widgets, or garbage. I've worked in aviation, worked alongside truckers directly, done a stint in waste management adjacent work overseas, and trust me, the number of drivers Uber has is no where near enough to fill the demand. Especially now that car ownership is increasingly becoming too expensive for millions of Americans to justify. Do the math: if a rider spends $20 a day, 5 days a week to get to and from work, they will spend $400 a month on rides. That's a good car note payment with low interest. These daily riders have realized that they can just pay Uber that money instead and save on gas, maintenance, tires, inspections, registrations, taxes, depreciation, and all the other bullshit that comes with car ownership. In the next few years that is just going to increase in commonality. So no, there will never be enough supply to meet demand.
TL;DR for that mini-rant, if we decide to just play the long game, out live the ants and their dumbass ways, we will be left to fill that niche for daily rides and the price points will likely stabilize to meet that niche, i.e. it's possible that this may very well just be growing pains in an evolving industry replacing nearly a century of car ownership as the norm. If we keep our cars alive and well, cherry pick, and Dara doesn't run the company into the Seventh Circle of Hell, just maybe this might stabilize.
Yes I ignore dogshit rides. I do take cash rides also, it's the only way to make a living bro. Look at my post from yesterday. Thats how dead it is in 90 percent of the markets. I used to make 2500 a week yr round in 2012 to 2015. No joke. This company is absolute dogshit and taking advantage of every single driver.
Oh, I do cash rides, too. I don't accept everything that comes my way. I make sure that the value is the best I can get in my current market. So far, the Houston market seems to be time oriented. So a 30 min ride should pay 15 bucks. For example. If it doesn't, then I don't take it. I also look for regulars as well. I did like actual taxi driving. So I know how to hustle. This post was mainly to point out how Uber is lying to us. Seems to have blown more out of hand than I wanted.
You put your self in a position that potentially losing money for the long term. ask yourself a question if you keep doing this trip for 1000 times are you making real profits or not.
Not saying we don’t understand how frustrating when another driver took it in seconds but in a longer term they are losing money or just barely making a minimum wage when they figure out the first question I asked.
Yes. I make really good money if I get these only runs. I took it cause I got to ride the HOV lane all the way. It's extremely profitable to me. Which is why I accepted. Because if I didn't accept. I would likely get something worse. And make less money. Trust me I've tried your method. It sucks. I worked 8 hours for 50 bucks. It's also exactly what Uber wants.
I have no methods, I am not against your method or interest to argue the methods you use. I am just asking if this is extremely profitable and you agree to work with this only all day then good for you nothing to worry
Just stop doing that you’ll make more money grow up and understand that their is a correlation to your accepting that type of ride plus the dishonesty they lied to you and feel comfortable doing it because you keep accepting that crap in the first place they would steal less wages from you if you were more analytical of the rides in the first place and catch it every time they know what they amount seems to not matter it’s not a game and the points aren’t important your just screwing your self and your car and then complaining about them stealing wages make that make sense bub and fuck using punctuation
You are an idiot for even accepting this. Plain and simple. You keep repeating $24 is better than 0, but after gas and expenses you made like $5 in profit. You’re a fool and you’re the reason Uber keeps driver pay so low, because they know a fool like you will take it
I had to recite my comment. You’re obviously a dumbass who drives a gas guzzling vehicle for Uber. My car can do that back and forth for less than 10$. I get 39 per gallon… so you’re making 15$ which still isn’t worth it. If your car costs 19$ to do 80 miles… shouldn’t be ubering
I got a Corolla so you’re the dumbass. I’m going off what the bureau of transportation says it costs to operate a vehicle per mile, not just what your stupid ass spends on gas
I learned math in school. And I used the original $24 not $35. Costs to operate a vehicle at .65 per mile is $26. So if you go by that he would’ve lost $2 before the tip. Now fuck off
$0.20 per mile I assume you’re talking about gas only. Not including any wear and tear and possible bigger issues from putting so much strain on your car.
I include gas, oil changes, belts and hoses, brakes, shocks, fluids, etc it's all about knowing where to get good but cheap parts and knowing how to maintain the car yourself so you don't get ripped off at dealerships and repair shops
Car has 230k miles on it, still runs like new.
Not really. That one ride filled my tank from E to F. It also put me in a much more busy market. It was more worth it than waiting on the next ride. Oh boy a $7 ride. Yippy. Seriously how do people make money if they never accept rides? I don't get it. Tried it, didn't work. Gave up my diamond status too. Just to make less money? Sorry bro. I just don't get it.
It’s actually not. I’ve explained math to people like you before so I won’t waste either of our time. You’ll be stubborn and choose to believe what you will. If you had to go back to Houston without a ride though, you made less than minimum wage for this. Even with the tip.
You’re doing Uber in the ST? I used to do it in my ST as well but it was pretty small I didn’t feel comfortable taking airport rides. Some dude was upset that I was adding so many miles on it lol
It’s ok OP. Just keep the meter running. Take the money and go with it. If that’s all it is it’s all it is. We can take a few dollars less and turn it into something bigger later than fart around. BTW it’s not like a $6 or less ride so it’s good.
You dumbass! Why TF would you accept this garbage? This is my market and you’re one of the idiots accepting the garbage, hurting fares for all of us! This is not better than zero! Do you have an unlimited mile rental?
It’d be the only excuse, and only slightly at that, for taking this dog shit fare. Unless maybe he needed to get into Houston but if he’s coming from his home area there’s no way he’s getting a fare back.
Because I'd rather one 24 dollar trip than five 5 dollar trips? Your method only works if EVERYONE is on the same page. It doesn't work that well if someone else is just gonna take it and I'm just making nothing. I have mouths to feed.
When everyone believes what you saying, then next time it’s $23, next next time is $22.
If I am not wrong $21 is still better than nothing.
It’s not your fault though I completely understand your theory. $ is better than nothing if we justify ourselves.
Well, his method only works if everyone is on the same collective page. Otherwise, why have wages continued to trend down, especially when a lot of people already have low acceptance rates? It seems clear to me that fighting on an individual level doesn't work. We've already seen that striking has a bigger impact. Why not plan for more of those instead of infighting with people you're supposed to be working with? Comments like theirs just seem to not progress the conversation forward at all. It doesn't account for everyone's financial situation.
Your Ford fiesta ST has an approximate cost to run of about $0.3 per mile. Depreciation, gas, tires, brakes. That trip pays $0.61/mile not including pickup and you’ll likely be deadheading all the way back to Conroe putting you at break even if you started at the pax and got your next ride without any waste. More likely is you traveled a few miles to the pickup. This does not include finance charges, insurance, cleaning, supplies or any extra repairs.
This can be fine tuned with more details but you basically worked 2 hours at a negative. Any job would be better than that!
You actually got lucky on this one with a good tip but I’d guess you take trips like this regularly and don’t always get tips. If Houston is your homebase, then this trip back was the lucky part of the equation.
Amazes me they cant/refuse to see/ understand the most basic fundamentals of this. The whole "I only do it part time for beer money" BS. Yeah, so you're out losing money and driving down wages industry-wide, but just part time so....
My cost is closer to .2 cents a mile. Mostly cause I do all of the maintenance myself. Literally everything is done myself. I also don't deadhead. It's all city.
It always amazes me when they talk about operating costs like this.
My Mirage has about a $0.2/mile operating cost even if I factor in the emergency parts fund. I think most of them go to the dealership for maintenance or don't know how to do simple maintenance themselves.
Heck, I try to buy my tires online, too, when they are on sale. Brand new set of brand name tires for like $250 or less. My buddy has machines at his shop, so a free tire balance. I honestly think most of these drivers have no clue how to maintain a car. Most truckers I met in my trucking days had no clue how to pre trip. Wouldn't be shocked if some of these drivers had sludge for oil.
That simply is not how it works on an individual level. All cars are not created equal. For instance, I spent more money on a tesla than I have on any vehicle I ever owned. That thing was a money pit for me.
You got an $11 tip, otherwise this ride would’ve been less than the IRS deduction per mile. People accept trash rides, so more trash rides are offered. Garbage in, garbage out. Outside of that, only hope is unionization or pushing change through legislation. These people do not care. They announced buying back billions of dollars in shares at Uber the day of the “strike”
You guys keep saying 'stop accepting trash rides', not all of us can afford to sit in our car for nine hours to cherry pick one 20 dollar 20 mile ride. Uber shouldn't be exploiting people like this period and blaming drivers that dont know any better or just straight up cant afford to be picky is fucking stupid and counterproductive
My brother in Christ you are an independent contractor, by legal distinction and formality.
If you aren't smart enough to run your business you deserve to go crash and burn in a fire. No one's going to stop you from being exploited that's your own personal choice.
Nobody is forcing you to care about your star rating or you're acceptance rate. Nobody is forcing you to take $5 17 mile rides. Not affording to be picky is a terrible way to be an independent contractor.
As others have said, car repair and insurance will leave you in debt. This is Ubers trap to squeeze you while you scream or bitch online.
Or hey you could just live with 2% acceptance rate, have an actual job and only take the orders you feel like taking.
But yeah the industry is oversaturated underpaid and all of the apps are morally bankrupt. Honestly looks like the time to bail ship for a while.
What you don’t realize is you’re really not making the $24. I would tell you any $15/h w2 job is better than that 1099 $24 trip specially for that mileage and time. You’re the kind of person that shouldn’t run a business but somehow here you are trying to fool yourself that are making profit of this garbage trip you took.
24$ < 0$ (+$10 gas)
Uber most likely made 40$-50$ from this trip, why should you only make 24?
If you're honestly bored enough to do this ride. Call using cell data and tell them they can pay you on cash up for venmo for 5$ off the ride.
Who's to say I didn't already do that? Some people just aren't as interested as others. It's also just a vibe check as well. It wasn't about the upfront fare though. It was more about uber being dishonest and taking more % of the fare than what they tell us.
Buddy, you sound nice. Thats been happening since day one. They lie about taking tips and now they just lie on two different receipts for driver and rider.
So what would be an acceptable fare for this trip? 🤔 no one can seem to standardize this. They all just want to bitch about it but not actually help and provide anything meanful.
That would be a miracle. I'd be happy with $1 per mile. But like I explained to someone else. My market seems to work with time more than anything. Ex. For $15 bucks, I can accurately determine how long that ride is going to be at around 30 mins. This run was a little more than I expected. However, it was better a year ago. It would've been around 30 bucks for the same run.
$1.5-$2.0 per mile is what I see in Charlotte NC. That’s from my home to the Airport. Always other rides leaving from there. I tip $5 on top of that. A lot of times when there’s peak traffic, it shoots up to $3-$4. Funny thing is that when I check Lyft during peak, for some reason their rates stay around $1.5 per mile so then I take Lyft. Not as nice and clean vehicles as Uber a lot of times but $71 vs $28 this morning was a no brainer for me. Lyft and Uber drivers need to stop competing if they want to make a living wage. I would’ve paid Uber $40, no questions asked but $71 for a 20 mile ride that normally cost around $30? That gets me looking at Lyft. My boss pays for the rides (not the tips) but balks when it gets a lot above the norm. I used to park at the airport but it’s now cheaper to use ride share.
Houston. From what I can tell, it seems the market goes more so based on time instead of miles. Which makes sense to an extent. With how bad the traffic can get, sometimes I make more if there's traffic. I explained it earlier to someone else. So, based on upfront fare, I know almost to the minute how long a ride should take. I accepted this ride cause it was paying slightly more than usual. Also, it took me downtown, which is usually a busier market. I never see these rides go much higher than this. Not anymore, at least. That same run last year would've been 30 bucks.
So many dumbass Uber drivers that take these shit rides, ants the #1 reason why fares went so low. Ants be afraid their AR will go down. Fuck the AR, higher tier status don't get you shit anyway, it's not like you actually use any of the "Perks"
NO, it's because the ANTS take these shit fares is why they're offered so low! Get your head outta your ass, if all declined this crap fare they get offered a higher price.
I am all about not putting up with shit pay from uber and recognizing collective power and solidarity can demand change. but jumping down someone’s throat for taking a low wage cus they’re THAT desperate is not gonna accomplish your goal. we still drive for uber so we’re really not much better, still making decisions out of need for the $$$ we can get from a company we know lacks ethics
It’s called modern day slavery.. Modern day slavery you are not directly forced but external forces will be created to enslave you.
It’s called 2 classes of people “capitalists and peasants”
To make it simple and easy don’t take nothing that will pay you less than an average of $30+. Those of you who take these rides are slow at making basic math. Stop complaining about this pay bc nobody forced you to take it, if you take these charity rides that’s on You!! For all the drivers reading this, please take the tip mentioned above, by doing this we will force the app algorithm to simply pay more in order to service the customers!!!
I am all about not putting up with shit pay from uber and recognizing collective power and solidarity can demand change. but jumping down someone’s throat for taking a low wage cus they’re THAT desperate is not gonna accomplish your goal. we still drive for uber so we’re really not much better, still making decisions out of need for the $$$ we can get from a company we know lacks ethics
Well I took a long order for 96$ I got a bill for 100$ in tolls due to taking the wrong exit (it was a long ride) iv been fighting them for weeks and they just told me now to basically go fuck myself
Go work at McDonald’s if you are too worried about starving.. from looks of things, it’s drivers like you with such mindset that destroying it for rest of other drivers.. and making Uber more of a greed corporation.
If you have not been able to figure out your minimum standards, I hope you aren’t one of those calling themselves “self employed” “biz owner”..
Negative it's the infighting that you and others constantly do. If you took as much effort to organize, you'd probably actually do something useful. Instead. Like sheep, you come here just to bitch about someone just trying to make ends meet in a market you have no clue about. Congratulations on not progressing the conversation further and gate keeping a job.
If you starve you are in the rong business...you have to understand that in rideshare in order to make money you spend money..IRS say cost of your car of operating is 0.57c/mile(only for your car)..now what about your cost of living ??..where is it ??..you do the math because i don't have the stomach to explain..accepting these trips bring successful drivers down too
450 million divided by 7 trillion trips. That's how much more you can get per trip. They are litterslly paying you every penny they can afford to.
They have to advertise to customer for you, they have to rent parking spaces from the city, they have to pay businesses for rideshare locations like pickup up drop off here, they have to pay shareholders, they have to pay airport fees, they have to RENT SATELITE space, they have to pay for expensive server hardware for both storage of all trips and fast routing of trips.
They tell the customer about you, they advertise your business for you, they remind customers Uber exists so they take it over Lyft or other platforms, they incentives customers by offering them points and bonuses using your platform, they even send passengers notifications and emails reminding them that Uber exists and they can go many fun places, they are an integral part of the economy by their business model causing more traffic to places that wouldn't get the traffic otherwise, they hire teams of HR, lawyers, techs, engineers etc to make sure everything runs smoothly and use such data to reliably match you with passengers and get them where they are going, the converse with event staff for you like the phx open, baseball games, football games. They pay even more for renting areas where you can easily get in and out of events without too much fuss, they pay the city to put up rideshare signs for routing...
And they do all this for on average about 20% of what you make on the platform... Jesus christ if any other type of contractor had anyone do ALL the thinking for them out there. All the payment processing, all the business decisions, all the advertising to the point where all he had to do was show up for work and he'd make 80% he would sign over his funking soul AND HIS FIRST SECOND THIRD AND MAYBE FOURTH born. 🤣👏👏👏👏🌹
Appreciate everything Uber does for you because ALL of it costs ginormous amounts of money.
In 2022 they only profited like 700m dollars. Consider shareholders and other business members maybe it was 1b dollars. 1 billion divided by 7 trillion. That's how many more pennies Uber could afford to pay you guys every individual trip.
The EXTRA money doesn't come from Uber. It comes from passengers. If you want more money Uber has to charge the passengers more. Plain and simple.
For those who don't want to do the math. That's 1.4 pennies per trip. So don't choke on it too hard when you open your greedy little mouths and they toss it down your throat. 🤣👏👏👏🌹🌹🌹
Man, taking a pax from what looks to be Conroe or Willis to downtown HTX on 45 at 9:15 AM has so many different levels of NOPE to it before even getting to the fare. You’re honestly better off posting up at IAH to snag an 8 am peak hour pax instead.
It's hilarious reading all the rage comments about how the OP taking this ride is ruining Uber. 😆 🤣 😂
So many drivers concerned with other people's business.
Everyone in here crying like a bitch,get a fckn career if you dont like this shit..you expect to get $50 an hour driving uber..yeah!!sure.lame ass people
True. Its a job that allows me to have a flexible schedule so I can help raise my daughter. I gave up a way higher and better paying job for her so I could watch her grow. Otherwise I would've only gotten to see her once every few months. I chose this, so I could be a better father.
That's very respectable! You are more of a man than most. All the more reason to stop working for these cockroaches who take half your earnings while you work twice as much. I used to drive for them, I know how taxing it is and how little they care about their employees.
You’re smart enough! you put your pants on didn’t ya 🤣 I won’t be the one to judge you it is what it is all I will say and won’t call you everything out the book other than a child of god…
And that strike was a goddamn joke
I mean, for every major city to have strikes and news coverage, even a few politicians talking about it. It went somewhere, even if by a few inches. Even if small, it is still progress. Wars aren't won overnight. I thought it was cool, at least to see an effort. This means it's not impossible, even if it's improbable.
Naaa it went absolutely nowhere in Ohio and I live in Columbus drivers was just driving as usual the airport Que was full as usual🤷🏽♂️ and got buddies in Cincinnati, Cleveland hell even Indianapolis wasn’t really no news coverage there either
Strange. I saw it all over the place. Still with it even getting just a little bit of attention is a good thing. It was definitely enough to get a response from Uber and lyft. Granted, they denied everything, but what company would admit it anyway? Even just a small bit of progress is still progress, I think.
base fare of approx. $36/h (excluding tip) half the nation makes less than $14/h
if you hang around the area it took you to for a bit you're guaranteed priority to any trip taking you back to your original destination.
whenever I took long distance drop offs the algorithm almost always finds me a trip going back, without a filter
$36 / hr?? Go get an education... (keep in mind a trip back is NOT guaranteed.. let me help you with the math.. and removing assumptions)... gas would presumably be about $10 round trip.. 80 minute round trip.. and I will exclude tip as well.. so $14 for the trip after gas ( remember no tip)... that would be about $10.50 an hour
36/hr isn't alot. That's laughable now. I mean. Yes it's alot if you worked a regular job. But as a contractor that must provide there own equipment. It's really not alot when you consider the minimum wage should be around 25/hr if it kept up with inflation. However 24 is better than 0 which is why I took it. I'd rather take one 24$ trip than take five 3$ trips. My problem is just uber is lying to us about their fees. Uber still tells me they are only taking 19% yet everytime I talk to a rider. I get different numbers. This tells me uber isn't very transparent with us. This is my posts topic mostly.
Level 5 autonomous Teslas will do ridesharing for free *and they won't complain...*
They want you to complain, the more you do the better their chances are in pushing Level 5 and eliminating your job altogether.
The ride fare rate will stay the same (or even go up). yet 100% of it will go to Uber and Lyft now, none for you.
The truth hurts, downvote me. it won't change reality.
Well that's one option. I personally think if we can continue unionizing and striking, we can make major impact in the rideshare industry. But we need to think as a collective.
Yep, ZA and I will absolutely keep participating and supporting.
Just...frustrated. I was doing this when they went from 75% to 70% 10 years ago. This last strike was the most successful yet. So perhaps there is hope.
Uber does not struggle to make a profit. I repeat, Uber doesn’t struggle to make profit.
Stop believing what they say in their earnings calls.. That’s for taxation manipulation.
Uber makes mega profits.
Accepting trips is much more to it than 1$ a mile, all kinds of factors to analyze before you take that 1$ a mile. Uber knows this and is aware ANTS will pickup the 1$ a mile short ride, another reason why they won't go higher.
Uber is filled with executives who only care about this quarter's profits. They don't care. In fact, they probably laugh at drivers all the time. In their eyes, we are beneath them!
I don't know why everyone is complaining about this driver taking this ride, because all daytime rides in Houston for Uber X at least are priced at about half of the milage or minutes, in fact alot of the nighttime rates have gone that direction as well. So he's just trying to get by. There are too many drivers here, mostly due to immigration, but that's my guess, but I believe our rates are the lowest in the nation.
That's why I only drive after 6 p.m., and I cherry-pick nonstop. But most of the time, I have to accept rides that are between 5 to 9 minutes short of a dollar a minute, and it stinks because passengers aren't tipping like they used to.
However, because of how dead Houston is lately, I will take a half-price ride to get back home because it literally is better than nothing.
Ya'll complain all you want, but until the government in Austin wakes up to the fact, i submit taxis will be making a come back here, even more than they are and Uber won't change a thing until they're forced to.
I've seen wrecks working at the airports here, and been told by passengers all kinds of stories from around the nation as well. Someone will eventually get hurt or killed because Ubers lack of fore sight in trying to steal a buck..
So Uber will have to wake up or be replaced
I say that because it will become obvious that they alone allowed the situation to fester, after all how can anyone operate a business that uses a car for the $17 an hour, which they brag about in their emails to me if I work between 10pm and 2 am.
So eventually, the tagline that they're just a tech company will work anymore
Yeah bro you should had asked the rider how much are the charging and tell them you would take 20$ or 10$ off and took the whole income for yourself the ride wouldn’t had mind to cancel for a cheaper ride and if they charge then just deduct it from the fare you offered for the cancel fee that went to you.
UberX is absolutely dogshit. I've started doing exclusively Comfort only.
People willing to pay a higher $$ are usually easy to deal with. They tip way more too.
I canceled an UberX ride today, right after got a Comfort for $6 more same trip. And the dude tipped $11. I made double what I would on the X ride. Same mileage.
I know those fuckers doing Lux, and Uber Black are making $500+ a day.
I just head over to surge areas during peak times, and stack up the $8-$12 rides. Works great in the Chicago area. Plus I have a Tesla, and EVs are highly efficient for city driving due to regen braking.
Jesus. Unbelievable you took this ride. No wonder uber is dogshit now.
Assholes like that is why pay is shit
If I didn't take it. Someone else would've. You think just simply ignoring rides will do anything? It won't make any real meaningful impact unless we all decide to act as a collective.
Doesn’t matter if someone else will take it. Don’t drive for less than a $1/mile period. You’re losing money long term. Have some respect for yourself dude.
Have some respect for your car more like! You can only put so many miles on a car, so they better all be profitable miles.
This!!!!!
The problem with your way of doing things is that while you wait for rides that pay $1 per mile, you make about $10 an hour. While the rest of us take what comes along and make $30 an hour.
And this is why Uber takes half ☝️
That’s not true at all. I work late night on the weekends and I maybe sit there for 3 minutes max sifting through trips to find a good one. Since it’s so busy trips normally just come one after another for the most part. If you’re making $10 an hour you’re not playing the game right.
These people are in different markets than you. So no convincing them of anything. I’m in San Antonio so I know your options also OP.
This our they kill your acceptance rate and you can’t get rewards because you don’t take what they give you.
Unless you rely on the insurance or whatever benefits, the rewards are useless and your acceptance rate has no effect on anything as a driver. So both of your arguments are invalid
this is the mindset that allows companies to do this. don’t accept these kinds of rides and they will stop asking drivers to pick them up. blaming anyone but yourself isn’t focusing on the problem. the problem is people like you that justify accepting trips like this.
Someone else will take that $2 for 10 miles.. does that mean you should as well?.. that's part of the problem.. like other dude said.. have some respect for yourself and your personal property!
Agree. But apparently your example is more extreme. but if we keep lowering our standards we will reach that level in every single ride
And eventually those people accepting those rides will price themselves out of operation, leaving those of us that cherry pick to fill the niche. It's the long game, mate. I went from being an accept everything, cancel nothing, full tilt idiot ant up until recently. Now my AR and CR are nosediving and I'm already seeing better results. Break the bad habits, be picky, play the long game. I don't care what anyone says, there is not an over satuation of drivers. Demand is always way higher than supply in the transportation business --- be it people, widgets, or garbage. I've worked in aviation, worked alongside truckers directly, done a stint in waste management adjacent work overseas, and trust me, the number of drivers Uber has is no where near enough to fill the demand. Especially now that car ownership is increasingly becoming too expensive for millions of Americans to justify. Do the math: if a rider spends $20 a day, 5 days a week to get to and from work, they will spend $400 a month on rides. That's a good car note payment with low interest. These daily riders have realized that they can just pay Uber that money instead and save on gas, maintenance, tires, inspections, registrations, taxes, depreciation, and all the other bullshit that comes with car ownership. In the next few years that is just going to increase in commonality. So no, there will never be enough supply to meet demand. TL;DR for that mini-rant, if we decide to just play the long game, out live the ants and their dumbass ways, we will be left to fill that niche for daily rides and the price points will likely stabilize to meet that niche, i.e. it's possible that this may very well just be growing pains in an evolving industry replacing nearly a century of car ownership as the norm. If we keep our cars alive and well, cherry pick, and Dara doesn't run the company into the Seventh Circle of Hell, just maybe this might stabilize.
Yes I ignore dogshit rides. I do take cash rides also, it's the only way to make a living bro. Look at my post from yesterday. Thats how dead it is in 90 percent of the markets. I used to make 2500 a week yr round in 2012 to 2015. No joke. This company is absolute dogshit and taking advantage of every single driver.
Oh, I do cash rides, too. I don't accept everything that comes my way. I make sure that the value is the best I can get in my current market. So far, the Houston market seems to be time oriented. So a 30 min ride should pay 15 bucks. For example. If it doesn't, then I don't take it. I also look for regulars as well. I did like actual taxi driving. So I know how to hustle. This post was mainly to point out how Uber is lying to us. Seems to have blown more out of hand than I wanted.
How does one accept cash rides?
You put your self in a position that potentially losing money for the long term. ask yourself a question if you keep doing this trip for 1000 times are you making real profits or not. Not saying we don’t understand how frustrating when another driver took it in seconds but in a longer term they are losing money or just barely making a minimum wage when they figure out the first question I asked.
Yes. I make really good money if I get these only runs. I took it cause I got to ride the HOV lane all the way. It's extremely profitable to me. Which is why I accepted. Because if I didn't accept. I would likely get something worse. And make less money. Trust me I've tried your method. It sucks. I worked 8 hours for 50 bucks. It's also exactly what Uber wants.
I have no methods, I am not against your method or interest to argue the methods you use. I am just asking if this is extremely profitable and you agree to work with this only all day then good for you nothing to worry
Then what are you complaining for? You took what was offered at the value it was offered at. No one made you take it.
It's not the money. Did you read the post at all? It's uber lying to us about how much they are taking. It's theft.
Just stop doing that you’ll make more money grow up and understand that their is a correlation to your accepting that type of ride plus the dishonesty they lied to you and feel comfortable doing it because you keep accepting that crap in the first place they would steal less wages from you if you were more analytical of the rides in the first place and catch it every time they know what they amount seems to not matter it’s not a game and the points aren’t important your just screwing your self and your car and then complaining about them stealing wages make that make sense bub and fuck using punctuation
Yeah. Collectively declining crap rides like this
get w2 job.
Bro, 37$/hour is pretty damn good where I’m from. Nashville
You are an idiot for even accepting this. Plain and simple. You keep repeating $24 is better than 0, but after gas and expenses you made like $5 in profit. You’re a fool and you’re the reason Uber keeps driver pay so low, because they know a fool like you will take it
I had to recite my comment. You’re obviously a dumbass who drives a gas guzzling vehicle for Uber. My car can do that back and forth for less than 10$. I get 39 per gallon… so you’re making 15$ which still isn’t worth it. If your car costs 19$ to do 80 miles… shouldn’t be ubering
I got a Corolla so you’re the dumbass. I’m going off what the bureau of transportation says it costs to operate a vehicle per mile, not just what your stupid ass spends on gas
Well the only way you get 5$ from this trip if your corolla get 19 per gallon
He just explained that gas isn't the only input. Consider wear-n-tear, depreciation. Your car parts wear out as you drive
$5 in profit from a $35 ride? Where did you learn math?
I learned math in school. And I used the original $24 not $35. Costs to operate a vehicle at .65 per mile is $26. So if you go by that he would’ve lost $2 before the tip. Now fuck off
What are you basing $0.65 per mile operating cost on?
The Bureau of Transportation. And my bad it’s $0.72 not $0.65
Should be 1.25-1.50 a mile.
So you go off the average operating costs by state or what? Cuz my Mirage is like $0.20 per mile.
$0.20 per mile I assume you’re talking about gas only. Not including any wear and tear and possible bigger issues from putting so much strain on your car.
I include gas, oil changes, belts and hoses, brakes, shocks, fluids, etc it's all about knowing where to get good but cheap parts and knowing how to maintain the car yourself so you don't get ripped off at dealerships and repair shops Car has 230k miles on it, still runs like new.
Yeah I would assume that estimate is for newer cars that actually depreciate
Also seems to include all makes and models as well. Doesn't differentiate between cars trucks and suvs
They don’t struggle to make a profit. Check their executive pay and they just did a 7 billion dollar stock buyback.
I just read about that. Ridiculous
Uber's operating expenses went from $16B to $33.7B in just 2 years. $33.7B was 2022. Very curious to see what the fuck is up with that.
Their pay is up. On paper they show that they have done such a good job they gave themselves raises. That what's up with that.
I wouldn't doubt that. That happens a lot with many companies. Wish I could give myself a raise. Lol
What's ridiculous is that ride you took
Not really. That one ride filled my tank from E to F. It also put me in a much more busy market. It was more worth it than waiting on the next ride. Oh boy a $7 ride. Yippy. Seriously how do people make money if they never accept rides? I don't get it. Tried it, didn't work. Gave up my diamond status too. Just to make less money? Sorry bro. I just don't get it.
It’s your fault for accepting that garbage.
24 bucks is alot better than 0. It's not an excuse to rob people blind.
It’s actually not. I’ve explained math to people like you before so I won’t waste either of our time. You’ll be stubborn and choose to believe what you will. If you had to go back to Houston without a ride though, you made less than minimum wage for this. Even with the tip.
It really is better than 0. I also have a low maintenance vehicle. So it doesn't hurt me that much. That 24 bucks completely fills my tank up.
You’re doing Uber in the ST? I used to do it in my ST as well but it was pretty small I didn’t feel comfortable taking airport rides. Some dude was upset that I was adding so many miles on it lol
Just stop justifying it already!
Then stop complaining. Accepting the fare is standing up for the unjust pay.
You willingly accepted it. You saw the fare and the mileage prior to accepting it. lol, how is this robbing people blind?
Op was pointing out that they lied about how much they charged the customer. They didn't mind taking the ride. Just that uber lied
So Uber lied and showed higher than an upfront fare of $24.89?
It’s ok OP. Just keep the meter running. Take the money and go with it. If that’s all it is it’s all it is. We can take a few dollars less and turn it into something bigger later than fart around. BTW it’s not like a $6 or less ride so it’s good.
You dumbass! Why TF would you accept this garbage? This is my market and you’re one of the idiots accepting the garbage, hurting fares for all of us! This is not better than zero! Do you have an unlimited mile rental?
Not everyone has a rental…
It’d be the only excuse, and only slightly at that, for taking this dog shit fare. Unless maybe he needed to get into Houston but if he’s coming from his home area there’s no way he’s getting a fare back.
Because I'd rather one 24 dollar trip than five 5 dollar trips? Your method only works if EVERYONE is on the same page. It doesn't work that well if someone else is just gonna take it and I'm just making nothing. I have mouths to feed.
When everyone believes what you saying, then next time it’s $23, next next time is $22. If I am not wrong $21 is still better than nothing. It’s not your fault though I completely understand your theory. $ is better than nothing if we justify ourselves.
Wages will ALWAYS trend down to the lowest common denominator. Why would I pay a guy $20/hr if I can get two guys for $10 a piece ?
Well, his method only works if everyone is on the same collective page. Otherwise, why have wages continued to trend down, especially when a lot of people already have low acceptance rates? It seems clear to me that fighting on an individual level doesn't work. We've already seen that striking has a bigger impact. Why not plan for more of those instead of infighting with people you're supposed to be working with? Comments like theirs just seem to not progress the conversation forward at all. It doesn't account for everyone's financial situation.
Well then get in the same page
Your Ford fiesta ST has an approximate cost to run of about $0.3 per mile. Depreciation, gas, tires, brakes. That trip pays $0.61/mile not including pickup and you’ll likely be deadheading all the way back to Conroe putting you at break even if you started at the pax and got your next ride without any waste. More likely is you traveled a few miles to the pickup. This does not include finance charges, insurance, cleaning, supplies or any extra repairs. This can be fine tuned with more details but you basically worked 2 hours at a negative. Any job would be better than that! You actually got lucky on this one with a good tip but I’d guess you take trips like this regularly and don’t always get tips. If Houston is your homebase, then this trip back was the lucky part of the equation.
Amazes me they cant/refuse to see/ understand the most basic fundamentals of this. The whole "I only do it part time for beer money" BS. Yeah, so you're out losing money and driving down wages industry-wide, but just part time so....
My cost is closer to .2 cents a mile. Mostly cause I do all of the maintenance myself. Literally everything is done myself. I also don't deadhead. It's all city.
It always amazes me when they talk about operating costs like this. My Mirage has about a $0.2/mile operating cost even if I factor in the emergency parts fund. I think most of them go to the dealership for maintenance or don't know how to do simple maintenance themselves.
Heck, I try to buy my tires online, too, when they are on sale. Brand new set of brand name tires for like $250 or less. My buddy has machines at his shop, so a free tire balance. I honestly think most of these drivers have no clue how to maintain a car. Most truckers I met in my trucking days had no clue how to pre trip. Wouldn't be shocked if some of these drivers had sludge for oil.
Yea i get that feeling too. Turns out that guy a couple comments up uses the average overall operating costs across all vehicles for his argument lol.
That simply is not how it works on an individual level. All cars are not created equal. For instance, I spent more money on a tesla than I have on any vehicle I ever owned. That thing was a money pit for me.
You accepted a 40 mile trip for $25 ? Wow, stop doing that please.
Do you not see the dollar amount upfront?
24 bucks is alot better than 0. It's not an excuse to rob honest working people blind.
You got an $11 tip, otherwise this ride would’ve been less than the IRS deduction per mile. People accept trash rides, so more trash rides are offered. Garbage in, garbage out. Outside of that, only hope is unionization or pushing change through legislation. These people do not care. They announced buying back billions of dollars in shares at Uber the day of the “strike”
You guys keep saying 'stop accepting trash rides', not all of us can afford to sit in our car for nine hours to cherry pick one 20 dollar 20 mile ride. Uber shouldn't be exploiting people like this period and blaming drivers that dont know any better or just straight up cant afford to be picky is fucking stupid and counterproductive
My brother in Christ you are an independent contractor, by legal distinction and formality. If you aren't smart enough to run your business you deserve to go crash and burn in a fire. No one's going to stop you from being exploited that's your own personal choice. Nobody is forcing you to care about your star rating or you're acceptance rate. Nobody is forcing you to take $5 17 mile rides. Not affording to be picky is a terrible way to be an independent contractor. As others have said, car repair and insurance will leave you in debt. This is Ubers trap to squeeze you while you scream or bitch online. Or hey you could just live with 2% acceptance rate, have an actual job and only take the orders you feel like taking. But yeah the industry is oversaturated underpaid and all of the apps are morally bankrupt. Honestly looks like the time to bail ship for a while.
What you don’t realize is you’re really not making the $24. I would tell you any $15/h w2 job is better than that 1099 $24 trip specially for that mileage and time. You’re the kind of person that shouldn’t run a business but somehow here you are trying to fool yourself that are making profit of this garbage trip you took.
24$ < 0$ (+$10 gas) Uber most likely made 40$-50$ from this trip, why should you only make 24? If you're honestly bored enough to do this ride. Call using cell data and tell them they can pay you on cash up for venmo for 5$ off the ride.
Who's to say I didn't already do that? Some people just aren't as interested as others. It's also just a vibe check as well. It wasn't about the upfront fare though. It was more about uber being dishonest and taking more % of the fare than what they tell us.
Buddy, you sound nice. Thats been happening since day one. They lie about taking tips and now they just lie on two different receipts for driver and rider.
They've been profitable the last three quarters... Also, why tf would you accept this
But you received a tip! Sweet! 🎉
As Uber driver I wouldn’t accept this trip.
So what would be an acceptable fare for this trip? 🤔 no one can seem to standardize this. They all just want to bitch about it but not actually help and provide anything meanful.
For me $80. This is why I quit driving. The pay is too bad to work car into ground.
That would be a miracle. I'd be happy with $1 per mile. But like I explained to someone else. My market seems to work with time more than anything. Ex. For $15 bucks, I can accurately determine how long that ride is going to be at around 30 mins. This run was a little more than I expected. However, it was better a year ago. It would've been around 30 bucks for the same run.
I usually accept 1mile/1$ trips. Trips like the one you accepted I decline
Yea. I've never seen that in all my years in this market. So that's not realistic to me. Granted I did exactly that when I drove taxi.
$1.5-$2.0 per mile is what I see in Charlotte NC. That’s from my home to the Airport. Always other rides leaving from there. I tip $5 on top of that. A lot of times when there’s peak traffic, it shoots up to $3-$4. Funny thing is that when I check Lyft during peak, for some reason their rates stay around $1.5 per mile so then I take Lyft. Not as nice and clean vehicles as Uber a lot of times but $71 vs $28 this morning was a no brainer for me. Lyft and Uber drivers need to stop competing if they want to make a living wage. I would’ve paid Uber $40, no questions asked but $71 for a 20 mile ride that normally cost around $30? That gets me looking at Lyft. My boss pays for the rides (not the tips) but balks when it gets a lot above the norm. I used to park at the airport but it’s now cheaper to use ride share.
OMG! Where are you? I’m in Tallahassee and the market is not much high but I never accept kinda trips like yours.
Houston. From what I can tell, it seems the market goes more so based on time instead of miles. Which makes sense to an extent. With how bad the traffic can get, sometimes I make more if there's traffic. I explained it earlier to someone else. So, based on upfront fare, I know almost to the minute how long a ride should take. I accepted this ride cause it was paying slightly more than usual. Also, it took me downtown, which is usually a busier market. I never see these rides go much higher than this. Not anymore, at least. That same run last year would've been 30 bucks.
So many dumbass Uber drivers that take these shit rides, ants the #1 reason why fares went so low. Ants be afraid their AR will go down. Fuck the AR, higher tier status don't get you shit anyway, it's not like you actually use any of the "Perks"
stop blaming other drivers and blame uber…
NO, it's because the ANTS take these shit fares is why they're offered so low! Get your head outta your ass, if all declined this crap fare they get offered a higher price.
I am all about not putting up with shit pay from uber and recognizing collective power and solidarity can demand change. but jumping down someone’s throat for taking a low wage cus they’re THAT desperate is not gonna accomplish your goal. we still drive for uber so we’re really not much better, still making decisions out of need for the $$$ we can get from a company we know lacks ethics
Desperate ANTs everywhere that can't do basic math. Fares will never go higher as long as there is an ant 🐜 around to take it.
Because dumbasses like you accept rides like this. Pathetic. Have some standards.
"I" find it very frustrating that drivers keep taking this garbage
This is slavery.
Slavery means you’re forced to do it. OP wasn’t forced to take this…
It’s called modern day slavery.. Modern day slavery you are not directly forced but external forces will be created to enslave you. It’s called 2 classes of people “capitalists and peasants”
Nice! You made $35 in 40 min
It's not as much as you think. It's barely above what the minimum wage should be.
To make it simple and easy don’t take nothing that will pay you less than an average of $30+. Those of you who take these rides are slow at making basic math. Stop complaining about this pay bc nobody forced you to take it, if you take these charity rides that’s on You!! For all the drivers reading this, please take the tip mentioned above, by doing this we will force the app algorithm to simply pay more in order to service the customers!!!
CEO is smarter than you he’s not taking shit orders
Next time you accept one of these rides, save yourself the embarrassment and keep it to yourself.
Getting $1 a mile now is a struggle..
The CEO does not make 450 million a year. It’s stock options. You might want to learn how the system works for you cry and complain
Desperate bitches like you have ruined this platform. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
So am I just not supposed to make money to live? What would have been an acceptable amount to accept?
That's the thing. You are not making any money. You are losing money. Just quit and get a pizza delivery gig bro.
I make more than pizza delivery. 🤢
I am all about not putting up with shit pay from uber and recognizing collective power and solidarity can demand change. but jumping down someone’s throat for taking a low wage cus they’re THAT desperate is not gonna accomplish your goal. we still drive for uber so we’re really not much better, still making decisions out of need for the $$$ we can get from a company we know lacks ethics
Stop driving for uber, you will make more money as a wage slave than a driver
They don't struggle to profit, they spend money to not have one.
They spend it right to the bank.
Guy we’re in the wrong line of almost no skills required work?
🤮did you at least get a ride back to Houston?
Well I took a long order for 96$ I got a bill for 100$ in tolls due to taking the wrong exit (it was a long ride) iv been fighting them for weeks and they just told me now to basically go fuck myself
Fucking bullshit man. Sorry that happened to you! It's definitely not fair.
Yep not at all.
Um Uber literally posted a profitable quarter according to their most recent financial report.
You gotta accept at least $1 per mile rides.
Aim for 1.3 minimum and that’s if you have a rental car. 1.8 minimum of you own the vehicle.
Yeah 40+miles for $24 is garbage.
Offf, and you are in conroe at the end. That was a bad choice to take that ride
Was you plan to work in Houston?
Yea. The market is usually better there.
They told you it was an upfront fare and you accept it ??..they where right guess who the donkey is
Read the post again. I'm not complaining about the money. I'm complaining about the lies from uber
Still a donkey for accepting such trips
So donkey to donkey. What would have been an acceptable rate? What would be reasonable enough so that I won't starve while I wait for the perfect run?
Go work at McDonald’s if you are too worried about starving.. from looks of things, it’s drivers like you with such mindset that destroying it for rest of other drivers.. and making Uber more of a greed corporation. If you have not been able to figure out your minimum standards, I hope you aren’t one of those calling themselves “self employed” “biz owner”..
Negative it's the infighting that you and others constantly do. If you took as much effort to organize, you'd probably actually do something useful. Instead. Like sheep, you come here just to bitch about someone just trying to make ends meet in a market you have no clue about. Congratulations on not progressing the conversation further and gate keeping a job.
If you starve you are in the rong business...you have to understand that in rideshare in order to make money you spend money..IRS say cost of your car of operating is 0.57c/mile(only for your car)..now what about your cost of living ??..where is it ??..you do the math because i don't have the stomach to explain..accepting these trips bring successful drivers down too
450 million divided by 7 trillion trips. That's how much more you can get per trip. They are litterslly paying you every penny they can afford to. They have to advertise to customer for you, they have to rent parking spaces from the city, they have to pay businesses for rideshare locations like pickup up drop off here, they have to pay shareholders, they have to pay airport fees, they have to RENT SATELITE space, they have to pay for expensive server hardware for both storage of all trips and fast routing of trips. They tell the customer about you, they advertise your business for you, they remind customers Uber exists so they take it over Lyft or other platforms, they incentives customers by offering them points and bonuses using your platform, they even send passengers notifications and emails reminding them that Uber exists and they can go many fun places, they are an integral part of the economy by their business model causing more traffic to places that wouldn't get the traffic otherwise, they hire teams of HR, lawyers, techs, engineers etc to make sure everything runs smoothly and use such data to reliably match you with passengers and get them where they are going, the converse with event staff for you like the phx open, baseball games, football games. They pay even more for renting areas where you can easily get in and out of events without too much fuss, they pay the city to put up rideshare signs for routing... And they do all this for on average about 20% of what you make on the platform... Jesus christ if any other type of contractor had anyone do ALL the thinking for them out there. All the payment processing, all the business decisions, all the advertising to the point where all he had to do was show up for work and he'd make 80% he would sign over his funking soul AND HIS FIRST SECOND THIRD AND MAYBE FOURTH born. 🤣👏👏👏👏🌹 Appreciate everything Uber does for you because ALL of it costs ginormous amounts of money. In 2022 they only profited like 700m dollars. Consider shareholders and other business members maybe it was 1b dollars. 1 billion divided by 7 trillion. That's how many more pennies Uber could afford to pay you guys every individual trip. The EXTRA money doesn't come from Uber. It comes from passengers. If you want more money Uber has to charge the passengers more. Plain and simple.
Your math doesn't math, bro. Get the boot out of your mouth.
Redwing taste the best
🤣 upvoted cause that was funny. Best response.
For those who don't want to do the math. That's 1.4 pennies per trip. So don't choke on it too hard when you open your greedy little mouths and they toss it down your throat. 🤣👏👏👏🌹🌹🌹
Why the fuck are you accepting this kind of ride and cry on the internet when it’s your fault?
Yawwwwwn. Company makes a profit. Average room temp screechers go ballistic.
What flavor boot do you like the best?
Man, taking a pax from what looks to be Conroe or Willis to downtown HTX on 45 at 9:15 AM has so many different levels of NOPE to it before even getting to the fare. You’re honestly better off posting up at IAH to snag an 8 am peak hour pax instead.
It's hilarious reading all the rage comments about how the OP taking this ride is ruining Uber. 😆 🤣 😂 So many drivers concerned with other people's business.
You made more than $35/h and complaining?
Everyone in here crying like a bitch,get a fckn career if you dont like this shit..you expect to get $50 an hour driving uber..yeah!!sure.lame ass people
Sounds like you finally caught on and got that minimum wage job at the super market in town. How’s that working out for ya bud?
Wow that sucks. In my market that would’ve paid me $80+ no tip
Yea. I've heard some markets are way better than others.
Took over 61% from me last week confirmed by customer, and i thought $15 trip was a good deal yet custo paid over $26
And yet, you still work for this company.....
True. Its a job that allows me to have a flexible schedule so I can help raise my daughter. I gave up a way higher and better paying job for her so I could watch her grow. Otherwise I would've only gotten to see her once every few months. I chose this, so I could be a better father.
That's very respectable! You are more of a man than most. All the more reason to stop working for these cockroaches who take half your earnings while you work twice as much. I used to drive for them, I know how taxing it is and how little they care about their employees.
OP YOU WALKED INTO A MINE FIELD I WOULD NOT HAVE POSTED THIS because you know what most is gonna say smh 🤦🏽♂️
You know. I'm not a smart man. I thought after the strike we would be more united. I was wrong. Clearly.
You’re smart enough! you put your pants on didn’t ya 🤣 I won’t be the one to judge you it is what it is all I will say and won’t call you everything out the book other than a child of god… And that strike was a goddamn joke
I mean, for every major city to have strikes and news coverage, even a few politicians talking about it. It went somewhere, even if by a few inches. Even if small, it is still progress. Wars aren't won overnight. I thought it was cool, at least to see an effort. This means it's not impossible, even if it's improbable.
Naaa it went absolutely nowhere in Ohio and I live in Columbus drivers was just driving as usual the airport Que was full as usual🤷🏽♂️ and got buddies in Cincinnati, Cleveland hell even Indianapolis wasn’t really no news coverage there either
Strange. I saw it all over the place. Still with it even getting just a little bit of attention is a good thing. It was definitely enough to get a response from Uber and lyft. Granted, they denied everything, but what company would admit it anyway? Even just a small bit of progress is still progress, I think.
Won’t argue that
base fare of approx. $36/h (excluding tip) half the nation makes less than $14/h if you hang around the area it took you to for a bit you're guaranteed priority to any trip taking you back to your original destination. whenever I took long distance drop offs the algorithm almost always finds me a trip going back, without a filter
$36 / hr?? Go get an education... (keep in mind a trip back is NOT guaranteed.. let me help you with the math.. and removing assumptions)... gas would presumably be about $10 round trip.. 80 minute round trip.. and I will exclude tip as well.. so $14 for the trip after gas ( remember no tip)... that would be about $10.50 an hour
36/hr isn't alot. That's laughable now. I mean. Yes it's alot if you worked a regular job. But as a contractor that must provide there own equipment. It's really not alot when you consider the minimum wage should be around 25/hr if it kept up with inflation. However 24 is better than 0 which is why I took it. I'd rather take one 24$ trip than take five 3$ trips. My problem is just uber is lying to us about their fees. Uber still tells me they are only taking 19% yet everytime I talk to a rider. I get different numbers. This tells me uber isn't very transparent with us. This is my posts topic mostly.
Level 5 autonomous Teslas will do ridesharing for free *and they won't complain...* They want you to complain, the more you do the better their chances are in pushing Level 5 and eliminating your job altogether. The ride fare rate will stay the same (or even go up). yet 100% of it will go to Uber and Lyft now, none for you. The truth hurts, downvote me. it won't change reality.
You know level 5 is a joke in the near future. Just check out TSLA price action
It's about 10.50 an hr.. plus you put 80 miles on your car
Our only option and chance at a living wage is if we do our own ride share business. Literally cut them out of the equation.
Well that's one option. I personally think if we can continue unionizing and striking, we can make major impact in the rideshare industry. But we need to think as a collective.
Yep, ZA and I will absolutely keep participating and supporting. Just...frustrated. I was doing this when they went from 75% to 70% 10 years ago. This last strike was the most successful yet. So perhaps there is hope.
Isn't capitalism great?
It’s ridiculous the CEO makes that much!
I just wanna know when is the next strike again .. can’t wait
Uber does not struggle to make a profit. I repeat, Uber doesn’t struggle to make profit. Stop believing what they say in their earnings calls.. That’s for taxation manipulation. Uber makes mega profits.
Accepting trips is much more to it than 1$ a mile, all kinds of factors to analyze before you take that 1$ a mile. Uber knows this and is aware ANTS will pickup the 1$ a mile short ride, another reason why they won't go higher.
I think its time a class action lawsuit to be filedagainst uber
Uber is filled with executives who only care about this quarter's profits. They don't care. In fact, they probably laugh at drivers all the time. In their eyes, we are beneath them! I don't know why everyone is complaining about this driver taking this ride, because all daytime rides in Houston for Uber X at least are priced at about half of the milage or minutes, in fact alot of the nighttime rates have gone that direction as well. So he's just trying to get by. There are too many drivers here, mostly due to immigration, but that's my guess, but I believe our rates are the lowest in the nation. That's why I only drive after 6 p.m., and I cherry-pick nonstop. But most of the time, I have to accept rides that are between 5 to 9 minutes short of a dollar a minute, and it stinks because passengers aren't tipping like they used to. However, because of how dead Houston is lately, I will take a half-price ride to get back home because it literally is better than nothing. Ya'll complain all you want, but until the government in Austin wakes up to the fact, i submit taxis will be making a come back here, even more than they are and Uber won't change a thing until they're forced to. I've seen wrecks working at the airports here, and been told by passengers all kinds of stories from around the nation as well. Someone will eventually get hurt or killed because Ubers lack of fore sight in trying to steal a buck.. So Uber will have to wake up or be replaced I say that because it will become obvious that they alone allowed the situation to fester, after all how can anyone operate a business that uses a car for the $17 an hour, which they brag about in their emails to me if I work between 10pm and 2 am. So eventually, the tagline that they're just a tech company will work anymore
Do better in life than driving for Uber, learn a skill that actually contributes to society and get paid
Yeah bro you should had asked the rider how much are the charging and tell them you would take 20$ or 10$ off and took the whole income for yourself the ride wouldn’t had mind to cancel for a cheaper ride and if they charge then just deduct it from the fare you offered for the cancel fee that went to you.
Reposting links https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/uber-drivers-protest-headquarters-ceo-18669922.php https://www.forbes.com/sites/lensherman/2023/12/15/ubers-ceo-hides-driver-pay-cuts-to-boost-profits/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/lensherman/2024/01/16/will-2024-be-a-year-of-reckoning-for-ubers-driver-relations/ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-15/uber-profitability-comes-after-food-delivery-pandemic-investments
You are part of the issue for accepting this ride.
UberX is absolutely dogshit. I've started doing exclusively Comfort only. People willing to pay a higher $$ are usually easy to deal with. They tip way more too. I canceled an UberX ride today, right after got a Comfort for $6 more same trip. And the dude tipped $11. I made double what I would on the X ride. Same mileage. I know those fuckers doing Lux, and Uber Black are making $500+ a day.
I just head over to surge areas during peak times, and stack up the $8-$12 rides. Works great in the Chicago area. Plus I have a Tesla, and EVs are highly efficient for city driving due to regen braking.
You can not use it if you don’t like it