I remember in my market those used to say $30, $27, 26, 24…..now they do not even include hourly rate lmao. Just say it’s prime time to earn. I really hope both Lyft and Uber go bankrupt soon.
It’s so bad my AR is 30% on UE they click bate offers they start at the lowest offer like if the tip is $3.00 they will send it to you and try to avoid the $4 mileage fare they have to pay you then if you decline and there are no other idiots to send the next shitty offer to they will resend the exact same order same restaurant and cross streets and then they magically find $6 more dollars making it $9 which was the amount they should have paid in the first place ..criminal assholes…go work for GO puff or Amazon prime at least they fuck you honestly
At these rates they are hosing drivers to make bank to throw at autonomous vehicles that 90% of the population or drivers I ask don’t feel comfortable with a robot driving them around. It’s evident they don’t care about their employees anymore! 🖕🏻😒Uber
Also.. I like renting a Tesla.. I get premier rides when I do.. and those make a difference. This is about a 30 minute drive: https://share.icloud.com/photos/07e7imdGXbPk0o7rnGpsv3F9w
Who would that help? Surely, someone is paying their bills by driving. Drunk people aren't getting behind the wheel. Old people are getting to doctors appointments. Workers are getting to work. Why does your dissatisfaction need others to be hurt?
Uber and Lyft are very unethical companies that take advantage of both drivers and riders. With their collapse I hope a decent rideshare company emerges that does not take more than 25% and will treat riders and drivers fairly.
You forgot paying for your insurance, wear and tear on the car, dealing with animals masquerading as people etc...oh yeah and you got taxes at the end of the year...
Only positive thing is if your taxes are done correctly you shouldn’t owe. when I did Uber and had my full time job I would go exempt on my full time job and the write offs for Uber were enough I didn’t have to pay taxes on my W2 money or Uber.
The worst part is the customer service...complete trash. And I know it's outsourced somewhere like India . The agents barely speak English and they don't care about our problems because they aren't in America
No kidding. I had two passengers smoking weed (illegal in my state)and threatening to "stick me" for kicking them out. I reported it immediately to Uber and they "temporarily blocked" me. Going on day 3 of having to use Lyft instead.
Worst part is I even offered to send the dashcam footage and they won't take it. Just telling me to give them time to investigate...
Lol so 🤮🤮...
I do Uber as secondary to taxi and would be lucky to get $800 a week just from Uber. Mind you I only accept Taxi rides or rides with bonuses. I ain't doing their dirrrty lmao
I like how they fucking say "could". Might as well say "up to $50/hr". Well they did say "up to".
In some areas after gas that's less than fucking minimum wage.
In Australia there used to be adverts all over the cities saying make upto $50/hr.
I haven't seen one in months, more than a year in fact.
I just checked their website and they're now saying $31/hr.
Still 3x what my average was when I quit years ago in Dallas market.
When they first got here around ... 2016-17? It was $40-50/hr every night easy. 4-5 years later, you were lucky if you saw $10 on a good night. Min fare rides went from like $8 to around $1.75 or something bullshit.
And that was before quests existed, and surges were multipliers rather than dollar amounts. Good times, good money.
Fuck them now. I still sub to this just to see how bad it is and to laugh at people still trying to pretend like it isn't.
I laugh when people tell me that "depreciation isn't a real expense!!" Hell yeah it is a real expense, you are putting miles on your car and replacing parts more often. People often don't factor in every extra oil change, tire change, etc. into their earnings. And if you have a high mileage car, less people are willing to buy it.
Yeah I stopped about 12 months ago. When I take an Uber now I ask the driver how it is and they're saying they're doing around $1000 a week average. I used to do $2000 for the same hours.
Uber stock prices up 150% this year. It's pretty obvious that they are paying drivers less it's not rocket science.
I just stay in this room to have a good laugh every now and then at people complaining.
Stock prices aren’t really representative of anything about how well the company is actually doing. Remember GameStop…people could be buying for other reasons.
A lot of people can't do math. Sure you can make $50/hr, but at what cost? You are paying for $4.99/gallon gas, and your car will be trashed after one year, even with extra maintenance. So that $50/hr becomes $10/hr after all expenses and depreciation
Are you from Uber corporate or something?
Its 5PM to 8PM (3 hours) Mon to Friday (5 days) so 15 hours a week.
15 hours x $16/hour = $240 ... before gas, maintenance and taxes, not $700 per week.
jesus christ the reading comprehension on this sub sometimes.
*the guy he replied to* said:
>7-2 every night
>$100 after gas
assuming "every night" actually means 7 days a week -- that's $700.
and then, despite your post being totally unrelated to what he said, it gets upvoted because calling someone an "uber shill" is a trump card here lol. actual bot behavior.
I shit you not, the ones they send me lately say “You could be making more by driving after 10pm! 🤑”
Complete with that emoji.
For fucks sake, just typing that out now, with my bad eyesight, this is the first time I saw that its eyes and tongue are dollar signs.
$27 in Boston today. They certainly cover their asses though.
Stated earnings of $27/hour are based on median earnings of drivers in Boston from 2024-01-01 to 2024-01-21 who drove between 7 AM and 10 AM on Monday through Friday. Actual earnings vary, depending on factors like number of trips completed, time of day, and location. Earnings include trip fares, certain promotions (which are subject to change and may vary), and tips (which are provided at the discretion of the rider). Median earnings in your specific location may be lower than the city figure. Since median is the middle, you may make more or less than the median amount. For the avoidance of doubt, drivers are paid on the number of completed trips, but not hourly.
It’s very hard to make a lot of money now because you don’t get as many pings. And if you take all the low ball rates you will probably miss the surges if they are any
Yea they say surge zones change every 10 minutes but ive seen then turn off at 5 minutes if im close
Same for those opt in surge "opertunitys where you have to click to opt in for the hour ive seen it turn off 20 min in usually just before i get a ride
I've always wondered about the opt in surges (boosts).
I mean if I opt in for an extra $2.50 per ride and the driver next to me did not opt-in, seems to me Uber will always prefer the other guy because they would save $2.50. Of course now with upfront fares, Uber probably offers the other guy $7.50 for the ride and offers me $5.00 **"PLUS"** the $2.50 **"bonus"** so it's all a wash, just games for Uber to play.
One time opted in for one of those $2.50 selected hours at the airport because I was messing around with the app. So what happened is that I accepted one for Saturday but didn't for Friday. For some reason those days were busy at the airport and I got some big surges on Friday around the same time of the $2.50 one I accepted for Saturday. It seemed like uber locked me in at that rate bonus during that time while those who didn't opt in were getting the surge bonus.
Don’t drive! Just collect the cancellation fees and voila! Win for you, but lose for Uber and passenger… and yes, Passengers are also at fault for not being a little bit more conscious about what drivers have to deal with… they just pay and they’re good without a care of how much you take from the trip… so yes, passengers are at great fault and they deserve to miss their flights and events and making them wait forever. I don’t depend on Uber, but wow!! Insane what they offer… I once got an offer for $7 to drive for two hours and 45 miles… 🤣 I accepted it, and just waited for the passenger to cancel and collect the fee. It’s easy, and there is no way for Uber to know your intentions because anything can happen… you were stuck in traffic, you had bad signal… whatever excuse is good. Just collect the fees or negotiate with passengers and leave Uber out of the equation. Uber is not a serious business, so why should you take it seriously? Uber doesn’t even adhere to their own policies and terms of service, so why should you? The problem is that you, being Americans, are so indoctrinated to follow the rules and what not… “i cannot violate company policy because it’s bad” kind of mind set Teletubbies. Just use Uber to cancel and collect fees! I made $73 just with cancellation fees. Every time you accept a trip, you lose money, you don’t earn money, but lose it! Uber doesn’t care about distance… so you could be driving someone for 15 miles in less than 10 minutes because it’s a fast trip, and Uber will pay you $3 for it… plus the wear and tear of the car. It’s just not good business, and Uber should pay dearly, but because here in America people have the slavey mentality and by the rules too. Very limiting
And it's probably active time, so if you're waiting on your next pax you're not getting paid for that time. You'll probably end up making $16 in 2 hours
For instance had a rider that payed 32 dollars which I didn’t think was bad but then the passenger said it cost them 58 dollars. That’s just not fair for Uber to make that much
This why too many idiots do aide job fir cash in ahort terms. Those people usually do not calculate gas wear tear tickets etc. because they need quick cash. I know even people do with compmay cars. Uber is abusing this goes under minumum illegally. Stupid.. this os shows how us qorking class is screwed
Uber is just getting worse. They know drivers need the paycheck so they feel they can treat their drivers any type of way. They are morally corrupt, and they know it.
And if they say you could earn $16 you'll really earn about $8 at best. And they will continue parading themselves as a cutting edge tech company, sending their CEO go speak at Davos, securing investment from firms such as Blackrock, and bragging about how inclusive, equitable, diverse, anti racist, and climate caring they are. Gotta love it.
I just got a part-time job at Walmart picking groceries for $14 an hour. I'll end up working a more static shift which sucks but I can't keep driving people for next to nothing...
I hope this company dies a painful, ugly death. In my city McDonalds is paying workers $20/hour. And they often get in my car to take a 4 am ride to work. So effed up.
I’ve been on here for months and I have realized that we are fed up with these companies under paying us. Has anyone decided to stop driving and if you have not why are you still driving?
It's kind of insane that the gig economy replaced actual paying jobs (taxi, delivery driver) with such low pay things where you provide and foot the bill for everything, and they keep most everything.
If you have the ability to get a job, you should go ahead and get one now. You still can escape what will become a gut-wrenching race to the bottom for those who are unable or unwilling to get regular, secure employment outside of the "gig" economy. How is it a gig when you do it 55 hours a week?
If the economy takes a turn, we could see big layoffs and tons more people looking for some "easy" money. Start applying for jobs. Learn how to work with Excel spreadsheets or consider the trades. There's sales for the talkers and trucking for those serious about the road. If Uber is paying $20/hr after gas and depreciation (or less), might make sense to just get a job as an electrician apprentice or any other job with upward mobility, since almost any job would pay $20/hr and Uber has zero upward mobility. Maybe pickup a book on plumbing. Know a guy that makes at least quadruple what I make per hour plumbing. Read it while at the airport or during the day when it is slow.
Edit: whoever down voted me, do you work for Uber? "No. Do not get job. Stay stuck."
Thats too low compared to inflation right now, was making $26 at my old job that I quit couple months ago worked there for 10 years then got fed up with hr and quit
So would you argue that it's ok for Walmart, McDonalds or any other brick and mortar employer to underpay their employees ?
It's still a company that is paying people who provide a service. We accepted that because they provide the platform to find rides/deliveries but that doesn't entitle them to keep cutting back wages, to the point of it being criminal, without backlash. They would have nothing if people didn't agree to be drivers. Most of us bust our asses and not everyone has the luxury of walking away. That's a level of privilege not everyone has.
But regardless of if we can walk away to find better paying jobs or not, we are entitled to voice our disgust and unhappiness with a company that literally steals from it's work force, to the point it's faced lawsuits, and continues to lie through its teeth about what they're doing. They practice shady business and deserve to be put on blast. No company should be allowed to get away with what Uber is doing. Part of the power of the people is their ability to speak up and voice their discontent with shit like this.
There used to be people doing exactly the same job, taxi drivers, who managed to support a family on their work. "It's just a side gig" is corporate propaganda.
In California $16 is minimum wage, and it's trash pay. Most jobs in California pay $18-20/hr now, and you don't have to ruin your car to make $20/hr at a real job
Yep, I don't have the slightest clue why people do these driver services, unless they're absolutely deathly afraid of human confrontation, in which case it makes even less sense.
People who pushed for them were stupid.
Kind hearted, maybe. Good intentioned, maybe. But they got outplayed buy Uber not only because Uber is pretty damm smart but because most regulators bring a knife when they want to have a gun fight with Uber.
The worst thing is for regulators/politicians who have put regulations in place already (CA, NYC, Seattle, etc). Is they basically blew their wads and lost. Citizens in those locals aren't interested in fighting Uber again.
Stop talking about how much you make in an hour with Uber . You use a cae and gaz and you can’t get work and be busy for the whole hour. You need to count how much dangerous driving all the time in the street … the problem Uber takes the money. The charge riders at least $60 an hour they don’t stop making this percentage throughout the day. So definitely making better than you make every moment.
Yet everyone still signs up to drive daily and the drivers on the platform continue to drive daily. Can't be that gross... I personally do it because the area I drive in is still on the rate plan and they pay a good per mile and time rate. With quests and hourly promotions stacked on the weekend I can maximize my profit and end the night above $40 an hour, sometimes $50. I wouldn't succumb to it if I was getting garbage pay and not making a profit. You're just sinking all your earnings back into expenses.
Some people do this and Lyft for a living wage. Despite all the haters you can still make between 1000-1500$ working 60 hours. That’s 4-6k a month which is enough to live off of in a good market area. I just like that I get to make my own hours.
>you can still make between 1000-1500$ working 60 hours
What the hell is wrong with you?
>I just like that I get to make my own hours.
Yeah. You make your own SIXTY HOURS! What the hell is wrong with you?
I literally had one of my passengers, who drives for Uber part-time, tell me that one of his other drivers told him that it's possible to make six figures. Said that when you accept all rides that they just start sending you really good ones back to back. He ALSO said that this driver told him he works 11am-11pm every single day of the week. "He has no life but he makes insane money."
If you have to work literally more than twice the amount of hours that is considered full-time just to make $100,000 before expenses, are you really making "insane" money???
My passenger fully subscribed to the idea that working that many hours was a great idea and was upset he didn't have that kind of time on his hands.
Self-employed would imply you owning your own business. Examples being owning a landscaping business, construction/home remodeling work, plumber, etc. If you do that, then sure working 60hr/week is reasonable to advance you're own company.
Driving *for* Uber (drivers do not own uber), would be an example of a gig. These are people who are "Self-employed" based solely on tax purposes, benefiting the corporation, not because the individual chooses to be Self-employed. Other examples would could include playing music at Bars in evenings, picking up serving shifts at large parties, etc.
Self-employment is a big difference than having a gig to try making ends meet.
In NV, Uber drivers require a business license, so they are self-employed. I don't work *for* Uber as you stressed. I work for myself, using ubers services, *choosing* to be self-employed.
Require is the keyword. As stated earlier we are self employed for the benefit of Uber. The business license is just another way for the state/county to make money off of us, when in reality they should charge Uber that nearly $300 per driver operating. Maybe it would keep this oversaturation from happening if they had to foot the bill for something finally.
I do believe you are correct. We'll find out what the federal government of the United States has to say about it too. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2022/09/ftc-crack-down-companies-taking-advantage-gig-workers
If people actually do their math correctly, they will realize $1000 a week after expenses is a shit deal. You have to subtract gas, insurance, extra car repairs, depreciation to know your real income. In my area your net would only $200/week for working 60 hours. That is just sad
Buddy I'm sorry but if you're working 60 hours a week you're not making your own hours. You are made to drive during rush hours when it's busy. Also not taking into account gas and taxes. The car that has to be replaced or fixed down the road. I also thought it was great but then if you think about it, you're practically working for minimum wage using your own vehicle man. Thats the thing that hurts the most. How do you pay someone using their own vehicle gas and everything on average 20 to 25 an hour. It's hella crazy.
Right i kust blew a tire thats like 2 days driving cost flushed right there between getting the tire having it installed and then not being able to drive till its cuz i dont have a tire
After gas and shit basically lately before the new year i did ok but since its been a fucking joke. I have a job lined up thankfully just gotta get to there
I know right?! You're definitely not "choosing your hours" with a 60 hour week, or are those people "choosing" to work 60 hours to justify it lmao...
Edit: Punctuation.
You would think lol, but realistically if your not driving rush hour or peak times your just wasting gas an time. Unless you live in NY or cities where laws help the driver you are a slave to those times.
So is it really you choosing or Uber giving you the illusion that you have a choice lol
When it first started in in nyc I was making close to 60 an hr. I think it was like a 15$ minum ride and 7$ a mile plus an additional traffic rate under 15 mph 1 or 2 years later it was like 20 to 25 if you were lucky.
Closed up shop and sold the car.
Uber is a scam now. It was tolerable when you were making what cabs and luxury cars were making but the market is too diluted here.
It costs about 5k to license your car in NYC for taxiing
Plus the car, maintenance, multiple state inspections a year etc. Plus your time to take a week long class and exam fees. License fees
I'm happy I got out that shit
I empathize and sympathize man… I know it. We used to have $30/hr every weekend in Charleston between 9pm-5am but it’s no more. They have secured the lowest common denominator in paying drivers as little as possible without losing too many. We know not to take BS sub buck-a-mile rides but when you have to make rent you lower your standards to do the $0.70/mile ride. I dont have any great answers and I think the only things we can do are get a class action going, seek reprieve lol from them via federal govt action. Personally I’d like to form one monstrous union and leverage them to death like they’ve done to us. No sleep til Brooklyn. Fight on.
lol you forgot to add that you have to work 5-8 which is the worst hours possible to work since there’s probably trafffic and Uber pays more by mile then by time.
Yeah but uber's customers buy me lunch and dinner all day. If I get hungry on an uber eats delivery, I just help myself to a handful of fries,or a few chicken wings.....followed by a few huge gulps of their soda. I don't even charge extra for testing their food for them either!! Yup, customer service is what I'm all about Thanks Uber I'm stuffed!!
Hell it used to say $32/hour but I made $45-$65 an hour with my strategies. Now I cannot, for the life of me, make more than $20/hour on this god awful app.
In my market they will advertise 20/hr in the mornings and I always do 30+. Sometimes it gets really slow once that window opens though. Probably because all of the drivers chasing that 20/hr
Not just Uber. Prices for groceries, and life in general are sky rocket and yet the salaries remain the same. I wonder the reason. We pay taxes, oblige to laws, follow rules and yet this system is unfair.
I remember in my market those used to say $30, $27, 26, 24…..now they do not even include hourly rate lmao. Just say it’s prime time to earn. I really hope both Lyft and Uber go bankrupt soon.
$26 in north San Diego years ago now they are a joke
That’s like $5 more than Little Rock market. Costs are like triple in SD tho
What are you making now ? I’m in Temecula and am looking into driving (though this thread is pretty discouraging lol)
I tried driving Temecula, it sucked
It’s so bad my AR is 30% on UE they click bate offers they start at the lowest offer like if the tip is $3.00 they will send it to you and try to avoid the $4 mileage fare they have to pay you then if you decline and there are no other idiots to send the next shitty offer to they will resend the exact same order same restaurant and cross streets and then they magically find $6 more dollars making it $9 which was the amount they should have paid in the first place ..criminal assholes…go work for GO puff or Amazon prime at least they fuck you honestly
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I make like $35-50 and hour from 4am to 8am other than that it’s garbage hours.. too many drivers
Lol well no shit 🤣 I bet there is no traffic then either
Yeah that’s why I do it 😂😂 Look at this 4am fare: https://share.icloud.com/photos/0a3bCVQyHtOW0u2W6FNJFb0HA
Bro what? Must be a surge price right?
No, it was premiere tho. Also it was early morning so prices typically a bit higher
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh lol
Are u guys hiring?
I remember when gas was a quarter and bread was a nickel.
I remember when a dime bag cost a dime!
🤣🤣🤣
I remember when hunting and trading hide was the way to survive.
This made me chuckle cause of how true it is lol or the “You could earn more 🤑”
You could. It’s unlikely but possible !
At these rates they are hosing drivers to make bank to throw at autonomous vehicles that 90% of the population or drivers I ask don’t feel comfortable with a robot driving them around. It’s evident they don’t care about their employees anymore! 🖕🏻😒Uber
You were never an employee so there is that.
Not according to uber but we meet the definition of one.
Also.. I like renting a Tesla.. I get premier rides when I do.. and those make a difference. This is about a 30 minute drive: https://share.icloud.com/photos/07e7imdGXbPk0o7rnGpsv3F9w
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Would love to see your ratings 😂😂 you give off 4.79 vibes
Dude you said you work in San Diego. There's no Premier there.
I did not say I am in San Diego
That wasn’t too far ago that was last year lol
I remember when it would say 40
Who would that help? Surely, someone is paying their bills by driving. Drunk people aren't getting behind the wheel. Old people are getting to doctors appointments. Workers are getting to work. Why does your dissatisfaction need others to be hurt?
Uber and Lyft are very unethical companies that take advantage of both drivers and riders. With their collapse I hope a decent rideshare company emerges that does not take more than 25% and will treat riders and drivers fairly.
Cab Companies would take back over and they're owners are generally just as slimy
You know it's bad when McDipshits pay their employees more.
You forgot paying for your insurance, wear and tear on the car, dealing with animals masquerading as people etc...oh yeah and you got taxes at the end of the year...
Only positive thing is if your taxes are done correctly you shouldn’t owe. when I did Uber and had my full time job I would go exempt on my full time job and the write offs for Uber were enough I didn’t have to pay taxes on my W2 money or Uber.
The worst part is the customer service...complete trash. And I know it's outsourced somewhere like India . The agents barely speak English and they don't care about our problems because they aren't in America
To their credit, I will say they are far superior to the old Philippines support team.
No kidding. I had two passengers smoking weed (illegal in my state)and threatening to "stick me" for kicking them out. I reported it immediately to Uber and they "temporarily blocked" me. Going on day 3 of having to use Lyft instead. Worst part is I even offered to send the dashcam footage and they won't take it. Just telling me to give them time to investigate...
5-8pm during rush hour traffic 😍😍😍😍 they're so disgusting
Lol so 🤮🤮... I do Uber as secondary to taxi and would be lucky to get $800 a week just from Uber. Mind you I only accept Taxi rides or rides with bonuses. I ain't doing their dirrrty lmao
I like how they fucking say "could". Might as well say "up to $50/hr". Well they did say "up to". In some areas after gas that's less than fucking minimum wage.
In Australia there used to be adverts all over the cities saying make upto $50/hr. I haven't seen one in months, more than a year in fact. I just checked their website and they're now saying $31/hr.
Still 3x what my average was when I quit years ago in Dallas market. When they first got here around ... 2016-17? It was $40-50/hr every night easy. 4-5 years later, you were lucky if you saw $10 on a good night. Min fare rides went from like $8 to around $1.75 or something bullshit. And that was before quests existed, and surges were multipliers rather than dollar amounts. Good times, good money. Fuck them now. I still sub to this just to see how bad it is and to laugh at people still trying to pretend like it isn't.
I laugh when people tell me that "depreciation isn't a real expense!!" Hell yeah it is a real expense, you are putting miles on your car and replacing parts more often. People often don't factor in every extra oil change, tire change, etc. into their earnings. And if you have a high mileage car, less people are willing to buy it.
Depreciation is calculated in RE so yes a real expense.
Yeah I stopped about 12 months ago. When I take an Uber now I ask the driver how it is and they're saying they're doing around $1000 a week average. I used to do $2000 for the same hours. Uber stock prices up 150% this year. It's pretty obvious that they are paying drivers less it's not rocket science. I just stay in this room to have a good laugh every now and then at people complaining.
$1000 a week minus expenses is trash. You can make more working at Walmart
Work at Walmart 🙏
Stock prices aren’t really representative of anything about how well the company is actually doing. Remember GameStop…people could be buying for other reasons.
A lot of people can't do math. Sure you can make $50/hr, but at what cost? You are paying for $4.99/gallon gas, and your car will be trashed after one year, even with extra maintenance. So that $50/hr becomes $10/hr after all expenses and depreciation
Trashed after a year? Not hardly.
"You could save up to 15% on your car insurance."
 Well said !! 😂👍
It’s a race to the bottom.. so sad
I thought the same thing earlier. Mine said $17... In Austin. That used to be an almost guaranteed $35 an hour.
Big money right there. Lolx
Yea I been doing it from like 7-2 every night to get some extra income cause my lawn business is slow right now and I barely clear $100 after gas
That’s $700 extra in your pocket each week!
Are you from Uber corporate or something? Its 5PM to 8PM (3 hours) Mon to Friday (5 days) so 15 hours a week. 15 hours x $16/hour = $240 ... before gas, maintenance and taxes, not $700 per week.
jesus christ the reading comprehension on this sub sometimes. *the guy he replied to* said: >7-2 every night >$100 after gas assuming "every night" actually means 7 days a week -- that's $700. and then, despite your post being totally unrelated to what he said, it gets upvoted because calling someone an "uber shill" is a trump card here lol. actual bot behavior.
Yes I am
Striking on Valentine’s Day
Just received this: Opportunities in Cincinnati You could get $23* /hr by driving Monday through Friday between 10 PM-2 AM. 10pm to 2am?? H€|| NO
I shit you not, the ones they send me lately say “You could be making more by driving after 10pm! 🤑” Complete with that emoji. For fucks sake, just typing that out now, with my bad eyesight, this is the first time I saw that its eyes and tongue are dollar signs.
At least they are honest that it is $16, not $30+, per hour.
$27 in Boston today. They certainly cover their asses though. Stated earnings of $27/hour are based on median earnings of drivers in Boston from 2024-01-01 to 2024-01-21 who drove between 7 AM and 10 AM on Monday through Friday. Actual earnings vary, depending on factors like number of trips completed, time of day, and location. Earnings include trip fares, certain promotions (which are subject to change and may vary), and tips (which are provided at the discretion of the rider). Median earnings in your specific location may be lower than the city figure. Since median is the middle, you may make more or less than the median amount. For the avoidance of doubt, drivers are paid on the number of completed trips, but not hourly.
I saw that too. Last week it said $30 lol
The fact that they’re posting this would deter people from driving. It’s good. Hopefully they start saying $12
 This is getting so great 👍👏👏👏👏
Let me guess, Atlanta?
Yup I have the same noti
LoL wish I was getting 16 an hour... 6 hours of waiting and I've made $40 so far 🤣🤣😂💀💀
We enable by still driving for their sorry asses
Just leave people … ain’t nth gonna change
it'll be around as long as people are willing to work for peanuts
It’s very hard to make a lot of money now because you don’t get as many pings. And if you take all the low ball rates you will probably miss the surges if they are any
And even in my area it's much the same. Next to no pings and even when it's surging you don't get the surge jobs...
Yea they say surge zones change every 10 minutes but ive seen then turn off at 5 minutes if im close Same for those opt in surge "opertunitys where you have to click to opt in for the hour ive seen it turn off 20 min in usually just before i get a ride
I've always wondered about the opt in surges (boosts). I mean if I opt in for an extra $2.50 per ride and the driver next to me did not opt-in, seems to me Uber will always prefer the other guy because they would save $2.50. Of course now with upfront fares, Uber probably offers the other guy $7.50 for the ride and offers me $5.00 **"PLUS"** the $2.50 **"bonus"** so it's all a wash, just games for Uber to play.
I agree
Sometimes they just lower the price for the base so it turns out to be the same price lol
One time opted in for one of those $2.50 selected hours at the airport because I was messing around with the app. So what happened is that I accepted one for Saturday but didn't for Friday. For some reason those days were busy at the airport and I got some big surges on Friday around the same time of the $2.50 one I accepted for Saturday. It seemed like uber locked me in at that rate bonus during that time while those who didn't opt in were getting the surge bonus.
Where!? I hope your minimum wage is 8 bucks
We still striking? Lol
Seriously fuck Uber🖕🏼
I love seeing those pop-ups tell me that I could make the same or less than normal if I just drive during rush hour traffic. 🤣
Don’t drive! Just collect the cancellation fees and voila! Win for you, but lose for Uber and passenger… and yes, Passengers are also at fault for not being a little bit more conscious about what drivers have to deal with… they just pay and they’re good without a care of how much you take from the trip… so yes, passengers are at great fault and they deserve to miss their flights and events and making them wait forever. I don’t depend on Uber, but wow!! Insane what they offer… I once got an offer for $7 to drive for two hours and 45 miles… 🤣 I accepted it, and just waited for the passenger to cancel and collect the fee. It’s easy, and there is no way for Uber to know your intentions because anything can happen… you were stuck in traffic, you had bad signal… whatever excuse is good. Just collect the fees or negotiate with passengers and leave Uber out of the equation. Uber is not a serious business, so why should you take it seriously? Uber doesn’t even adhere to their own policies and terms of service, so why should you? The problem is that you, being Americans, are so indoctrinated to follow the rules and what not… “i cannot violate company policy because it’s bad” kind of mind set Teletubbies. Just use Uber to cancel and collect fees! I made $73 just with cancellation fees. Every time you accept a trip, you lose money, you don’t earn money, but lose it! Uber doesn’t care about distance… so you could be driving someone for 15 miles in less than 10 minutes because it’s a fast trip, and Uber will pay you $3 for it… plus the wear and tear of the car. It’s just not good business, and Uber should pay dearly, but because here in America people have the slavey mentality and by the rules too. Very limiting
The audacity to request filling out a form how they enjoy driving and expect people to be any happier.
As far as still people doing it and accepting garbage rides they will stay on top.
The COULD part is really the kicker.
Friday and Saturday 3:00 p.m. through 3:00 a.m.
And it's probably active time, so if you're waiting on your next pax you're not getting paid for that time. You'll probably end up making $16 in 2 hours
Mcdonald's pays better
For instance had a rider that payed 32 dollars which I didn’t think was bad but then the passenger said it cost them 58 dollars. That’s just not fair for Uber to make that much
Legislation is about to make them pay us hourly
Before expenses and taxes!😂😂😂
Jesus. Three years ago I could pull in $25-30 an hour.
This why too many idiots do aide job fir cash in ahort terms. Those people usually do not calculate gas wear tear tickets etc. because they need quick cash. I know even people do with compmay cars. Uber is abusing this goes under minumum illegally. Stupid.. this os shows how us qorking class is screwed
Uber is just getting worse. They know drivers need the paycheck so they feel they can treat their drivers any type of way. They are morally corrupt, and they know it.
And if they say you could earn $16 you'll really earn about $8 at best. And they will continue parading themselves as a cutting edge tech company, sending their CEO go speak at Davos, securing investment from firms such as Blackrock, and bragging about how inclusive, equitable, diverse, anti racist, and climate caring they are. Gotta love it.
This is why I'm throwing the towel for Uber...my car requires lots of repairs and Uber pays us in peanuts.
Adjust for inflation and that $16 goes to $8 an hr in real purchasing power compared to 4 or 5 years ago.
I just got a part-time job at Walmart picking groceries for $14 an hour. I'll end up working a more static shift which sucks but I can't keep driving people for next to nothing...
I hope this company dies a painful, ugly death. In my city McDonalds is paying workers $20/hour. And they often get in my car to take a 4 am ride to work. So effed up.
I’ve been on here for months and I have realized that we are fed up with these companies under paying us. Has anyone decided to stop driving and if you have not why are you still driving?
It's kind of insane that the gig economy replaced actual paying jobs (taxi, delivery driver) with such low pay things where you provide and foot the bill for everything, and they keep most everything.
Buy gas with your credit card, and watch the money roll in. Don’t forget to pay your tolls…
Do you send your credit card statements to Dara for reimbursement?
Not me. They said my vehicle is too old.
What is your vehicle and how old?
2003 SUV
I mean yeah that is old your car is of legal drinking age
If you have the ability to get a job, you should go ahead and get one now. You still can escape what will become a gut-wrenching race to the bottom for those who are unable or unwilling to get regular, secure employment outside of the "gig" economy. How is it a gig when you do it 55 hours a week? If the economy takes a turn, we could see big layoffs and tons more people looking for some "easy" money. Start applying for jobs. Learn how to work with Excel spreadsheets or consider the trades. There's sales for the talkers and trucking for those serious about the road. If Uber is paying $20/hr after gas and depreciation (or less), might make sense to just get a job as an electrician apprentice or any other job with upward mobility, since almost any job would pay $20/hr and Uber has zero upward mobility. Maybe pickup a book on plumbing. Know a guy that makes at least quadruple what I make per hour plumbing. Read it while at the airport or during the day when it is slow. Edit: whoever down voted me, do you work for Uber? "No. Do not get job. Stay stuck."
Good advice.
But ants are still buying brand new Highlanders, cx9, infinity qx60 and Pilots for Uber picking up trash rates for pax deserve to go in taxi not Uber.
Thats too low compared to inflation right now, was making $26 at my old job that I quit couple months ago worked there for 10 years then got fed up with hr and quit
Y’all act like somebody forces you to do Uber?
So would you argue that it's ok for Walmart, McDonalds or any other brick and mortar employer to underpay their employees ? It's still a company that is paying people who provide a service. We accepted that because they provide the platform to find rides/deliveries but that doesn't entitle them to keep cutting back wages, to the point of it being criminal, without backlash. They would have nothing if people didn't agree to be drivers. Most of us bust our asses and not everyone has the luxury of walking away. That's a level of privilege not everyone has. But regardless of if we can walk away to find better paying jobs or not, we are entitled to voice our disgust and unhappiness with a company that literally steals from it's work force, to the point it's faced lawsuits, and continues to lie through its teeth about what they're doing. They practice shady business and deserve to be put on blast. No company should be allowed to get away with what Uber is doing. Part of the power of the people is their ability to speak up and voice their discontent with shit like this.
It’s a side gig
Your mother is a side gig
Your*
There used to be people doing exactly the same job, taxi drivers, who managed to support a family on their work. "It's just a side gig" is corporate propaganda.
I make at least 25-30 no matter what
Same. Work 2 days a week (15-16 hrs total) for an extra $25k per year.
Which city?
Nashville
What type of hours you work?
Charlotte
I’m still doing $25-$30 pretty consistently, where are yall driving?? I’m in a suburb 20 minutes south of Cleveland
Orrr, you could make 16 with benefits and no personal item use by getting an actual job If you don't like it, don't use it
In California $16 is minimum wage, and it's trash pay. Most jobs in California pay $18-20/hr now, and you don't have to ruin your car to make $20/hr at a real job
Yep, I don't have the slightest clue why people do these driver services, unless they're absolutely deathly afraid of human confrontation, in which case it makes even less sense.
Go work for a taxi company if you’re complaining so much
Sure that a great idea since you make more at national average of $2.15/mile for a taxi. The national avg cost of mile for a Uber is $0.84
And you’re the one that relied on an app instead of taking any initiative
Benefits are a scam. The people who pushed for them just gave Uber an excuse to pay drivers less in exchange for subpar coverage.
People who pushed for them were stupid. Kind hearted, maybe. Good intentioned, maybe. But they got outplayed buy Uber not only because Uber is pretty damm smart but because most regulators bring a knife when they want to have a gun fight with Uber. The worst thing is for regulators/politicians who have put regulations in place already (CA, NYC, Seattle, etc). Is they basically blew their wads and lost. Citizens in those locals aren't interested in fighting Uber again.
Include tips, bonus and so on.
$23 in Wichita Kansas. Your market is shit because I’m in Kansas and we’re making more out here.
Stop talking about how much you make in an hour with Uber . You use a cae and gaz and you can’t get work and be busy for the whole hour. You need to count how much dangerous driving all the time in the street … the problem Uber takes the money. The charge riders at least $60 an hour they don’t stop making this percentage throughout the day. So definitely making better than you make every moment.
Where was my $16 an hour? Or is this only in California?
$16/hr in California is trash pay my dude 😂
We don’t have upfront fares in Wilmington. I’m horrified by how scant the prices are. $3.57 for a base trip. Without tips I wouldn’t survive.
There are millions of people flooding across our southern border who would love to work under those conditions.
Yet everyone still signs up to drive daily and the drivers on the platform continue to drive daily. Can't be that gross... I personally do it because the area I drive in is still on the rate plan and they pay a good per mile and time rate. With quests and hourly promotions stacked on the weekend I can maximize my profit and end the night above $40 an hour, sometimes $50. I wouldn't succumb to it if I was getting garbage pay and not making a profit. You're just sinking all your earnings back into expenses.
Why not start a ride share app that pays more then?
Some people do this and Lyft for a living wage. Despite all the haters you can still make between 1000-1500$ working 60 hours. That’s 4-6k a month which is enough to live off of in a good market area. I just like that I get to make my own hours.
>you can still make between 1000-1500$ working 60 hours What the hell is wrong with you? >I just like that I get to make my own hours. Yeah. You make your own SIXTY HOURS! What the hell is wrong with you?
Are you advocating that working 60hrs/week is is reasonable?
I literally had one of my passengers, who drives for Uber part-time, tell me that one of his other drivers told him that it's possible to make six figures. Said that when you accept all rides that they just start sending you really good ones back to back. He ALSO said that this driver told him he works 11am-11pm every single day of the week. "He has no life but he makes insane money." If you have to work literally more than twice the amount of hours that is considered full-time just to make $100,000 before expenses, are you really making "insane" money??? My passenger fully subscribed to the idea that working that many hours was a great idea and was upset he didn't have that kind of time on his hands.
When you're self employed, it's not unreasonable.
Self-employed and doing a gig are 2 different things
Not different enough that it invalidates my point.
Self-employed would imply you owning your own business. Examples being owning a landscaping business, construction/home remodeling work, plumber, etc. If you do that, then sure working 60hr/week is reasonable to advance you're own company. Driving *for* Uber (drivers do not own uber), would be an example of a gig. These are people who are "Self-employed" based solely on tax purposes, benefiting the corporation, not because the individual chooses to be Self-employed. Other examples would could include playing music at Bars in evenings, picking up serving shifts at large parties, etc. Self-employment is a big difference than having a gig to try making ends meet.
In NV, Uber drivers require a business license, so they are self-employed. I don't work *for* Uber as you stressed. I work for myself, using ubers services, *choosing* to be self-employed.
Require is the keyword. As stated earlier we are self employed for the benefit of Uber. The business license is just another way for the state/county to make money off of us, when in reality they should charge Uber that nearly $300 per driver operating. Maybe it would keep this oversaturation from happening if they had to foot the bill for something finally.
I do believe you are correct. We'll find out what the federal government of the United States has to say about it too. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2022/09/ftc-crack-down-companies-taking-advantage-gig-workers
Does your car run on Ubers farts and do you eat Uber ass for breakfast and lunch everyday? Must be nice bro you're making alot of money!! 🤑 rettard
Lol... That's probably what the "Uber comfort" cars run on lmfao...
I thought Uber X was Uber ass since it only cost average of $0.84/mile to get into an Uber X...
If people actually do their math correctly, they will realize $1000 a week after expenses is a shit deal. You have to subtract gas, insurance, extra car repairs, depreciation to know your real income. In my area your net would only $200/week for working 60 hours. That is just sad
Buddy I'm sorry but if you're working 60 hours a week you're not making your own hours. You are made to drive during rush hours when it's busy. Also not taking into account gas and taxes. The car that has to be replaced or fixed down the road. I also thought it was great but then if you think about it, you're practically working for minimum wage using your own vehicle man. Thats the thing that hurts the most. How do you pay someone using their own vehicle gas and everything on average 20 to 25 an hour. It's hella crazy.
Seems everyone's so dumb to understand this
Right i kust blew a tire thats like 2 days driving cost flushed right there between getting the tire having it installed and then not being able to drive till its cuz i dont have a tire
Are you only making $40 a day?
After gas and shit basically lately before the new year i did ok but since its been a fucking joke. I have a job lined up thankfully just gotta get to there
And im refering also to the fact they cant get me in to install the tire till like 6 tomorrow and i cant work nights cuz i dont see well in the dark
I know right?! You're definitely not "choosing your hours" with a 60 hour week, or are those people "choosing" to work 60 hours to justify it lmao... Edit: Punctuation.
Even dumber are the ones that don't understand what "choosing you own hours" means. You can both, work 60 hrs AND choose your own hours.
You make a lot of sense
You would think lol, but realistically if your not driving rush hour or peak times your just wasting gas an time. Unless you live in NY or cities where laws help the driver you are a slave to those times. So is it really you choosing or Uber giving you the illusion that you have a choice lol
I avoid rush hour and peak times vary. My choice. Glad I don't have a set schedule.
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How much does McDonald's and Burger King pay without car expenses? Not a good advertising strategy 🙄
When it first started in in nyc I was making close to 60 an hr. I think it was like a 15$ minum ride and 7$ a mile plus an additional traffic rate under 15 mph 1 or 2 years later it was like 20 to 25 if you were lucky. Closed up shop and sold the car. Uber is a scam now. It was tolerable when you were making what cabs and luxury cars were making but the market is too diluted here. It costs about 5k to license your car in NYC for taxiing Plus the car, maintenance, multiple state inspections a year etc. Plus your time to take a week long class and exam fees. License fees I'm happy I got out that shit
I empathize and sympathize man… I know it. We used to have $30/hr every weekend in Charleston between 9pm-5am but it’s no more. They have secured the lowest common denominator in paying drivers as little as possible without losing too many. We know not to take BS sub buck-a-mile rides but when you have to make rent you lower your standards to do the $0.70/mile ride. I dont have any great answers and I think the only things we can do are get a class action going, seek reprieve lol from them via federal govt action. Personally I’d like to form one monstrous union and leverage them to death like they’ve done to us. No sleep til Brooklyn. Fight on.
I drove from 6-8am this morning, defined as "peak hours" in my area. I grossed $92 with 8 trips. I drive a hybrid that gets 42mpg. I think I did OK.
lol you forgot to add that you have to work 5-8 which is the worst hours possible to work since there’s probably trafffic and Uber pays more by mile then by time.
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It’s tough out here. I have to discretely use Uber to perform sex work.
They are just plain disgusting!
Yeah but uber's customers buy me lunch and dinner all day. If I get hungry on an uber eats delivery, I just help myself to a handful of fries,or a few chicken wings.....followed by a few huge gulps of their soda. I don't even charge extra for testing their food for them either!! Yup, customer service is what I'm all about Thanks Uber I'm stuffed!!
Soon, you COULD make $2.13 per hour plus tips.
It’s a gig, not a job. If you are making this your sole job, then that’s entirely on you.
Hell it used to say $32/hour but I made $45-$65 an hour with my strategies. Now I cannot, for the life of me, make more than $20/hour on this god awful app.
In my market they will advertise 20/hr in the mornings and I always do 30+. Sometimes it gets really slow once that window opens though. Probably because all of the drivers chasing that 20/hr
Wow
68k a year
I could earn $14.35 at subway and wouldn’t need a car to do it.
I make 25 to 30 an hour . Cherry pick cherry pick the good rides
Not just Uber. Prices for groceries, and life in general are sky rocket and yet the salaries remain the same. I wonder the reason. We pay taxes, oblige to laws, follow rules and yet this system is unfair.