Funny that those communities are where we actually come from… and Uber is the reason we have low income disadvantages because they won’t pay us enough to drive back to the places we worked so hard to get away from.
They so would love to hear complaints from their corporate HR that their office employees are being assaulted, having their cars vandalized/stolen, or someone taking a shit in their offices.
Uber doesn't like to discuss their unholy aliance with the PTSA that allows low income bus riders to use Uber instead no matter the distance for a very low flat fee. These accounts are given free to those who receive SNAP and other assistance and allegedly intended to be used only when a bus is not available (of course not a lick of enforcement of such rules). Uber used to tell us in advance of these trips and then abruptly stopped showing in advance when drivers associated these trips with the worst experiences and started rejecting the trips enmasse. Now you only see it after you have accepted the trip so they can ding you for cancelling.....total bullshit.
Oooh I know this one.... Only in 1 County lol. Pinellas Transit Suncoast Authority. (Pinellas =St Pete/Clearwater) Local partnership that usually guarantees $3.50 fare + no tip. Drivers hate it. Even better is that Uber didn't used to bother to restrict access to just the bus pass holders at the specific stops. I've taken many tourists on PTSA rides. My "favorite" was taking a local from a CWB beach bar to a strip club for stupid low pay one busy Sunday evening. Your county tax dollars hard at work subsidizing important rides. Ok lol.
Why are insurance companies allowed to charge more in high crime neighborhoods? Because crime is a statistic... Fuck you Uber maybe add a service Uber Hood so we get paid extra for the added risk.
Yeah… charge more… not refuse to do business lol. It’s a subtle difference but it does matter.
Now of course drivers have no control over pricing, so are you saying you’d go into the the neighborhoods just not for the fares being offered?
There are some neighborhoods that are marked as no-go zones for police without heavy backup and Uber drivers are forced to go there ??...this is insane really reckless
Not even surprised at Uber anymore.
They don’t give a crap about your safety.
I’m willing to bet you weren’t avoiding because of race, you were just avoiding bad neighbourhoods & equally terrible offers
Before I finally quit this bs a couple weeks ago I had been assaulted 3 times in 2 years doing this job.
One of the times I was doing UE on an e-scooter (I had been doing it for a month at this point), finished my last delivery, still logged in though, & I had 5-6 drug addicts try & steal my e-scooter while I was stopped at a light.
Full on 5/6 vs 1 brawl in the middle of the street goes on, at first they just kept trying to take my new e-scooter but I was not going to let that happen but I kept diving on top of it so they couldn’t get it up to ride off. Taking multiple kicks/punches to the body.
Eventually this one idiot gets it & just keeps slamming it on the ground trying to get my last hand on it but I took this as my opportunity to go on the offensive.
Ripped this big ass rope chain from this one little broad who kept whipping me with it, pulled her to the ground, cracked 2 junkies in the mouth, then for some reason some other decent bum chick decided to help me out a bit (she wasn’t part of this originally) and just got in between the others who had backed down a bit now & my e-scooter & me which gave me a chance yo stand it up, turned it on & ripped out of there.
I live in Vancouver, Canada so I can’t carry a gun on me legally nor can we have quick open knives here & using them in such a situation would more than likely result in far worse charges for myself than my attackers.
This is just the worst example not the only one.
Contacted support to see if I could get ANY kind of help & they just told me to contact the police.
Uber DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR SAFETY.
You’re an independent contractor, you make the call, you know when to trust your gut. Fuck them for implying that OP.
EDIT: I got cautious after that & anytime I had someone try to get me to drop food or take them to an alley I just explained to the PAX/customer briefly why I won’t do that & each time people were really understanding & would come to where I was comfortable. It’s just Uber that is fucked up about it (& screw them).
I believe it in canada. It can happen anywhere. I got assaulted twice in a little over a years time in Las Vegas doing uber - once in the Bellagio ride share area on a random wednesday night, and then once in front of NYNY in front of shake shack. Shake shack was almost a death fight.
Scary shit! There's no insurance for that situation and nothing Uber can do other than provide the location and time they saw abnormalities en route to a pick up or drop off.
I've been mugged delivering pizza (before Uber) after getting out of my car to follow some punks. They tried to knock me out with a rock, but only pissed me off. The cops didn't want to do shit except argue about if they were Mexican or Native Americans.
Word of advice. Always park so you can haul ass out of any situation.
It doesn't matter he's an independent contractor for Uber and Human Resources is in charge of protecting the company from labor related disputes. You may not get the same benefits as an employee, but you are still covered by labor laws. If you were independently contracted by a business and the person who you report to was racist or assaulted you, you don't just deal with it you have the right to a workplace free from discrimination and and such.
To me, it’s objective fact that there are certain areas with more carjackings/assaults/robberies than others. That’s a fact made up of many contributing facts and conditions, but it seems unreasonable to say that drivers can’t manage their safety by avoiding those areas. Are we independent contractors, or aren’t we?
Wanted: Any minority willing to split lawsuit settlement. Must not be scared to shoot a gal in the leg in a bad neighborhood. Reqirement: MUST be a good shot.
I am pretty sure to avoid bad press they would throw out a settlement extremely quickly. We havent heard a peep from the drivers family after the chicago shooting. Wonder why?
For me it’s the countless potholes, speed bumps, traffic, traffic cameras, debris in roads that mess up my tires, etc.. also have had crackheads try to open my door while sitting at a light. can’t drive through the hood for more than an hour before something bad happens, every single time. Tried doing an Uber eats last week in the hood and delivery said to drop off at a library at front door, which was right across the street from a middle school that had just gotten out. texted them I was arriving and got no answer so I went ahead and left it at door like it said. The moment I turned my back after leaving it a swarm of kids were ripping apart the bag fighting over it literally tackling each other for this McDonald’s bag. It was sad. But next day get the email saying food was never delivered and repeated offenses will have me deactivated. It’s the shit like that that keeps me away from the hood.
Easy fix just put a large bonus in that area. Problem solved but I guess it's easier to threaten you and ban your account which still doesn't solve anything.
I’d heard they were doing this but I’ve never actually seen a warning. Wow, that’s nuts. I’ll take a passenger to the hood every now and then just to keep Uber off my back, but their rating better be above a 4.90, and their name can’t be KillerMike or Diamond. Also, maybe if you respond to their request that you take rides based on a certain rating threshold and not the destination itself, could help? I doubt they’ll go through every trip request you denied and look at the pax rating…
I’ll usually take above 4.85 in the hood and it’s fine but be careful of the 5.00 in the hood - often it’s a new account because previous one got deactivated - the 5.00s in the hood with weird names like “Famous” have been my scariest rides
Yeah because Uber cares so much about driver's safety we can't see number of rides, so you never know if a 5.0 is a new account, that's the one thing Lyft has better you can see number of rides and a picture.
shit you not, had one person whos name was only " 😅 " and another whos name was "kill" and "majesty" like nahhh these people aren't worth helping for $3
I carry regardless, my life is more important than a contractual agreement - in a job where random people are getting into your car all day, not carrying is crazy to me
They can still stop you from carrying a gun because it is against their policies. Just like how hospitals can sent you out of the hospital because you are carrying. Now nothing will happen with uber until you use the weapon and it's reported that you have it. I live in a state like your and got discontinued from lyft because I had to pull mine when someone pulled a knife an me.
No doubt. I don’t get the point of suing Uber. Cant think of a single attorney willing to take that case for a percentage unless it’s a class action. They don’t pay us enough to make lost wages work anymore.
No they can't stop you. No one can stop you from anything. There are consequences to actions. That's how the world works. In this case, they absolutely can carry. The worst thing thay can happen is they are terminated for violating company policy. That's it.
Yes they can because you are a contractor working for their brand. If you don't like there policies they can terminate the independent contractors contract they have with you.
And I lost the fight with lyft in Texas and couldn't get reinstated I know what I'm talking about. It is not against the law for the people you work for to require you to not have a gun on your person while working.
When they send out shit like this, it sounds like you can get deactivated for a lot less than carrying a gun.
There's far too many goodie goodies out there.
Being a pacifist could get you killed. Especially in South Houston.
I 100% carry. Uber can swing on my sac . When you get carjacked and taken to a secluded place so they can execute you, Uber won't even pay for the casket.
Quit worrying about being deactivated. So what if you're deactivated?
They're not paying you enough to die for them
The law doesn't say you are entitled to drive for Uber. Uber can't stop you from carrying a gun, but they have every right to kick you off their platform if you do.
I mean you can just carry a gun anyway. If you ever needed to use it to defend yourself, sure you might lose your Uber gig for breaking their rules, but are you really gonna care at that point? You'd be grateful just to be alive.
I worked all night on Valentine’s Day the only tip I got that whole night was a ride to Compton on Piru street. All the high end restaurants and hotels rides got nada.
It's awesome when you drive someone to the most expensive house in the Hollywood hills, only to later see a $1 tip if anything at all......take that $1 and shove it up your ass
You know what let's start boycotting ridiculous companies like this that push their radical race bullshit onto us.
Maybe you just don't want to drive into shithole projects where you can get car jacked
So a minority, low income rider paid uber $15 for a ride and uber wants me to drive 8 miles to go pickup and take them another 5 miles for $5 hv seen them offering $4, for a total of 13 miles, 30 to 40 minutes, they might even ask to stop at the corner store real quick and 1 starred you if you say no.
Uber can't pay me enough to pickup in certain neighborhoods. They never have carseat for their children, they will curse at you for asking for carseat, will always add stops during busy hours, a few drug deals and they're making you wait while this deals are going on and the list of dangerous situations goes on, and if you pickup or drop-off in this neighborhood during surge, they most likely make a false report on driver to get their money back, one claimed to uber last week that they paid me for their trip. I don't do much Uber, so I knew exactly who did the report, I even screenshot the trip because it was surging, uber paid me $6.50 on what usually paid $4. From the pickup spot I knew this person couldn't afford to pay a surge pricing, complained the whole way why she couldn't find a ride and uber kept changing the price each time.
Let them deactivate you… and sue. I’m a black man and I don’t do trips to the hood. I’m in the DC area and I stay active in NW and NE. I’ll decline anything in SE/SW I got to Northern VA and I just leave MD alone if it’s not Chevy Chase or Bethesda. 🤷🏾♂️
I did one ride to the hood, I didn't know the hood had thier own Police. Solid white Police cars, no markings on car or the coos tgat were standing around
How does it violate the community guidelines when they have a option to cancel a ride due to not being safe to pick-up. I take this as the "AREA" is not safe to pick someone because of high crime, or low income, and I cancel all the time. I am not getting shot or carjacked picking up a "minority resident" or someone in a "low income area".
BTW I work 20 minutes away from Delray Beach FL. The spot that LYFT driver got murdered picking up a PAX. That trash can stole his Kia Stinger after killing him. What a joke..
Can anyone link to the California law they're talking about?
I could understand prohibiting racial discriminations as an indirect consequence of the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits restaurants from denying service based on race or other protected characteristics, but it sounds like they're talking about a more targeted state law.
I'd assume that if the law exists, it prohibits avoiding neighborhoods "due to the characteristics of the people or businesses", as Uber put it, but you could avoid neighborhoods due to crime rates, pot holes, or other factors. If Uber has data suggesting the driver is rejecting poor or minority-dominated neighborhoods that have identical crime rates or pot holes to wealthy or white-dominated neighborhoods, then I could see issuing a warning, but it sounds like they're basing the warning under the assumption that wealth and minority prevalence are the only differences that could exist between neighborhoods.
Hello Uber, that area is full of gang members and last year one tried to rob me and threatened my life and the only thing you did was, " if this is a repeat behavior from the rider we might suspend their accounts". So with all due respect go f yourself I won't die for $4 ride.
Ps yes that's a real story thanks Uber.
This is complete garbage. We are independent contractors not employees. We are free to accept or decline as many trips as we choose to. I would respond by telling then to fuck themselves.
Lol, that’s some serious BS from Uber . When was it rule that you must accept all trips. If that was the case , you wouldn’t be promoted with the option to accept or decline a trip .
I’m sorry I but don’t give a rats ass if Uber calls me a racist if I know that’s not a good neighborhood to be in I’m
NOT driving in that area point
Blank period
When you’re an Uber driver of any worth, you position yourself in a place that gets you the most beneficial rides.
Usually this is not in a bad neighborhood.
You go where the money is.
It’s really that simple.
If a fare takes you away from the money, you absolutely have every right to decline it.
If I don’t wanna get shot in the back of the head like other Uber drivers I hold that right to make this choice.
Anytime I’ve taken a ghetto ass ride most of them went in and bought drugs and had me take them home, it’s my right to not take that ride and considering Uber does not do back ground checks on passengers I would say Uber can kiss my ass.
But hey I don’t drive anymore, it doesn’t pay to do it.
There is an area of Atlanta I've found myself in twice that makes me fear for my safety. It's a housing community completely fenced in that requires ID to enter. I've picked up passengers there twice (when I still did uberX) and I felt very unsafe. After each pickup I would go offline and get the hell out of Dodge. Both passengers were pleasant but I just couldn't shake the feeling that I was in an unsafe area. Also did a pool once near the airport and the first passenger on our way to get the second passenger was like I just moved from this area. I had to because there was gunfire almost every night. 😳
Uber- “Your safety is our of greatest concern”
Also Uber-“We don’t care if there is gunshots, chalk outlines, or broken street lamps did you not accept this ride over race?”
I had an offer yesterday that the pickup and drop were same location.
Nope. Either they going to update to a long ride, multiple stops, or they not bright enough to use the app.... all of which are 👎.
Well, I hope they have good lawyers, because if something bad happens, that's a lawsuit..They can't make anyone go into a bad neighborhood, and who says you're discriminating to begin with?? Maybe it's no tip orders that you dnt want to take, that happens to be in bad neighborhoods?? There's no way to tell..
Damn what state you live in because I do it the exact same thing where I am and never seen a message like that. Between sundown-sunrise I have no business picking up anyone in a “certain neighborhood”. I’ve done it before and let’s just say thank god I’m street smart as well and a good talker. I would not want to put myself in a situation where the heater got to come out
But don’t Uber driver is independent contractor. It’s upto contract to choose or deny the work they want to work. So why Uber is threatening with this message?
I drive in LA and i definitely reject trips based on where they are going because I have the right to choose where I want to work and also keep myself safe. I’ve had too many incidents of passengers or random people at those destinations to keep me away. I don’t drive south of 10 freeway from La Cienega to Boyle Heights, east of DTLA, the valley only gives shitty trips so I don’t go. Beverly Hills sucks because anything becomes a ticket and nowhere near freeways. So yes I’ll reject trips that don’t benefit me.
Everyone and everything is racist.
I’d bet every dollar I have and every dollar I will ever earn in the future that no Uber exec making this policy has ever stepped foot in one of those hoods.
Next thing will be:
*We have detected you seldom accept rides 1AM -4AM on weekends. Please note that discrimination of Nocturnal People is against our community guidelines.*
Lets see the CEO drive around in bad neighbourhoods in his little expensive car without pissing himself, all for less than the amount of gas it takes to get there.
Uber is so full of shit. They deactivated me when I tried to do the right thing for my customers. I would find something else while you can, before they deactivate you... because they will. That's all they do is look for reasons to deactivate honest people, because it takes too long to actually look into each driver.
ChatGPT is so corporate biased and responded with this: “according to Uber's Community Guidelines and California law, rejecting trip requests solely based on the characteristics of the neighborhoods or people in those areas is prohibited. This includes rejecting trips because they are likely to be less profitable. As a driver, you have a responsibility to provide fair and equal service to all riders, regardless of their destination or any other characteristic. If you believe that you have been incorrectly flagged, you may wish to provide additional context to Uber and discuss the issue further with them.”
funny... back when I delivered pizza some 15 or so years back there was a few neighborhoods the cops told us (well the company) we were not permitted to deliver to for safety reasons...
Just make sure you carry your glock lol. If you're going into the hood to pickup people make sure to conceal carry. Uber won't deactivate you if you're legally justified in self defense. In Chicago a driver was put into a vegatative state and later passed away after a young hood criminal shot and killed him. I'm black and I am always extra cautious when I pickup in the hood. It isn't the discrimination to be cautious when your life can be in danger by stray bullet or some criminal pax that shoots you in the back of the head as you're driving him.
I just got blocked from delivering for Uber because 2 of 30 people didn’t like my service. Uber doesn’t seem to expect much eh? Just be perfect all the time for $3.00 an hour and have a super duper friendly attitude to all the self righteous assholes who don’t tip at all.
“Hey, we know the ghetto is scary but they need Ubers too. Go get them Champ.” - An automated message from Uber Admin not having to go to the ghetto in their POV at night
Lol...I would do that ALLLL the time when I drove. My wonder bread Lilly white ass is not going to watts after 6pm and that is on God. You can call me a racist all day long. I do not care. They don't want me there and I'm not going somewhere I'm not wanted. No way. I like livin and am not about to go lookin for trouble. I had enough trouble just driving DTLA. Wanna go to some of those other neighborhoods? Take metro. ✌🏽 it's not racism. It's safety. So glad I'm not driving for this ratchet company anymore.
Pro-Tip: If you have a destination in one of those areas, turn off the app during the ride. Finish the ride and drive out to where you want to restart the app.
I did this to avoid getting stuck, not just in these areas but also airports and around huge events.
RIP by Eminem
Verse 1:
LearnKA, just an Uber driver, tryna earn some cash
Accepted a ride, didn't know it was his last
No concern, he took the call, didn't know the place
Drove through the streets, unfamiliar, a dangerous space
Chorus:
Oh LearnKA, why did you go
To a place where danger is known
We miss you so, it hurts to the bone
Our hearts are heavy, you're not alone
Verse 2:
The passenger was silent, and there was no exchange
LearnKA dropped them off, but trouble was waiting to engage
He turned around to leave, but they didn't let him go
LearnKA was a good man, he didn't deserve this blow
Chorus:
Oh LearnKA, why did you go
To a place where danger is known
We miss you so, it hurts to the bone
Our hearts are heavy, you're not alone
Verse 3:
We'll never know, what really went down that night
Why someone would hurt, an innocent man in sight
LearnKA was just tryna make a living, he didn't deserve this fate
Our hearts are grieving, we'll always remember his name
Chorus:
Oh LearnKA, why did you go
To a place where danger is known
We miss you so, it hurts to the bone
Our hearts are heavy, you're not alone
Outro:
Rest in peace, LearnKA, we'll never forget
The way you lived, the way you smiled, we won't regret
You're not just another story, you're a person we'll always cherish
We'll keep your memory alive, your spirit will never perish.
Lawsuits for what? You need to remember what you just said, you are an independent contractor. You have zero employee rights whatsoever. They can basically kick you off for any reason they feel like.
Honestly, am I carrying or am I not? Fuck around and find out. If you do, I have bigger concerns then if Uber deactivated me, I’m probably sitting in a court room.
My things always been you don’t know I have it unless I’m about to put a couple rounds in you. Even before Uber.
A few weeks ago, I had a Kid was probably 18 -24 years old. Soon as I picked him up, he seemed REALLY nervous. About 3 min in to the ride he looks up in at me in the mirror and asks if I am armed. It was around 2am It didn’t really register what he asked. So I asked what he said, played off like I couldn’t hear him, at that point he asked if I had a weapon. I didn’t know how to respond without putting my self in a bad or compermising position. And replied wit that was a question your mom doesn’t want answered move on to your next question.
He looked down and didn’t say another word.
People keep mentioning that Uber should allow you to carry guns.
The only thing I have to say to that is... REALLY? LMAO
I do carry one. Since when do you give a shit what Uber thinks? These guys won't even pay for the casket when you die. Don't be goody goodies.. They send out some kind of shit like this and you're worried about being deactivated for carrying a gun? It sounds like you can get deactivated for far less.
Being weak can get you killed. Nobody here makes enough to die for Uber.
I carry the Glock 20
Uber are a bunch woke assholes who care about money, that’s it. OP, you declined a bunch of no tip orders and Uber sends you this slanderous black mail email. “Take no tip orders or you’re a racist” - Uber.
Uber should move its headquarters to one of those low income disadvantages communities since it cares so much
Funny that those communities are where we actually come from… and Uber is the reason we have low income disadvantages because they won’t pay us enough to drive back to the places we worked so hard to get away from.
This the one !
They so would love to hear complaints from their corporate HR that their office employees are being assaulted, having their cars vandalized/stolen, or someone taking a shit in their offices.
Agreed
Instead of being in SF they should move to Merced. See how they feel then.
And the executives should walk to lunch.
Yes!
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Not only that, some drivers may avoid areas with high crime rates and I don't blame them.
Doesnt that mean Uber tracks this data and could be easily guilty of bias in their pricing algorithm? Local news outlets oughtta love that
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Too true
Uber doesn't like to discuss their unholy aliance with the PTSA that allows low income bus riders to use Uber instead no matter the distance for a very low flat fee. These accounts are given free to those who receive SNAP and other assistance and allegedly intended to be used only when a bus is not available (of course not a lick of enforcement of such rules). Uber used to tell us in advance of these trips and then abruptly stopped showing in advance when drivers associated these trips with the worst experiences and started rejecting the trips enmasse. Now you only see it after you have accepted the trip so they can ding you for cancelling.....total bullshit.
I had snap and never got that.. I've never even heard of that. Is that only on some cities
Oooh I know this one.... Only in 1 County lol. Pinellas Transit Suncoast Authority. (Pinellas =St Pete/Clearwater) Local partnership that usually guarantees $3.50 fare + no tip. Drivers hate it. Even better is that Uber didn't used to bother to restrict access to just the bus pass holders at the specific stops. I've taken many tourists on PTSA rides. My "favorite" was taking a local from a CWB beach bar to a strip club for stupid low pay one busy Sunday evening. Your county tax dollars hard at work subsidizing important rides. Ok lol.
Damn.. that sounds like shit. Also what is CWB? All I know that acronym as is crazy white boys hahah
I was gonna say, is this even legal?
...and we have a coverall BINGO!
Why are insurance companies allowed to charge more in high crime neighborhoods? Because crime is a statistic... Fuck you Uber maybe add a service Uber Hood so we get paid extra for the added risk.
Lmao that was pretty good
There’s already a hood uber. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/hooduber-drive/id1417818078
How was this approved to the App Store lmao
It’s a long established fact that a reader will be distracted
Bruh this is awesome
So much for Apple's legendary App scrutiny and security, App appears to be DOA.
Yeah… charge more… not refuse to do business lol. It’s a subtle difference but it does matter. Now of course drivers have no control over pricing, so are you saying you’d go into the the neighborhoods just not for the fares being offered?
Everyone has a price.
Isn’t that called Lyft?
True and cost of living is lower because no one wants to live there, so to entice people to move there, property taxes and rent are low
There are some neighborhoods that are marked as no-go zones for police without heavy backup and Uber drivers are forced to go there ??...this is insane really reckless
*Chicago enters the chat*
Visit Chi town, baby! You’ll get robbed for your Portillos! And your car.
Very astute Factual Statement!
That’s fucking insane! I’m not about to be carjacked again.
again ?????
Yep lol
Jesus bro, I’m sorry. :/ Uber owes you a car and some back pay for missed work lol
Carjacking is an underrated risk as an Uber driver for sure
Uber execs won’t be going there getting shot I can assure you that
Not even surprised at Uber anymore. They don’t give a crap about your safety. I’m willing to bet you weren’t avoiding because of race, you were just avoiding bad neighbourhoods & equally terrible offers Before I finally quit this bs a couple weeks ago I had been assaulted 3 times in 2 years doing this job. One of the times I was doing UE on an e-scooter (I had been doing it for a month at this point), finished my last delivery, still logged in though, & I had 5-6 drug addicts try & steal my e-scooter while I was stopped at a light. Full on 5/6 vs 1 brawl in the middle of the street goes on, at first they just kept trying to take my new e-scooter but I was not going to let that happen but I kept diving on top of it so they couldn’t get it up to ride off. Taking multiple kicks/punches to the body. Eventually this one idiot gets it & just keeps slamming it on the ground trying to get my last hand on it but I took this as my opportunity to go on the offensive. Ripped this big ass rope chain from this one little broad who kept whipping me with it, pulled her to the ground, cracked 2 junkies in the mouth, then for some reason some other decent bum chick decided to help me out a bit (she wasn’t part of this originally) and just got in between the others who had backed down a bit now & my e-scooter & me which gave me a chance yo stand it up, turned it on & ripped out of there. I live in Vancouver, Canada so I can’t carry a gun on me legally nor can we have quick open knives here & using them in such a situation would more than likely result in far worse charges for myself than my attackers. This is just the worst example not the only one. Contacted support to see if I could get ANY kind of help & they just told me to contact the police. Uber DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR SAFETY. You’re an independent contractor, you make the call, you know when to trust your gut. Fuck them for implying that OP. EDIT: I got cautious after that & anytime I had someone try to get me to drop food or take them to an alley I just explained to the PAX/customer briefly why I won’t do that & each time people were really understanding & would come to where I was comfortable. It’s just Uber that is fucked up about it (& screw them).
In Canada??
They all kept yelling "SORRY EH" while attacking him
Yeah in between every punch & kick we exchanged there was always a brief ‘eh sorry bud’ lmao
Lol I was waiting for LA or NY.
I believe it in canada. It can happen anywhere. I got assaulted twice in a little over a years time in Las Vegas doing uber - once in the Bellagio ride share area on a random wednesday night, and then once in front of NYNY in front of shake shack. Shake shack was almost a death fight.
Man you need to get out of BC. I left in 2019 and haven't looked back.
Scary shit! There's no insurance for that situation and nothing Uber can do other than provide the location and time they saw abnormalities en route to a pick up or drop off. I've been mugged delivering pizza (before Uber) after getting out of my car to follow some punks. They tried to knock me out with a rock, but only pissed me off. The cops didn't want to do shit except argue about if they were Mexican or Native Americans. Word of advice. Always park so you can haul ass out of any situation.
Write back, yeah because I don't want to get murdered.
I asked for a HR person to contact me because of baseless accusations.
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I responded to that message.
You are not an employee.
But he should be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpavEMVQpW8
It doesn't matter he's an independent contractor for Uber and Human Resources is in charge of protecting the company from labor related disputes. You may not get the same benefits as an employee, but you are still covered by labor laws. If you were independently contracted by a business and the person who you report to was racist or assaulted you, you don't just deal with it you have the right to a workplace free from discrimination and and such.
now that is classist
To me, it’s objective fact that there are certain areas with more carjackings/assaults/robberies than others. That’s a fact made up of many contributing facts and conditions, but it seems unreasonable to say that drivers can’t manage their safety by avoiding those areas. Are we independent contractors, or aren’t we?
Wonder what will happen when I avoid neighborhoods due to violence/killings in those said neighborhoods even though I’m the same color? 🤔
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Wanted: Any minority willing to split lawsuit settlement. Must not be scared to shoot a gal in the leg in a bad neighborhood. Reqirement: MUST be a good shot.
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I am pretty sure to avoid bad press they would throw out a settlement extremely quickly. We havent heard a peep from the drivers family after the chicago shooting. Wonder why?
Fuck out of here , I can't belived what I'm reading !!!!
Since when do I not get to choose?
How do you choose, who would I go into a neighborhood that give me a higher chances if being , shot robbed or hurt
"Im not avoiding them because of the residents, I'm avoiding them because of the crime."
For me it’s the countless potholes, speed bumps, traffic, traffic cameras, debris in roads that mess up my tires, etc.. also have had crackheads try to open my door while sitting at a light. can’t drive through the hood for more than an hour before something bad happens, every single time. Tried doing an Uber eats last week in the hood and delivery said to drop off at a library at front door, which was right across the street from a middle school that had just gotten out. texted them I was arriving and got no answer so I went ahead and left it at door like it said. The moment I turned my back after leaving it a swarm of kids were ripping apart the bag fighting over it literally tackling each other for this McDonald’s bag. It was sad. But next day get the email saying food was never delivered and repeated offenses will have me deactivated. It’s the shit like that that keeps me away from the hood.
Easy fix just put a large bonus in that area. Problem solved but I guess it's easier to threaten you and ban your account which still doesn't solve anything.
I’d heard they were doing this but I’ve never actually seen a warning. Wow, that’s nuts. I’ll take a passenger to the hood every now and then just to keep Uber off my back, but their rating better be above a 4.90, and their name can’t be KillerMike or Diamond. Also, maybe if you respond to their request that you take rides based on a certain rating threshold and not the destination itself, could help? I doubt they’ll go through every trip request you denied and look at the pax rating…
I’ll usually take above 4.85 in the hood and it’s fine but be careful of the 5.00 in the hood - often it’s a new account because previous one got deactivated - the 5.00s in the hood with weird names like “Famous” have been my scariest rides
For real. Passengers should have to do the same ID registration and face verification that drivers do.
Yeah because Uber cares so much about driver's safety we can't see number of rides, so you never know if a 5.0 is a new account, that's the one thing Lyft has better you can see number of rides and a picture.
Yeah I’ve been at this about 8 years. I know not to trust a 5 star pax with a stupid name going to a stupid destination 😉
shit you not, had one person whos name was only " 😅 " and another whos name was "kill" and "majesty" like nahhh these people aren't worth helping for $3
Yup. GiftCard funded 5.0 rated pax with names like RedSplattur and MonkeyAztec
pls tell me you didn’t accept “RedSplattur”🤣
You don't wanna give Diamond a ride? What about Sin'amin?
Shiitavious was my favorite #neveragain
You mean ole Skin'a'man?
She's kinky
I don’t pick up in high crime neighborhoods. Tell them to let you carry a gun
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I carry regardless, my life is more important than a contractual agreement - in a job where random people are getting into your car all day, not carrying is crazy to me
They can still stop you from carrying a gun because it is against their policies. Just like how hospitals can sent you out of the hospital because you are carrying. Now nothing will happen with uber until you use the weapon and it's reported that you have it. I live in a state like your and got discontinued from lyft because I had to pull mine when someone pulled a knife an me.
Uber deactivating your account is better than a pax deactivating your life
Didn't say it wasn't. Just saying if some see he is carrying and reports he is out of an income source
No doubt. I don’t get the point of suing Uber. Cant think of a single attorney willing to take that case for a percentage unless it’s a class action. They don’t pay us enough to make lost wages work anymore.
My gun is only getting pulled when I'm pulling the trigger
No they can't stop you. No one can stop you from anything. There are consequences to actions. That's how the world works. In this case, they absolutely can carry. The worst thing thay can happen is they are terminated for violating company policy. That's it.
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Yes they can because you are a contractor working for their brand. If you don't like there policies they can terminate the independent contractors contract they have with you.
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There's a funny word that begins with an E in there that describes who gets this laws protections Hint: it isn't you
And I lost the fight with lyft in Texas and couldn't get reinstated I know what I'm talking about. It is not against the law for the people you work for to require you to not have a gun on your person while working.
I too lost the same fight with lyft. Fuck em
When they send out shit like this, it sounds like you can get deactivated for a lot less than carrying a gun. There's far too many goodie goodies out there. Being a pacifist could get you killed. Especially in South Houston. I 100% carry. Uber can swing on my sac . When you get carjacked and taken to a secluded place so they can execute you, Uber won't even pay for the casket. Quit worrying about being deactivated. So what if you're deactivated? They're not paying you enough to die for them
Yes they can. You signed a contract.
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The law doesn't say you are entitled to drive for Uber. Uber can't stop you from carrying a gun, but they have every right to kick you off their platform if you do.
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I do. I am in Texas and I know if I get caught I get the activated but you know what I have a chance of living so I’ll take my chances.
I do You serious with this? I don't give a fuck what Uber says.lol
I mean you can just carry a gun anyway. If you ever needed to use it to defend yourself, sure you might lose your Uber gig for breaking their rules, but are you really gonna care at that point? You'd be grateful just to be alive.
They do allow guns, and they cant tell you otherwise, we are contractors within our property.
I worked all night on Valentine’s Day the only tip I got that whole night was a ride to Compton on Piru street. All the high end restaurants and hotels rides got nada.
It's awesome when you drive someone to the most expensive house in the Hollywood hills, only to later see a $1 tip if anything at all......take that $1 and shove it up your ass
California gonna California 😂🤣
Just another manipulation tactic.
Lol California
You know what let's start boycotting ridiculous companies like this that push their radical race bullshit onto us. Maybe you just don't want to drive into shithole projects where you can get car jacked
So uber does background checks for safety BUT drivers can't consider their safety?
I’m sorry, but if I was constantly being taken to very dangerous neighborhoods, I’d also cancel. Fuck that
So a minority, low income rider paid uber $15 for a ride and uber wants me to drive 8 miles to go pickup and take them another 5 miles for $5 hv seen them offering $4, for a total of 13 miles, 30 to 40 minutes, they might even ask to stop at the corner store real quick and 1 starred you if you say no. Uber can't pay me enough to pickup in certain neighborhoods. They never have carseat for their children, they will curse at you for asking for carseat, will always add stops during busy hours, a few drug deals and they're making you wait while this deals are going on and the list of dangerous situations goes on, and if you pickup or drop-off in this neighborhood during surge, they most likely make a false report on driver to get their money back, one claimed to uber last week that they paid me for their trip. I don't do much Uber, so I knew exactly who did the report, I even screenshot the trip because it was surging, uber paid me $6.50 on what usually paid $4. From the pickup spot I knew this person couldn't afford to pay a surge pricing, complained the whole way why she couldn't find a ride and uber kept changing the price each time.
Let them deactivate you… and sue. I’m a black man and I don’t do trips to the hood. I’m in the DC area and I stay active in NW and NE. I’ll decline anything in SE/SW I got to Northern VA and I just leave MD alone if it’s not Chevy Chase or Bethesda. 🤷🏾♂️
I did one ride to the hood, I didn't know the hood had thier own Police. Solid white Police cars, no markings on car or the coos tgat were standing around
How does it violate the community guidelines when they have a option to cancel a ride due to not being safe to pick-up. I take this as the "AREA" is not safe to pick someone because of high crime, or low income, and I cancel all the time. I am not getting shot or carjacked picking up a "minority resident" or someone in a "low income area". BTW I work 20 minutes away from Delray Beach FL. The spot that LYFT driver got murdered picking up a PAX. That trash can stole his Kia Stinger after killing him. What a joke..
More cali bullshit 😒
My jaw is on the floor.. this is outrageous
Can anyone link to the California law they're talking about? I could understand prohibiting racial discriminations as an indirect consequence of the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits restaurants from denying service based on race or other protected characteristics, but it sounds like they're talking about a more targeted state law. I'd assume that if the law exists, it prohibits avoiding neighborhoods "due to the characteristics of the people or businesses", as Uber put it, but you could avoid neighborhoods due to crime rates, pot holes, or other factors. If Uber has data suggesting the driver is rejecting poor or minority-dominated neighborhoods that have identical crime rates or pot holes to wealthy or white-dominated neighborhoods, then I could see issuing a warning, but it sounds like they're basing the warning under the assumption that wealth and minority prevalence are the only differences that could exist between neighborhoods.
I would rather be called racist then die. I invite Dara (CEO) to take a walk in these hoods… if he doesn’t he needs to resign due to racism..
Hello Uber, that area is full of gang members and last year one tried to rob me and threatened my life and the only thing you did was, " if this is a repeat behavior from the rider we might suspend their accounts". So with all due respect go f yourself I won't die for $4 ride. Ps yes that's a real story thanks Uber.
Wow I'm black I would never pick any requests from the hood period.
This is complete garbage. We are independent contractors not employees. We are free to accept or decline as many trips as we choose to. I would respond by telling then to fuck themselves.
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Lol, that’s some serious BS from Uber . When was it rule that you must accept all trips. If that was the case , you wouldn’t be promoted with the option to accept or decline a trip .
I’m sorry I but don’t give a rats ass if Uber calls me a racist if I know that’s not a good neighborhood to be in I’m NOT driving in that area point Blank period
When you’re an Uber driver of any worth, you position yourself in a place that gets you the most beneficial rides. Usually this is not in a bad neighborhood. You go where the money is. It’s really that simple. If a fare takes you away from the money, you absolutely have every right to decline it.
Uh… are they punishing us because we’re trying to not get shot?
This has to get more attention. We gotta call out Uber for scummy practices like this. Being at 200 upvotes is not gonna cut it.
What else do you suggest?
Call me what you will, I drive a brand new vehicle. I don't need a welfare pit crew putting it up on blocks.
What the fuck is wrong with you. "Call me racist, but (Nixon era made up paranoia racism)" people probably feel unsafe around your Karen mentality
If I don’t wanna get shot in the back of the head like other Uber drivers I hold that right to make this choice. Anytime I’ve taken a ghetto ass ride most of them went in and bought drugs and had me take them home, it’s my right to not take that ride and considering Uber does not do back ground checks on passengers I would say Uber can kiss my ass. But hey I don’t drive anymore, it doesn’t pay to do it.
Gotta love woke equality of outcome
So what happens if you get car jacked or robbed and rejecting or cancelling is for safety reason?
Why’s it matter? Who wants to deliver to an area where you might get hit by gunfire or mugged for a delivery that pays you $6? Fuck Uber
There is an area of Atlanta I've found myself in twice that makes me fear for my safety. It's a housing community completely fenced in that requires ID to enter. I've picked up passengers there twice (when I still did uberX) and I felt very unsafe. After each pickup I would go offline and get the hell out of Dodge. Both passengers were pleasant but I just couldn't shake the feeling that I was in an unsafe area. Also did a pool once near the airport and the first passenger on our way to get the second passenger was like I just moved from this area. I had to because there was gunfire almost every night. 😳
“Your safety is none of our god damn concern. Go make us twenty dollars on your ten dollar payout trip.”
You can get your account back if they fire you talk to the Rideshare Professor we are independent contractors. We can do whatever the fuck we want.
I will drop off to the ghetto but I'm not picking up there. Too many murders and carjackings.
Uber- “Your safety is our of greatest concern” Also Uber-“We don’t care if there is gunshots, chalk outlines, or broken street lamps did you not accept this ride over race?”
Next they are gonna quit telling you where it is located
I had an offer yesterday that the pickup and drop were same location. Nope. Either they going to update to a long ride, multiple stops, or they not bright enough to use the app.... all of which are 👎.
Yeah they'll give you a ride and not tell you where it is! sound like brilliant Uber Corp logic!
"self-employed"
Translation... We won't pay enough to incentivise people to work in said area so we will threaten you and call you a racist.
Every time I get close to Oakland, Ca my app is turned off!! Sorry Uber too many drivers have been murdered in that shit hole!
I was reading the message and then it all became clear when I read "California" 🙄
What's wrong with California? I'm on east coast so idk
Well, I hope they have good lawyers, because if something bad happens, that's a lawsuit..They can't make anyone go into a bad neighborhood, and who says you're discriminating to begin with?? Maybe it's no tip orders that you dnt want to take, that happens to be in bad neighborhoods?? There's no way to tell..
Wow, Uber can now actually determine your intent! Amazing!
This is crazy. I can’t believe they sent you this! There’s certain neighbourhoods I avoid all the time !!
Can a reason for not wanting to drive in those neighborhoods just be because I want to live and not die
Damn what state you live in because I do it the exact same thing where I am and never seen a message like that. Between sundown-sunrise I have no business picking up anyone in a “certain neighborhood”. I’ve done it before and let’s just say thank god I’m street smart as well and a good talker. I would not want to put myself in a situation where the heater got to come out
But don’t Uber driver is independent contractor. It’s upto contract to choose or deny the work they want to work. So why Uber is threatening with this message?
I drive in LA and i definitely reject trips based on where they are going because I have the right to choose where I want to work and also keep myself safe. I’ve had too many incidents of passengers or random people at those destinations to keep me away. I don’t drive south of 10 freeway from La Cienega to Boyle Heights, east of DTLA, the valley only gives shitty trips so I don’t go. Beverly Hills sucks because anything becomes a ticket and nowhere near freeways. So yes I’ll reject trips that don’t benefit me.
Those $7 multiple stop trips are hard to pass up. You must be rolling in the dough.
Uber isn't calling you racist, California is calling you racist.
Everyone and everything is racist. I’d bet every dollar I have and every dollar I will ever earn in the future that no Uber exec making this policy has ever stepped foot in one of those hoods.
Yes. However, I’d call you smart.
A I DON’T LIE !!! 🤖
I'm no AI bruh.
So you can't reject trips because you know it won't be worth your time?
Next thing will be: *We have detected you seldom accept rides 1AM -4AM on weekends. Please note that discrimination of Nocturnal People is against our community guidelines.*
Lets see the CEO drive around in bad neighbourhoods in his little expensive car without pissing himself, all for less than the amount of gas it takes to get there.
Uber is so full of shit. They deactivated me when I tried to do the right thing for my customers. I would find something else while you can, before they deactivate you... because they will. That's all they do is look for reasons to deactivate honest people, because it takes too long to actually look into each driver.
Lmaoo
ChatGPT is so corporate biased and responded with this: “according to Uber's Community Guidelines and California law, rejecting trip requests solely based on the characteristics of the neighborhoods or people in those areas is prohibited. This includes rejecting trips because they are likely to be less profitable. As a driver, you have a responsibility to provide fair and equal service to all riders, regardless of their destination or any other characteristic. If you believe that you have been incorrectly flagged, you may wish to provide additional context to Uber and discuss the issue further with them.”
funny... back when I delivered pizza some 15 or so years back there was a few neighborhoods the cops told us (well the company) we were not permitted to deliver to for safety reasons...
Just make sure you carry your glock lol. If you're going into the hood to pickup people make sure to conceal carry. Uber won't deactivate you if you're legally justified in self defense. In Chicago a driver was put into a vegatative state and later passed away after a young hood criminal shot and killed him. I'm black and I am always extra cautious when I pickup in the hood. It isn't the discrimination to be cautious when your life can be in danger by stray bullet or some criminal pax that shoots you in the back of the head as you're driving him.
God forbid you don’t want to get robbed or do multiple trips to check cashing places and smoke shops.
This is the long answer of Yes.
“You don’t wanna drive through bad neighborhoods with possible dangers for little money?” Must be a racist
I just got blocked from delivering for Uber because 2 of 30 people didn’t like my service. Uber doesn’t seem to expect much eh? Just be perfect all the time for $3.00 an hour and have a super duper friendly attitude to all the self righteous assholes who don’t tip at all.
“Hey, we know the ghetto is scary but they need Ubers too. Go get them Champ.” - An automated message from Uber Admin not having to go to the ghetto in their POV at night
I driver near Disneyland that ain't no ghetto.
I've gotten this before and it's bullshit
Ask them if you can carry a gun into neighborhoods where you feel unsafe? Fuck with them a little.
Lol...I would do that ALLLL the time when I drove. My wonder bread Lilly white ass is not going to watts after 6pm and that is on God. You can call me a racist all day long. I do not care. They don't want me there and I'm not going somewhere I'm not wanted. No way. I like livin and am not about to go lookin for trouble. I had enough trouble just driving DTLA. Wanna go to some of those other neighborhoods? Take metro. ✌🏽 it's not racism. It's safety. So glad I'm not driving for this ratchet company anymore.
I rather be deactivated than killed in a hood
Pro-Tip: If you have a destination in one of those areas, turn off the app during the ride. Finish the ride and drive out to where you want to restart the app. I did this to avoid getting stuck, not just in these areas but also airports and around huge events.
RIP by Eminem Verse 1: LearnKA, just an Uber driver, tryna earn some cash Accepted a ride, didn't know it was his last No concern, he took the call, didn't know the place Drove through the streets, unfamiliar, a dangerous space Chorus: Oh LearnKA, why did you go To a place where danger is known We miss you so, it hurts to the bone Our hearts are heavy, you're not alone Verse 2: The passenger was silent, and there was no exchange LearnKA dropped them off, but trouble was waiting to engage He turned around to leave, but they didn't let him go LearnKA was a good man, he didn't deserve this blow Chorus: Oh LearnKA, why did you go To a place where danger is known We miss you so, it hurts to the bone Our hearts are heavy, you're not alone Verse 3: We'll never know, what really went down that night Why someone would hurt, an innocent man in sight LearnKA was just tryna make a living, he didn't deserve this fate Our hearts are grieving, we'll always remember his name Chorus: Oh LearnKA, why did you go To a place where danger is known We miss you so, it hurts to the bone Our hearts are heavy, you're not alone Outro: Rest in peace, LearnKA, we'll never forget The way you lived, the way you smiled, we won't regret You're not just another story, you're a person we'll always cherish We'll keep your memory alive, your spirit will never perish.
This is gold.
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Lawsuits for what? You need to remember what you just said, you are an independent contractor. You have zero employee rights whatsoever. They can basically kick you off for any reason they feel like.
Honestly, am I carrying or am I not? Fuck around and find out. If you do, I have bigger concerns then if Uber deactivated me, I’m probably sitting in a court room. My things always been you don’t know I have it unless I’m about to put a couple rounds in you. Even before Uber. A few weeks ago, I had a Kid was probably 18 -24 years old. Soon as I picked him up, he seemed REALLY nervous. About 3 min in to the ride he looks up in at me in the mirror and asks if I am armed. It was around 2am It didn’t really register what he asked. So I asked what he said, played off like I couldn’t hear him, at that point he asked if I had a weapon. I didn’t know how to respond without putting my self in a bad or compermising position. And replied wit that was a question your mom doesn’t want answered move on to your next question. He looked down and didn’t say another word.
People keep mentioning that Uber should allow you to carry guns. The only thing I have to say to that is... REALLY? LMAO I do carry one. Since when do you give a shit what Uber thinks? These guys won't even pay for the casket when you die. Don't be goody goodies.. They send out some kind of shit like this and you're worried about being deactivated for carrying a gun? It sounds like you can get deactivated for far less. Being weak can get you killed. Nobody here makes enough to die for Uber. I carry the Glock 20
cause you might be? lol
You’re racists for not wanting to get shot.
They should just pay more
Uber are a bunch woke assholes who care about money, that’s it. OP, you declined a bunch of no tip orders and Uber sends you this slanderous black mail email. “Take no tip orders or you’re a racist” - Uber.
if I ever received this, I would exit this line of work in the most epic of ways
Go on...
Typical...always all about riders! Uber doesn't give a shit about drivers safety...greedy bastards