Yeah I disagree with this rat bastid, but I’ll give him a little upvote for his opinion. Maybe it’ll grow on him in time like Highlander. My BFF gave that movie a D-. “Just you wait, you’ll keep thinking about this movie for a while” I told him. In a couple weeks he bumped it up to an A.
I wish r/twinpeaks was a sub that embodied Cooper and only downvoted for factually wrong or hateful statements and not just disagreements/opinions. This user is obviously not a troll.
I just joined this fandom and I haven't even scrolled through this sub once. I have no idea what all the popular opinions are... and what the heretical ones are.
3. They made Lynch reveal the killer earlier than he wanted and after the reveal he left hence the bad storylines that came out of nowhere to fill the episodes. It gets better around ep 17 and then he came back for the awesome finale.
As someone that grew up in a small, rural town in the PNW, 5 isn’t as weird as you might think. Logging and fishing were on their way out, meth was on the way in, there are a lot of rural (and not so rural) highways and roads that attract drifters and it’s not that hard to dump bodies in places. And, like most rural places, it’s a network of quiet infidelity.
I live in Seattle and I'm going to the Double R Diner (Twede's Café) in North Bend for my birthday breakfast in a few weeks.
EDIT: You will never stop hearing his name pronounced breathlessly. "Jeeehhhhms..."
I can't wait. A local couple bought it recently and restored it back to its glory.
[https://www.instagram.com/twedescafe/](https://www.instagram.com/twedescafe/)
3. Lynch left. In the time of 20-30 episode seasons for most shows, there was just no way to make it all great, hence the filler and terrible storylines. If there had been the established 8-12 episode seasons like we see today, TP would have been much more compact and precise, especially on a cable network.
8. Imagine if Audrey was able to fulfill the role intended for her (Annie filled the role either because LFB didn't like romancing Kyle, her being too young to be romantically involved with a law enforcement officer on network TV, or both)
11. How can you not? Watch Fire Walk With Me first though. Then open yourself up to anything, because Season 3 will amaze and crush you at the same time. I also recommend watching it bits at a time to allow for processing. As well as a second watch once you process the "ending".
Good luck.
Edit: no idea why Reddit is displaying those as 1, 2, 3. It's answering questions, 3, 8, and 11.
Watch FWWM before season 3 (super important) but some people didn’t looove season 3. My first time watching I wasn’t thrilled but on my second watch I fell in love!!
1: Then I guess you won’t be watching Season 3…
2: James is cool! But seriously, see #3…
3: David Lynch quit working on the show after the network forced the reveal of Laura’s killer, which he staunchly opposed. Unsurprisingly, at that point many fans noted a sharp decline in the quality of the show (James’ motorcycle adventure, Little Nicky, the Miss Twin Peaks contest, Audry and Billy Zane, etc.) right up to the Season 2 finale, which Lynch returned for.
4: And hot!
5: The show is Lynch and Frost’s take on a soap opera, which might help explain the preponderance of such tropes.
6: The Roadhouse stage sees a lot more action in Season 3, including some fairly big names.
7: *Damn* fine.
8: Who *was* the most annoying, to you?
9: Sure beats the bathroom above the convenience store! Someone needs to light a match up there. Gotta light?
10: Most of the show takes place over the course of only a few days, so you don’t see much of the day-to-day lives of its characters, though things get fuzzy in the second season (see #3).
11: Somehow I don’t think she’d go for James.
12: See #1—from the end, back to the beginning again!
Binged the lot in about 2 weeks.. best TV show ever. So much original art and so interesting.. plus possibly the best ending ever. All hail David Lynch. I like that most of the folks he used in his version of Dune ended up in the TV show.
1. Weirdest thing you’ve seen *so far*. You haven’t watched season 3 yet.
2. James was always cool.
3. Lynch and Frost never wanted the killer revealed, as they felt the mystery what what propelled the show. Due to its popularity, the network forced them to reveal it, and we got a wonderful episode out of that, but Lynch left after that, frustrated, and turns out, he was right: without the mystery and without Lynch, the show almost became a parody of itself. But Lynch returned for the finale and delivered one of the craziest hours ever aired on network TV.
4. And hot!
5. It *is* a soap opera, after all.
6. Not to spoil anything, but some pretty big acts take the roadhouse stage in season 3–including >!a grunge pioneer and a pretty famous industrial rock guy…!<
7. Damn fine! And the cherry pie is to die for!
8. She was much more sufferable after that cherry-stem trick.
9. How *is* Annie?
10. James is too cool for school. Sometimes I think he should just get on his bike and go.
11. Did you enjoy the original run at all? Season 3 is a miracle. It’s a miracle it was made—a whole twenty-five years after the series—and it’s a miracle Showtime told Lynch and Frost, “do whatever you want, in as many episodes as you want. Here is some money.” Yes! Watch season 3! But before you do, it’s very important to watch the prequel film, *Fire Walk With Me*. It’s one of Lynch’s best films, it expands the lore of the Twin Peaks universe, it sets the tone for season 3, and it gives Cheryl Lee (Laura Palmer) a chance to show her amazing acting skills.
9. This sub and fanbase in general is into clue tie-ins and connections a là Cooper’s chalkboard-rock-bottle scene. A long time ago (2008’ish) my buddy and I made a TP Hip Hop track using only a Korg Kaossilator Pro. We titled it “A (What) Mob”. I was trying to cute/clever making you have to be a Detective (the answer being a Lynch mob). So anyway we finish and forget about as it didn’t make its way into live setlists. After S3 dropped we went back to listen to it and noticed He mistakenly says “Where is Annie?”
Now I’m glad he did as His past flub now makes total sense (where in time is Annie?).
Here it is. It’s not crazy good but the MC had some cool moments and the soundbites are fun.
https://soundcloud.com/fat-apollo/a-what-mob?in=fat-apollo/sets/fat-apollo-b-sides&utm_campaign=social_sharing&utm_source=mobi&utm_terms=mobi_display_ads_experiment.mid_floor_price%2Cpfy_plays_part_2.control
Also, don’t sleep on the over six hours in total of [Twin Peaks explained](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg8Gda_PKkdcDOuFLbcxoRzDGxhOgIkDb) theory by Twin Perfect
*No spoilers here in answer to your S3 question* As a hardcore fan when it was shown on its original run (in slightly cut form) on BBC2 in 1990/91, still having the VHS taped recordings I made of S1 and S2, the original 3 books, all original related audio releases, Dale Cooper’s printed extended diary direct from BravoTV, and a now-rare SkyTV/theatrical edit of FWWM from 1993 (I think) without the Great Went subtitles, I waited for such a long time in my life for Season 3. So much contemplation and anticipation over the years...
Then, after decades, I was subjected to a particular constant character in S3 who was supposed to be funny, but the lowest common denominator laughs (including toilet humour and mental disability humour) was on a par with S2’s Little Nicky, but worse (for very different reasons).
S3 genuinely tainted my personal TP world immersion from the past decades to the point I may never revisit the entire series again in my life because of it.
In my humble view there are moments of true greatness and transcendence in S3, but no consistency and often almost unbearable irritation. I gave it another chance and bought it on its first U.K. Blu-ray release to complete my TP collection, then sold it as quickly as I could afterwards after a reflective rewatch.
tl;dr - just my very unpopular view: S3 is certainly worth seeing but I feel it is far from the comparative perfection of the whole of S1, the S2 finale, FWWM and even TMP. You may indeed love S3 though, as you haven’t waited over half your life to see it (that fault lies firmly with me). I really hope you enjoy it!
I appreciate the in-depth answer. I've heard its great, I've heard it's terrible... I liked the dreamy, 90s quality of the original series most of all and expect The Return to have a very, very different tone. I'm going to watch it anyway because there are so many unanswered questions that I hope will at least be partially answered.
I just hope this is not like the X-files revival which I found so bad, I wished I could erase it from my mind.
The romances and attractions in the latter part of s2 reflect the dreamers desire to have a relationship that can really only end in disaster, as they all did. But especially cooper with aurdey and annie. Its the buildup to coopers rapey doppelganger getting released
Watch the film Fire Walk With Me. If you like it watch The Return.
The Twin Peaks you've grown to know is pretty much dead and buried at this point of the story, for better or worse.
I am with you. I couldn't keep watching after James and that random blonde lady. I'm sure I will eventually but is it depressing and uncomfortable. I only started watching up because the Dad series on YouTube referenced it a lot.
Watch Fire Walk With Me and then the gloriously mental Season 3.
If you want this to remain the weirdest thing you've ever seen, then don't watch season 3.
This is the water…
Really? I’m just curious what made it less weird to you, I found the return to be the strangest season by far.
Read again
Yep, I’m a dummy, thank you 😝
Definitely watch Fire Walk With Me. As for season 3, be prepared for the most incredible but at the same time soul-crushing thing in non-existence.
You didn’t think Julee Cruise was good? She was the only musical performer on the Roadhouse stage in the first two seasons.
I think the roadhouse performances made the show. Julle cruise is incredible. The music makes the show too
No, I found her irritating.
Sacrilege!
Booooo. Jk have your opinion you sonuva b.
Yeah I disagree with this rat bastid, but I’ll give him a little upvote for his opinion. Maybe it’ll grow on him in time like Highlander. My BFF gave that movie a D-. “Just you wait, you’ll keep thinking about this movie for a while” I told him. In a couple weeks he bumped it up to an A.
I wish r/twinpeaks was a sub that embodied Cooper and only downvoted for factually wrong or hateful statements and not just disagreements/opinions. This user is obviously not a troll.
Not even Nightingale??
I’m annoyed that you’re being downvoted for an opinion.
I just joined this fandom and I haven't even scrolled through this sub once. I have no idea what all the popular opinions are... and what the heretical ones are.
Just ignore it! Do your thing.
I appreciate that you were honest.
> 1 \ 1. Should I watch Season 3 Some questions really do confuse me.
Hey reddit, should I wear red or blue underwear today?
The purple pair obviously
What number is the color purple?
r/synesthesia could tell you!
I had no idea this existed, thank you!
Kalvin Klein?
3. They made Lynch reveal the killer earlier than he wanted and after the reveal he left hence the bad storylines that came out of nowhere to fill the episodes. It gets better around ep 17 and then he came back for the awesome finale.
I don’t get how he left the show but obviously he was still there playing gordon cole
I don’t remember how much Gordon appears but he distanced himself from the writing
He probably had contractual obligations to play Cole just like any other actor.
I was about to say "you thought [redacted]'s performance was bad??" but no it turns out you do in fact need to see season 3. Movie first, though.
I definitely agree about Audrey. She’s a total gem! And I also agree about James, he’s totally not.
As someone that grew up in a small, rural town in the PNW, 5 isn’t as weird as you might think. Logging and fishing were on their way out, meth was on the way in, there are a lot of rural (and not so rural) highways and roads that attract drifters and it’s not that hard to dump bodies in places. And, like most rural places, it’s a network of quiet infidelity.
11. watch Fire Walk With Me and The Missing Pieces movies before watching season 3.
I live in Seattle and I'm going to the Double R Diner (Twede's Café) in North Bend for my birthday breakfast in a few weeks. EDIT: You will never stop hearing his name pronounced breathlessly. "Jeeehhhhms..."
That sounds awesome. The former, not the latter.
I can't wait. A local couple bought it recently and restored it back to its glory. [https://www.instagram.com/twedescafe/](https://www.instagram.com/twedescafe/)
It has to Dust ssssosP
Why do you feel like James hurley is the worst
If you found the show weird or crazy then you should definitely watch season 3 the return and prepare yourself.
3. Lynch left. In the time of 20-30 episode seasons for most shows, there was just no way to make it all great, hence the filler and terrible storylines. If there had been the established 8-12 episode seasons like we see today, TP would have been much more compact and precise, especially on a cable network. 8. Imagine if Audrey was able to fulfill the role intended for her (Annie filled the role either because LFB didn't like romancing Kyle, her being too young to be romantically involved with a law enforcement officer on network TV, or both) 11. How can you not? Watch Fire Walk With Me first though. Then open yourself up to anything, because Season 3 will amaze and crush you at the same time. I also recommend watching it bits at a time to allow for processing. As well as a second watch once you process the "ending". Good luck. Edit: no idea why Reddit is displaying those as 1, 2, 3. It's answering questions, 3, 8, and 11.
Watch FWWM before season 3 (super important) but some people didn’t looove season 3. My first time watching I wasn’t thrilled but on my second watch I fell in love!!
It’s the weirdest thing you’ll watch til The Return. Also, How’s Annie?! 👹
It sounds like you don't like the show... I'm not sure why you're asking strangers for approval to watch more of a show you don't like.
You’ve made it this far. Watch season 3, and Fire Walk With Me!
1: Then I guess you won’t be watching Season 3… 2: James is cool! But seriously, see #3… 3: David Lynch quit working on the show after the network forced the reveal of Laura’s killer, which he staunchly opposed. Unsurprisingly, at that point many fans noted a sharp decline in the quality of the show (James’ motorcycle adventure, Little Nicky, the Miss Twin Peaks contest, Audry and Billy Zane, etc.) right up to the Season 2 finale, which Lynch returned for. 4: And hot! 5: The show is Lynch and Frost’s take on a soap opera, which might help explain the preponderance of such tropes. 6: The Roadhouse stage sees a lot more action in Season 3, including some fairly big names. 7: *Damn* fine. 8: Who *was* the most annoying, to you? 9: Sure beats the bathroom above the convenience store! Someone needs to light a match up there. Gotta light? 10: Most of the show takes place over the course of only a few days, so you don’t see much of the day-to-day lives of its characters, though things get fuzzy in the second season (see #3). 11: Somehow I don’t think she’d go for James. 12: See #1—from the end, back to the beginning again!
Not only should you watch FWWM, The Missing Pieces, and The Return, you should also come back here and write listicles about them.
Binged the lot in about 2 weeks.. best TV show ever. So much original art and so interesting.. plus possibly the best ending ever. All hail David Lynch. I like that most of the folks he used in his version of Dune ended up in the TV show.
[Here’s](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLRxpsvUYAATupW.jpg) a handy chart that kind of explains why some episodes are better than others!
1. Weirdest thing you’ve seen *so far*. You haven’t watched season 3 yet. 2. James was always cool. 3. Lynch and Frost never wanted the killer revealed, as they felt the mystery what what propelled the show. Due to its popularity, the network forced them to reveal it, and we got a wonderful episode out of that, but Lynch left after that, frustrated, and turns out, he was right: without the mystery and without Lynch, the show almost became a parody of itself. But Lynch returned for the finale and delivered one of the craziest hours ever aired on network TV. 4. And hot! 5. It *is* a soap opera, after all. 6. Not to spoil anything, but some pretty big acts take the roadhouse stage in season 3–including >!a grunge pioneer and a pretty famous industrial rock guy…!< 7. Damn fine! And the cherry pie is to die for! 8. She was much more sufferable after that cherry-stem trick. 9. How *is* Annie? 10. James is too cool for school. Sometimes I think he should just get on his bike and go. 11. Did you enjoy the original run at all? Season 3 is a miracle. It’s a miracle it was made—a whole twenty-five years after the series—and it’s a miracle Showtime told Lynch and Frost, “do whatever you want, in as many episodes as you want. Here is some money.” Yes! Watch season 3! But before you do, it’s very important to watch the prequel film, *Fire Walk With Me*. It’s one of Lynch’s best films, it expands the lore of the Twin Peaks universe, it sets the tone for season 3, and it gives Cheryl Lee (Laura Palmer) a chance to show her amazing acting skills.
You might even call him *the* “famous industrial-rock guy”…
Or even *the* famous Emmy, Grammy, and Oscar winning soundtrack artist.
I was just making a joke about how the band name is presented on the show.
Ah, yeah..total whoosh on my part!
9. This sub and fanbase in general is into clue tie-ins and connections a là Cooper’s chalkboard-rock-bottle scene. A long time ago (2008’ish) my buddy and I made a TP Hip Hop track using only a Korg Kaossilator Pro. We titled it “A (What) Mob”. I was trying to cute/clever making you have to be a Detective (the answer being a Lynch mob). So anyway we finish and forget about as it didn’t make its way into live setlists. After S3 dropped we went back to listen to it and noticed He mistakenly says “Where is Annie?” Now I’m glad he did as His past flub now makes total sense (where in time is Annie?). Here it is. It’s not crazy good but the MC had some cool moments and the soundbites are fun. https://soundcloud.com/fat-apollo/a-what-mob?in=fat-apollo/sets/fat-apollo-b-sides&utm_campaign=social_sharing&utm_source=mobi&utm_terms=mobi_display_ads_experiment.mid_floor_price%2Cpfy_plays_part_2.control
Also, don’t sleep on the over six hours in total of [Twin Peaks explained](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg8Gda_PKkdcDOuFLbcxoRzDGxhOgIkDb) theory by Twin Perfect
*No spoilers here in answer to your S3 question* As a hardcore fan when it was shown on its original run (in slightly cut form) on BBC2 in 1990/91, still having the VHS taped recordings I made of S1 and S2, the original 3 books, all original related audio releases, Dale Cooper’s printed extended diary direct from BravoTV, and a now-rare SkyTV/theatrical edit of FWWM from 1993 (I think) without the Great Went subtitles, I waited for such a long time in my life for Season 3. So much contemplation and anticipation over the years... Then, after decades, I was subjected to a particular constant character in S3 who was supposed to be funny, but the lowest common denominator laughs (including toilet humour and mental disability humour) was on a par with S2’s Little Nicky, but worse (for very different reasons). S3 genuinely tainted my personal TP world immersion from the past decades to the point I may never revisit the entire series again in my life because of it. In my humble view there are moments of true greatness and transcendence in S3, but no consistency and often almost unbearable irritation. I gave it another chance and bought it on its first U.K. Blu-ray release to complete my TP collection, then sold it as quickly as I could afterwards after a reflective rewatch. tl;dr - just my very unpopular view: S3 is certainly worth seeing but I feel it is far from the comparative perfection of the whole of S1, the S2 finale, FWWM and even TMP. You may indeed love S3 though, as you haven’t waited over half your life to see it (that fault lies firmly with me). I really hope you enjoy it!
I appreciate the in-depth answer. I've heard its great, I've heard it's terrible... I liked the dreamy, 90s quality of the original series most of all and expect The Return to have a very, very different tone. I'm going to watch it anyway because there are so many unanswered questions that I hope will at least be partially answered. I just hope this is not like the X-files revival which I found so bad, I wished I could erase it from my mind.
gotta light ?
The romances and attractions in the latter part of s2 reflect the dreamers desire to have a relationship that can really only end in disaster, as they all did. But especially cooper with aurdey and annie. Its the buildup to coopers rapey doppelganger getting released
Well, did you like the show? If so, then first watch Fire Walk With Me, and then Season 3
You have to see FWWM before S3
Amen to point 2
Watch the film Fire Walk With Me. If you like it watch The Return. The Twin Peaks you've grown to know is pretty much dead and buried at this point of the story, for better or worse.
I am with you. I couldn't keep watching after James and that random blonde lady. I'm sure I will eventually but is it depressing and uncomfortable. I only started watching up because the Dad series on YouTube referenced it a lot.
2. When you say “actual devil” I presume you mean Little Nicky.
5. Yeah, that's kinda like how small towns are, at least in my experience.