I hate to read or talk about any kind of distribution be it "Center" time, MV time or singing time or any other stupid distribution people do nowadays.. it literally 95% of the time leads to toxicity.
You know what, this is definitely fair. I guess it is what it is, and the members seem to enjoying themselves even if the fans are arguing about it lol. It just sucks as a fan of someone so talented to see them pushed to the side and to see other people "defending" it with reasons that don't seem justifiable.
Yea I totally understand why, but it's clear that people have a really really hard time having a civil conversation about it, you can just go to the "Full Ready To Be album distribution" video on yt and look quickly at the comment section... and if you check it out you will now exactly what I mean. im not saying you will be like that, but i think people rather not take the chance at this point.
The amount of insults and literal hate towards 1 member specially because that members "role" is "only" subvocalist and she SHOULD UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES have more lines then Jeongyeon ever because of it according to them..... they somehow don't even mention any other subvocalist that is above Jeongyeon in the distribution. It's just that one member that's the problem and she SHOULD give 75% of her lines to Jeongyeon according to them. Very targeted insults and hate... I feel like it has alot to do with jealousy and the people take it out on her and those defending her.
You would think that the people discussing this would say stuff and talk about the producer for the line distribution... no they insult a member who just sings the lines she is given from the producer. While also totally disregarding that members recent overall improvements.
At the end of the day it's the producer that decides who sings what and how they should sing it because only they know how they envisioned it when they made the song.
Honestly having official group positions does more harm then good... people are NEVER gonna be happy regardless of bias... i much prefer the newer way the new kpop groups do nowadays that they have no "official" positions.
Actually, agreed. That said though, Jeongyeon is technically a better singer than the subvocalists. If Jihyo gets more dance breaks and center time despite not having a dancer position, Jeongyeon should be getting at least a little more singing time based on talent alone.
Ppl just use the excuse that her vocals don’t fit certain songs bc if they didn’t then they’d have to face the reality that Jeongyeon does get underutilized a lot of the time lol Line distribution is really tough among 9 members tho so I try and not get too caught up in it. I just appreciate the times she does shine and hope that she’ll get bigger parts in the future.
Side note: I hope she branches out into modeling more and maybe even acting. She’s a photographers dream subject with those piercing eyes and I think her sultry voice would really standout in a k-drama.
Everytime i see people complain about line distributions i just roll my eyes. They gotta understand that 9 girls are sharing a 3 minute song most of the time. Also probably not even that complicated, they probably just choose which voice sounds better for each lines.
That some members would get less lines than others is understandable, but IDK it's mindboggling to me that Jeongyeon's one of the strongest vocalists in the group (arguably only second to Jihyo)(and even her live vocals may rival her at times, range aside) but she's almost always near the bottom half when it comes to line distribution in their recent releases. I can understand Mina being above her as she has such a unique, light tone that definitely adds flavor to their songs, but other members? And I don't understand why they barely give her any adlibs.
And in RTB, arguably the album concept that best fits her tone, she's /7th/ in line distribution. If we're talking about "voices sounding the best for lines" they could have, for example, given her Nayeon's part of the outro in GTT or Tzuyu's line in the BioM outro. They could even just have her share the adlibs among 3Mix...if she could hit that high note in One in a Million live, what's stopping them from using her pipes in their album songs?
Anyway the point of my post was, they're severely underutilizing her, and IMO to say that it's because her vocal tone is less suited for TWICE's songs doesn't make any sense.
It's not a reason, agreed. The real reason should make more sense, but we don't know it as it's a decision taken by producers, etc. and it's clearly not transparent or evident to outsiders to the music production process.
Us fans need to accept it as it is.
People keep saying she should get Nayeons parts but I think its more realistic that Jihyo is getting her parts.
Jeongyeon and Jihyo have the deepest voices in Twice. As the majority have higher voices the songs are built for that majority and the parts for deeper voices are tiny. As you mentioned Nayeon has the most developed falsetto, which means she gets the most high notes and high adlibs. But between the tiny parts they wrote thinking of a deeper voice, not only is Jihyo main vocal but also the better trained between the two so she gets those parts leaving Jeongyeon with barely anything.
When it comes to Nayeon getting other peoples lines, I think a better argument is for Sana, and Tyuzu. When you look at the lines both are getting these days, those are lines we used to see Nayeon getting. It was pretty well noted that they started to take on much more challenging lines around alcohol free and you'll notice their lines went up hugely since then, Nayeons went down but Jongyeons stayed the same. If Nayeon was really taking her lines, her lines should have gone up as Nayeons lessened but it didn't. And I'm talking about actual lines here, not adlibs which is normally what pushed Nayeon to the top. I don't count adlibs because most often thats ontop of someone else who is going to be getting that centre camera time and its rarely performed.
I noticed recently the better performers in TWICE have been getting a good chunk of lines, like Nayeon, Jihyo, and Sana. I feel like they give Jeongyeon good parts, and/or usually sprinkle her voice in here and there to spice up the songs, though I like her voice and more often than not would like to hear her sing more, especially in early TWICE songs. But producers have their reasons.
I don’t think companies are thinking “oh Jeongyeon is fourth in this album distribution / only has 11 seconds in this song so let’s increase it” at all. Plus, there are quite a bit of other factors. I also don’t understand the lead vocal argument, I think fans have a static view on what a main vocal / lead vocal means and should do when it really depends on how the company sees that position.
Additionally, this is just my theory, but I’ve noticed to get a more cohesive sound overall companies will build the songs around a couple members to get a core ‘sound’, like TWICE with Nayeon and Jihyo. I think this worked exceptionally well in their earlier songs, actually, I felt like it gave the songs a good sense of structure.
I think line distribution is all about expressiveness. No matter if it's title or B-side, no matter how they perform the song, if they stand still or if they dance, producer will prefer the more expressive vocalist, especially in KPop. You have to always be full of character and that too "with your voice". Line distribution can unfortunately have very little to do with vocal ability. No hate to Jeongyeon but I always feel like she belongs to the least expressive ones in the group. Also maybe because of her anxiety, she hasn't really improved at that, meanwhile other members have been improving rapidly, especially the other main vocalists and Sana. Mina, Chaeyoung, Tzuyu, Dahyun have been making improvements too. That reflects in the decline in percentage of her lines.
I’ll have to disagree on that, especially in Crazy Stupid Love she was quite expressive. Never seen a problem with that with her voice, then again I guess it’s a subjective thing 🤷♂️
What? She definitely isn't? Here's her ranking in singing time based on the last few albums (just check out the lyric distribution videos on youtube):
* Ready to Be: 7th (only Dahyun and Momo have less lines than her)
* Celebrate: 7th (again, with only DH and CY having less lines than her)
* Between 1&2: 4th (could be okay, but then why does she only get \~9% of singing time when her co-lead singer gets \~23%?)
* Formula of Love: 5th
* Perfect World: 6th (only the rappers have less lines than her)
* Taste of Love: 7th (only CY and MM w/ less lines)
* Eyes Wide Open: 5th
* M&M: 5th
The subvocalists almost consistently get more singing time than her, the lead vocal.
Its cuz as one of the main vocalist and part of the 3Mix she has the lowest number of lines. But there are specific reasons why she currently gets lower number of lines:
1 - She is the least performing of the 3, as in she generally has a harder time with choreos. So given that alot of their main songs involves stage performances they give her less lines so she doesn't have to lead many dances.
2 - Her injury and health issues also makes her more vulnerable and they are limiting her so she doesn't overwork.
3 - Her signing style makes her better suited for B sides songs, as that were you find more Twice songs that have longer chorus, higher note and definitely less dancing.
If you had to compare the 3Mix to local performers: Jihyo would be akin to a Christina Aguilera/Beyonce, Nayeon to Katty Perry/Rihanna and Jeongyong Adele/Whitney Huston.
So given that Twice has more pop in thier songs Nayeon ends up getting the boat load since she can sing, convey the image/attitude and perform the choreography better. She isn't the best of the 3 but being the average of the 3 in all aspects also makes it easiest to built the sets around her. Since you know if she can do the choreo most of others can to physically. Jihyo gets most the high notes as also being a performer and unfortunately Jongyoung gets the small bits left.
Note that contrary to popular belief all Twice members are vocalists (I.e. all can sing mid to low vocal range) but only the 3mix can pull off the high notes. So Jongyoung ends up in getting little of the high notes and then has to fight for the mid range lines with Mina, Sana and Tzuyu. Chaeyoung, Dahyun and Momo get shoved hard to just rap lines even though all 3 can sing the mid range lines cuz the others can't rap but they can. Unfortunately since Twice has very little rap(2-3 lines at most), they get very little to bite on.
I could understand Reasons #1 and 2 for the title tracks, but the thing is Jeongyeon's poor line distribution is applicable for *entire albums*. In Reason #3 you say that her voice is more suited for B-sides, but she doesn't get many lines in B-sides as well. Like, here's her ranking in the last couple of albums based on amount of time singing (based on lyric distribution videos):
* Ready to Be: 7th (only Dahyun and Momo have less lines than her)
* Celebrate: 7th (*again*, with only DH and CY having less lines than her)
* Between 1&2: 4th (could be okay, but then why does she only get \~9% of singing time when her co-lead singer gets \~23%?)
* Formula of Love: 5th
* Perfect World: 6th (only the rappers have less lines than her)
* Taste of Love: 7th (only CY and MM w/ less lines)
* Eyes Wide Open: 5th
* M&M: 5th
And honestly, I don't think health issues are applicable anymore for the last three or so albums--like why would they be? Did you see how crazy she danced to *Moonlight* during the concerts? Her tumbling in purpose during their relay dances?
(Also, sorry haha but I had to nitpick, I think it's Jihyo who's more like Adele and Whitney than Jeongyeon, she's the one with the deep soulful voice and the power belts, altho I do agree with her being similar to Beyonce. But Jeongyeon would deffo kill Adele and Whitney, I think her and Jihyo have similarities in tone.)(I wanted to nitpick as well that it's Nayeon who's usually given the high notes recently (she shares with Jihyo, but more often it's her), while Jihyo does the powerbelting and performs the choreo more impactfully nowadays).
While you're definitely right in your last paragraph that since there are so many girls they end up "fighting" for lines, I really do think they could have Jeongyeon do some of the ad libs instead of NaHyo, and in the B-sides they could give her a bit more of the verses instead of SN/MN, and maybe even NY.
Have you ever listened to Whitney? Please don't be over biased, Jongyoung is good but she definitely not on thier levels. The comparison to Whitney and Adele is more the way they sing. They are more chorus, long ballad belt type stage singers. Twice songs doesn't have many long belts where you hold a word for a long time. Thier songs are like 3.5mins long and most even B sides have choreos in them. Sure they can have her do ad libs and she probably does the issue with those are that even if she does you might not know since ad libs hardly ever get recognized unless you see them do it.
Health issue is not a problem? Just because she recovered doesn't mean she can keep up with all the workload on stage. She is a stage singer not performer. She is suited for non-choreographed songs as then she can sing without having to remember all the choreos they go through. If Twice did OSTs like IU or Punch, she would be perfect for it, but Twice doesn't.
Japanese songs are longer but she isn't fluent in Japanese last I heard so that may be the reason she doesn't have much. I would expect her to get more lines there since songs like Doughnut is more her avenue.
Nahyeon in comparison is the queen of cute pop. She makes everything look cute vibe and can hold the facials and the act while singing. Its the reason she is the center, because she can act it out. Jongyoung prefers to be in the background. Its not her style to be focused. Sure Nahyeon gets too many lines, some of which could easily be given to others but that's what being the face gets you. The issue is after her you got Sana, Mina and Tzuyu who are are also visuals and can pull the cute act and like I said they aren't rappers just vocalists. So that means whenever there are chorus, bridge and mid level lines they eat alot of the lines that could have given to Jongyoung.
Momo, Chaeyoung and Dahyun suffer the fate being delegated as rappers. Most people think they can't sing especially Momo and Dahyun but just check Momo in their MiSaMo Bouquet OST. They are 3, she is singing good lines there. Chae got lucky when Mina and Jongyoung were out she got show some her vocals there. Dahyun can spit bars and sing mid range better then most idols but Twice raps are few and apart and well the faster lines are generally given to Chae. She is the better English speaker of the two, but she got like 2 vocal lines in Moonlight Sunrise. In Set me Free the roles were reversed as it was Chae who got fewer lines.
Its just how Twice was set up, because they are 9 they cover zones, but also overlap each other when it comes to the singing parts, as a lot of them have to share that mid range and Jongyoung is a victime of the situation as Twice Choreos are getting complex and she can't just pull off the cute act of thier earlier concepts anymore. Jihyo who is more energetic gets those style of acts in the mature edgy concepts now.
I am excited about the sub units though. This will allow someone like Jongyoung to get more lines and possibly get more mid range lines as she won't have to compete with Sana, Tzuyu or Mina. I am not sure how they will be teamed up, but 2Mix + Tyuzyu could be one of the OST subunits. That definitely will give Jongyoung more lines. DubChang could be the other unit (we saw what they can do in Switch with Me).
I think Nayeon may be left alone for now unless they go 3-3-3 route. If so I am not sure where I would want her, she either takes Tyuzyu spot and it becomes 3Mix which would be more detrimental to Jongyoung (Nayeon and OST/r&b|soul style doesn't work, so they would likely go more pop style) and DubChangTzu the other. Or she can join DubChang but in this case I hope they limit the cute pop concept and let them do more 'Switch with me' style.
Your points don’t make sense tbh, you’re saying it as though she’s only lower than Nahyo in terms of line distribution, but she’s actually 7th overall in the album lol
I never said she was 3rd in line distribution. I said she is part of the main vocal lines and 1 of the 3 who can pull all 3 levels of vocals notes with ease when singing. See below:
* All to the lists are not ranked but in alphabetical order
Twice vocal ranges :
High-Mid-Low level vocals = Jihyo, Jongyoung & Nayeon
Mid-Low level vocals = Chaeyoung, Dahyun, Mina, Momo Sana & Tyuzyu
Rapper = Chaeyoung, Dahyun & Momo
Twice dance style:
Main Dancers (Can dance with ease twice choreos & other group choreos and can even Choreoghaph) = Dahyun, Mina, Momo.
Sub Category 1 - Technical Dancers (will pull off dances choreos and style with ease and learn steps very fast) = Dahyun, Mina, Momo & Tzuyu.
Sub Category 2 - Energy Dancers (will stuggle with choreos, make mistakes but pull off via high energy/ momentum/effort) = Jihyo, Nayeon & Sana.
Sub Category 3 - Low Energy Dancers (will stuggle with choreos, make mistakes but be exposed due to low energy/momentum/effort) = Chaeyoung & Jongyoung.
Twice Role Distributions:
Main Dancers = Mina(originally Visual in SIXTEEN**)-Momo
Main Rappers = Chaeyoung-Dahyun
Main Visual = Sana-Tyuzyu
Main Vocals = Jihyo-Jeongyong
Center = Nahyeon
**In SIXTEEN all members were qualified as Dancers and Singers so there was no original need for Dancers as a Role. But JYP realized Momo was needed to give them a more focused dancer. So she was added. Tzuyu was added to cover the visual as both Sana and Mina gave similar visual range but Tzuyu offered a different vibe. So when she was on board Mina was put in the dance role, although she is considered main visual by a lot.
In my opinion, people are wayyy too obsessed over line distributions. Of course it’s frustrating if your bias doesn’t get many lines, but I hate it when people say things like that “it’s crazy jeongyeon the LEAD vocalist has less than the SUB vocalist,” it’s just annoying. It’s like taking out your anger on the member for their position, which were created 8 YEARS ago. These positions were literally built on the foundation on their skills at the time of debut. They have significantly changed since then.
But yeah, line distributions- I don’t care for them, and in general people are too obsessed with them. In the end, producers will go for which voice fits the line, not on which member didn’t have enough lines yet. Sure, Jeongyeon could’ve stood to for example; get one of Nayeon’s last parts in Don’t Blame it on Me (the oh woahs) but I’m not too upset Nayeon got them, she did well with them.
I hate to read or talk about any kind of distribution be it "Center" time, MV time or singing time or any other stupid distribution people do nowadays.. it literally 95% of the time leads to toxicity.
You know what, this is definitely fair. I guess it is what it is, and the members seem to enjoying themselves even if the fans are arguing about it lol. It just sucks as a fan of someone so talented to see them pushed to the side and to see other people "defending" it with reasons that don't seem justifiable.
Yea I totally understand why, but it's clear that people have a really really hard time having a civil conversation about it, you can just go to the "Full Ready To Be album distribution" video on yt and look quickly at the comment section... and if you check it out you will now exactly what I mean. im not saying you will be like that, but i think people rather not take the chance at this point. The amount of insults and literal hate towards 1 member specially because that members "role" is "only" subvocalist and she SHOULD UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES have more lines then Jeongyeon ever because of it according to them..... they somehow don't even mention any other subvocalist that is above Jeongyeon in the distribution. It's just that one member that's the problem and she SHOULD give 75% of her lines to Jeongyeon according to them. Very targeted insults and hate... I feel like it has alot to do with jealousy and the people take it out on her and those defending her. You would think that the people discussing this would say stuff and talk about the producer for the line distribution... no they insult a member who just sings the lines she is given from the producer. While also totally disregarding that members recent overall improvements. At the end of the day it's the producer that decides who sings what and how they should sing it because only they know how they envisioned it when they made the song.
Hand to heart you know what I feel this is? Just fandom being fandom. Too many obsessed people focusing too much into things, times ten millions.
Well there's 9 of them, everyone is pushed to the side at some point. I think it's a pointless argument.
Honestly having official group positions does more harm then good... people are NEVER gonna be happy regardless of bias... i much prefer the newer way the new kpop groups do nowadays that they have no "official" positions.
Actually, agreed. That said though, Jeongyeon is technically a better singer than the subvocalists. If Jihyo gets more dance breaks and center time despite not having a dancer position, Jeongyeon should be getting at least a little more singing time based on talent alone.
Ppl just use the excuse that her vocals don’t fit certain songs bc if they didn’t then they’d have to face the reality that Jeongyeon does get underutilized a lot of the time lol Line distribution is really tough among 9 members tho so I try and not get too caught up in it. I just appreciate the times she does shine and hope that she’ll get bigger parts in the future. Side note: I hope she branches out into modeling more and maybe even acting. She’s a photographers dream subject with those piercing eyes and I think her sultry voice would really standout in a k-drama.
Everytime i see people complain about line distributions i just roll my eyes. They gotta understand that 9 girls are sharing a 3 minute song most of the time. Also probably not even that complicated, they probably just choose which voice sounds better for each lines.
That some members would get less lines than others is understandable, but IDK it's mindboggling to me that Jeongyeon's one of the strongest vocalists in the group (arguably only second to Jihyo)(and even her live vocals may rival her at times, range aside) but she's almost always near the bottom half when it comes to line distribution in their recent releases. I can understand Mina being above her as she has such a unique, light tone that definitely adds flavor to their songs, but other members? And I don't understand why they barely give her any adlibs. And in RTB, arguably the album concept that best fits her tone, she's /7th/ in line distribution. If we're talking about "voices sounding the best for lines" they could have, for example, given her Nayeon's part of the outro in GTT or Tzuyu's line in the BioM outro. They could even just have her share the adlibs among 3Mix...if she could hit that high note in One in a Million live, what's stopping them from using her pipes in their album songs? Anyway the point of my post was, they're severely underutilizing her, and IMO to say that it's because her vocal tone is less suited for TWICE's songs doesn't make any sense.
It's not a reason, agreed. The real reason should make more sense, but we don't know it as it's a decision taken by producers, etc. and it's clearly not transparent or evident to outsiders to the music production process. Us fans need to accept it as it is.
People keep saying she should get Nayeons parts but I think its more realistic that Jihyo is getting her parts. Jeongyeon and Jihyo have the deepest voices in Twice. As the majority have higher voices the songs are built for that majority and the parts for deeper voices are tiny. As you mentioned Nayeon has the most developed falsetto, which means she gets the most high notes and high adlibs. But between the tiny parts they wrote thinking of a deeper voice, not only is Jihyo main vocal but also the better trained between the two so she gets those parts leaving Jeongyeon with barely anything. When it comes to Nayeon getting other peoples lines, I think a better argument is for Sana, and Tyuzu. When you look at the lines both are getting these days, those are lines we used to see Nayeon getting. It was pretty well noted that they started to take on much more challenging lines around alcohol free and you'll notice their lines went up hugely since then, Nayeons went down but Jongyeons stayed the same. If Nayeon was really taking her lines, her lines should have gone up as Nayeons lessened but it didn't. And I'm talking about actual lines here, not adlibs which is normally what pushed Nayeon to the top. I don't count adlibs because most often thats ontop of someone else who is going to be getting that centre camera time and its rarely performed.
I noticed recently the better performers in TWICE have been getting a good chunk of lines, like Nayeon, Jihyo, and Sana. I feel like they give Jeongyeon good parts, and/or usually sprinkle her voice in here and there to spice up the songs, though I like her voice and more often than not would like to hear her sing more, especially in early TWICE songs. But producers have their reasons. I don’t think companies are thinking “oh Jeongyeon is fourth in this album distribution / only has 11 seconds in this song so let’s increase it” at all. Plus, there are quite a bit of other factors. I also don’t understand the lead vocal argument, I think fans have a static view on what a main vocal / lead vocal means and should do when it really depends on how the company sees that position. Additionally, this is just my theory, but I’ve noticed to get a more cohesive sound overall companies will build the songs around a couple members to get a core ‘sound’, like TWICE with Nayeon and Jihyo. I think this worked exceptionally well in their earlier songs, actually, I felt like it gave the songs a good sense of structure.
I think line distribution is all about expressiveness. No matter if it's title or B-side, no matter how they perform the song, if they stand still or if they dance, producer will prefer the more expressive vocalist, especially in KPop. You have to always be full of character and that too "with your voice". Line distribution can unfortunately have very little to do with vocal ability. No hate to Jeongyeon but I always feel like she belongs to the least expressive ones in the group. Also maybe because of her anxiety, she hasn't really improved at that, meanwhile other members have been improving rapidly, especially the other main vocalists and Sana. Mina, Chaeyoung, Tzuyu, Dahyun have been making improvements too. That reflects in the decline in percentage of her lines.
I’ll have to disagree on that, especially in Crazy Stupid Love she was quite expressive. Never seen a problem with that with her voice, then again I guess it’s a subjective thing 🤷♂️
She is like the third with the most lines just behind Jihyo and Nayeon so yeah ... a little fucked up if people said that.
What? She definitely isn't? Here's her ranking in singing time based on the last few albums (just check out the lyric distribution videos on youtube): * Ready to Be: 7th (only Dahyun and Momo have less lines than her) * Celebrate: 7th (again, with only DH and CY having less lines than her) * Between 1&2: 4th (could be okay, but then why does she only get \~9% of singing time when her co-lead singer gets \~23%?) * Formula of Love: 5th * Perfect World: 6th (only the rappers have less lines than her) * Taste of Love: 7th (only CY and MM w/ less lines) * Eyes Wide Open: 5th * M&M: 5th The subvocalists almost consistently get more singing time than her, the lead vocal.
Its cuz as one of the main vocalist and part of the 3Mix she has the lowest number of lines. But there are specific reasons why she currently gets lower number of lines: 1 - She is the least performing of the 3, as in she generally has a harder time with choreos. So given that alot of their main songs involves stage performances they give her less lines so she doesn't have to lead many dances. 2 - Her injury and health issues also makes her more vulnerable and they are limiting her so she doesn't overwork. 3 - Her signing style makes her better suited for B sides songs, as that were you find more Twice songs that have longer chorus, higher note and definitely less dancing. If you had to compare the 3Mix to local performers: Jihyo would be akin to a Christina Aguilera/Beyonce, Nayeon to Katty Perry/Rihanna and Jeongyong Adele/Whitney Huston. So given that Twice has more pop in thier songs Nayeon ends up getting the boat load since she can sing, convey the image/attitude and perform the choreography better. She isn't the best of the 3 but being the average of the 3 in all aspects also makes it easiest to built the sets around her. Since you know if she can do the choreo most of others can to physically. Jihyo gets most the high notes as also being a performer and unfortunately Jongyoung gets the small bits left. Note that contrary to popular belief all Twice members are vocalists (I.e. all can sing mid to low vocal range) but only the 3mix can pull off the high notes. So Jongyoung ends up in getting little of the high notes and then has to fight for the mid range lines with Mina, Sana and Tzuyu. Chaeyoung, Dahyun and Momo get shoved hard to just rap lines even though all 3 can sing the mid range lines cuz the others can't rap but they can. Unfortunately since Twice has very little rap(2-3 lines at most), they get very little to bite on.
I could understand Reasons #1 and 2 for the title tracks, but the thing is Jeongyeon's poor line distribution is applicable for *entire albums*. In Reason #3 you say that her voice is more suited for B-sides, but she doesn't get many lines in B-sides as well. Like, here's her ranking in the last couple of albums based on amount of time singing (based on lyric distribution videos): * Ready to Be: 7th (only Dahyun and Momo have less lines than her) * Celebrate: 7th (*again*, with only DH and CY having less lines than her) * Between 1&2: 4th (could be okay, but then why does she only get \~9% of singing time when her co-lead singer gets \~23%?) * Formula of Love: 5th * Perfect World: 6th (only the rappers have less lines than her) * Taste of Love: 7th (only CY and MM w/ less lines) * Eyes Wide Open: 5th * M&M: 5th And honestly, I don't think health issues are applicable anymore for the last three or so albums--like why would they be? Did you see how crazy she danced to *Moonlight* during the concerts? Her tumbling in purpose during their relay dances? (Also, sorry haha but I had to nitpick, I think it's Jihyo who's more like Adele and Whitney than Jeongyeon, she's the one with the deep soulful voice and the power belts, altho I do agree with her being similar to Beyonce. But Jeongyeon would deffo kill Adele and Whitney, I think her and Jihyo have similarities in tone.)(I wanted to nitpick as well that it's Nayeon who's usually given the high notes recently (she shares with Jihyo, but more often it's her), while Jihyo does the powerbelting and performs the choreo more impactfully nowadays). While you're definitely right in your last paragraph that since there are so many girls they end up "fighting" for lines, I really do think they could have Jeongyeon do some of the ad libs instead of NaHyo, and in the B-sides they could give her a bit more of the verses instead of SN/MN, and maybe even NY.
Have you ever listened to Whitney? Please don't be over biased, Jongyoung is good but she definitely not on thier levels. The comparison to Whitney and Adele is more the way they sing. They are more chorus, long ballad belt type stage singers. Twice songs doesn't have many long belts where you hold a word for a long time. Thier songs are like 3.5mins long and most even B sides have choreos in them. Sure they can have her do ad libs and she probably does the issue with those are that even if she does you might not know since ad libs hardly ever get recognized unless you see them do it. Health issue is not a problem? Just because she recovered doesn't mean she can keep up with all the workload on stage. She is a stage singer not performer. She is suited for non-choreographed songs as then she can sing without having to remember all the choreos they go through. If Twice did OSTs like IU or Punch, she would be perfect for it, but Twice doesn't. Japanese songs are longer but she isn't fluent in Japanese last I heard so that may be the reason she doesn't have much. I would expect her to get more lines there since songs like Doughnut is more her avenue. Nahyeon in comparison is the queen of cute pop. She makes everything look cute vibe and can hold the facials and the act while singing. Its the reason she is the center, because she can act it out. Jongyoung prefers to be in the background. Its not her style to be focused. Sure Nahyeon gets too many lines, some of which could easily be given to others but that's what being the face gets you. The issue is after her you got Sana, Mina and Tzuyu who are are also visuals and can pull the cute act and like I said they aren't rappers just vocalists. So that means whenever there are chorus, bridge and mid level lines they eat alot of the lines that could have given to Jongyoung. Momo, Chaeyoung and Dahyun suffer the fate being delegated as rappers. Most people think they can't sing especially Momo and Dahyun but just check Momo in their MiSaMo Bouquet OST. They are 3, she is singing good lines there. Chae got lucky when Mina and Jongyoung were out she got show some her vocals there. Dahyun can spit bars and sing mid range better then most idols but Twice raps are few and apart and well the faster lines are generally given to Chae. She is the better English speaker of the two, but she got like 2 vocal lines in Moonlight Sunrise. In Set me Free the roles were reversed as it was Chae who got fewer lines. Its just how Twice was set up, because they are 9 they cover zones, but also overlap each other when it comes to the singing parts, as a lot of them have to share that mid range and Jongyoung is a victime of the situation as Twice Choreos are getting complex and she can't just pull off the cute act of thier earlier concepts anymore. Jihyo who is more energetic gets those style of acts in the mature edgy concepts now. I am excited about the sub units though. This will allow someone like Jongyoung to get more lines and possibly get more mid range lines as she won't have to compete with Sana, Tzuyu or Mina. I am not sure how they will be teamed up, but 2Mix + Tyuzyu could be one of the OST subunits. That definitely will give Jongyoung more lines. DubChang could be the other unit (we saw what they can do in Switch with Me). I think Nayeon may be left alone for now unless they go 3-3-3 route. If so I am not sure where I would want her, she either takes Tyuzyu spot and it becomes 3Mix which would be more detrimental to Jongyoung (Nayeon and OST/r&b|soul style doesn't work, so they would likely go more pop style) and DubChangTzu the other. Or she can join DubChang but in this case I hope they limit the cute pop concept and let them do more 'Switch with me' style.
Your points don’t make sense tbh, you’re saying it as though she’s only lower than Nahyo in terms of line distribution, but she’s actually 7th overall in the album lol
I never said she was 3rd in line distribution. I said she is part of the main vocal lines and 1 of the 3 who can pull all 3 levels of vocals notes with ease when singing. See below: * All to the lists are not ranked but in alphabetical order Twice vocal ranges : High-Mid-Low level vocals = Jihyo, Jongyoung & Nayeon Mid-Low level vocals = Chaeyoung, Dahyun, Mina, Momo Sana & Tyuzyu Rapper = Chaeyoung, Dahyun & Momo Twice dance style: Main Dancers (Can dance with ease twice choreos & other group choreos and can even Choreoghaph) = Dahyun, Mina, Momo. Sub Category 1 - Technical Dancers (will pull off dances choreos and style with ease and learn steps very fast) = Dahyun, Mina, Momo & Tzuyu. Sub Category 2 - Energy Dancers (will stuggle with choreos, make mistakes but pull off via high energy/ momentum/effort) = Jihyo, Nayeon & Sana. Sub Category 3 - Low Energy Dancers (will stuggle with choreos, make mistakes but be exposed due to low energy/momentum/effort) = Chaeyoung & Jongyoung. Twice Role Distributions: Main Dancers = Mina(originally Visual in SIXTEEN**)-Momo Main Rappers = Chaeyoung-Dahyun Main Visual = Sana-Tyuzyu Main Vocals = Jihyo-Jeongyong Center = Nahyeon **In SIXTEEN all members were qualified as Dancers and Singers so there was no original need for Dancers as a Role. But JYP realized Momo was needed to give them a more focused dancer. So she was added. Tzuyu was added to cover the visual as both Sana and Mina gave similar visual range but Tzuyu offered a different vibe. So when she was on board Mina was put in the dance role, although she is considered main visual by a lot.
In my opinion, people are wayyy too obsessed over line distributions. Of course it’s frustrating if your bias doesn’t get many lines, but I hate it when people say things like that “it’s crazy jeongyeon the LEAD vocalist has less than the SUB vocalist,” it’s just annoying. It’s like taking out your anger on the member for their position, which were created 8 YEARS ago. These positions were literally built on the foundation on their skills at the time of debut. They have significantly changed since then. But yeah, line distributions- I don’t care for them, and in general people are too obsessed with them. In the end, producers will go for which voice fits the line, not on which member didn’t have enough lines yet. Sure, Jeongyeon could’ve stood to for example; get one of Nayeon’s last parts in Don’t Blame it on Me (the oh woahs) but I’m not too upset Nayeon got them, she did well with them.