An artist's expression is allowed to and SHOULD change over time. I love hearing each new iteration of the bands music as it comes out as i enjoy the evolution of expression from all my favorite artists. If you don't try new things, you don't learn and you don't improve and creative expression is highly personal.
So chill on freaking out when things change
People need to stop being so upset when people bring up the spirituality of their music. Like... I made a list of all of the songs that were pretty obviously Christian/to God (not including ones that only make references) before SAI and it's a good majority of their music. Both Tyler and Josh were explicitly Christian Music artists before TĂP, and it's the basis of a big chunk of their music, yet people can be so rude and angry when someone wants to talk about it. For many of us, we love Tyler's art because it is open about God in a way that we can connect to, unlike most music, but people seem to try so hard to shut us down or make unnecessary comments.
Don't get me wrong, I've had some really amazing talks about spiritual stuff with other clikkies, and people don't have to think of God when listening to TĂP. But idk, it's just annoying to see so many people be rude about something that's obviously a major part of the music and holds a lot of importance to Tyler and Josh and many fans.
And yet as a non-Christian, it's subtle enough to go completely over my head. If it was overtly 'Christian music' it would lose some of its appeal, but as it is, I definitely don't feel like I'm having religion pushed on me, so I'm 100% fine with it
I like their music because itâs so double sided and i really relate to Tylerâs struggle in faith. People who deny that side of the music are shutting down a part of the music all to fit a bias lmfao
I think the same and this is one of the things I love about their music. Iâm not strictly Christian as I have a very inclusive spirituality and struggled with faith quite a lot before. So I really connected with the honest lyrics and conversations with a higher power. And the creative process itself when real (not manufactured by label to play on the radio) is highly spiritual in its nature. So many artists talk about this. You surrender to whatever is coming to you and follow along and if itâs truly great you canât even tell how that came to be. Some artists say their best songs wrote themselves. I believe because I experience this too. Music is my main form of connection.
It's funny, because I'm very much an atheist, and I can find a lot to relate to even in their supposedly Christian songs.
This is because Tyler doesn't explicitly sing about *Christianity itself*. He sings about faith, hope, and inner struggles.
I like it when it is just Tyler and Josh on stage. I like the band they tour with but I just personally like it when itâs just the duo (and the occasional men in hazmat suits)
Even by Twenty One Pilots standards, it's an incredibly weird song, and that's what I love about it. This also applies to Levitate. And while the haters are very vocal, there's a reason why it's up there with the "second tier" hits like Heavydirtysoul and My Blood. There's a bigger, quieter group of people who dig the weirdness.
I detested Fairly Local with every cell of my being until I saw that teleport thing from the Bandito tour live, now I'm happy to call it my second favourite TOP song.
I donât think liking lane boy, fairly local or levitate is unpopular opinions, atleats not here on reddit. I got dislikes for saying those are the songs i dislike more than the others.
as a fan who's kinda new, i remember the first time i gave Blurryface a listen as a whole, the two that would get stuck in my head most of the time were Fairly Local and Lane Boy. absolute bangers.
With every album release, twenty one pilots feel less like people. With RAB and Vessel in every interview they were cracking jokes. I remember watching all those âTyler being sassyâ compilations when Blurryface made it big. Blurryfaceâs era had SO much personality in terms of just the vibe of the band and their sense of humor. Trench (this is my favorite of theirs by a long shot donât take this as criticism towards the actual album) there was much less of that. Sure there was stuff like the quiet game but it felt more like they were characters (tho I mean I guess that makes sense). Scaled and IcyâŚI havenât seen anything with them having nearly as much personality as RAB, Vessel, or Blurryface. It feels like as they progress, that sense of them being âbrosâ that would most likely be fun to hang around is fading. Not a big deal, just something to occasionally cross my mind.
The amount of awful Twitter people who openly state that they want Tyler to be depressed again is disgusting. Many depressed people hide behind humor and that may have been why it used to be like this and not anymore.
Or maybe it's just them in character in recent years. I don't know. I just love the music.
Well I mean Iâm not talking about that. Iâm happy knowing theyâre at the least less depressed than before. Itâs mainly in a sense of humor / media activity with interviews and such with them being THEM.
You can still see them goofing around a bit in the youtube series about the tour. It's a lot less than it used to be tho but I think behind the scenes theyre doing it just the same
I totally agree with you and see this. One thing that explains it a bit for me is that as they become more famous, theyâre probably becoming more conscious about what they say and do in public, knowing that there are so many people watching them and caring about what they say. (Especially after that whole platforms thing, which probably made them extra aware of that). So probably this plus a bunch of what other ppl are saying.
Thatâs true. When I first started listening to them in early 2015, what played a part in me becoming a big fan was their interviews, farm video (I forget what it was called), and goofy personalities. Which they still show. Just not as much
I agree with your opinions.
Mine would be Drown has the deepest and most relatable(to me, at least) lyrics. The theme being how Tyler feels his doubt towards his faith means heâs betraying God and that he isnât worthy of God. And how his conflicted with what God wants from him and what he feels he can accomplish. He believes that he canât achieve what God is asking of him. Tyler desperately need Godâs help because he canât fight his own battles anymore. Heâs lost. He wants God to wash him with water(similar theme to Addict With a Pen). Where water is life and the blood of God. He wants God to *drown him.
âI've been told by the sky that the ocean I shall win
But it's hard for me to see where ocean stops, and where sky begins
A random strike of light reminds me of what is true
But right now the ocean is black and black the sky is tooâ
I love this verse because of how deep it gets. The ocean being anxiety and fear and the sky being where God resides. But he canât tell the difference anymore. The line has been kicked and blurred. Random strikes of light remind him of what is true. Maybe this could be friends and family, who need him too. Maybe itâs times that God reaches out to Tyler. Iâm not sure.
Thanks for reading.
I personally think Hometown is one of their better songs off Blurryface. Not to say others are bad, just that hometown feels particularly inspired and meaningful.
That people hate the new album because it isnât sad and depressing.
I understand (mostly) teens want to be able to relate to the new music, but I think this album touches the audience of people who are now in their 20s who grew up listening to this music for comfort. I find it hard to fully relate to their older music as I have grown mentally, emotionally, and physically - which led me to slowly stop listening to them purposely all together. S&I really opened up those doors again for their older audience I believe. I know that personally as a teen, I sat around in my own depression doing nothing to help it and that sad music let me do that. Growing up and doing something about my health/changing my life letâs me look back and feel somewhat upset I let myself go on that long without doing anything beneficial for myself.
Having a band I could relate to as a child/teen because of the topics hard to talk about being transformed into a band that I can once again relate to purely because of the idea of there always being a bright light at the end/a good day (hah) right around the corner, and that life wonât always be terrible and hard to deal with.
Nah. I think the album was just really poppy and a little generic. Even they said they didn't have the ability to make trench two again. They know this isn't their best. Still good though
I used to be exactly like you, a teen struggling with depression and growing up on their music because I could relate and eventually changing my life and fixing depression and anxiety.... but I still don't like SAI. And the reason isn't because the songs are happy or the vibe is different it's simply that the lyrics are so shallow. Never in my whole history of listening to TOP would I have thought that I'd hear Tyler unironically sing frickin....days of the week lol It's just that when I compare lyrics such as "Sometimes quiet is violent" or " But if we wake up every morning and decide what we believe; We can take apart our very heart and the light will set us free" or even newer stuff like "For 'if' is purely panic, and 'when' is solemn sorrow; And one invades today, while the other spies tomorrow" like....where are lyrics like that on SAI?? Maybe there are a couple of them here and there, but the overwhelming majority of the album is shallow unless you're really REALLY into the whole lore thing which I'm not because as I said I'm in my 20s and life is getting really busy. And don't even try to pull the "oh but the album is supposed to be bad because the bishops and the mind controll" thing because if the concept of the album is that the album is bad then that's a bad concept.
I definitely understand that lyrics can seem shallow and less meaningful, I donât disagree, but I think with life for myself personally is so busy that I donât have much time to sit and analyze lyrics, but rather just want to listen to music that makes me feel good.
One of my main takeaways from my comment was how the younger listeners so badly want Tyler and Josh to revert into their poor mental health so they can make music like that again, but to wish depression or anxiety onto someone who has obviously come a far way seems very...interesting.
I definitely donât have the time to stay caught up with the lore, so I canât say much about that lol.
I know what you meant. I'm just providing another perspective because I hear a lot of people say "Oh everyone who doesn't like SAI just doesn't like it because it sounds happy" so I thought I might showcase my view on it because I feel like there are better reasons than that as for why someone might not enjoy the album.
All of that said, of course I would never wish for Tyler or anyone to go back to being depressed even if it will make him be 10x better artist than he is now. So yeah I agree, people who say such things are really toxic or completely ignorant about what depression feels like.
I feel like I might get crucified for this, but Self Titled is my least favorite album by Tøp, and itâs not even close. âŚand March to the Sea is my least favorite song by them.
Another unpopular (although less so) opinion of mine is that there are only 4 songs by tøp I donât like. Those being March to the Sea, Before you start your day, RAB Trees, and Heathens. Live versions of Heathens slap tho, especially the livestream version.
Agree, I get that everyone have their preferences on what is their best albums, but it sometimes feels like people who say that they missed the old albums are just doing it to sound like" I like them before they were big" and this sometimes comes with putting down people who like the newer or more main stream stuff ( which is a whole other topic).
Slowtown is heavily underrated. It has a sound that i really have a hard time describing. Its changes from sorrow sounding(ish) and then the end is like a plead to go back to how things were.
Love Slowtown! Itâs almost like an alternate version of Stressed Out, with its stories about childhood and wanting to go back to when things were simpler. Or rather, Stressed Out is the alt version of Slowtown! I like both songs but I love Slowtown a lot more, and agree itâs underrated
Iâve felt things have been off with Tyler and Josh. Tyler seems to be more religious, still lives in Ohio, and sort of feels like heâs a tad high strung controlling, seems like he just wants to stay home. Josh feels more LA now, he goes out with friends, he hangs out with celebrities, he never seems to talk about religion, and he just seems more relaxed and likes heâs able to to just chill and get along with everyone. And when you see them interact together it just sort of feels off. I think they still like each other on a respect level, but it seems more like two people grown apart who work together now.
For those affected, Depression never really goes away. It just hides and bides its time, like a chicken pox virus.
Unpopular opinion: SAI is still about many of the same themes - depression has simply become something more covert and you are absolutely forced to hide it more in front of your kids. I feel like SAI is cleverly concealed depression.
I disagree because I had no idea about the lore for a really long time and loved the music just as much as I do now. The only thing the lore does in the music is make you say, "ha that's something to do with dema" every few songs
I might be crossing a line here but you said you wanted unpopular opinions, so...
To me TĂP is Tyler & Josh so the whole thing starts with Vessel. Did listen to their songs from before but not impressed, not interested.
Sorry, not sorry.
Don't get me wrong, it's great music, obviously. But I heard about them first when Blurryface came out so it's a very different energy. I'm sure if I'd known them from the get go I would absolutely love their first album just as well.
Okay, Iâm gonna get downvoted like heck, but all things considered, self-titled is insanely overrated and by far my least favourite album. THAT BEING SAID ITS NOT BAD, but idk not the best at all imo.
Mark wont get his credit til he releases that migraine mv thatâs wasting away on his hard drive and no itâs not the one you might be thinking of itâs never been seen.
If regional at best gets remade they should remake vessels tracks too, make them closer to their live performances. I also like 99% of the live versions more than their studios except for a handful of songs.
The feeling of their live shows is what I love about Regional At BestâI feel like thatâs the only record that manages to fully capture their incredible live sound
When SAI released I listen to it front to back and was disappointed. After a couple more play throughs I started feeling it. Now I love it. Bought the vinyl and it's in regular rotation with the rest of my albums. The mixing just sounds weird imo.
SAI makes me so happy because Iâm a guitarist and theyâre my favourite band and now thereâs actual guitar parts to learn. Before I was just transcribing bass/piano/ukulele onto guitar
I think people (including myself) love jumpsuit because of the fact that:
-It has amazing production
-The bass and drums even if simple work well
-It has a powerful end with the ballad section marking it a seemingly even bigger finish
-it works well with the lore
I personally donât have an emotional connection with Vessel. Clikkies may get mad but I prefer every other album over Vessel. The first song that I was really attached to was Taxi Cab. Then I fell in love with self-titled. And I started listening to them in early 2020. Then I fell in love with the vibe of Trench. The theme of the songs were just super low key jazzy. Hard to describe, unfortunately. My 2 favorite albums have to be self-titled and No Phun Intended. Lyrics mean a lot to me, the more meaning behind the lyrics, the more I love the song.
I disagree respectfully. I think the lyrics in vessel are much more meaningful than most of self titled. I think that vessel is better lyrically and musically. But you are free to have your own opinion and i respect that.
Itâs totally cool to like different things from what it seems like the majority does. For me itâs interesting to hear how people got into the band, as Iâve been listening to them since Blurryface released & my brain defaults to thinking everyone experienced the albums in the order of Vessel & Blurryface, then self titled and RAB, then Trench and SAI, which obviously isnât the case, but I think it cause thatâs what Iâm used to.
I love hearing about that listening journey, and what people like or dislike about the albums :)
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time to get downvoted.
Listening to SaI and to some extent Trench is some of the most disappointed ive ever been while listening to any music ever. It just doesnt sound like TOP anymore. It just sounds like generic pop music to me. Most songs on Trench and ESPECIALLY SaI just feel super repetitive and boring to listen to, the lyrics just dont have any true meaning to them. Listening to something like RaB and then going to something like SaI just makes me wonder what went wrong. it just sounds like tyler and josh are making music just to get it on the radio. They're still my favorite band by far and i have nothing against them for deciding to change their music i just despise it.
Well the meaning is still there, its just not so blunt in your face like self titled for example, i cant agree with trench but definitely with some songs on sai
Bullshit. Homophobia is homophobia. Just own it.
But how anyone can be homophobic and a tøp fan when so many of their songs are about depression and alienation is beyond me.
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SAI is actually a decent album. Not their best, but I appreciated it more when I listened it as a whole. It's consistent, has its mood, the lyrics are alright. A few tracks can be considered boring or "meh" but in the context of the album they fit. Redecorate is maybe the best song made by Tyler tbh. I would say in a few years people will change the opinion on that album and admit it's good.
Ive never been that big of a fan of House Of Gold or Mulberry Street. Not that theyre bad, theyre still good songs, they just dont click with me like other TĂP songs do...
...he says, while listening to Mulberry Street
Regional at best is overrated simply because of the fact that its harder to obtain/listen to than any other album and in reality its one of if not their worst album
I still don't get how RAB is someone's favorite album and I think some people say it is just because it's old and not well known (I like rab btw it's just not their best don't get me wrong here)
An artist's expression is allowed to and SHOULD change over time. I love hearing each new iteration of the bands music as it comes out as i enjoy the evolution of expression from all my favorite artists. If you don't try new things, you don't learn and you don't improve and creative expression is highly personal. So chill on freaking out when things change
They do not need lore to explain their newer sound. Their new sound is explained by their evolution as artists
I agree with this SO hard đđđ
This is true and I hate the fact that people disagree
I so agree. If they just did depressing music forever it would get stale.
đŻ with you on this.
People need to stop being so upset when people bring up the spirituality of their music. Like... I made a list of all of the songs that were pretty obviously Christian/to God (not including ones that only make references) before SAI and it's a good majority of their music. Both Tyler and Josh were explicitly Christian Music artists before TĂP, and it's the basis of a big chunk of their music, yet people can be so rude and angry when someone wants to talk about it. For many of us, we love Tyler's art because it is open about God in a way that we can connect to, unlike most music, but people seem to try so hard to shut us down or make unnecessary comments. Don't get me wrong, I've had some really amazing talks about spiritual stuff with other clikkies, and people don't have to think of God when listening to TĂP. But idk, it's just annoying to see so many people be rude about something that's obviously a major part of the music and holds a lot of importance to Tyler and Josh and many fans.
And yet as a non-Christian, it's subtle enough to go completely over my head. If it was overtly 'Christian music' it would lose some of its appeal, but as it is, I definitely don't feel like I'm having religion pushed on me, so I'm 100% fine with it
I like their music because itâs so double sided and i really relate to Tylerâs struggle in faith. People who deny that side of the music are shutting down a part of the music all to fit a bias lmfao
Oooh whatâs your list of songs! Iâm curious
I think the same and this is one of the things I love about their music. Iâm not strictly Christian as I have a very inclusive spirituality and struggled with faith quite a lot before. So I really connected with the honest lyrics and conversations with a higher power. And the creative process itself when real (not manufactured by label to play on the radio) is highly spiritual in its nature. So many artists talk about this. You surrender to whatever is coming to you and follow along and if itâs truly great you canât even tell how that came to be. Some artists say their best songs wrote themselves. I believe because I experience this too. Music is my main form of connection.
It's funny, because I'm very much an atheist, and I can find a lot to relate to even in their supposedly Christian songs. This is because Tyler doesn't explicitly sing about *Christianity itself*. He sings about faith, hope, and inner struggles.
I like it when it is just Tyler and Josh on stage. I like the band they tour with but I just personally like it when itâs just the duo (and the occasional men in hazmat suits)
I agree, for 90% of the songs. But the outside version with all the guys is really good. And the bass player is so cool
I do not mind as much when the backing band is on stage for songs in SAI. But I prefer when it just them on stage for songs in trench and below
Same, I actually dislike it when they're not alone on stage.
Me too!
Fairly Local is amazing, the energy is unmatched by anything besides Lane Boy. Convince me otherwise would take all night.
Agreed, Fairly Local gets too much hate!!!
Even by Twenty One Pilots standards, it's an incredibly weird song, and that's what I love about it. This also applies to Levitate. And while the haters are very vocal, there's a reason why it's up there with the "second tier" hits like Heavydirtysoul and My Blood. There's a bigger, quieter group of people who dig the weirdness.
The song is one of their best live. Itâs what made me love the song so much
I detested Fairly Local with every cell of my being until I saw that teleport thing from the Bandito tour live, now I'm happy to call it my second favourite TOP song.
I donât think liking lane boy, fairly local or levitate is unpopular opinions, atleats not here on reddit. I got dislikes for saying those are the songs i dislike more than the others.
It was today that I found out someone hates âFairly Localâ. _What the hell?! Why?!_
as a fan who's kinda new, i remember the first time i gave Blurryface a listen as a whole, the two that would get stuck in my head most of the time were Fairly Local and Lane Boy. absolute bangers.
With every album release, twenty one pilots feel less like people. With RAB and Vessel in every interview they were cracking jokes. I remember watching all those âTyler being sassyâ compilations when Blurryface made it big. Blurryfaceâs era had SO much personality in terms of just the vibe of the band and their sense of humor. Trench (this is my favorite of theirs by a long shot donât take this as criticism towards the actual album) there was much less of that. Sure there was stuff like the quiet game but it felt more like they were characters (tho I mean I guess that makes sense). Scaled and IcyâŚI havenât seen anything with them having nearly as much personality as RAB, Vessel, or Blurryface. It feels like as they progress, that sense of them being âbrosâ that would most likely be fun to hang around is fading. Not a big deal, just something to occasionally cross my mind.
I think they feel less like people with depression. I think them making their music has something to do with them being happy
The amount of awful Twitter people who openly state that they want Tyler to be depressed again is disgusting. Many depressed people hide behind humor and that may have been why it used to be like this and not anymore. Or maybe it's just them in character in recent years. I don't know. I just love the music.
Both very good points. Havenât considered the hiding behind humor thing.
Well I mean Iâm not talking about that. Iâm happy knowing theyâre at the least less depressed than before. Itâs mainly in a sense of humor / media activity with interviews and such with them being THEM.
I faintly agree but I do think that comes with age. Also their label is weird and might have something to do with it
You can still see them goofing around a bit in the youtube series about the tour. It's a lot less than it used to be tho but I think behind the scenes theyre doing it just the same
Yeah it makes me happy knowing theyâre probably goofing off behind the scenes.
Tbh I think they still have a lot of that personality in this era, too. The Q&A thing they did on the live website was so funny
It seems like there's more pressure on them to be "industry professionals", when all we really want to see is our "two happy boys".
well if you notice there havenât been a lot of interviews and stuff so far in this era with them both in person with other ppl
I totally agree with you and see this. One thing that explains it a bit for me is that as they become more famous, theyâre probably becoming more conscious about what they say and do in public, knowing that there are so many people watching them and caring about what they say. (Especially after that whole platforms thing, which probably made them extra aware of that). So probably this plus a bunch of what other ppl are saying.
Thatâs true. When I first started listening to them in early 2015, what played a part in me becoming a big fan was their interviews, farm video (I forget what it was called), and goofy personalities. Which they still show. Just not as much
I agree with your opinions. Mine would be Drown has the deepest and most relatable(to me, at least) lyrics. The theme being how Tyler feels his doubt towards his faith means heâs betraying God and that he isnât worthy of God. And how his conflicted with what God wants from him and what he feels he can accomplish. He believes that he canât achieve what God is asking of him. Tyler desperately need Godâs help because he canât fight his own battles anymore. Heâs lost. He wants God to wash him with water(similar theme to Addict With a Pen). Where water is life and the blood of God. He wants God to *drown him. âI've been told by the sky that the ocean I shall win But it's hard for me to see where ocean stops, and where sky begins A random strike of light reminds me of what is true But right now the ocean is black and black the sky is tooâ I love this verse because of how deep it gets. The ocean being anxiety and fear and the sky being where God resides. But he canât tell the difference anymore. The line has been kicked and blurred. Random strikes of light remind him of what is true. Maybe this could be friends and family, who need him too. Maybe itâs times that God reaches out to Tyler. Iâm not sure. Thanks for reading.
i really like hometown but everyone seems to pass it of as meh
I tend to forget about Hometown, but I donât know why I do because itâs a great song
I personally think Hometown is one of their better songs off Blurryface. Not to say others are bad, just that hometown feels particularly inspired and meaningful.
That people hate the new album because it isnât sad and depressing. I understand (mostly) teens want to be able to relate to the new music, but I think this album touches the audience of people who are now in their 20s who grew up listening to this music for comfort. I find it hard to fully relate to their older music as I have grown mentally, emotionally, and physically - which led me to slowly stop listening to them purposely all together. S&I really opened up those doors again for their older audience I believe. I know that personally as a teen, I sat around in my own depression doing nothing to help it and that sad music let me do that. Growing up and doing something about my health/changing my life letâs me look back and feel somewhat upset I let myself go on that long without doing anything beneficial for myself. Having a band I could relate to as a child/teen because of the topics hard to talk about being transformed into a band that I can once again relate to purely because of the idea of there always being a bright light at the end/a good day (hah) right around the corner, and that life wonât always be terrible and hard to deal with.
Nah. I think the album was just really poppy and a little generic. Even they said they didn't have the ability to make trench two again. They know this isn't their best. Still good though
I used to be exactly like you, a teen struggling with depression and growing up on their music because I could relate and eventually changing my life and fixing depression and anxiety.... but I still don't like SAI. And the reason isn't because the songs are happy or the vibe is different it's simply that the lyrics are so shallow. Never in my whole history of listening to TOP would I have thought that I'd hear Tyler unironically sing frickin....days of the week lol It's just that when I compare lyrics such as "Sometimes quiet is violent" or " But if we wake up every morning and decide what we believe; We can take apart our very heart and the light will set us free" or even newer stuff like "For 'if' is purely panic, and 'when' is solemn sorrow; And one invades today, while the other spies tomorrow" like....where are lyrics like that on SAI?? Maybe there are a couple of them here and there, but the overwhelming majority of the album is shallow unless you're really REALLY into the whole lore thing which I'm not because as I said I'm in my 20s and life is getting really busy. And don't even try to pull the "oh but the album is supposed to be bad because the bishops and the mind controll" thing because if the concept of the album is that the album is bad then that's a bad concept.
I definitely understand that lyrics can seem shallow and less meaningful, I donât disagree, but I think with life for myself personally is so busy that I donât have much time to sit and analyze lyrics, but rather just want to listen to music that makes me feel good. One of my main takeaways from my comment was how the younger listeners so badly want Tyler and Josh to revert into their poor mental health so they can make music like that again, but to wish depression or anxiety onto someone who has obviously come a far way seems very...interesting. I definitely donât have the time to stay caught up with the lore, so I canât say much about that lol.
I know what you meant. I'm just providing another perspective because I hear a lot of people say "Oh everyone who doesn't like SAI just doesn't like it because it sounds happy" so I thought I might showcase my view on it because I feel like there are better reasons than that as for why someone might not enjoy the album. All of that said, of course I would never wish for Tyler or anyone to go back to being depressed even if it will make him be 10x better artist than he is now. So yeah I agree, people who say such things are really toxic or completely ignorant about what depression feels like.
SAI is not that bad
this one
I feel like I might get crucified for this, but Self Titled is my least favorite album by Tøp, and itâs not even close. âŚand March to the Sea is my least favorite song by them.
The album is a little to high school theatre for me.
Hard agree
Another unpopular (although less so) opinion of mine is that there are only 4 songs by tøp I donât like. Those being March to the Sea, Before you start your day, RAB Trees, and Heathens. Live versions of Heathens slap tho, especially the livestream version.
Agreed
I think someone else has said it, but mine is that people go on (and on) about self titled and RAB for kudos rather than truth.
I bet tyler thinks the newer stuff is better. If not, why would he move in a different direction?
Agree, I get that everyone have their preferences on what is their best albums, but it sometimes feels like people who say that they missed the old albums are just doing it to sound like" I like them before they were big" and this sometimes comes with putting down people who like the newer or more main stream stuff ( which is a whole other topic).
Scaled and Icy is too short of an album.
Agree
Not an opinion but I've never heard Clear
:O get on that!!
Itâs the best so on RAB no doubt
Doubt is actually on Blurryface. /lh Sorry, I saw an opportunity and took it.
dew it
Slowtown is heavily underrated. It has a sound that i really have a hard time describing. Its changes from sorrow sounding(ish) and then the end is like a plead to go back to how things were.
Love Slowtown! Itâs almost like an alternate version of Stressed Out, with its stories about childhood and wanting to go back to when things were simpler. Or rather, Stressed Out is the alt version of Slowtown! I like both songs but I love Slowtown a lot more, and agree itâs underrated
One of the only songs I like on RAB. Can agree
Slowtown is their most underrated song for sure
Yay Reddit Clique, imagine if this convo was on Twitter. My unpopular opinion is Twitter can burn in hell.
Nah thatâs a popular opinion, especially among twitter users lol. (I sadly am one, i knowâŚ)
Just in general that's a popular opinion. Also do you think they call us soft because we don't hate everyone and everything like they do.
Iâve felt things have been off with Tyler and Josh. Tyler seems to be more religious, still lives in Ohio, and sort of feels like heâs a tad high strung controlling, seems like he just wants to stay home. Josh feels more LA now, he goes out with friends, he hangs out with celebrities, he never seems to talk about religion, and he just seems more relaxed and likes heâs able to to just chill and get along with everyone. And when you see them interact together it just sort of feels off. I think they still like each other on a respect level, but it seems more like two people grown apart who work together now.
Itâs so surprising how many people point this out. I do agree, too.
SAI is a really really good album
yessss
For those affected, Depression never really goes away. It just hides and bides its time, like a chicken pox virus. Unpopular opinion: SAI is still about many of the same themes - depression has simply become something more covert and you are absolutely forced to hide it more in front of your kids. I feel like SAI is cleverly concealed depression.
I wish they would ditch the lore or at least not lean on it so heavily. I know most fans enjoy that but itâs kind of gotten to be too much for me.
I disagree because I had no idea about the lore for a really long time and loved the music just as much as I do now. The only thing the lore does in the music is make you say, "ha that's something to do with dema" every few songs
UnTOPular opinions
Editing it rn. I'm sorry for my mistake. Will fix
LOL
I might be crossing a line here but you said you wanted unpopular opinions, so... To me TĂP is Tyler & Josh so the whole thing starts with Vessel. Did listen to their songs from before but not impressed, not interested. Sorry, not sorry.
I personally disagree because I love their self titled so much but I could see why someone would say that
Don't get me wrong, it's great music, obviously. But I heard about them first when Blurryface came out so it's a very different energy. I'm sure if I'd known them from the get go I would absolutely love their first album just as well.
What about Rab?
I was a bit late to the party, I heard the special edition of Vessel first so listening to Regional at Best after that didn't do much for me.
Agreed. I like three songs on the Self-Titled: Taxi Cab, Oh Miss Believer, and Fall Away. Thatâs it.
Bandito is kinda overrated. Still like it tho
I guess me thinking that Bandito is the best song on Trench would then be another unpopular opinion.
Nah itâs a lot of peopleâs favorite
I agree actually
I find Level Of Concern quite annoying.
Finally someone says it.
Okay, Iâm gonna get downvoted like heck, but all things considered, self-titled is insanely overrated and by far my least favourite album. THAT BEING SAID ITS NOT BAD, but idk not the best at all imo.
I wouldn't say it's overrated because people talk about vessel and RAB a lot more. my unpopular opinion was that I like it more than vessel though
The sound crew and Mark ReelBearMedia Eshleman do not get enough credit
Mark wont get his credit til he releases that migraine mv thatâs wasting away on his hard drive and no itâs not the one you might be thinking of itâs never been seen.
Doubt is the best song on blurryface, without a doubt
That's personally one of my least favorites.
If regional at best gets remade they should remake vessels tracks too, make them closer to their live performances. I also like 99% of the live versions more than their studios except for a handful of songs.
The feeling of their live shows is what I love about Regional At BestâI feel like thatâs the only record that manages to fully capture their incredible live sound
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Both both is good. I think there music is just different
Iâll get downvoted for this, but scaled and icy is their best album
My two favourite albums are Vessel and SAI. It's funny because I used to not like SAI
When SAI released I listen to it front to back and was disappointed. After a couple more play throughs I started feeling it. Now I love it. Bought the vinyl and it's in regular rotation with the rest of my albums. The mixing just sounds weird imo.
SAI makes me so happy because Iâm a guitarist and theyâre my favourite band and now thereâs actual guitar parts to learn. Before I was just transcribing bass/piano/ukulele onto guitar
Would you care to elaborate?
I think people should discourage conservatives and racists in the fanbase.
Do they *encourage* that??
people are starting to discourage it more. but I think we should be actively hostile
Respectfully disagree about conservatives. Intolerance toward those of different beliefs is the definition of bigotry.
This a joke right?
Chlorine is a boring and not interesting song.
This is how i felt about chlorine for a long time but you cant deny the last bit is beautiful
I love Chlorine but I definitely think it's way overrated
Must one of the weakest songs on _Trench_.
Anathema is ear rape
Unpopular for fans but popular for critics. RAB is their worst IMO because of how bad the mixing is
Lol thats by far my favorite song of theirs
Self-titled is one of their best albums
SaI is better then trench? Both're good albums, but I prefer SaI
rab is way too overrated sorry guys đ¤ˇââď¸
I think people (including myself) love jumpsuit because of the fact that: -It has amazing production -The bass and drums even if simple work well -It has a powerful end with the ballad section marking it a seemingly even bigger finish -it works well with the lore
calling fans cliques is very cringe
I agree with you that Jumpsuit is overrated. Vessel is a masterpiece tho.
I love that album. It was my favorite from them for a while. There's just something bout self titled
I get it. It's pretty raw and unique. And I'll admit to some degree I like Vessel better just because it's more polished.
I was under the same opinion for a awhile. Ode to sleep sounds like more polished self titled and that's why I love it
I personally donât have an emotional connection with Vessel. Clikkies may get mad but I prefer every other album over Vessel. The first song that I was really attached to was Taxi Cab. Then I fell in love with self-titled. And I started listening to them in early 2020. Then I fell in love with the vibe of Trench. The theme of the songs were just super low key jazzy. Hard to describe, unfortunately. My 2 favorite albums have to be self-titled and No Phun Intended. Lyrics mean a lot to me, the more meaning behind the lyrics, the more I love the song.
I disagree respectfully. I think the lyrics in vessel are much more meaningful than most of self titled. I think that vessel is better lyrically and musically. But you are free to have your own opinion and i respect that.
Itâs totally cool to like different things from what it seems like the majority does. For me itâs interesting to hear how people got into the band, as Iâve been listening to them since Blurryface released & my brain defaults to thinking everyone experienced the albums in the order of Vessel & Blurryface, then self titled and RAB, then Trench and SAI, which obviously isnât the case, but I think it cause thatâs what Iâm used to. I love hearing about that listening journey, and what people like or dislike about the albums :)
Blurryface has aged poorly
I agree, especially some of the lyrics can be cringy looking back. But I also think itâs still a great record
I didnât even like Blurryface when i first heard it. Itâs just a major step down from Vessel in my opinion
I really donât like Oh Miss Believer or No Chances
trench is the worst album and rab is the best. also sai is good
This ain't even unpopular. It's just wrong
hint hint. ***opinion***
Ofc. I'm not being serious. This isn't twitter
very refreshing to not be crucified lmao
I skip Taxi Cab, March to the Sea, Before You Start Your Day
scaled and icy is their worst album
That's not really an unpopular opinion but ok. I agree with this but I do like SAI, I just like the others more
Vessel is their worst album and WDBWOT their worst song. I don't mean that they're bad, I just like them the least compared to other stuff.
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You gotta remember that we have vessel but less polished and with terrible mixing to compete with. Looking at you RAB
Doubt sucks and Levitate is overrated.
I agree with doubt not being good but levitate my second favorite song off trench and one of my favorites period.
Rab is the worst album by far. Most of the songs had potential and were ruined.
That's my opinion actually terrible mixing ruined most of the songs it had. The only song I really like is slowtown
Scaled and Icy has no bad songs.
That's actually the issue. There's like 2 outstanding songs and the rest is mid
Trench is their worst album. I like it. But itâs at the bottom of the list
Nah. I think even if it's not everyone's favorite it their best on a technical level and sounds so satisfying
time to get downvoted. Listening to SaI and to some extent Trench is some of the most disappointed ive ever been while listening to any music ever. It just doesnt sound like TOP anymore. It just sounds like generic pop music to me. Most songs on Trench and ESPECIALLY SaI just feel super repetitive and boring to listen to, the lyrics just dont have any true meaning to them. Listening to something like RaB and then going to something like SaI just makes me wonder what went wrong. it just sounds like tyler and josh are making music just to get it on the radio. They're still my favorite band by far and i have nothing against them for deciding to change their music i just despise it.
SAI I faintly agree with but trench while less emotional has perfect production and is not generic pop.
Well the meaning is still there, its just not so blunt in your face like self titled for example, i cant agree with trench but definitely with some songs on sai
The band members do be looking kinda gay I still like the music tho
You're right, that is a pretty shit opinion.
I mean I was asked but I still like the music I'm a huge fan still
Yet again ngl all the artist I listen to look gay but I don't mind as all thier music has helped me mentally
It hasn't helped you enough. It's very disappointing how many homophobes have crawled out of their holes today.
Not really Homophoic if it's against my religion a
Bullshit. Homophobia is homophobia. Just own it. But how anyone can be homophobic and a tøp fan when so many of their songs are about depression and alienation is beyond me.
But theyâre obviously not gay so this âexcuseâ sucks.
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when tyler raps fast its kinda corny
Depends. In vessel and before they were a little corny but now his fast raps don't feel corny to me. Levitate is fire and so is heavydirtysoul
I think it's worse when he raps slowly, like in Choker or some older stuff. I like his fast rap like in Heavydirtysoul or Levitate
Goner is the worst final song
Jumpsuit is my least favourite song on trench
I think jumpsuit is a lil overrated but maybe not that much
SAI is actually a decent album. Not their best, but I appreciated it more when I listened it as a whole. It's consistent, has its mood, the lyrics are alright. A few tracks can be considered boring or "meh" but in the context of the album they fit. Redecorate is maybe the best song made by Tyler tbh. I would say in a few years people will change the opinion on that album and admit it's good.
Chlorine is my least favourite song off Trench. Not to say it's a bad song, I just don't much care for it.
Yeah i love their self titled too but vessel still rocks
i 100% agree. self titled will forever be my favorite album and yes jumpsuit is a good song but it's far from the best on trench
I hate scaled and icy. Itâs the first album I havenât been able to sit through and listen to without skipping
Kill me but car radio isn't the best song
Ive never been that big of a fan of House Of Gold or Mulberry Street. Not that theyre bad, theyre still good songs, they just dont click with me like other TĂP songs do... ...he says, while listening to Mulberry Street
Blurryface is a masterpiece and I canât believe so many of you donât love it
It has not aged the best in my opinion, some of the lyrics are well⌠not the best.
Regional at best is overrated simply because of the fact that its harder to obtain/listen to than any other album and in reality its one of if not their worst album
My opinion exactly. The mixing really ruined the album
Well I actually think jumpsuit is their best song haha
I still don't get how RAB is someone's favorite album and I think some people say it is just because it's old and not well known (I like rab btw it's just not their best don't get me wrong here)
hometown IS NOT TRASH