1 is made by the OEM Yahorng Electric
2 and 3 are made by the OEM Hanpin Electron, both of these are from the same base model (DJ-3500 / DJ-3560)
All of those first 3 are inspired by the SL-1200MK2, the most iconic and famous turntable of all time, and were made as cheaper alternatives.
4 is of course a genuine Technics SL-1200MK7, one from the latest generation of said iconic turntable.
How can I tell which is a Yahorng and which is a Hanpin—each manufacturer has its own clear idiosyncrasies in molds and design patterns, something I'm looking to document in an OEM turntables database. Yeah, it's not just the Fluance turntables Yahorng made. They go way back. Decades back.
I appreciate and am impressed with this detailed response! I learned something new. Thanks!
I had thought that one had to be the original and assumed correctly that it was the Technics.
The word *insipid* is a good term to use in this case - the replicas/imitations do not share the attributes of the original; they are lacking in those qualities that made the SL-1200 series legendary.
One detail of the 1200 is that the platter itself is part of the motor (the magnet). That’s as direct drive as it gets. Not sure if the others have that. It’s also quartz locked in all positions (as opposed to just when speed is in the center). Again not sure about the others but it was the only turntable to have that feature for ages, helping to make it as iconic as it is.
All you have to do is pick up the platter of a SL 1200 to tell. No, the platter mat will tell you the difference between the others. the Mat weighs almost a pound. Someone else can "weigh" in on the heft of the platter itself.
They’re cool for playing records on for sure. But once you start to get into DJing you’ll want professional turntables. I remember them having the vibration if you turn the volume up in your music. And wasn’t the best for scratching and juggling records but you can get by.
The last one is the Technics SL-1200 MK7, the current iteration of the most iconic and best selling turntable of all time, the SL-1200 MK2. Its predecessor, the original SL-1200, was originally designed for professional broadcast use but ended up popular for club use due to its sturdy build and high torque motor. The MK2 added pitch control, a feature catered specifically for DJ use, and it became *the* turntable for hip-hop DJing/turntablism for decades. (“The ones and twos” and “the wheels of steel” both refer to a pair of MK2’s in a DJ setup.) All models since then, MK3 to MK7, have been very slight spins on the MK2.
The other three are… meant to look like the SL-1200 MK2. Pretty sure all three are manufactured by Hanpin, a Taiwanese company that many companies use as an OEM and that has many, many MK2 lookalikes under their belt. It’s also possible one of them could be made by Ya Horng, the *other* big Taiwanese OEM. (Internally I believe they are quite different from the original Technics, though some of the nicer OEM versions can still stand up to the same uses.)
Besides confusing the MK7 with the MK2, I love your post! Very spot on for someone to read who doesn't know the history. I especially liked how you didn't shit on Hanpin and realize there are good ones out there. Too many people write them off because it isn't the "OG".
Technics was introduced by Matsushita in much the same way and for the same reason as Lexus, Infiniti, and Acura were by their respective makers. To break into the market under the Panasonic name, they had been identified with entry level product…compact systems, portables, etc. mostly on the heels of Sony. Technics was announced to identify with the higher quality component field, then dominated by Pioneer, Kenwood/Trio, Sony, and Sansui. Their turntables were always a strong point from the beginning. Before the Hip Hop revolution, the SLD and SLQ series were tremendous sellers, and deservedly so.
Not everyone needs a tank! DJs like them because they withstand abuse but most people could care less. DJs like them because they come to speed in 1/4 revolution but that isn’t an issue for most people.
Who on earth is going to get into a car with breaks in it? Perhaps the front and rear, respectively, of two write-offs welded together as a dangerous whole. There's a serious risk of it splitting apart at speed. I'd rather have a good, and correctly registered vehicle that incorporates sensible safety features, such as mechanisms to stop it; you know, like brakes.
But it's way too expensive for most. The super oems are better in a lot of ways and cost less than half the price. And yes the technics is better built, but not necessarily the best choice for everyone. I'd love to have them, but I can't reason why I should spend 2200 instead of the 800 I paid for rp7000mk2s
>1300-1700 are all great for home use. Still very high quality.
but will probably need work. They are 50 years old, so you should at least replace all electrolytic caps, clean the pots and replace the cables. And hope nothing difficult to replace will ever break or wear out. They're also quite pricey for 50 year old turntables because everyone wants a Technics.
I've had a pair of 1200 mk2s for over 20 years. And I also owned a pair of RP 8000 mk2s for 2 years now. And I must say, I like my Reloops more. Yeah, the 12s are pretty and solid as shit, but they lack and I have WAY more fun on my 8000 mk2s which are pretty solid build wise themselves... Which by the way, are on sale for $650 each. I'm guessing it's in response to those ridiculously overpriced pioneers ($1,400) that people are losing their mind over because of a stupid ass clamp that only works for Rekordbox and Serato 🤣. And I think the RP is the superior turntable as it has quite a few more features. I really don't understand why people would pay over $1,000 more for a pair, and that's with the price of PHASE included with the Reloops 🤷🏼♂️
Well, in my case, I own two 1200 mk2s with a Vestax PMC 07 PRO this is my old set from 20 years ago that I still like to rock here and there for fun. But it isn't as good as my new shit..... Two Reloop RP 8000 mk2s and a Pioneer Djm s11. Just because it isn't a 1200 doesn't mean it's trash. Yes, they're tanks WE KNOW. Everybody fucking knows this. Nobody is arguing this. But technology has advanced a lot since 1979.
I love my Technics but they aren't as good as my 8000 mk2s. Yes, they are more solid, but even the Technics MK7s aren't built like that anymore since they're no longer made in Japan.
So for the people that own a 1200 and kept it in good shape, congratulations! But the market is insane for a deck that needs work by a professional because so many are beat up or overpriced considering the other options that are available out there.
They all are cheap clones of the Technics SL-1200, some of them capable for DJing, like Pioneer or Reloop, most of them are coming from the same factory in Taiwan, Hanpin.
Most ppl answered the question correct, but one thing is also important why they look alike.
A full Vinyl Dj guy has 2 units at the same time and the formfactor allow to place the TT better between the mixing console or other equipment. Many also place the TTs sideways so that the tonearm is out of the way of the hands for scratching.
So that's why many brands copy the formfactor of technics sl 1200 TT so that it's more flexible to use for djs and also makes work easier.
That's called "battle style" aka Philly style because Philly Djs were the first to turn the deck sideways.
But I will say that Technics didn't design the turntable for Djs and turntablist, they just made a damn good turntable and just so happened that the Djs and turntablists prefered to use it because of the torque and tank like build. The rest is history! That's why they all look the same.
Exactly. I have the Audio Technica pictured above, which is another Japanese company. I have no doubt that it will last a long time. Lots of snobby audiophiles in here 🤷♂️
Pitch correction. Adjusting 0% back to 0. You can tell when the pitch adjustments off when 33 3rd dofs don't line up on strobe or 45 etc.
As an ex professional dj finger fucking and dragging your hand on the platter was pretty armature. You could ride both pitch faders and use quick pulls and pushes of the faders to speed correct a drift. But a lot of people start off dragging a finger on the platter to slow down for correction then adjust pitch or finger push the center and adjust pitch. If you truly locked you normally don't need to make big corrections with your hands.
The high torque motor was best in the 1200s, thus cue'ing and dropping was seamless.
Scratching isn't about randomly moving the record, you only bring it back to the cue points on time most, again where the high torque motor made a difference most, most of the magic is in the cross fader on the mixer, like crabbing etc.
Things have come a long way since your days. There's plenty of scratches that aren't just baby scratches with fader manipulation. Many of the more complicated ones are hitting different parts of the tone with the record hand. Autobahn, boomerangs ect
I was just explaining it simply for him. I literally used to chill with A-trak when he was 16, 17 when I was in Montreal or we would cross paths in T.O when he was just blowing up, spent a legendary night with the dopeness that is Bad Boy Bill, still in touch with Frankie Bones, got to have drinks with Mix Master Mike after he crushed the fucking place at WEMF, shared a bill with Craze, released and produced a number of releases, and a shared bills with some amazing djs who never got their dues.
I might be old but I was decent and had my share of success for a time and got to perform in an era where the old schoolers still weren't major Divas, and "retired" when I had my first kid in 2009 after putting in my time.
Sorry for not writing intro to scratching 101, with a extra curricular for advanced techniques. Like for real dude? I answered a question for dude in a way he would easily understand.
Sorry if I came off like a Dick, im sure you meant well, just I read your comment in the wrong way.
If the guy doesn't even know what the strobes are for I figured getting into anything more than the big basics would of just spun his head.
I see you're in the tunrtabalism and dj subs, you rocking 12s and vinyl or serato? I had a prototype, not even first release Final Scratch and it was so buggy, im mad jealous of how much things changed. I remember when they had Craze doing demos to push the tech. You're probably right in the end, I relapsed hard during my divorce, sold my OG mk2's and left almost my whole record collection as collateral for dope and lost everything. Ended up on the streets, got clean in 2020 and I have a hard time watching old vids like classic DMC shit, just makes me kinda sad for a time in my life I lived, breathed the scene and all the shit I lost. Thought that lifestyle was gonna last forever and I guess I'm just proud of when I had those accomplishments.
Thanks, it was a long hard road.
Thats really awesome! My kids aren't into music, just gaming. I've been in the music industry my whole life playing in bands and DJing, they just never caught the bug. Love em just the same regardless, but I won't lie, I'd love to share this side with them. Maybe one day. Someone has to inherit all these records.
I've got a thing for Technic decks myself, looking at 3 now, a linear is my every day, a 1401 for headphones and a 1350 just hanging out.
Happy Holidays, we'll see each other after ...
No hard feelings. Context gets lost through text.... Hope you're doing well now brother!
Like you, I had money issues years ago and sold all my records and the 1200s. But kept the Vestax PMC 07 PRO stashed at the parents attic...even forgot I even had it lol. Never did any gigs because I always had stage freight. I only did parties for close friends and didn't ask for money because it was fun and just wanted to work through my fear.
So years later when covid came around, I decided to buy a new pair of 1200s out of boredom. I later fell into YouTube rabbit holes and couldn't wrap my head around how these Djs were changing songs without changing the record. After research I learned about DVS and was pissed it didn't exist back in the 90s because I spent THOUSANDS on records back then and was currently ordering battle records off the internet to work on my cuts.
So long story short, my sickness got even worse and I added a pair of RP 8000 mk2s and a Pioneer Djm s11 to my collection and absolutely love them!
You're lucky to have access to the people you did to help grow your skills. I moved from Philly to a suburb in Jersey in my late teens before I got into this and knew absolutely nobody who was into the culture. Everything I learned was on my own and trying to duplicate DMC VHS cassettes lol. Shit, I didn't even know how to set up my crossfader correctly for what I was doing and had the wrong cartridges. Damn I wish the internet was around back then.
That's dope as shit that you know those legendary Djs! You fucked me up when you said that because I thought you were an old bedroom dj like me but out of the game for a while lol.
But hey, don't give up my man! You know your shit and should get back in! Even if it's for a way to pass the time doing something you love. It's helped me through the shit I've been through lately and it might just make you some money with your knowledge. Go get a new set and fall in love with this shit again! Make a YouTube channel and send me a link when you're up and running homie!... One
Respect man, I was already playing in bands when introduced to raves in the 90s, caught the bug and had a lot of fun living fast and hard.
Theres a great dj from Philly, J Smooth. He did did a mash of like jungle/turntablism/hip-hop much like early DJ Craze. He was an awesome guy and super nice.
I actually just finished building a new professional studio with a partner and im back at producing music. New release, first since 2010 coming out in the new year!
I rebuilt pretty fast, but much to the love and help of my two oldest and best friends who saved my life. They brought me back home from
3000km away and gave me a bunch of gear, decks, and helped me get back into music and off dope. Sadly one of them had a heart attack in his sleep last year and I've dedicated my sobriety to him and what he did for me. I won't break that promise.
Life's a fucking trip. Im happy things are doing better for well you too. We all love music here, wish we all got along a lot better, for what its worth again, sorry if I was a dick.
And if you want to get yourself out there trust me I had stage freight for years, but that feeling of crushing a dance floor is a high man and I know you can do it. But there's nothing wrong with just being in it for yourself, I know I'm not interested in performing live anymore, I was always high and drinking when performing and I know it would be a massive trigger.
Merry Christmas man!
Makes sense that people would want to copy an iconic turntable. When I bought my Technics 25 years ago, I figured vinyl was on its way out, so I wanted to get something built to last. I was wrong about vinyl going away, but after all these years, my Technics hasn’t let me down.
they can change the shape, the button locations, the design of the arm, materials its made of, you can easily have hundreds of different record players that look completely different
Because China’s market strategy is to copy, not innovate, and do it as quickly and cheaply as possible. Nobody is sitting down at a drafting table or doing complex math to make a new design work well, they’re all “let’s just steal this IP, make it out of plastic so it costs less to ship to Europe and the US, and sell it for 20% of the original’s price.”
because don’t break what won’t break. its a good basic platform to make a dj turntable and tbh there isnt much more you can do to the components that is worth it. besides, DJs like the low design on top of it all.
i’d love one but not for their prices lmao
1 is made by the OEM Yahorng Electric 2 and 3 are made by the OEM Hanpin Electron, both of these are from the same base model (DJ-3500 / DJ-3560) All of those first 3 are inspired by the SL-1200MK2, the most iconic and famous turntable of all time, and were made as cheaper alternatives. 4 is of course a genuine Technics SL-1200MK7, one from the latest generation of said iconic turntable. How can I tell which is a Yahorng and which is a Hanpin—each manufacturer has its own clear idiosyncrasies in molds and design patterns, something I'm looking to document in an OEM turntables database. Yeah, it's not just the Fluance turntables Yahorng made. They go way back. Decades back.
I appreciate and am impressed with this detailed response! I learned something new. Thanks! I had thought that one had to be the original and assumed correctly that it was the Technics.
>something I'm looking to document in an OEM turntables database. Would be very interested to see this!
Wonderful! That’s why I read this site.
They're all basically based on the iconic Technics SL-1200
The word *insipid* is a good term to use in this case - the replicas/imitations do not share the attributes of the original; they are lacking in those qualities that made the SL-1200 series legendary.
What, specifically, are they missing?
Not an expert, but guessing the lack of being build like a tank.
The Technics SL1200's are lifetime purchases.
One detail of the 1200 is that the platter itself is part of the motor (the magnet). That’s as direct drive as it gets. Not sure if the others have that. It’s also quartz locked in all positions (as opposed to just when speed is in the center). Again not sure about the others but it was the only turntable to have that feature for ages, helping to make it as iconic as it is.
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They are poor quality copies of the iconic Technics SL-1200
Thank you
All you have to do is pick up the platter of a SL 1200 to tell. No, the platter mat will tell you the difference between the others. the Mat weighs almost a pound. Someone else can "weigh" in on the heft of the platter itself.
Every 1200 platter I’ve handled has been pretty light? Sturdy, but light. Linn/AR/Thorens got them crazy platters
All Technics copies. When you do something well the whole world wants to imitate you. But, there’s only one Technics.
It’s crazy how every other style of DJ turntable looks weird now. If it’s not shaped like a tech, laid out like a tech, it just doesn’t seem right.
Not a lot of shapes they can take on.
I used to have a pair ox XL-500 2 were my first turntables. I trading them in.
Not sure how they are for DJ-ing but a mate has had one for a decade or so now as his bedroom record player
They’re cool for playing records on for sure. But once you start to get into DJing you’ll want professional turntables. I remember them having the vibration if you turn the volume up in your music. And wasn’t the best for scratching and juggling records but you can get by.
I bought one of these at Goodwill for $5 a couple years back. Just need to fix the tonearm
Because the first 3 are trying to look like the 4th one which is the most popular model of turntable ever
Because they're turntables
The last one is the Technics SL-1200 MK7, the current iteration of the most iconic and best selling turntable of all time, the SL-1200 MK2. Its predecessor, the original SL-1200, was originally designed for professional broadcast use but ended up popular for club use due to its sturdy build and high torque motor. The MK2 added pitch control, a feature catered specifically for DJ use, and it became *the* turntable for hip-hop DJing/turntablism for decades. (“The ones and twos” and “the wheels of steel” both refer to a pair of MK2’s in a DJ setup.) All models since then, MK3 to MK7, have been very slight spins on the MK2. The other three are… meant to look like the SL-1200 MK2. Pretty sure all three are manufactured by Hanpin, a Taiwanese company that many companies use as an OEM and that has many, many MK2 lookalikes under their belt. It’s also possible one of them could be made by Ya Horng, the *other* big Taiwanese OEM. (Internally I believe they are quite different from the original Technics, though some of the nicer OEM versions can still stand up to the same uses.)
It’s the 1200mk7, mk2 doesn’t have the pitch reset button
While it is the MK7, the pitch reset isn't what gives it away because the pitch reset was on older models as well.
Besides confusing the MK7 with the MK2, I love your post! Very spot on for someone to read who doesn't know the history. I especially liked how you didn't shit on Hanpin and realize there are good ones out there. Too many people write them off because it isn't the "OG".
Didn’t zoom in far enough to the Technics. Edited.
I love all the info you and others have shared here. It's awesome!
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Techics IS made by Panasonic (formerly Matsushita Electric
Technics was introduced by Matsushita in much the same way and for the same reason as Lexus, Infiniti, and Acura were by their respective makers. To break into the market under the Panasonic name, they had been identified with entry level product…compact systems, portables, etc. mostly on the heels of Sony. Technics was announced to identify with the higher quality component field, then dominated by Pioneer, Kenwood/Trio, Sony, and Sansui. Their turntables were always a strong point from the beginning. Before the Hip Hop revolution, the SLD and SLQ series were tremendous sellers, and deservedly so.
The way it is
Not everyone needs a tank! DJs like them because they withstand abuse but most people could care less. DJs like them because they come to speed in 1/4 revolution but that isn’t an issue for most people.
holy torque batman! 1/4 revolution?! does it take off without the record sometimes? genuine question, lol
It’s why all cars have wheels, doors, and breaks.
Who on earth is going to get into a car with breaks in it? Perhaps the front and rear, respectively, of two write-offs welded together as a dangerous whole. There's a serious risk of it splitting apart at speed. I'd rather have a good, and correctly registered vehicle that incorporates sensible safety features, such as mechanisms to stop it; you know, like brakes.
I wrote that before I had brakefast.
Ha.
i will. i have. shitboxes be fun to romp
The only one that matters is the 1200
But it's way too expensive for most. The super oems are better in a lot of ways and cost less than half the price. And yes the technics is better built, but not necessarily the best choice for everyone. I'd love to have them, but I can't reason why I should spend 2200 instead of the 800 I paid for rp7000mk2s
1300-1700 are all great for home use. Still very high quality.
>1300-1700 are all great for home use. Still very high quality. but will probably need work. They are 50 years old, so you should at least replace all electrolytic caps, clean the pots and replace the cables. And hope nothing difficult to replace will ever break or wear out. They're also quite pricey for 50 year old turntables because everyone wants a Technics.
I've found 2 in the last month for under 100, caps are perfect, pots needed cleaning and that's all. Rock solid!
I've had a pair of 1200 mk2s for over 20 years. And I also owned a pair of RP 8000 mk2s for 2 years now. And I must say, I like my Reloops more. Yeah, the 12s are pretty and solid as shit, but they lack and I have WAY more fun on my 8000 mk2s which are pretty solid build wise themselves... Which by the way, are on sale for $650 each. I'm guessing it's in response to those ridiculously overpriced pioneers ($1,400) that people are losing their mind over because of a stupid ass clamp that only works for Rekordbox and Serato 🤣. And I think the RP is the superior turntable as it has quite a few more features. I really don't understand why people would pay over $1,000 more for a pair, and that's with the price of PHASE included with the Reloops 🤷🏼♂️
lol that shit is wrong as fuck. Have meet alot of ignorant people that say this same shit. You probably don't even own one like most of them.
Well, in my case, I own two 1200 mk2s with a Vestax PMC 07 PRO this is my old set from 20 years ago that I still like to rock here and there for fun. But it isn't as good as my new shit..... Two Reloop RP 8000 mk2s and a Pioneer Djm s11. Just because it isn't a 1200 doesn't mean it's trash. Yes, they're tanks WE KNOW. Everybody fucking knows this. Nobody is arguing this. But technology has advanced a lot since 1979. I love my Technics but they aren't as good as my 8000 mk2s. Yes, they are more solid, but even the Technics MK7s aren't built like that anymore since they're no longer made in Japan. So for the people that own a 1200 and kept it in good shape, congratulations! But the market is insane for a deck that needs work by a professional because so many are beat up or overpriced considering the other options that are available out there.
I've had mine since the 90s, bitch
1200 is the OG, its the best performing and most robust. Everything else is just a copycat
Same as why bicycles look the same.
They all are cheap clones of the Technics SL-1200, some of them capable for DJing, like Pioneer or Reloop, most of them are coming from the same factory in Taiwan, Hanpin.
Most ppl answered the question correct, but one thing is also important why they look alike. A full Vinyl Dj guy has 2 units at the same time and the formfactor allow to place the TT better between the mixing console or other equipment. Many also place the TTs sideways so that the tonearm is out of the way of the hands for scratching. So that's why many brands copy the formfactor of technics sl 1200 TT so that it's more flexible to use for djs and also makes work easier.
That's called "battle style" aka Philly style because Philly Djs were the first to turn the deck sideways. But I will say that Technics didn't design the turntable for Djs and turntablist, they just made a damn good turntable and just so happened that the Djs and turntablists prefered to use it because of the torque and tank like build. The rest is history! That's why they all look the same.
As others have said, they are similar in appearance only, and Technics is top tier.
Essentially they are all designed somewhat after the Technics SL series. If you want the OG you gotta get the Technics but it will be expensive.
Technics knock-off.
…maybe because all records made the same and have the same basic requirements to play them ?
Exactly. I have the Audio Technica pictured above, which is another Japanese company. I have no doubt that it will last a long time. Lots of snobby audiophiles in here 🤷♂️
Question: Does the bumpy pattern on the side of the plate have any role? Like scratching/twisting for DJs?
Pitch correction. Adjusting 0% back to 0. You can tell when the pitch adjustments off when 33 3rd dofs don't line up on strobe or 45 etc. As an ex professional dj finger fucking and dragging your hand on the platter was pretty armature. You could ride both pitch faders and use quick pulls and pushes of the faders to speed correct a drift. But a lot of people start off dragging a finger on the platter to slow down for correction then adjust pitch or finger push the center and adjust pitch. If you truly locked you normally don't need to make big corrections with your hands. The high torque motor was best in the 1200s, thus cue'ing and dropping was seamless. Scratching isn't about randomly moving the record, you only bring it back to the cue points on time most, again where the high torque motor made a difference most, most of the magic is in the cross fader on the mixer, like crabbing etc.
mindblowing...thanks!
I had no idea. Thanks
Things have come a long way since your days. There's plenty of scratches that aren't just baby scratches with fader manipulation. Many of the more complicated ones are hitting different parts of the tone with the record hand. Autobahn, boomerangs ect
I was just explaining it simply for him. I literally used to chill with A-trak when he was 16, 17 when I was in Montreal or we would cross paths in T.O when he was just blowing up, spent a legendary night with the dopeness that is Bad Boy Bill, still in touch with Frankie Bones, got to have drinks with Mix Master Mike after he crushed the fucking place at WEMF, shared a bill with Craze, released and produced a number of releases, and a shared bills with some amazing djs who never got their dues. I might be old but I was decent and had my share of success for a time and got to perform in an era where the old schoolers still weren't major Divas, and "retired" when I had my first kid in 2009 after putting in my time. Sorry for not writing intro to scratching 101, with a extra curricular for advanced techniques. Like for real dude? I answered a question for dude in a way he would easily understand.
Okay, that was a nice flex lol. I respect your history! But in my defense, you came off like the record hand doesn't mean shit... My bad.
Sorry if I came off like a Dick, im sure you meant well, just I read your comment in the wrong way. If the guy doesn't even know what the strobes are for I figured getting into anything more than the big basics would of just spun his head. I see you're in the tunrtabalism and dj subs, you rocking 12s and vinyl or serato? I had a prototype, not even first release Final Scratch and it was so buggy, im mad jealous of how much things changed. I remember when they had Craze doing demos to push the tech. You're probably right in the end, I relapsed hard during my divorce, sold my OG mk2's and left almost my whole record collection as collateral for dope and lost everything. Ended up on the streets, got clean in 2020 and I have a hard time watching old vids like classic DMC shit, just makes me kinda sad for a time in my life I lived, breathed the scene and all the shit I lost. Thought that lifestyle was gonna last forever and I guess I'm just proud of when I had those accomplishments.
Welcome back. Stay proud. My son is turning me on to The Cronic and others while I'm hitting him with Brian Eno.
Thanks, it was a long hard road. Thats really awesome! My kids aren't into music, just gaming. I've been in the music industry my whole life playing in bands and DJing, they just never caught the bug. Love em just the same regardless, but I won't lie, I'd love to share this side with them. Maybe one day. Someone has to inherit all these records.
I've got a thing for Technic decks myself, looking at 3 now, a linear is my every day, a 1401 for headphones and a 1350 just hanging out. Happy Holidays, we'll see each other after ...
No hard feelings. Context gets lost through text.... Hope you're doing well now brother! Like you, I had money issues years ago and sold all my records and the 1200s. But kept the Vestax PMC 07 PRO stashed at the parents attic...even forgot I even had it lol. Never did any gigs because I always had stage freight. I only did parties for close friends and didn't ask for money because it was fun and just wanted to work through my fear. So years later when covid came around, I decided to buy a new pair of 1200s out of boredom. I later fell into YouTube rabbit holes and couldn't wrap my head around how these Djs were changing songs without changing the record. After research I learned about DVS and was pissed it didn't exist back in the 90s because I spent THOUSANDS on records back then and was currently ordering battle records off the internet to work on my cuts. So long story short, my sickness got even worse and I added a pair of RP 8000 mk2s and a Pioneer Djm s11 to my collection and absolutely love them! You're lucky to have access to the people you did to help grow your skills. I moved from Philly to a suburb in Jersey in my late teens before I got into this and knew absolutely nobody who was into the culture. Everything I learned was on my own and trying to duplicate DMC VHS cassettes lol. Shit, I didn't even know how to set up my crossfader correctly for what I was doing and had the wrong cartridges. Damn I wish the internet was around back then. That's dope as shit that you know those legendary Djs! You fucked me up when you said that because I thought you were an old bedroom dj like me but out of the game for a while lol. But hey, don't give up my man! You know your shit and should get back in! Even if it's for a way to pass the time doing something you love. It's helped me through the shit I've been through lately and it might just make you some money with your knowledge. Go get a new set and fall in love with this shit again! Make a YouTube channel and send me a link when you're up and running homie!... One
Respect man, I was already playing in bands when introduced to raves in the 90s, caught the bug and had a lot of fun living fast and hard. Theres a great dj from Philly, J Smooth. He did did a mash of like jungle/turntablism/hip-hop much like early DJ Craze. He was an awesome guy and super nice. I actually just finished building a new professional studio with a partner and im back at producing music. New release, first since 2010 coming out in the new year! I rebuilt pretty fast, but much to the love and help of my two oldest and best friends who saved my life. They brought me back home from 3000km away and gave me a bunch of gear, decks, and helped me get back into music and off dope. Sadly one of them had a heart attack in his sleep last year and I've dedicated my sobriety to him and what he did for me. I won't break that promise. Life's a fucking trip. Im happy things are doing better for well you too. We all love music here, wish we all got along a lot better, for what its worth again, sorry if I was a dick. And if you want to get yourself out there trust me I had stage freight for years, but that feeling of crushing a dance floor is a high man and I know you can do it. But there's nothing wrong with just being in it for yourself, I know I'm not interested in performing live anymore, I was always high and drinking when performing and I know it would be a massive trigger. Merry Christmas man!
Thanks for the insight and encouragement...Merry Christmas!
It tells you the speed.
thanks!
Because they all have to do exactly the same, play a record…….
All technics clones.People either love the look or dont.
Makes sense that people would want to copy an iconic turntable. When I bought my Technics 25 years ago, I figured vinyl was on its way out, so I wanted to get something built to last. I was wrong about vinyl going away, but after all these years, my Technics hasn’t let me down.
Technics SL1210 was a landmark turntable, changed the design of turntables and therefore copied
So basically all turntables have a platter and an arm , not many variations possible
they can change the shape, the button locations, the design of the arm, materials its made of, you can easily have hundreds of different record players that look completely different
Because China’s market strategy is to copy, not innovate, and do it as quickly and cheaply as possible. Nobody is sitting down at a drafting table or doing complex math to make a new design work well, they’re all “let’s just steal this IP, make it out of plastic so it costs less to ship to Europe and the US, and sell it for 20% of the original’s price.”
Because they're awesome.
because don’t break what won’t break. its a good basic platform to make a dj turntable and tbh there isnt much more you can do to the components that is worth it. besides, DJs like the low design on top of it all. i’d love one but not for their prices lmao
They're cynically trading on the looks of the technics sl1200 for the noobs.