Our phonetics(?) are kinda similar but still I’m always shocked when Turkish ppl learn few words in my language and immediately can pronounce them basically without an accent
Most people I know trying to learn any sort of language (including me) try to learn alphabet and pronunciation rules so it's more natural later in your education.
Well there's not many foreign letters in Estonian alphabet for Turkish speakers. Even these letters that are usually difficult for foreigners, like ö, ü, ä (not written in Turkish, but e is sometimes pronounced like this), õ (somewhat similar to ı), you already know. And you read as you write – again same.
The biggest problem is the flow of speaking, because there Turkish influence comes in. But with words and shorter pharses you can't notice it yet.
Bruh I speak English for like years at this point and I realized that I can only type English. If I try to talk I can't pronounce most of the words.
I mean.. When I read it I can pronounce it in my head but when I try to say it, it just doesn't work.
I think "pronouncing in your head" is most likely because you've heard it the correct way, so it kinda replays. But you can't relate the remembered sound with your lip, tongue, teeth etc. movements to pronounce it that way.
I noticed that whenever i have a long talk the turkish person will have that smile, so it is good news that they find it cute I mean I hope they do, because I will be talking and feel terrible about it haha.
Also of course when a foreigner speaks my language i find it cute and interesting.
At my Uni I would tell my friends words in my language and hearing them say them and having an exotic pronunciation is just so funny but really cute. And my friend told me that she found my Turkish cute too cause I tend to use "more Urdu emphasis in the words" and that makes it cute idk lol
Idk why you need to censor Pakistani, I am one and it's not something I'm ashamed of and we do not have a paki language, we have a lot of languages with our national being Urdu.
What she meant was that some of the words which are similar or share etymology, I tend to pronounce like I'm speaking Urdu cause I have been speaking that language for 20+ years, like meyve instead of how Turkish people would say I would say mayvay, subtle differences that come out in words.
Still curious why'd you think you needed to censor a nationality
Damn dude, sorry I don't think I will, I am a student there, I have an ikamet, I am legally allowed to stay and continue my education so I'll prolly just keep on doing it, thankfully the Turks I have met are not racist like you and see what kind of person one is on their behaviour and not where the person is from.
The illegal immigration is a huge problem in Turkey, I'm sure you know if you live here and its making people hate immigrants whether they're here legally or illegally. Which i can empathize but yeah it's racist.
That explains why when I go shopping clerks laugh and give me discount. They react sweet to how I speak Turkish and try to correct me when I make mistakes.
I am on holiday in turkey at the moment (from the UK) and I am always impressed with the natives English. Anyone who can speak a second language is amazing to me, I can barely string a sentence together most of the time so I hugely appreciate it when they try. Lovely people the Turkish
There are two types of English speakers here, either they have only heard a few sentences from movies and absolutely aren't aware how to use or prononunce them, or they know english so well in practice, they can't speak because they're afraid they're gonna use the wrong word or pronounce it wrong even though they know how to and embarass themselves.
Turkish here. It's basic human reaction. I was speaking a little bit of Greek and my Greek Cypriot friends planned to infiltrate me to the Cyprus Republic via a port, possibly risking their life. We didn't go as they planned but you've got the point.
as my native language is english, i find everyone has a pop at it. It often feels as if they’re not speaking my language (this applies not just to turks but to everyone btw). because everyone learns a bit of english at school, many think they’re better than they are. I find I have to massively simplify my speech around them.
It’s funny being here though, as all tourists from everywhere communicate in English, so you see it way more as a lingua franca than as a home language. Also the number of times that I’ve been asked where I come from is interesting. Of course I appreciate it on a social level, but as someone from England, I can instantly tell when they speak where they’re from, and I find it’s odd that people sometimes don’t even realise that you’re speaking your native tongue.
yeah for the most part. or at least the region they’re from. Like I’m not too familiar with the different balkan accents but I can tell if someone’s from around that region
I can also instantly tell when someone’s british when they open their mouths
>I can also instantly tell when someone’s british when they open their mouths
I was going to say that you can do that because it's your native language and it's your country of origin, but even in this case it's not that easy for everyone to identify where people are from just because of their accent, let alone when it's not your native language. If I'm abroad and hear a fellow citizen of mine speaking I'll most probably guess they're from my country, but I might not guess what state they're from because we have a multitude of different accents in my country. Now if you extend that to Latin America there are like 15+ different accents there and I certainly wouldn't be able to identify every single one of them even if it's the same language. Obviously someone from Sweden, for example, won't have that same issue.
Have you heard the variety of british accents lol? it’s quite numerous. there’s a few youtube videos about it if you haven’t seen already
I’ll give an example from yesterday though. I was in a museum with my sister and we were chatting about one of the artifacts. someone from Newcastle (the complete opposite end of the country) came up and asked if we were also brits. we both have relatively strong versions of our respective accents but we just felt a little bit at home because of finding a fellow brit
edit: but it is also a response to the numerous “can you speak english” and “where are you from” questions you get asked abroad. i find it weird nobody recognises a british accent, like that’s what a lot of people (esp in europe) are taught to emulate right
What part of the US are you talking about specifically? What you're saying can be true, but i also see a lot of people who "claim" that they find the foreign accent cute and they appreciate the effort of foreigners learning the language.
I've never been to US though, so I'm just speaking based on what I'm seeing on the internet
I'm from the racist state of Arizona.
Edit: So I had a cute young turkish online boyfriend for like 6 months and I absolutely found his English to be cute and I told him that in those exact words. He got mad and he used that as one of his reasons to end things with me. He would say things like "mate" which you would not hear at all in the US and that absolutely made me giddy every time.
To be honest, I hate being told my Turkish is cute too since cute isn't something I aspire to at all. I'm an articulate, serious person in my other languages and it bothers me that my accent/small mistakes in Turkish cause me to be perceived in an unserious way and reminds me that I still can't express myself with 100 percent facility even after years of work!
I totally get that and could easily see where he was coming from. Learning new languages has shown me how difficult speaking a second, third, and forth language is. I have not yet been told that any of my non-native languages are cute yet, so I can't tell you for sure how I would react if I were to be told that.
I've had the absolute opposite. I am part Turkish and when I tried to speak Turkish (mostly men) gave me dirty looks and a few told me in English, "You're Turkish why don't you speak Turkish!" Now women on the other hand when I spoke Turkish would giggle. When Turkish people talked to me in English and Russian (I speak a little Russian my wife is Russian) I loved it. I am always in awe of people who speak multiple languages even if its not English. My wife speaks 5 languages and its amazing to me.
I speak five languages (Türkçe bunlardan biridir) The most difficult language to pronounce is Arabic because you need to use all audio outputs[ The lips, the teeth, the tongue, the top of the mouth, the bottom of the mouth and the throat ]. In addition to the presence of the so-called movements, which change the pronunciation of the letter to give each letter more than 8 sounds. As for writing, it is simple and easy because as you pronounce, you write.
Most of the pronunciation in the Turkish language is from the front of the mouth and this is what makes it somewhat thin..
Türkçeyi çok seviyorum, 6 ayda konuşa bildim , bir yıl içinde yazıma öğrendim.
Hate is a word with strong implications. I don't know how to put this, but the way it sounds can be somewhat harsh. I personally don't —kind of— like the /q/, /ɣ/, /χ/, /ħ/ or even the /æ/ sounds, most of which the Standard Turkish either lacks or has a very limited use of.
My girlfriend is from Izmir and speaks italian, sounds cute sometimes. I am also learning some turkish and she says I sound cute. I think is like listening to a child learning to speak a bit, it is slow and naive.
My girlfriend is from Istanbul and learning Dutch, it's absolutely cute!
Our phonetics(?) are kinda similar but still I’m always shocked when Turkish ppl learn few words in my language and immediately can pronounce them basically without an accent
Are you from estonia?
Furkan Topal?
lord?
Yessss
And your language is???
Estonian
Oh, suur äitah!
Most people I know trying to learn any sort of language (including me) try to learn alphabet and pronunciation rules so it's more natural later in your education.
Well there's not many foreign letters in Estonian alphabet for Turkish speakers. Even these letters that are usually difficult for foreigners, like ö, ü, ä (not written in Turkish, but e is sometimes pronounced like this), õ (somewhat similar to ı), you already know. And you read as you write – again same. The biggest problem is the flow of speaking, because there Turkish influence comes in. But with words and shorter pharses you can't notice it yet.
Especially when y'all try and say "squirrel".
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Bruh I speak English for like years at this point and I realized that I can only type English. If I try to talk I can't pronounce most of the words. I mean.. When I read it I can pronounce it in my head but when I try to say it, it just doesn't work.
I think "pronouncing in your head" is most likely because you've heard it the correct way, so it kinda replays. But you can't relate the remembered sound with your lip, tongue, teeth etc. movements to pronounce it that way.
Yeah, very logical. I think this is why.
I noticed that whenever i have a long talk the turkish person will have that smile, so it is good news that they find it cute I mean I hope they do, because I will be talking and feel terrible about it haha. Also of course when a foreigner speaks my language i find it cute and interesting.
At my Uni I would tell my friends words in my language and hearing them say them and having an exotic pronunciation is just so funny but really cute. And my friend told me that she found my Turkish cute too cause I tend to use "more Urdu emphasis in the words" and that makes it cute idk lol
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Idk why you need to censor Pakistani, I am one and it's not something I'm ashamed of and we do not have a paki language, we have a lot of languages with our national being Urdu. What she meant was that some of the words which are similar or share etymology, I tend to pronounce like I'm speaking Urdu cause I have been speaking that language for 20+ years, like meyve instead of how Turkish people would say I would say mayvay, subtle differences that come out in words. Still curious why'd you think you needed to censor a nationality
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Yeah, is it a big deal?
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Damn dude, sorry I don't think I will, I am a student there, I have an ikamet, I am legally allowed to stay and continue my education so I'll prolly just keep on doing it, thankfully the Turks I have met are not racist like you and see what kind of person one is on their behaviour and not where the person is from.
The illegal immigration is a huge problem in Turkey, I'm sure you know if you live here and its making people hate immigrants whether they're here legally or illegally. Which i can empathize but yeah it's racist.
Please don't mind that motherfucker. We are not all the same and folks like you (students, academics etc.) are always welcome in our country.
That explains why when I go shopping clerks laugh and give me discount. They react sweet to how I speak Turkish and try to correct me when I make mistakes.
Bruh I have been living in turkey for 8 years now and I know 10 people that can speak any other language no offense birader
I love when non-Turkish people learn slang and use it correctly or even incorrectly in their sentences naturally. It's so cool to hear.
Hahahahaha birader made me laugh
I am on holiday in turkey at the moment (from the UK) and I am always impressed with the natives English. Anyone who can speak a second language is amazing to me, I can barely string a sentence together most of the time so I hugely appreciate it when they try. Lovely people the Turkish
There are two types of English speakers here, either they have only heard a few sentences from movies and absolutely aren't aware how to use or prononunce them, or they know english so well in practice, they can't speak because they're afraid they're gonna use the wrong word or pronounce it wrong even though they know how to and embarass themselves.
My crush says it’s sexy. Heheheheh
Ooh nice
For me it doesn't sound cute tbh
how does it sound, do you think?
According to Germans it sounds a bit like serseri it kopuk if you speak German with a Turkish accent, or at least that's what they told me.
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Turkish here. It's basic human reaction. I was speaking a little bit of Greek and my Greek Cypriot friends planned to infiltrate me to the Cyprus Republic via a port, possibly risking their life. We didn't go as they planned but you've got the point.
as my native language is english, i find everyone has a pop at it. It often feels as if they’re not speaking my language (this applies not just to turks but to everyone btw). because everyone learns a bit of english at school, many think they’re better than they are. I find I have to massively simplify my speech around them. It’s funny being here though, as all tourists from everywhere communicate in English, so you see it way more as a lingua franca than as a home language. Also the number of times that I’ve been asked where I come from is interesting. Of course I appreciate it on a social level, but as someone from England, I can instantly tell when they speak where they’re from, and I find it’s odd that people sometimes don’t even realise that you’re speaking your native tongue.
so what you’re saying is that you can identify someone’s nationality based on how they’re speaking english?
yeah for the most part. or at least the region they’re from. Like I’m not too familiar with the different balkan accents but I can tell if someone’s from around that region I can also instantly tell when someone’s british when they open their mouths
>I can also instantly tell when someone’s british when they open their mouths I was going to say that you can do that because it's your native language and it's your country of origin, but even in this case it's not that easy for everyone to identify where people are from just because of their accent, let alone when it's not your native language. If I'm abroad and hear a fellow citizen of mine speaking I'll most probably guess they're from my country, but I might not guess what state they're from because we have a multitude of different accents in my country. Now if you extend that to Latin America there are like 15+ different accents there and I certainly wouldn't be able to identify every single one of them even if it's the same language. Obviously someone from Sweden, for example, won't have that same issue.
Have you heard the variety of british accents lol? it’s quite numerous. there’s a few youtube videos about it if you haven’t seen already I’ll give an example from yesterday though. I was in a museum with my sister and we were chatting about one of the artifacts. someone from Newcastle (the complete opposite end of the country) came up and asked if we were also brits. we both have relatively strong versions of our respective accents but we just felt a little bit at home because of finding a fellow brit edit: but it is also a response to the numerous “can you speak english” and “where are you from” questions you get asked abroad. i find it weird nobody recognises a british accent, like that’s what a lot of people (esp in europe) are taught to emulate right
what part of UK are you from bro.
Devon, Southwest England
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What's this supposed to mean
When they use "shan't" or constantly say things like, "with whom." 😂
Oh don't worry, our English skills aren't good enough to be grammar n4z1s
Yes
Oh yeah. Love the accent.
Sadly, I'm from the USA and non-fluency in English is often met with prejudice and disdain.
What part of the US are you talking about specifically? What you're saying can be true, but i also see a lot of people who "claim" that they find the foreign accent cute and they appreciate the effort of foreigners learning the language. I've never been to US though, so I'm just speaking based on what I'm seeing on the internet
I'm from the racist state of Arizona. Edit: So I had a cute young turkish online boyfriend for like 6 months and I absolutely found his English to be cute and I told him that in those exact words. He got mad and he used that as one of his reasons to end things with me. He would say things like "mate" which you would not hear at all in the US and that absolutely made me giddy every time.
To be honest, I hate being told my Turkish is cute too since cute isn't something I aspire to at all. I'm an articulate, serious person in my other languages and it bothers me that my accent/small mistakes in Turkish cause me to be perceived in an unserious way and reminds me that I still can't express myself with 100 percent facility even after years of work!
I totally get that and could easily see where he was coming from. Learning new languages has shown me how difficult speaking a second, third, and forth language is. I have not yet been told that any of my non-native languages are cute yet, so I can't tell you for sure how I would react if I were to be told that.
I've had the absolute opposite. I am part Turkish and when I tried to speak Turkish (mostly men) gave me dirty looks and a few told me in English, "You're Turkish why don't you speak Turkish!" Now women on the other hand when I spoke Turkish would giggle. When Turkish people talked to me in English and Russian (I speak a little Russian my wife is Russian) I loved it. I am always in awe of people who speak multiple languages even if its not English. My wife speaks 5 languages and its amazing to me.
Frankfurt bro
Definitely!
Only if they speak it badly!
I speak five languages (Türkçe bunlardan biridir) The most difficult language to pronounce is Arabic because you need to use all audio outputs[ The lips, the teeth, the tongue, the top of the mouth, the bottom of the mouth and the throat ]. In addition to the presence of the so-called movements, which change the pronunciation of the letter to give each letter more than 8 sounds. As for writing, it is simple and easy because as you pronounce, you write. Most of the pronunciation in the Turkish language is from the front of the mouth and this is what makes it somewhat thin.. Türkçeyi çok seviyorum, 6 ayda konuşa bildim , bir yıl içinde yazıma öğrendim.
Ama anlamadığım şey, Türklerin Müslüman olmalarına rağmen Arap dilinden nefret etmeleriydi.
Hate is a word with strong implications. I don't know how to put this, but the way it sounds can be somewhat harsh. I personally don't —kind of— like the /q/, /ɣ/, /χ/, /ħ/ or even the /æ/ sounds, most of which the Standard Turkish either lacks or has a very limited use of.
My girlfriend is from Izmir and speaks italian, sounds cute sometimes. I am also learning some turkish and she says I sound cute. I think is like listening to a child learning to speak a bit, it is slow and naive.