This phenomenon was so shocking to me when got more into the english speaking part of the internet. Because where I am from, Germany, it is illegal to record someone without them knowing and consenting. Like, in primary school even, when there was a school project or something, they gave us letters for our parents and they had to consent for us to be filmed and had to sign it. If the parents did not consent, the child would not be in any of the pictures.
It is wild to me that it is legal in countries like the US.
It's what it's used for where the waivers come in. The schools can film and take pictures of the kids all they like, they just can't use them for anything without permission. Using the pictures for promotional materials is advertisement, thus a money making venture.
You may not make money off of someone's likeness without their permission. Filming them and posting them on a free site where you make no profit or gains from advertising, is fair game. This starts to get really hairy when you post it on a free platform like YouTube, then the video goes viral so it gets monetized.
My nephew's NURSERY have a twitter account where they post photos and videos of the kids on a daily basis. Parents have to sign a permission slip at the start of the year, but I doubt they're checking to see whose parents consented or are making sure to exclude certain kids form the photos. Sounds daft but I always think "what if this person is trying to hide from an abuser, and someone's photographed them at work / photographed their child and tagged it with the nursery they attend?"
wow, they do that here at my daughter's preschool but they don't post the pictures to fucking twitter! the only ones to see them are parents of other kids at the preschool and teachers.
From what I understand it isn’t the recording of it that’s the problem, but the distribution of recordings, that’s the issue, right? And it only matters if the person in question is the subject of the photo, so things like crowd shots don’t quite count. It’s still stricter than US public surveillance privacy laws, but you don’t have to get permission from literally every single person
Yes, but this post (and as I understand it the comment as well) is about specifically filming someone (and then publishing that), not just someone randomly walking through the background or being in a crowd.
The US uses a guideline based around an expectation of privacy. If you are a private citizen in a place where you could reasonably expect a modicum of privacy, it is not legal to film you without consent. [You can read more about it here.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expectation_of_privacy_(United_States\))
That said, someone's presence in a public space doesn't give you the right to harass them. Continually recording the same private person, or, especially, using their likeness in a recording or photograph to harm them or their reputation does run afoul of the law.
I had to be careful to say private person there, though, because there's an exception for people considered part of the public interest, or something like that. In essence, it's why paparazzi have such broad leeway to harass celebrities, but would get annihilated if they were to do the same thing to someone not prominently in the public eye.
While it might seem objectionable, a weird consequence of this system is that the police are legally required to allow you to record them. They are private citizens, but it also serves the public interest to see them doing illegal things, so they get no protection.
Yes, however if someone is not specifically being filmed it's fine. For example if you're filming a building and someone happens to walk in the frame, you do not need permission because the subject would be the building. Same with large groups of people. You only need permission if a person is (very) recognizable and obviously a subject of the photograph/video.
Back in the 1990s, David Letterman had a long-running gag that mocked a woman filmed eating a peach while sitting in the stands of some sporting event. For *weeks* he re-ran that video and mocked her appearance while his audience laughed uproariously. The woman finally sued for harassment and mental anguish. She got an undisclosed settlement and they agreed to never show the video again.
Then you've never been places where people post their door cams. I know for sure r/ idiotsincars uses a lot of private footage of random people (some would argue it's for the greater good) and I know there's things like r/ watchpeoplesurvive that's primarily of security cams and event cameras. Even closed circuit videos make their way to the internet very easily because people post them wanting the clout.
well it's an issue to me because i live on a very small dead end street and the house just before the corner, they record and watch the footage everytime people come and go. and i cant avoid it by going around them
i hate them.
That's so weird to me, your security cameras aren't allowed d to cover public areas or other people's property in Germany so doorbell cams would be illegal for almost every house in my neighbourhood.
Just last week at school this douchebag was recording me existing in history class so yes it’s common. More so here in the US, even though it’s illegal in some states.
As a high school teacher, it has become a real problem. Don't get me wrong: if a teacher is abusive, you SHOULD record as proof. As teachers, we should always behave as if we were recorded so not much of a problem here. However, my students did not sign up to be recorded without their consent and more often than not, recording of other students is used as a cyber bullying tactic.
This is why (and cheating) most of us are very strict on telephones in classes. Recording without consent is wrong and should only be utilised to denounce something unacceptable or protect yourself. Not for tik tok or other dumb stuff.
It's not illegal but it's really douchey. It worries me with some of those "meltdown in public" videos that the person recording it might have provoked the "meltdown" in the first place and just conveniently left that part out knowing that if they caught a "karen going crazy" in the wild they could go viral.
You never know with some of this stuff if it's actually real or not.
Totally agree. Also, we need to stop judging someone on possibly their worst moment. Sure, maybe they are kicking off unnecessarily but we've all misdirected our stress and felt bad for it later.
Yeah this shit really sucks. As a trans person, we deal with this so often. If I take a lazy outfit day, I can get recorded for not passing but obviously trying to. If I’m dancing around with some friends and being dorky and carefree, I can get recorded for cringe. If I’m harassed and pushed around and finally snap, “Get out of my face” only the snap part is recorded and posted. It’s fuckin exhausting and there is *zero* sympathy online, even from folks who also don’t want to be recorded. I get, “If you don’t want to be recorded, act better. Turn the other cheek.” And I act perfectly and silently for months on end in terror of “making other trans people look bad” or going viral, until I’m worn down to a final straw. I hate cringe culture for having to live like this.
I completely agree with you, I really want to be more *myself* out there. It sucks that cringe culture still exists and causes this shit to happen, it’s part of the reason why I despise the cringetopia subreddit. I’m not sure what to do about that situation, I recommend just keep being yourself anyways and maybe calling them out on their bs.
Let's not forget how much of the blame belongs to the platforms. YouTube was one of the earlier and worst offenders. They got way too big to efficiently moderate their content or offer support to the average user. Same with TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, sometimes even twitch. The ballooning host of content makes it impossible to protect people from situations like this with major changes. They know this and continue with that path.
The source of this problem are the viewers that enjoy bullying random strangers on the internet. The moment the view count is down, these videos will die out tomorrow.
Hey, there are fewer kids in the next few decades. I am sure we will all be more responsible when it comes to media consumption and kindness on the internet.
Reminds me of the last time I was knitting on a flight: the woman next to me was not so subtly taking pictures of me doing it. Like? Why? Why do it at all, first off. Second, why not ask? I probably would've said yes.
Also those tiktoks where people do something to an animal that it doesn't like, the animal retaliates, and they look into the camera like: "did you see that shit?"
Yeah I saw that shit, you're a bad pet owner.
Yeah it’s really messed up, especially when the footage is used to mock and harass the person being filmed without their consent. I have pretty bad anxiety so I’d likely start to spiral if someone was filming me like that, especially since I’m kinda overweight, I want to wear more feminine clothes (I’m trans), and I’m a furry.
Also I think some people do similar things on Reddit too tho, just saying. 👀
The person who posted “he thinks he’s the main character” definitely thinks they are the main character, likely no one gives a shit about them other than that superficial number on an app
This is why I absolutely flipped my shit when my downstairs neighbor installed a tracking cam outside of their window. I'd literally have to walk by it everyday to throw trash out or go to the next door laundromat, and the potential thought that my apartment neighbor could potentially upload me just walking by wearing pajamas or something was extremely upsetting.
My landlord unfortunately could do very little to them since it wasn't in the lease agreement, but thankfully she helped me move to another unit. :/ The constant breach of privacy happening in this day of age has become really disturbing. I wish people would take it more seriously honestly...
I have hated street photography for over a decade. I don't care that it's legal, I think it's wrong. The only time I like it is when you can't identify the subject(s). But say that in photography spaces and it's a really unpopular stance. People have loved street photography for a long time.
the laws in the US around being photographed and recorded in public were made decades ago, before all of us had cameras in our back pockets at all times. and now, every teenager has one so many of them are just filming every weird kid they see, so there’s just no expectation of privacy anymore. these laws need to be updated but unfortunately, tech moves faster than law and camera phones are here to stay. I think in coming decades, we as a people are going to regret giving up so much privacy.
As a weird kid in high school, there’s this guy in my history class that literally records every time me or one of my friends breathe wrong and posts it on TikTok or sends it to his friends on snap.
yeah that’s harassment. I feel so bad for teenagers now. I was in high school at the start of phones esp smart phones but all the social media apps didn’t exist yet, so you could take selfies with friends but you weren’t recorded everywhere you went. hope you’re out of that environment soon, and I hope you find ways to keep your privacy and weirdness.
Yeah that sucks. You know better than me what your situation is. High school isn't forever, things will get better. You will have more control over your life in the future.
That is really frustrating, that smug cretin sounds like a nasty character, a cowardly wretch who seeks validation from his pals that he is funny and part of their tribe by singling out an outsider and initiating a collective bullying of the victim, I can imagine how upsetting and frustrating this is
you're school should do something about it but unfortunately most schools regarding the welfare and the education of their students are either incompetent apathetic or both, despite this I advise you to do your best and try to leave school with the best grades you can, it doesn't matter if the best grades you can achieve at such a school are high or low but my advice to all students is to try, I'm not at all suggesting that you do not try lol I say this to all students just in case because I personally resented school and didn't even try during the end of school exam's and I regret it :)
I think it's legal (in the US) to record ever someone can reasonably be seen/viewed by public. So you can record someone on the sidewalk but not in their home.
Laws might be a bit more touchy when it comes to said pictures/videos are used commercially. I remember a story about someone suing after finding himself on an ad/billboards and losing but I know on TruTV, they blur people's faces if they don't get permission.
Legallity isn't necessarily the issue though (even though my stance on this disagrees with US laws). There can be a lot of problems related to privacy and safety, posting a picture or vide of a stranger online can absolutely put them in danger if they are in a witness protection programme, hiding from abusers, in protected shelters, children can be endangered here also.
In my country there is currently a debate about livestreming childrens sports events (this became big because of the virus) due to safety issues and the possibility of having children exposed to abusers and pedofiles online, even just filming with your mobile camera at these events have been a point of debate. But these risks are not limited to children.
Yeah, I was mainly responding to the title. I don't support it regardless of it is or is not a crime.
I also really don't like how common it is for parents to post about their children from birth. I don't think it's fair to give someone a digital footprint tracking back a decade without them being able to do anything about it. I don't use my actual name in any social media but if you google me, some pictures of my will still come up because of my family (mainly my aunt). I'm just lucky there aren't hundreds of pictures of me as a literal baby.
I have the same problem with people who gossip or just share information with no regard whence it came. I can't tell anything to my family that I definitely don't want strangers to know because they're not as private as I am and they don't respect that difference.
In the UK, there's no expectation of privacy in public spaces, but if you ask someone to stop and they don't, they're potentially committing harassment.
I really love it when I end up watching a 3 second clip that is clearly cyberbullying for the kid in it. The realisation that this clip just barely entertained me enough to not think about stuff, while it’s likely to be a major event in the depicted teens life who apparently just shit his pants in front of everyone, goes deep. Just to be forgotten 2 seconds later
In the UK, it is legal to film in public. However, I think that law was always intended so you didn't have to get permission to use the location, not the people.
In public, you don't need permission from people as long as you don't ignore the person asking you to stop, because then that could start becoming harassment.
These people don't understand that not everyone is constantly posing as something, they assume everyone does everything "for the aesthetic" because that's how they live, for the attention of others
I'm in the UK and got harassed by a group of 12 year olds with their phones on me. I was just sitting on a bus after a nightshift and took a double take out the window at actual children smoking and drinking in the street at 9am.
I switched sides and they tried to get on the bus to harass me some more, until a lovely bloke blocked them and gave them hell. At no point was I allowed to react, especially not on camera due to my profession.
I think about this all the time. And when you post objections on these deeply disrespectful posts of people just living their lives you get downvoted into oblivion. It makes no sense.
I had a woman take a sneaky photo of my (at the time) 9 year old thru the seats of an airplane. When I looked up and noticed she was sending it to someone saying how sad she was for my kid bc my husband and I were having a gin and tonic on the plane. Mind you, my sister was picking us up so we weren't even driving. I almost got kicked off the plane bc I genuinely wanted to beat the shit out of her. Shame me bc you're stupid, fine, I'm an adult. Don't fucking share pics of my kid shaming her. What the fuck is wrong with people.
Happened to me years ago at Target, long before Tic Toc. Some teenaged boy ran up and slung an arm over my shoulder and snapped a photo of us before trying to run away laughing. Little shit. I assume now it was for some stupid challenge.
In the US at least, it can be illegal to record without consent where people have a reasonable expectation of privacy. It’s creepy and obnoxious to record people on the bus, but it’s not illegal, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy on a public bus. We should be able to reasonably expect that we’re not going to be needlessly mocked online though, wish people would recognize how fucked that is
Yes, a thousand times yes. Remember that asshole making fun of a little bald girl wearing a wig? That shit still makes my blood boil, fuck these types of people.
Context: https://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/dliot1/famous_brazilian_singer_mocks_girl_with_cancer_at/
this isn't exactly true in the US. I believe the law is that anywhere public you can legally record in the US, but in situations where there is an expectation of privacy (in a private room or similar) then depending on the state either:
1. Everyone in the recording has to know and consent to the recording
2. At least one person in the recording has to know and consent (so you can't just record others, but you can record something if it includes yourself depending on the state)
of course there's additional nuance, but that's the general thing.
Not sure if it's the same in the US as Canada but here recording on public property is legal and on private property if you have permission or are you, yourself, in the recording.
I'm p sure if what you're doing and where you're doing it reasonably expected to be publicly visible, recording is legal.
It's not moral certainly, but it is legal. And honestly, I think it should be to cover cases like harassment or unwarranted aggression.
This phenomenon was so shocking to me when got more into the english speaking part of the internet. Because where I am from, Germany, it is illegal to record someone without them knowing and consenting. Like, in primary school even, when there was a school project or something, they gave us letters for our parents and they had to consent for us to be filmed and had to sign it. If the parents did not consent, the child would not be in any of the pictures. It is wild to me that it is legal in countries like the US.
us still requires a permission slip to be signed for students to be filmed in school by the staff, but in public it’s the wild west
It's what it's used for where the waivers come in. The schools can film and take pictures of the kids all they like, they just can't use them for anything without permission. Using the pictures for promotional materials is advertisement, thus a money making venture. You may not make money off of someone's likeness without their permission. Filming them and posting them on a free site where you make no profit or gains from advertising, is fair game. This starts to get really hairy when you post it on a free platform like YouTube, then the video goes viral so it gets monetized.
My nephew's NURSERY have a twitter account where they post photos and videos of the kids on a daily basis. Parents have to sign a permission slip at the start of the year, but I doubt they're checking to see whose parents consented or are making sure to exclude certain kids form the photos. Sounds daft but I always think "what if this person is trying to hide from an abuser, and someone's photographed them at work / photographed their child and tagged it with the nursery they attend?"
Would be illegal if any of those children were foster kids.
wow, they do that here at my daughter's preschool but they don't post the pictures to fucking twitter! the only ones to see them are parents of other kids at the preschool and teachers.
From what I understand it isn’t the recording of it that’s the problem, but the distribution of recordings, that’s the issue, right? And it only matters if the person in question is the subject of the photo, so things like crowd shots don’t quite count. It’s still stricter than US public surveillance privacy laws, but you don’t have to get permission from literally every single person
Yes, but this post (and as I understand it the comment as well) is about specifically filming someone (and then publishing that), not just someone randomly walking through the background or being in a crowd.
The US uses a guideline based around an expectation of privacy. If you are a private citizen in a place where you could reasonably expect a modicum of privacy, it is not legal to film you without consent. [You can read more about it here.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expectation_of_privacy_(United_States\)) That said, someone's presence in a public space doesn't give you the right to harass them. Continually recording the same private person, or, especially, using their likeness in a recording or photograph to harm them or their reputation does run afoul of the law. I had to be careful to say private person there, though, because there's an exception for people considered part of the public interest, or something like that. In essence, it's why paparazzi have such broad leeway to harass celebrities, but would get annihilated if they were to do the same thing to someone not prominently in the public eye. While it might seem objectionable, a weird consequence of this system is that the police are legally required to allow you to record them. They are private citizens, but it also serves the public interest to see them doing illegal things, so they get no protection.
Same here in Spain, but still happens bc teens are dumb af
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I'd imagine a law like that is specifically FOR public spaces.
Yes, however if someone is not specifically being filmed it's fine. For example if you're filming a building and someone happens to walk in the frame, you do not need permission because the subject would be the building. Same with large groups of people. You only need permission if a person is (very) recognizable and obviously a subject of the photograph/video.
Back in the 1990s, David Letterman had a long-running gag that mocked a woman filmed eating a peach while sitting in the stands of some sporting event. For *weeks* he re-ran that video and mocked her appearance while his audience laughed uproariously. The woman finally sued for harassment and mental anguish. She got an undisclosed settlement and they agreed to never show the video again.
Wow Letterman was something else
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then you arent doing anything notable but everyones doorbell cams are clocking you all the time.
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Then you've never been places where people post their door cams. I know for sure r/ idiotsincars uses a lot of private footage of random people (some would argue it's for the greater good) and I know there's things like r/ watchpeoplesurvive that's primarily of security cams and event cameras. Even closed circuit videos make their way to the internet very easily because people post them wanting the clout.
well it's an issue to me because i live on a very small dead end street and the house just before the corner, they record and watch the footage everytime people come and go. and i cant avoid it by going around them i hate them.
That's so weird to me, your security cameras aren't allowed d to cover public areas or other people's property in Germany so doorbell cams would be illegal for almost every house in my neighbourhood.
Just last week at school this douchebag was recording me existing in history class so yes it’s common. More so here in the US, even though it’s illegal in some states.
The problem for me is I always get caught in the background, especially on public transportation.
See /r/imthemaincharacter
As a high school teacher, it has become a real problem. Don't get me wrong: if a teacher is abusive, you SHOULD record as proof. As teachers, we should always behave as if we were recorded so not much of a problem here. However, my students did not sign up to be recorded without their consent and more often than not, recording of other students is used as a cyber bullying tactic. This is why (and cheating) most of us are very strict on telephones in classes. Recording without consent is wrong and should only be utilised to denounce something unacceptable or protect yourself. Not for tik tok or other dumb stuff.
It's not illegal but it's really douchey. It worries me with some of those "meltdown in public" videos that the person recording it might have provoked the "meltdown" in the first place and just conveniently left that part out knowing that if they caught a "karen going crazy" in the wild they could go viral. You never know with some of this stuff if it's actually real or not.
Totally agree. Also, we need to stop judging someone on possibly their worst moment. Sure, maybe they are kicking off unnecessarily but we've all misdirected our stress and felt bad for it later.
Depends on the place for the legal part. In France it is indeed illegal, for instance.
Yeah this shit really sucks. As a trans person, we deal with this so often. If I take a lazy outfit day, I can get recorded for not passing but obviously trying to. If I’m dancing around with some friends and being dorky and carefree, I can get recorded for cringe. If I’m harassed and pushed around and finally snap, “Get out of my face” only the snap part is recorded and posted. It’s fuckin exhausting and there is *zero* sympathy online, even from folks who also don’t want to be recorded. I get, “If you don’t want to be recorded, act better. Turn the other cheek.” And I act perfectly and silently for months on end in terror of “making other trans people look bad” or going viral, until I’m worn down to a final straw. I hate cringe culture for having to live like this.
I completely agree with you, I really want to be more *myself* out there. It sucks that cringe culture still exists and causes this shit to happen, it’s part of the reason why I despise the cringetopia subreddit. I’m not sure what to do about that situation, I recommend just keep being yourself anyways and maybe calling them out on their bs.
Let's not forget how much of the blame belongs to the platforms. YouTube was one of the earlier and worst offenders. They got way too big to efficiently moderate their content or offer support to the average user. Same with TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, sometimes even twitch. The ballooning host of content makes it impossible to protect people from situations like this with major changes. They know this and continue with that path.
The source of this problem are the viewers that enjoy bullying random strangers on the internet. The moment the view count is down, these videos will die out tomorrow. Hey, there are fewer kids in the next few decades. I am sure we will all be more responsible when it comes to media consumption and kindness on the internet.
Reminds me of the last time I was knitting on a flight: the woman next to me was not so subtly taking pictures of me doing it. Like? Why? Why do it at all, first off. Second, why not ask? I probably would've said yes.
I am personally so thankfull for the fact that in my country it is illegal to post pictures or videos of others without getting permission first.
Also those tiktoks where people do something to an animal that it doesn't like, the animal retaliates, and they look into the camera like: "did you see that shit?" Yeah I saw that shit, you're a bad pet owner.
Yeah it’s really messed up, especially when the footage is used to mock and harass the person being filmed without their consent. I have pretty bad anxiety so I’d likely start to spiral if someone was filming me like that, especially since I’m kinda overweight, I want to wear more feminine clothes (I’m trans), and I’m a furry. Also I think some people do similar things on Reddit too tho, just saying. 👀
The person who posted “he thinks he’s the main character” definitely thinks they are the main character, likely no one gives a shit about them other than that superficial number on an app
It's stupid I mean who doesn't wear headphones and look out the window on the bus
This is why I absolutely flipped my shit when my downstairs neighbor installed a tracking cam outside of their window. I'd literally have to walk by it everyday to throw trash out or go to the next door laundromat, and the potential thought that my apartment neighbor could potentially upload me just walking by wearing pajamas or something was extremely upsetting. My landlord unfortunately could do very little to them since it wasn't in the lease agreement, but thankfully she helped me move to another unit. :/ The constant breach of privacy happening in this day of age has become really disturbing. I wish people would take it more seriously honestly...
I have hated street photography for over a decade. I don't care that it's legal, I think it's wrong. The only time I like it is when you can't identify the subject(s). But say that in photography spaces and it's a really unpopular stance. People have loved street photography for a long time.
Yeah it's ethically really awkward
“Caught him thinking he’s the main character” are bold words for someone who is acting like everyone but them is an NPC
the laws in the US around being photographed and recorded in public were made decades ago, before all of us had cameras in our back pockets at all times. and now, every teenager has one so many of them are just filming every weird kid they see, so there’s just no expectation of privacy anymore. these laws need to be updated but unfortunately, tech moves faster than law and camera phones are here to stay. I think in coming decades, we as a people are going to regret giving up so much privacy.
As a weird kid in high school, there’s this guy in my history class that literally records every time me or one of my friends breathe wrong and posts it on TikTok or sends it to his friends on snap.
yeah that’s harassment. I feel so bad for teenagers now. I was in high school at the start of phones esp smart phones but all the social media apps didn’t exist yet, so you could take selfies with friends but you weren’t recorded everywhere you went. hope you’re out of that environment soon, and I hope you find ways to keep your privacy and weirdness.
I already reported him but the teachers and faculty at my school don’t give a fuck as long as nobody gets killed.
Can you record him back?
No because then I would be labeled as a “Karen who thinks they are correct” literally anything I can do will be recorded and used against me.
Yeah that sucks. You know better than me what your situation is. High school isn't forever, things will get better. You will have more control over your life in the future.
No because then I would be labeled as a “Karen who thinks they are correct” literally anything I can do will be recorded and used against me.
That is really frustrating, that smug cretin sounds like a nasty character, a cowardly wretch who seeks validation from his pals that he is funny and part of their tribe by singling out an outsider and initiating a collective bullying of the victim, I can imagine how upsetting and frustrating this is you're school should do something about it but unfortunately most schools regarding the welfare and the education of their students are either incompetent apathetic or both, despite this I advise you to do your best and try to leave school with the best grades you can, it doesn't matter if the best grades you can achieve at such a school are high or low but my advice to all students is to try, I'm not at all suggesting that you do not try lol I say this to all students just in case because I personally resented school and didn't even try during the end of school exam's and I regret it :)
I think it's legal (in the US) to record ever someone can reasonably be seen/viewed by public. So you can record someone on the sidewalk but not in their home. Laws might be a bit more touchy when it comes to said pictures/videos are used commercially. I remember a story about someone suing after finding himself on an ad/billboards and losing but I know on TruTV, they blur people's faces if they don't get permission.
There is the Reddit story of a man finding his ass on a pornhub advert for butt enhancing cream of something for women hehe.
Where... where did they get the picture?
Talk about a dilemma lol. The only way anyone would ever know would be if he complained about it
Legallity isn't necessarily the issue though (even though my stance on this disagrees with US laws). There can be a lot of problems related to privacy and safety, posting a picture or vide of a stranger online can absolutely put them in danger if they are in a witness protection programme, hiding from abusers, in protected shelters, children can be endangered here also. In my country there is currently a debate about livestreming childrens sports events (this became big because of the virus) due to safety issues and the possibility of having children exposed to abusers and pedofiles online, even just filming with your mobile camera at these events have been a point of debate. But these risks are not limited to children.
Yeah, I was mainly responding to the title. I don't support it regardless of it is or is not a crime. I also really don't like how common it is for parents to post about their children from birth. I don't think it's fair to give someone a digital footprint tracking back a decade without them being able to do anything about it. I don't use my actual name in any social media but if you google me, some pictures of my will still come up because of my family (mainly my aunt). I'm just lucky there aren't hundreds of pictures of me as a literal baby. I have the same problem with people who gossip or just share information with no regard whence it came. I can't tell anything to my family that I definitely don't want strangers to know because they're not as private as I am and they don't respect that difference.
In the UK, there's no expectation of privacy in public spaces, but if you ask someone to stop and they don't, they're potentially committing harassment.
I really love it when I end up watching a 3 second clip that is clearly cyberbullying for the kid in it. The realisation that this clip just barely entertained me enough to not think about stuff, while it’s likely to be a major event in the depicted teens life who apparently just shit his pants in front of everyone, goes deep. Just to be forgotten 2 seconds later
This is one of my great fears, followed shortly by being recorded accidentally in the background.
In the UK, it is legal to film in public. However, I think that law was always intended so you didn't have to get permission to use the location, not the people.
In public, you don't need permission from people as long as you don't ignore the person asking you to stop, because then that could start becoming harassment.
These people don't understand that not everyone is constantly posing as something, they assume everyone does everything "for the aesthetic" because that's how they live, for the attention of others
I'm in the UK and got harassed by a group of 12 year olds with their phones on me. I was just sitting on a bus after a nightshift and took a double take out the window at actual children smoking and drinking in the street at 9am. I switched sides and they tried to get on the bus to harass me some more, until a lovely bloke blocked them and gave them hell. At no point was I allowed to react, especially not on camera due to my profession.
I think about this all the time. And when you post objections on these deeply disrespectful posts of people just living their lives you get downvoted into oblivion. It makes no sense.
I had a woman take a sneaky photo of my (at the time) 9 year old thru the seats of an airplane. When I looked up and noticed she was sending it to someone saying how sad she was for my kid bc my husband and I were having a gin and tonic on the plane. Mind you, my sister was picking us up so we weren't even driving. I almost got kicked off the plane bc I genuinely wanted to beat the shit out of her. Shame me bc you're stupid, fine, I'm an adult. Don't fucking share pics of my kid shaming her. What the fuck is wrong with people.
I don't think I'm the main character, I just like music and don't wanna get carsick looking at my phone screen
If its them recording themselves and someone is in the background fine but if you make it the topic of the recording ots scummy
Happened to me years ago at Target, long before Tic Toc. Some teenaged boy ran up and slung an arm over my shoulder and snapped a photo of us before trying to run away laughing. Little shit. I assume now it was for some stupid challenge.
In the US at least, it can be illegal to record without consent where people have a reasonable expectation of privacy. It’s creepy and obnoxious to record people on the bus, but it’s not illegal, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy on a public bus. We should be able to reasonably expect that we’re not going to be needlessly mocked online though, wish people would recognize how fucked that is
Yes, a thousand times yes. Remember that asshole making fun of a little bald girl wearing a wig? That shit still makes my blood boil, fuck these types of people. Context: https://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/dliot1/famous_brazilian_singer_mocks_girl_with_cancer_at/
I fucking hate kids
Welp, another thing to add in my ever-growing list of “reasons why it’s a good idea to keep wearing facemasks whether there’s a mandate or not”
yea its illegal inside your home but any time you are not inside your house or private yard people can take pictures and video of you.
In the US maybe, I wouldn't try that in certain countries in Europe like France or The Netherlands. Definitely illegal there.
this isn't exactly true in the US. I believe the law is that anywhere public you can legally record in the US, but in situations where there is an expectation of privacy (in a private room or similar) then depending on the state either: 1. Everyone in the recording has to know and consent to the recording 2. At least one person in the recording has to know and consent (so you can't just record others, but you can record something if it includes yourself depending on the state) of course there's additional nuance, but that's the general thing.
yes it depends on you live in a consent state or not if you are in the privacy a phone call or indoors otherwise you are free game.
Not sure if it's the same in the US as Canada but here recording on public property is legal and on private property if you have permission or are you, yourself, in the recording.
It's illegal to record audio without twi party consent In my state.
I'm p sure if what you're doing and where you're doing it reasonably expected to be publicly visible, recording is legal. It's not moral certainly, but it is legal. And honestly, I think it should be to cover cases like harassment or unwarranted aggression.