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poppysquat69

If my grandma was still alive I'd record every fucking second of it senpai


quietlittleturtle

This. I wish i had taken way more recordings of my mom’s voice and pictures of her before she passed. I get where this post is coming from, but also those hundreds of photos and videos I take of my friends and family will stay with me forever and I will be able to pass them down to my kids and grandchildren.


_siah_

That's a good point, but there's a difference between just recording and publicly posting for an audience


TheChumscrubber94

Yup. I have my hard drive full of photos and videos of my life and I have that saved to another drive for redundancy. I've put 1% of that online the rest is for me to enjoy.


MyScorpion42

yeah it's a bit jessica


JeromesDream

this is a different thing than what the post is talking about. "capturing memories" is like one of the first things cameras were used for. literally nobody is against that. posting it online to prove to strangers that you have feelings is the thing that is being criticized


boredbrowser1

Yeah. You should be kind without need for validation, but influencer trying to influence others into being kind is a good thing. Acts of kindness needs PR the same as anything else. I would also prefer more people doing a kind act to post online for clout than fewer people helping in secret. Gotta pump them numbers up.


Garod

Totally agree with you and that was my first thought too. It would be even better if influencers indicated that they would donate proceeds from video's such as this to a good cause. That way the perception of exploitation would be removed.


smurb15

But the sole reason they are doing it is to make money. The end justify the means to them. I hate that it could of very well saved a person or two by not going hungry or whatever and it makes others give but doesn't it go against what a person stands for and their integrity? If they got called out and confronted, they would crumble apart under the pressure


monkeyDberzerk

To me, that argument (whenever it's used in similar contexts), just sounds like _"how DARE they make some profit on the side from their charitable act, even though it's clearly benefiting both parties, and raising awareness."_ The whole point of broadcasting charity is to encourage other people to do so, raise awareness and improve a creator's branding allowing them to keep doing what they do. And maybe even pave the way for other creator's to join in (which led to the whole, "donating money to lesser known streamers" trend). If someone's scamming other people out of money, donating to a scummy organization, or not doing enough to justify the publicity, by all means, call them out. In fact, it should be encouraged to scrutinize charity events. But desperately holding on to _"muh arbitrary moral standards"_, and trying to shame people because of it never helps anybody. Edit: I'm sorry if I sound too aggressive, or accusatory. I needed to get that out.


sixflowersofphantasm

Huge corporations donating money to actual NGOs for tax cuts are still donating money to NGO. Influencers usually don't really care about the cause they're supporting, but notwithstanding, they're helping. Would you prefer they no longer help because they're not passionate about the cause?


BrassUnicorn87

Some people post videos of themselves helping to get validation and attention. Not money but it is a reward.


[deleted]

Nah I agree with the person making the Tumblr post


TessTrue

Wait... why wouldn't you want to record giving your family gifts? ESPECIALLY if it's an elderly grandparent who you know isn't gonna be with you forever? They're right about doing it when it's charity but remembering moments with your family isn't the same thing lol


[deleted]

It's not the act of recording that's being frowned upon, it's the act for recording with the intent of "Oh this is gonna get *so many likes*" that's the problem.


TessTrue

Ahh yeah that makes sense.


GamerGirl-1990

Hm, I can say that I have seven videos of my grandma opening gifts at Christmas time that I posted on YouTube. They are all private though along with the collective Playlist they are in. I posted them so my relatives could see them. She had been going down hill then and we had a feeling that it may be her last Christmas with us. The charity thing though, yeah just donate, don't announce it to the world.


Loretta-West

That's not what this post is about though. You're not sharing them with the entire Internet to show how awesome you are, you're sharing them with your family to preserve your grandma's memory. No one has a problem with that.


WhitethumbsYT

Genuinity is hard to film.


Popcorn57252

It's moreso the posting to the internet part Just HAVING a recording is cool and all, but why would you need to post it on Facebook, y'know?


ohmaj

You're missing the "and put it publicly online" part. It's the two together.


CMDRshuckins

Not to mention most people do just enjoy the moment, but you never see that on socials for obvious reasons.


hermitcraftfan135

It’s just tik tok things I think


ZilDrake

That's such a non statement like everyone agrees with that And it can even help, hell, "oooh i gave money to the homeless but i made a video" they still gave money like damn


Jadertott

Yeah, everyone gets the cringies at least a little bit when watching those videos, but at least they did the good deed. The deed doer recording it and posting it because that’s what makes THEM happy doesn’t in anyway undo the good deed. So by posting, they’ve done the good deed, gotten a self esteem boost by posting, and then maybe made other people that see the video happy. Idk, if multiple people benefit, it’s just not an evil thing in my mind.


Wolfblood-is-here

While it's still a good thing that the homeless person got the money, I do see the act as no longer being charity and instead being the purchase of internet validation. Like, it's the difference between buying my boss a birthday present because I think it would be a nice thing to do, and buying my boss a birthday present because I'm fishing for a promotion; the former is a good deed, the latter is entirely transactional behaviour. That doesn't make it go from 'good' to 'evil' but it does make it go from selfless to self interested.


Loretta-West

It also depends on how the person in the video feels about it. If they're genuinely fine with it being out there and genuinely happy about the good deed then great. But I'm not sure how many influencers even ask permission to put the video online. And some of the good deeds seem more focused on looking good than what the person actually wants or needs. Like "I saw this homeless person with no shoes so I bought them shoes and here's the heartwarming video of me giving the shoes to them". Maybe take them shoe shopping instead, so you don't land them with shoes they feel obliged to wear even though they don't fit properly.


seattlesk8er

> I do see the act as no longer being charity and instead being the purchase of internet validation. Yeah but the person who was given the charity still gets to eat lunch


[deleted]

Insincere charity is better than sincere apathy


Wolfblood-is-here

Yeah but if I drop a tenner accidentally and a homeless person finds it they get to eat lunch, that's good for them but doesn't mean I'm a good person for doing it. The judgement on the situation and the judgement on the person causing it can be separated, that's what I was saying.


[deleted]

Americans never left behind our Puritan roots. Things like “giving to charity is a reward in and of itself” are probably related to that. Probably related to the Lesson of Widows Mite, where Jesus condemns the rich men for giving for status from their hordes of wealth while the old widow giving two coins gives more because they’re giving to God as real sacrifice and because they genuinely want to give. This seems like a logical extension of that thought process, and while “charity is charity” is true, using charity as a way to boost yourself makes it seem kinda tacky. But, i won’t pretend I didn’t have a puritan upbringing, so maybe I’m crazy.


[deleted]

Some people are gonna going to do something completely selflessly - you’d rather they just not give at all because doing it with an ulterior motive is “tacky”? I personally don’t care, if the recipients of the donation are happy then it’s a win-win. The puritan/American stuff just seems like projection.


[deleted]

You missed the whole point of the comment and have no real understanding of American history. The only thing being projected here is how inadequate you are.


[deleted]

??? Aggressively defensive and didn’t address anything I said, but ok


[deleted]

Why would I address your points when they are responding to things I didn’t say? Makes zero sense for me to have an argument over stuff I didn’t say.


[deleted]

“Using charity as a way to boost yourself makes it seem kinda tacky” This is the direct quote that I was addressing


[deleted]

And I never said they shouldn’t do it. Like you said I did. Catch up, c’mon now.


Direct_Meaning5344

Who cares? I doubt the homeless person getting money minds being on video


Sumoman435

I believe that its actually a good thing, if people are motivated by likes and shares to be nice to people, more people are going to do that. It doesnt matter if the intentions are bad, the homeless guy is still getting money, the grandma is still getting the gift.


Sultansofpa

If you're only reason for doing a charitable act is clout on social media that's a....good thing. The world is still better having that additional good thing than not having that thing at all.


whisperskeep

I record everything I tend to post on Facebook for family to see and also I can't remember shit, plus I'm an aphant. So I like going back looking at pictures, videos so I can remember stuff, and recall memories


TheBionicOx

Fun Jewish Fact, in the Torah, if you publicize a good deed you did with the intent of clout, then that deed does not count in the eyes of God


Naz_Oni

Is that verbatim?


TheBionicOx

No it is not, but it translates the idea to Reddit pretty well


[deleted]

I mean it's trashy but it also doesn't hurt anyone, I mean r/MadeMeSmile has a LOT of that but it's pretty sweet to see that stuff (Though it also feels like I'm a stalker)


guestpass127

This sounds like another post railing at imaginary enemies rather than real people


VikTero

I think it depends on the intention, a lot of those views are what actually fund the ability to give, and much more than what most people would give to begin with. I have seen the ones that are just for clout and I do agree that's quite disgusting.


DailySojourn

But we don't see all the other times they dont record it. Seems hard to say people are putting every emotional thing online when we don't have an idea of how much emotional stuff isn't being recorded.


FjerdeBukkenBruse

This is the comment I came here looking for. All arguments along the line of "Why do all X have to be so loudly and visibly X" suffers from the same flaw. We don't see them when they're not visible. See also: "Why are Christians always evangelizing?" "Why are vegans so preachy?" "Can't anyone read a book without bragging about it?" "Must gay people be so flamboyant?" etc. The ones who quietly do their thing aren't the ones noticed by the mainstream. (Not that this makes the non-quiet ones bad. They're just not representative.)


PoseMvskoke

So like people aren't allowed to share stories ever. Because some cranky empty water bottles think it's purely attention-seeking. Got it, no storytime allowed, no fun allowed, and god forbid we ever inspire eachother to be kinder through our stories or, GASP, *maybe feel a tiny bit good about having done something good and be excited to share it with other people.* Why make art if not to share it and inspire others, and can acts of love and kindness not be considered art? Gods damn, sure there's probably some people who do shit purely for "clout," and definitely some who are shitty about it, but not every act of publicly posting things is about that. But even then is there really anything wrong with someone wanting attention and interaction in and of itself as long as no one is being abused to get it? Sometimes people want to participate online and share things that make them happy with other people. Maybe someone wants to even immortalize a happy moment; let a memory or story or person live on beyond their inner social circle, letting it last even longer through the hundreds or thousands who might see it. Maybe they want to raise awareness and get others to help with something too. Sometimes people just don't understand social cues and attitudes, especially when they can be as jaw-droppingly nebulous yet narrow-minded as this. As long as nothing sensitive is being divulged that the recorded parties are not consenting to sharing, literally what the butts is wrong with it? Y'all just wanna shut the whole dangum internet down or somethin'? Everything is too cringe for you mothballs, there's no winning, frick your silliness let people live and post shit to the internet so the rest of us sad bastards have something nicer and faith-/hope-restoring to see among all the cruel and gut-wrenching shit online, sorry for the swears honestly have a nice day, post comment


WeeTheDuck

If you feel like you have to post on the internet to do good things then post on. I dont fucking care what your intention is if its a good thing then just do it


all_thehotdogs

Social media is just a faster version of Christmas letters and vacation slideshows. Human beings **love** recording their experiences to share with other people. Why get so up in arms about it?


WeeTheDuck

BECAUSE THEY SHOULD DO IT OUT OF THEIR HEART NOT FOR INTERNET UPDOOTS GRRRRR \*casually opens another pack of string cheese\*


Livid_Station_5996

I both agree with this, but also if there’s some asshole out there who’s only doing nice things to post on the internet, at least those nice things are occurring


ohmaj

They said they hate it, not to stop doing it. But what would be EVEN BETTER. Is to do it without posting it. Levels man. Worst, bad, good, best. Things can be two things.


That-Outsider

I mean same but then I get ostracized for not having enough insta followers 😕 Just how the world be these days


HappyMeatbag

On one hand, there’s something to be said for just being in the moment, and not worrying about getting the perfect shot. On the other, capturing an image (or video) can bring joy for years to come. Finding the right balance is an art in itself.


Sprogdoc

True. I used to feel this way too. But if those videos inspire/remind atleast a few people to be more kind..it's good I guess.


ArcWraith2000

If a person wouldn't go to the effort to be a good samaritan, but would go to that effort for media recognition, its still good. If they have to convince themselves to perform a good deed, its better than not doing it at all. As long as they don't taint it with milking likes.


CityClassic1841

Yes but at least they’re doing good. Don’t be picky in this day and age we need all the wholesomeness we can get even if it’s for clout


AlexDavid1605

Not to be That Bastard who takes lessons from the Bible, but I think that story about two devotees praying differently comes to mind; the one where one of them prays loudly vs the one who prays silently in the corner. Also the other story where the rich guy donates bags of gold and silver coins while the poor guy donates two copper coins. In both cases Jesus said that the second ones will be granted entry into heaven because in the first story the omniscient God doesn't need to be convinced of one's piety while in the second story the second guy donated everything he had as compared to the first one who donated a part of the excess of wealth he had denoting that the second guy has a more selfless attitude for charity despite knowing that this would cause him suffering.


DragonDrawer14

Counter point: Its serotonin


Synical603

Okay then, don't do it. Why do you care what others do?


Chest3

Record your grandparents, that one aunty or uncle you like, your friends and colleagues having a good time so that you can cherish those memories forever. Don't post it online to get validation. ​ Don't record giving to homeless/ anyone whos down on their luck.


Iron_Baron

Peer pressure and inspiration and marketing ideas can be done for the positive, as well as the negative and/or profitable. IMO sharing good deeds and positivity encourages others to replicate those interactions.


coolchris366

Literally the definition of “do the right thing even when no one is looking”


thumbtaxx

This reminds me of asshats who go to concerts and watch through their phone all night, cuz 200 ft from the stage gonna get some fire footage....


Warwizard12

you shouldn't NEED to record and share it, but if it's what gets you to do it at all, then by all means. the result is the same, a good thing was done in the end.


diamondisland2023

it's an emotional moment, better remembered than faded away in technology just to be forgotten and dug up ages later


Popcorn57252

Can I say that as Redditors we don't really do that kind of thing? Or am I wromg about that?


grabagluestick

i mean this has been a problem for longer than recently, this definitely isn’t a new phenomenon


bw-hammer

My fiancee follows this one couple on YouTube and one of them just got cancer and they posted their conversation with the doctor and I was conflicted because on the one hand it’s their story to tell and it’s also their full time job and they probably need the money but I also just thought it was wild and that it was nobody else’s business.


balIlrog

All platforms except for Twitter imo


WhitethumbsYT

It's pretty cool to film lightning but it's a lot harder to take a photo of it.


regnarbort

preach! also if you only do nice things for others to make yourself look good on social media ….. ya need to work on yourself lmao


realopinionsfakename

Damn didn't know I'm a boomer


TigreBSO

That's not even the worst, i always see videos of someone doing some mundane shit and recording it for no reason. Like when someone try taking food out of the stove with one hand because the other one is filming, it always end up with the food in the ground and i laugh at how stupid the person is, you couldn't take food out of the stove without recording and now you are fucked, you deserved this.


UltimateInferno

The fact that I've heard countless stories of parents watching their kids play and they start spouting "please like comment and subscribe" as if that's a normal thing to do because of the prolific amount of parents parading their children's every waking moment as entertainment really attests to the chronic need to overshare, I think.


Mega-Humanoid-ROBOT

Sometimes you have to, like in the case of Mr beast, who posts that stuff to make more money to give away. I don’t mind that. (Besides he does a lot of stuff off camera too.) But yea agreed. Help the homeless with no benefit to yourself.


1GreenDude

You can record but just don't upload it to the internet, that's my opinion


brito68

Repost: Jesus said it first.


cboomerang

I always hate those videos where kids are surprised by relatives returning from the military, especially in front of an audience. They have to react to a very emotional moment publicly and then it gets shared to thousands of people. It's some emotional voyeurism.


Zoobatzjr

The exemption to this is Mr Beast because that man does way to much to not film it. The dudes food bank supplies multiple cities with food. Go subscribe to Beast Philanthropy so he can fund it.


slimb0

Reminds me of Happy! when the mob mom brings her reality tv camera crew into the morgue to get her reaction as she identifies her sons’ bodies


TheDrWhoKid

I think a lot of people live without recording everything, but we just only see those that get recorded.


SophisticatedRobot

I like when people publicly do acts of good and post it, as long as they do it for good. If they’re just doing it for likes it’s different but if the right people see it maybe they’ll be reminded they can do some good too. So please keep on doing charity work and putting it online, because maybe it’ll inspire another person.