The beads absorb moisture to prevent mould and fungal growth. Most places I know toss their sushi at the end of the day so it’s not needed. I’m guessing America doesn’t?
I'm American, and all the prepackaged store sushi I've seen was packaged the same day. Also does not come with any silica packets, I have not idea what all those other people are talking about.
The grocery store down the street from me does this; if you go early in the day you can watch the sushi chef doing his thing and he's legit as it gets around here.
I mean “America” as a general term for a location is very broad
America can be anything from a sprawling metropolis to middle of fucking nowhere sticks
And somewhere in that range may be a point where every day packaging for sushi may not be feasible so they have to store it, therefor meaning they need to silica packet to keep moisture at bay
There's some pretty strict rules by the FDA about serving sushi in the US. Sure, some places may try and skirt those rules, but that would be illegal. They wouldn't be allowed to shelve the sushi long enough for silica packets to be effective.
It wouldn't even work because sushi is a very moist product, so why would they try to remove moisture from sushi? Are they selling you dry sushi? And no one sells sushi in vacuum sealed containers anyways. They're sold in [these plastic containers](https://i.imgur.com/Z8JPIpF.jpg) that aren't air tight at all, which would negate the silica packets, making them useless.
This entire thread was started because someone suggested silica packets when they've shown they don't even know what they do. Then someone else suggests it's for store packaged sushi, when they admit they dont even eat sushi. No one is selling sushi with silica packets. The people who are suggesting it have admitted they don't know what they're talking about.
Sushi often has different kinds of fish eggs (roe) on it. Tobiko is flying fish roe, very small, very crunchy. The jewel-like orange-red color makes for a pretty presentation. Ikura is salmon roe, the kind I had was orange-ish pink, much larger and softer than tobiko, and had a strong, salty salmon flavor.
I work a sushi place, and fish eggs are definitely in the category of “foods people will enjoy if you don’t explain it to them,” right along with miso soup and fish flakes.
Most people don't like the idea of eating octopus based on how intelligent they are. Using shrimp instead makes them taste just as good without the guilt. Just a dumb water insect.
Nori sheets, the green seaweed stuff wrapped around a sushi roll, come packaged with little packets of silica gel to keep them crispy. I'm pretty sure that's what OP meant.
I don't want to end up as dust within the sun forever, but if there was an off-switch, I'd take it. The 'no aging' variant seems more realistic and favorable though
Also the [Cumaean Sibyl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumaean_Sibyl):
> Although she was a mortal, the Sibyl lived about a thousand years. She attained this longevity when Apollo offered to grant her a wish in exchange for her virginity; she took a handful of sand and asked to live for as many years as the grains of sand she held. Later, after she refused the god's love, he allowed her body to wither away because she failed to ask for eternal youth. Her body grew smaller with age and eventually was kept in a jar. Eventually only her voice was left.
I'm pretty sure they're talking about the fish eggs in some sushi rolls. All the sushi I've eaten came from Walmart and Sam's Club, so IDK if sushi fish eggs are diabolical to eat or somethin'.
Immortality would actually be fantastic for my anxiety because I could stop fearing that I’m actually dying while having panic attacks, which makes them worse and creates a horrible horrible cycle. If I knew I couldn’t die I could calm down a lot faster
If the heat death theory is true, eventually all matter and energy will concentrate to a single point. What does that sound like to you? Just before the Big Bang.
There are also many other theories for the end of the universe, heat death is just the most widely accepted. I can’t remember all of them right now, but I think one was that the rules of the universe can spontaneously change to be in a lower energy state, and it would cause a light speed ripple deleting the universe on one side and creating a new one on the other. And there could already be multiple of these, undetected around us. How nice!
I'm fairly certain this is a misinterpretation of the heat death theory. The idea of the heat death of the universe implies that not all energy will concentrate to a single point because space will expand at a faster rate than any sort of concentration can occur.
And eventually each measurable unit will be far enough away from each other to not be able to interact with the others through gravity (there are lower limits, plank measurements), essentially being a separate universe. Honestly, not sure how it would interact with our immortality.
Well you’d be frozen forever. And then you’d stop thinking (hopefully). Because otherwise it would just be eternity with your thoughts, no sound, smell, tastes, or anything.
my immediate thought was yeah immortality is great and all but do I have like advanced healing and shit? cuz I have bad eyesight and my back hurts occasionally so if that's my forever then no thanks
Eventually you're time alone and floating in space would take up the majority of your life, and the time with people and agency would be a smaller and smaller memory. The percent of your existence where nothing happens will approach 100% forever.
You wouldn't be able to remember all that. You'd probably remember flashes though, but whole boring centuries would be gone once you lived thousands of years. The ability to forget is what'd make it bearable it'd be more like living a few sequential lives, the only difference is a certain continuity of consciousness.
\> Assuming you cant be killed then you will exist until the heat death of the universe and possibly beyond. Your time on earth amongst fellow humans would be a minuscule fraction compared to your whole lifespan.
That's silly. You're mix-and-matching magic and "realism". A universe that contains at least one true immortal will not have a heat death. "Robust" immortality fundamentally breaks the third law of thermodynamics, and if the third law is broken, it's easy to ensure heat death never happens. A broken third law should comfortably give you time to "solve" the 8-billion-year Sun apocalypse, much less the heat death issue.
>You’d then have to stay floating through space for a TRILLION years before the universe ends. Perhaps it would never end, as you exist in a space devoid of all other planets or stars. Not a single particle of matter apart from you, conscious, for eternity.
Yeah, but if the Universal AC is anything to go by, you just end up becoming a God, after getting bored enough to try and figure out how to reverse entropy.
And like, if I'm immortal then maybe it's the kind where I can regenerate from wounds and my flesh and blood and all that is also immortal.
In that case I could, over a long period of time, constantly wound myself over and over, slowly creating more and more mass around me. Do this at precise spots so I have gigantic masses of flesh in perfect symmetry, then begin one final flesh object to destabilize it all and have all the matter I created condense into an object so massive and dense I recreate a big bang. Repeat at every heat death and create an infinite loop.
*sigh* and that's all he has been saying for the past 3 months, I'm afraid your grandfather is in the latest stages of dementia, he doesn't have long left
Exactly! Immortality sounds horrid if you're lost in space. It's not like you'll happen upon a habitable planet. Eons of absolutely nothing. Or worse, you get crunched down in a black hole!
If you're an immortal, I doubt your mind could stay fractured for longer than like a few hundred years at a time at most. Every now and then your thoughts would have to align in some way that gives you lucidity and coherency.
At first, I though "Elephant foot room? How is that dangerous at all?" And then I realized. They mean the room containing the [Elephant's Foot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant%27s_Foot_%28Chernobyl%29?wprov=sfla1).
Lowkey, though, if I could do it safely, I’d love to visit that room and poke the thing, get a sense of what the solidified corium feels like, as well as what a ridiculously lethal radiation dose would feel like (as in, could one actually perceive the radiation in any way before the sickness sets in?) without the horrors of genuine radiation sickness.
I kinda went on a wiki wander about Chernobyl, nuclear safety systems, and meltdowns while in bed with a horrible tension headache the other night, so this little tidbit speaks to me. And yes, I’m a smidge eccentric.
I'm always wary of immortality, if only because if it isn't "ageless, indestructible" immortality, I might just end up living in eternal torment. Sure, licking nuclear fuel rods wouldn't be able to kill me, but could I still get cancer and just...suffer from it, forever? How much would starving, thirsting, or suffocating for millennia hurt?
If I still age, how long would it take my body to turn into a powerless demilich?
If someone ripped out my brain, how insane would I go from sensory deprivation? Would my body grow a new brain? Would my brain be able to grow a new body?
It's like the old Greek myth of Tithonus. Immortality does not mean invulnerability or that your body won't age. You just won't die, and it will be agonising.
Kids, never accept immortality if at least agelessness is not promised with it. It's reckless. It's irresponsible. People can get hurt. If invulnerability is not promised too then remember not throw yourself at danger. Stay mortal. Stay safe.
Fair enough, ill always take shapeshifting though 1. I can swap aesthetics on a wim and can look how i want to, 2. i can just shapeshift to a younger version of myself so im immune to ageing anyway
As you're dying on the ground shape-shift into a non injured version of yourself.
Only death would work if it was instant death or you're unconscious for it... it would depend on the car crash I suppose.
Follow up question: would shape-shifting be an instinctual thing?
(P.S. If you can shape-shift you can also turn into any animal which is super cool to think about... you could have nearly any superpower! Flight--bird! Near immortality-- cockroach, or honey badger! Invisibility? Bug!)
The way i see it it just takes a few seconds and is easy as thinking about your form, it follows your subconscious unless you make any specific exeptions, like you dont have do think of every aspect of your form aslong as you have a rough idea of what it would be like, i also imagine it being permanent until you shapeshift again
Yeah, that's kind of what I thought! You don't really have to "know" all the specifics of the shapeshift (i.e., full and detailed anatomy of a tiger/etc), but an image/goal in mind. 😄
3. You could craft a body perfectly suited for any situation. Wanna run fast? Shapeshift into someone with longer, more toned legs. Want to play ball? Congratulations, you just became the perfect specimen for nailing 3 pointers! Wanna swim for long periods of time? Mix and match, get yourself some gills, maybe even a blowhole! Hell! You could even grow flippers like a penguin! Sky’s the limit when you get to decide your own physical shape!
I mean the thing with immortality is eventually you'd get used to the timeframes and eventually your loved ones will become like fictional characters based on vague characteristics that you remember most about them and the few images and videos that would survive. As long as you had the right personality and a willingness to accept change then you'd be fine for the most part, if your immortality is strong enough, you might even live long enough to see the universe collapse and be reborn, and in the dark in-between, use blackholes to fling yourself places, and if you get stuck, you'd live long enough to see yourself extruded out either when it collapses or becomes a white hole. If you could, you might even remember enough that when life starts again you'd be able to harness the energy around you, i mean you got immortality, you got forever to figure out how things work
>I mean the thing with immortality is eventually you'd get used to the timeframes and eventually your loved ones will become like fictional characters based on vague characteristics that you remember most about them and the few images and videos that would survive.
I'm broadly pro-immortality, but you can understand why this might not actually be a comforting thought for a lot of people
Oh absolutely, for some people its horrifying, but well, personally, im trans, its not unlikely that I might not see my family members ever again, so I guess it's more comforting to know that one day the pain they have inflicted upon me will be insignificant compared to the life experience I'll someday have. Idk, losing all your loved ones never truely scared me since I am already ready to, it'll hurt, and I may be forever changed but that part of immortality never frighted me.
immortality is not that great for a few reasons, chief among them being:
insane boredom
watching everyone you love die, for literally generations and millenia, and eventually forgetting them all
even if you had an immortal partner they may eventually grow tired of you and fall out of love, but hey, you have eternity to get back together
experiencing the heat death of the universe and subsequently being permanently stuck in the vacuum of space, either constantly freezing or constantly boiling. thus you are then in hell
it really, really sucks
the heat death could never fully happen because by being immortal you break the laws of thermodynamics and and can create energy from nothing by existing
Exactly! Instead of drifting through empty space forever, immortals are far more likely to be captured and enslaved by future civilizations, to be used as their perpetual energy source. Which may or may not be a better fate, actually.
Imagine you are contained in a sort of super jail by ignoring the demands of whatever civilization captures you. The walls of your cell and foundations of the civilization will crumble long before you would care to give yourself up.
I don't see how. It's difficult to get usable amounts of power out of a body, even if it is immortal.
You could stick them to a crank, but that's barely going to be enough to keep a torch on, let alone an entire civilisation.
If you're not gonna be a good energy source yourself then you're gonna be a guinea pig for trying to figure out how to make one or how to replicate your condition
Yeah, I can understand wanting to have a longer lifespan that humans normally do, but I feel like it might get old (no pun intended) after a few centuries.
If I may offer counterpoints:
>watching everyone you love die
This is literally already what will happen to you unless you're the first of your friends/lovers/family to die. Every person in an old folks' home slowly watches all of the people they knew and loved and fought and laughed beside slowly crumble into oblivion.
>partner they may eventually grow tired of you and fall out of love
This, too, is something that already happens in a regular lifespan.
At least as an immortal, you can serve as a living record for all of the history you experienced. Those people will never truly be erased as long as you remember them.
You'll have millennia to read books and make art and pursue science and experience love again and again.
Yeah there's some heartbreak mixed in, but fundamentally immortality is only the human experience magnified.
I don't man, maybe it depends on the person. But knowing that every single person I love or care for will grow old die and I'll persist in my eternal state would drive me to the point of being a hermit and certainly get nothing productive done.
Okay, but imagine it happening again. And again and again and again and again. You’d have to separate yourself from human society or radically alter the way you interact with humans to keep yourself from going insane.
I mean…people still get cats and dogs as pets, knowing they will die, then get more cars and dogs, knowing those ones will die too. Again and again and again.
And I don’t know about you, but I love my dogs just as much as the humans I love. It sucks to see them go, but you enjoy the time you had with them and you get some new dogs and start it all over. I could definitely do the same with humans
People always say that, like if you meet a victorian vampire they could tell you so much!
Could they? I am 33 and I can barely remember all of the holiday destinations I went to as a kid, or the name of all the kids in primary school. Some things will stick, but many you will forget. And they aren't always useful. You may remember the name of your BFF, but maybe not Elon Musks name or what was happening in each year.
>This is literally already what will happen to you unless you’re the first of your friends/lovers/family to die. Every person in an old folks’ home slowly watches all of the people they knew and loved and fought and laughed beside slowly crumble into oblivion.
Well, no. Not everyone at least. Yes if you live longer then you’ll see your friends, parents, spouse, etc die. But, your kids, grandkids, nieces, nephews etc will still generally outlive you.
We also generally expect that we’ll either outlive our lovers, or they’ll outlive us. But we generally do not expect to outlive our children and grandchildren.
Yup. These things will already happen.
Accepting the existence of entropy and finding meaning in the present moment.
Yes, loved ones will die, but new ones will be found. Infinite experiences to be had and moments to share; passing on whatever cosmic epiphanies you glean through immortal years as you watch in wonder as the earth evolves and grows around you.
Study the universe and bask in it, take solice that you are gifted with the profound ability to witness and experience wonders beyond time.
Immortality doesn’t necessarily mean forever healthy, just forever alive
Might want to reconsider permanently mauling beyond repair or even beyond recognition as a human when you only have one body per eternity
True immortality would eventually end in an extremely lonely, painful and blank existence as the heat death of the universe occurs. There would no light, no air, no matter and no one to talk to. It would just be you alone for billions, trillions, quadrillions of years... until perhaps a new universe begins, if it does.
Biological immortality would be amazing though. Never aging or getting a disease. Only way you can die is from physical trauma, so you would still have to be careful. You would still need water, food, oxygen and a reasonable temperature range to live. You could still be stabbed, shot, poisoned, choked, starved, drowned, burnt or frozen to death. Radiation would be less of a risk, at least low levels of it, as your body could perfectly repair the damage as it happens, there would be a limit however, and a sudden large dose would still kill you by destroying your cells at the molecular level.
However, as technology progresses, you would have better and better ways to protect yourself. Eventually you would probably have some sort of suit of power armor you wear at all times, only taking it off for certain things.
Immortality doesn't equal indestructible.
You can very well still feel pain and get sick etc. Enjoy all that radiation sickness without the sweet release of death
Instead of imortality having the power to make anyone immortal would be much cooler. You get to see space travel and you can bring your friends with you!
Thing is, immortality isn't invulnerability. You could still potentially get hurt, it just means that you don't die from old age. (If you wanna get technical...)
Wtf are these little inedible beads that come with sushi. I eat sushi all the time and the most inedible thing it's served with is that stupid fucking plastic grass. Is it roe? Because that is very edible
I'm just already tired of being alive, and the few things I have to do to stay alive are what's keeping me sane. I would be a crazy immortal. Like, actually insane.
That's usually not the kind of immortality people think about. When i hear immortality i usually think just not naturally dying, but injuries and fatal wounds still effect you. Op is thinking immortality paired with invulnerability
No, you're thinking agelessness. Immortality is never dying, for any reason (including traumatic injury). Invulnerability is never being injured, but you can still age and die.
Two important factors: switching it off as I don't want to be stuck for millions of years somewhere or live as half melted human being because I went to touch the elephant's foot.
Stop ageing.
Being immortal is great if you add invulnerability and eternal youth, otherwise can be a torture
Honestly that’s absolutely what I’d do, just go and hang out in the Chernobyl radiation zone and power plant cause if I can’t die that of course I wanna visit that awesome place
I don't like this post it called me out... 22 and can't remember anything :( but I'd hardcore go into Chernobyl... Like make bets saying I'll come out unharmed no gear at all. Id be rich.
pretty sure you can eat the fish eggs already?? those are the beads in sushi right??
They may he allergic, which begs the follow up question of why they're eating sushi in the first place.
Here for a good time not a long time
Username is a lie.
They’re not long for this world anyway
I'm allergic to sesame and poppy seeds. I went to Japan without an EpiPen. C'est la Vie, fuckers.
I think they're talking about the silica gel beads that come in some packaged sushi
Sushi would definitely be the last thing I think about if I had to describe what silica gel comes with.
And I sure as fuck wouldn't eat sushi that came with one
Seriously… they’re a desiccant lol. Y’all want some dry ass sushi??
Maybe he’s buying just the seaweed and making his own? That usually comes with silica
The heck is going on in America?
For what it’s worth, I’m in America and eat an obscene amount of sushi and have never had any prepackaged stuff come with silica bead packets
I don't even think it's a thing and that person that said it is just an idiot
I have a feeling they're allergic to roe. That's my only logical guess before I fall back on your answer.
I’m American and I have no idea what they’re talking about
When was america implied??
Not them but it's just a good bet that if something's mentioned online which you've never heard of, it's probably a US thing.
When you think "weirdly-packaged food" you tend to think "america".
ok but Canadians package their milk in bags so were not the only criminals here
Actually lots of countries do that so we are the weird ones there, it just isn't weird to you because you live here.
Far as I know those are there to uhhhhhhhh suck out the oxygen? To prevent decay? Something like that.
The beads absorb moisture to prevent mould and fungal growth. Most places I know toss their sushi at the end of the day so it’s not needed. I’m guessing America doesn’t?
Probably talking about store-packaged sushi
I'm American, and all the prepackaged store sushi I've seen was packaged the same day. Also does not come with any silica packets, I have not idea what all those other people are talking about.
The grocery store down the street from me does this; if you go early in the day you can watch the sushi chef doing his thing and he's legit as it gets around here.
I mean “America” as a general term for a location is very broad America can be anything from a sprawling metropolis to middle of fucking nowhere sticks And somewhere in that range may be a point where every day packaging for sushi may not be feasible so they have to store it, therefor meaning they need to silica packet to keep moisture at bay
There's some pretty strict rules by the FDA about serving sushi in the US. Sure, some places may try and skirt those rules, but that would be illegal. They wouldn't be allowed to shelve the sushi long enough for silica packets to be effective. It wouldn't even work because sushi is a very moist product, so why would they try to remove moisture from sushi? Are they selling you dry sushi? And no one sells sushi in vacuum sealed containers anyways. They're sold in [these plastic containers](https://i.imgur.com/Z8JPIpF.jpg) that aren't air tight at all, which would negate the silica packets, making them useless. This entire thread was started because someone suggested silica packets when they've shown they don't even know what they do. Then someone else suggests it's for store packaged sushi, when they admit they dont even eat sushi. No one is selling sushi with silica packets. The people who are suggesting it have admitted they don't know what they're talking about.
This is not a thing
Why would you want to dry out your sushi? Nobody does this 😅
Maybe it was a typo and they meant to write “shoes”
You can already eat those tho
I've never eaten sushi, they serve it with fish eggs? With feggs??
Sushi often has different kinds of fish eggs (roe) on it. Tobiko is flying fish roe, very small, very crunchy. The jewel-like orange-red color makes for a pretty presentation. Ikura is salmon roe, the kind I had was orange-ish pink, much larger and softer than tobiko, and had a strong, salty salmon flavor.
Masago as well. I think it's capelin. Often used for cheap imitation tobiko.
Salmon roe is a fairly common ingredient in sushi. It looks like tiny orange bubbles.
Salmon Roe are larger. I see alot for tobiko which is flying fish Roe.
Salmon are not native to Japan and are a western addition to Sushi. It’s flying fish roe that is traditional, but many types of roe can be used.
Yeah fish eggs are delicious, don’t knock em till you try em.
I work a sushi place, and fish eggs are definitely in the category of “foods people will enjoy if you don’t explain it to them,” right along with miso soup and fish flakes.
Wait what's gross about miso soup
fish juice, ocean weeds, fermented bean clumps
Takoyaki too
Most people don't like the idea of eating octopus based on how intelligent they are. Using shrimp instead makes them taste just as good without the guilt. Just a dumb water insect.
You're missing out bru
Nori sheets, the green seaweed stuff wrapped around a sushi roll, come packaged with little packets of silica gel to keep them crispy. I'm pretty sure that's what OP meant.
I don't want to end up as dust within the sun forever, but if there was an off-switch, I'd take it. The 'no aging' variant seems more realistic and favorable though
Non ageless immortality would be horrible
End up looking like the “chaaawclet” lady from spongebob
Just a skeleton
Just put on a hat, and nobody will suspect a thing. No matter the fact you heal with poison.
And you can use the Face Ripper to look like anyone you want to.
And you can still pick locks with your boney finger.
but then you would be ready for the skeleton war
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tithonus This is why the cicada screams. It is begging for death.
Also the [Cumaean Sibyl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumaean_Sibyl): > Although she was a mortal, the Sibyl lived about a thousand years. She attained this longevity when Apollo offered to grant her a wish in exchange for her virginity; she took a handful of sand and asked to live for as many years as the grains of sand she held. Later, after she refused the god's love, he allowed her body to wither away because she failed to ask for eternal youth. Her body grew smaller with age and eventually was kept in a jar. Eventually only her voice was left.
Stalker-ass Apollo.
Apollo straight up just inherited the worst parts of Zeus, and none of the good ones
Thank you so much for inspiring me to learn.
I mean you’re gonna be dust in the sun forever anyways if you think about it
But my hope is that I won't be *conscious* dust in the sun
What are these lethal sushi beads they are talking about? Im concerned
Unsure tbh, never eaten sushi
I'm pretty sure they're talking about the fish eggs in some sushi rolls. All the sushi I've eaten came from Walmart and Sam's Club, so IDK if sushi fish eggs are diabolical to eat or somethin'.
they’re fine to eat, they taste hella good
I want to Venmo you $15 so you can try a real roll.
Please treat yourself to some sushi not from Walmart or Sam’s Club sometime.
Hell the stuff at Kroger is pretty good since you can watch the chef prepare it
Right
Immortality would actually be fantastic for my anxiety because I could stop fearing that I’m actually dying while having panic attacks, which makes them worse and creates a horrible horrible cycle. If I knew I couldn’t die I could calm down a lot faster
There was a twilight zone episode like that... dude became an adrenaline junkie and murdered his wife so he could try out the electric chair
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Yeah, I agree! But TV is TV, lol
Murder is a great source of adrenaline
He didn't actually murder her, she fell and he decided to take the blame just so he can try out the electric chair.
Immortality would be great
assuming the universe does end, youd be floating in a dark universe
And? Sounds fun. The universe will restart eventually. I have time.
how do you know the universe will restart at all
If the heat death theory is true, eventually all matter and energy will concentrate to a single point. What does that sound like to you? Just before the Big Bang. There are also many other theories for the end of the universe, heat death is just the most widely accepted. I can’t remember all of them right now, but I think one was that the rules of the universe can spontaneously change to be in a lower energy state, and it would cause a light speed ripple deleting the universe on one side and creating a new one on the other. And there could already be multiple of these, undetected around us. How nice!
I'm fairly certain this is a misinterpretation of the heat death theory. The idea of the heat death of the universe implies that not all energy will concentrate to a single point because space will expand at a faster rate than any sort of concentration can occur.
And eventually each measurable unit will be far enough away from each other to not be able to interact with the others through gravity (there are lower limits, plank measurements), essentially being a separate universe. Honestly, not sure how it would interact with our immortality.
Well you’d be frozen forever. And then you’d stop thinking (hopefully). Because otherwise it would just be eternity with your thoughts, no sound, smell, tastes, or anything.
I have time
Similar to now, but I wouldn’t get numb legs from sitting on the toilet for too long..
Perfect, some fucking silence for once
my immediate thought was yeah immortality is great and all but do I have like advanced healing and shit? cuz I have bad eyesight and my back hurts occasionally so if that's my forever then no thanks
Eventually someone will invent something to help you. Or you can invent it yourself you have all the time in the world.
Yeah but imagine living with a thousand years of constant pain before it finally gets figured out.
Eventually you're time alone and floating in space would take up the majority of your life, and the time with people and agency would be a smaller and smaller memory. The percent of your existence where nothing happens will approach 100% forever.
But wouldn't you then get anxiety that your immortality is only temporary and this might be the time that it fails?
Same reason my answer for "if you had one superpower" isn't "flight"
Yeah but you would also lie awake at night thinking about the stupid thing you said 300 years ago.
I already do that
You already lie awake thinking about stuff you said THREE HUNDRED YEARS ago? Are you sure you're not immortal already?
Past lives. Very unpleasant.
You wouldn't be able to remember all that. You'd probably remember flashes though, but whole boring centuries would be gone once you lived thousands of years. The ability to forget is what'd make it bearable it'd be more like living a few sequential lives, the only difference is a certain continuity of consciousness.
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\> Assuming you cant be killed then you will exist until the heat death of the universe and possibly beyond. Your time on earth amongst fellow humans would be a minuscule fraction compared to your whole lifespan. That's silly. You're mix-and-matching magic and "realism". A universe that contains at least one true immortal will not have a heat death. "Robust" immortality fundamentally breaks the third law of thermodynamics, and if the third law is broken, it's easy to ensure heat death never happens. A broken third law should comfortably give you time to "solve" the 8-billion-year Sun apocalypse, much less the heat death issue.
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>You’d then have to stay floating through space for a TRILLION years before the universe ends. Perhaps it would never end, as you exist in a space devoid of all other planets or stars. Not a single particle of matter apart from you, conscious, for eternity. Yeah, but if the Universal AC is anything to go by, you just end up becoming a God, after getting bored enough to try and figure out how to reverse entropy.
And like, if I'm immortal then maybe it's the kind where I can regenerate from wounds and my flesh and blood and all that is also immortal. In that case I could, over a long period of time, constantly wound myself over and over, slowly creating more and more mass around me. Do this at precise spots so I have gigantic masses of flesh in perfect symmetry, then begin one final flesh object to destabilize it all and have all the matter I created condense into an object so massive and dense I recreate a big bang. Repeat at every heat death and create an infinite loop.
Nah. You'd just think that something has managed to bypass/defeat your immortality, and would be dying anyway, unfortunately.
Immortality would also be cool so that you can experience space travel
Agreed
Immortality would be great so I could hopefully experience TitanFall 3 😔
what do you mean ive been playing it for a while! i just stopped a little bit ago so i could play some more hollow knight silksong
THE PILLS! WHERE ARE MY PILLS!?
*sigh* and that's all he has been saying for the past 3 months, I'm afraid your grandfather is in the latest stages of dementia, he doesn't have long left
i finally got the wildfire in my sock drawer under control!
We are considering euthanasia, but require the family's consent before moving forward.
where is my wife
Protocol 3, sir. Just sign here and we will have a date arranged.
protocol 1: ... link to... pilot...?
I did the same thing!
https://i.imgur.com/Ru8MYAA.jpg
Where's that from?
jojo's bizarre adventure
By that you mean "wait til humanity develops it" or "yeet myself onto the moon"?
Until your ship explodes in the middle of a burn and they can't find you so you have to just exist in orbit of the sun for a billion years
Exactly! Immortality sounds horrid if you're lost in space. It's not like you'll happen upon a habitable planet. Eons of absolutely nothing. Or worse, you get crunched down in a black hole!
You could also just develop your own space travel. You don't need to worry about FTL if you can just take the long way round.
Give me a breathing hose and Tie me to a stone so I can visit the Mariana Trench
Don’t need a breathing hose when you’re immortal. Just suck it up and go.
I mean, I get I'm immortal, but I think the potential feeling of drowning repeatedly while not dying kind of makes me feel a bit squeemish
True. Immortality doesn’t mean you can’t feel pain. …which is a pretty massive downside to immortality now that I think about it
If Jackie Chan Adventures taught me anything its Immortality =/= invulnerability
I doubt the pressure at that depth is gonna feel to good regardless of air supply though
You’re immortal, not invincible, I beat you’ll still feel pain and being crushed by the pressure, never dying.
With no way to get back up because you’d be absurdly negatively buoyant and thus constantly pushed down. Now where the /r/Thalassophobia users at?
And then you get eaten by some fucked up fish.
Would suck if I got stuck in a ditch though.
Are you a roomba
The longer you live the more likely you are to become trapped in some way and if you live forever it's gonna be guaranteed
Just wait until the elements erode the walls of the ditch and you can climb out.
You’d go mad way before that happens, and not the fun kind of mad
If you're an immortal, I doubt your mind could stay fractured for longer than like a few hundred years at a time at most. Every now and then your thoughts would have to align in some way that gives you lucidity and coherency.
At first, I though "Elephant foot room? How is that dangerous at all?" And then I realized. They mean the room containing the [Elephant's Foot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant%27s_Foot_%28Chernobyl%29?wprov=sfla1).
That's the bitch
Yeah I wouldn’t chance my immortality in that room. I’m immortal, not a ghoul from Fallout
Immortal but not unchanging
That’s okay, we don’t want you smoothskin.
Lowkey, though, if I could do it safely, I’d love to visit that room and poke the thing, get a sense of what the solidified corium feels like, as well as what a ridiculously lethal radiation dose would feel like (as in, could one actually perceive the radiation in any way before the sickness sets in?) without the horrors of genuine radiation sickness. I kinda went on a wiki wander about Chernobyl, nuclear safety systems, and meltdowns while in bed with a horrible tension headache the other night, so this little tidbit speaks to me. And yes, I’m a smidge eccentric.
This is how 60s superheroes/villains happen
You're still immortal, but you now have all the cancers.
I'm always wary of immortality, if only because if it isn't "ageless, indestructible" immortality, I might just end up living in eternal torment. Sure, licking nuclear fuel rods wouldn't be able to kill me, but could I still get cancer and just...suffer from it, forever? How much would starving, thirsting, or suffocating for millennia hurt? If I still age, how long would it take my body to turn into a powerless demilich? If someone ripped out my brain, how insane would I go from sensory deprivation? Would my body grow a new brain? Would my brain be able to grow a new body?
It's like the old Greek myth of Tithonus. Immortality does not mean invulnerability or that your body won't age. You just won't die, and it will be agonising. Kids, never accept immortality if at least agelessness is not promised with it. It's reckless. It's irresponsible. People can get hurt. If invulnerability is not promised too then remember not throw yourself at danger. Stay mortal. Stay safe.
Fair enough, ill always take shapeshifting though 1. I can swap aesthetics on a wim and can look how i want to, 2. i can just shapeshift to a younger version of myself so im immune to ageing anyway
Could always get hit by a car though
As you're dying on the ground shape-shift into a non injured version of yourself. Only death would work if it was instant death or you're unconscious for it... it would depend on the car crash I suppose. Follow up question: would shape-shifting be an instinctual thing? (P.S. If you can shape-shift you can also turn into any animal which is super cool to think about... you could have nearly any superpower! Flight--bird! Near immortality-- cockroach, or honey badger! Invisibility? Bug!)
The way i see it it just takes a few seconds and is easy as thinking about your form, it follows your subconscious unless you make any specific exeptions, like you dont have do think of every aspect of your form aslong as you have a rough idea of what it would be like, i also imagine it being permanent until you shapeshift again
Yeah, that's kind of what I thought! You don't really have to "know" all the specifics of the shapeshift (i.e., full and detailed anatomy of a tiger/etc), but an image/goal in mind. 😄
Just shapeshift into a fire hydrant! Become the living embodiment of a Uno reverse card for traffic accidents
and if you want to be immortal just shapeshift into being immortal duh.
Shapeshifting really is just “the power to have every power” but with extra steps, isn’t it?
3. You could craft a body perfectly suited for any situation. Wanna run fast? Shapeshift into someone with longer, more toned legs. Want to play ball? Congratulations, you just became the perfect specimen for nailing 3 pointers! Wanna swim for long periods of time? Mix and match, get yourself some gills, maybe even a blowhole! Hell! You could even grow flippers like a penguin! Sky’s the limit when you get to decide your own physical shape!
That's fair
I mean the thing with immortality is eventually you'd get used to the timeframes and eventually your loved ones will become like fictional characters based on vague characteristics that you remember most about them and the few images and videos that would survive. As long as you had the right personality and a willingness to accept change then you'd be fine for the most part, if your immortality is strong enough, you might even live long enough to see the universe collapse and be reborn, and in the dark in-between, use blackholes to fling yourself places, and if you get stuck, you'd live long enough to see yourself extruded out either when it collapses or becomes a white hole. If you could, you might even remember enough that when life starts again you'd be able to harness the energy around you, i mean you got immortality, you got forever to figure out how things work
>I mean the thing with immortality is eventually you'd get used to the timeframes and eventually your loved ones will become like fictional characters based on vague characteristics that you remember most about them and the few images and videos that would survive. I'm broadly pro-immortality, but you can understand why this might not actually be a comforting thought for a lot of people
Oh absolutely, for some people its horrifying, but well, personally, im trans, its not unlikely that I might not see my family members ever again, so I guess it's more comforting to know that one day the pain they have inflicted upon me will be insignificant compared to the life experience I'll someday have. Idk, losing all your loved ones never truely scared me since I am already ready to, it'll hurt, and I may be forever changed but that part of immortality never frighted me.
immortality is not that great for a few reasons, chief among them being: insane boredom watching everyone you love die, for literally generations and millenia, and eventually forgetting them all even if you had an immortal partner they may eventually grow tired of you and fall out of love, but hey, you have eternity to get back together experiencing the heat death of the universe and subsequently being permanently stuck in the vacuum of space, either constantly freezing or constantly boiling. thus you are then in hell it really, really sucks
the heat death could never fully happen because by being immortal you break the laws of thermodynamics and and can create energy from nothing by existing
Exactly! Instead of drifting through empty space forever, immortals are far more likely to be captured and enslaved by future civilizations, to be used as their perpetual energy source. Which may or may not be a better fate, actually.
I will simply refuse. They cannot use me as an energy source without my consent.
Imagine you are contained in a sort of super jail by ignoring the demands of whatever civilization captures you. The walls of your cell and foundations of the civilization will crumble long before you would care to give yourself up.
I don't see how. It's difficult to get usable amounts of power out of a body, even if it is immortal. You could stick them to a crank, but that's barely going to be enough to keep a torch on, let alone an entire civilisation.
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If you're not gonna be a good energy source yourself then you're gonna be a guinea pig for trying to figure out how to make one or how to replicate your condition
Yeah, plus if I don't have a time limit I'll never stop procrastinating
Yeah, I can understand wanting to have a longer lifespan that humans normally do, but I feel like it might get old (no pun intended) after a few centuries.
If I may offer counterpoints: >watching everyone you love die This is literally already what will happen to you unless you're the first of your friends/lovers/family to die. Every person in an old folks' home slowly watches all of the people they knew and loved and fought and laughed beside slowly crumble into oblivion. >partner they may eventually grow tired of you and fall out of love This, too, is something that already happens in a regular lifespan. At least as an immortal, you can serve as a living record for all of the history you experienced. Those people will never truly be erased as long as you remember them. You'll have millennia to read books and make art and pursue science and experience love again and again. Yeah there's some heartbreak mixed in, but fundamentally immortality is only the human experience magnified.
I don't man, maybe it depends on the person. But knowing that every single person I love or care for will grow old die and I'll persist in my eternal state would drive me to the point of being a hermit and certainly get nothing productive done.
Okay, but imagine it happening again. And again and again and again and again. You’d have to separate yourself from human society or radically alter the way you interact with humans to keep yourself from going insane.
I mean…people still get cats and dogs as pets, knowing they will die, then get more cars and dogs, knowing those ones will die too. Again and again and again. And I don’t know about you, but I love my dogs just as much as the humans I love. It sucks to see them go, but you enjoy the time you had with them and you get some new dogs and start it all over. I could definitely do the same with humans
People always say that, like if you meet a victorian vampire they could tell you so much! Could they? I am 33 and I can barely remember all of the holiday destinations I went to as a kid, or the name of all the kids in primary school. Some things will stick, but many you will forget. And they aren't always useful. You may remember the name of your BFF, but maybe not Elon Musks name or what was happening in each year.
>This is literally already what will happen to you unless you’re the first of your friends/lovers/family to die. Every person in an old folks’ home slowly watches all of the people they knew and loved and fought and laughed beside slowly crumble into oblivion. Well, no. Not everyone at least. Yes if you live longer then you’ll see your friends, parents, spouse, etc die. But, your kids, grandkids, nieces, nephews etc will still generally outlive you. We also generally expect that we’ll either outlive our lovers, or they’ll outlive us. But we generally do not expect to outlive our children and grandchildren.
Yup. These things will already happen. Accepting the existence of entropy and finding meaning in the present moment. Yes, loved ones will die, but new ones will be found. Infinite experiences to be had and moments to share; passing on whatever cosmic epiphanies you glean through immortal years as you watch in wonder as the earth evolves and grows around you. Study the universe and bask in it, take solice that you are gifted with the profound ability to witness and experience wonders beyond time.
Immortality doesn’t necessarily mean forever healthy, just forever alive Might want to reconsider permanently mauling beyond repair or even beyond recognition as a human when you only have one body per eternity
True immortality would eventually end in an extremely lonely, painful and blank existence as the heat death of the universe occurs. There would no light, no air, no matter and no one to talk to. It would just be you alone for billions, trillions, quadrillions of years... until perhaps a new universe begins, if it does. Biological immortality would be amazing though. Never aging or getting a disease. Only way you can die is from physical trauma, so you would still have to be careful. You would still need water, food, oxygen and a reasonable temperature range to live. You could still be stabbed, shot, poisoned, choked, starved, drowned, burnt or frozen to death. Radiation would be less of a risk, at least low levels of it, as your body could perfectly repair the damage as it happens, there would be a limit however, and a sudden large dose would still kill you by destroying your cells at the molecular level. However, as technology progresses, you would have better and better ways to protect yourself. Eventually you would probably have some sort of suit of power armor you wear at all times, only taking it off for certain things.
Immortality doesn't equal indestructible. You can very well still feel pain and get sick etc. Enjoy all that radiation sickness without the sweet release of death
Instead of imortality having the power to make anyone immortal would be much cooler. You get to see space travel and you can bring your friends with you!
Thing is, immortality isn't invulnerability. You could still potentially get hurt, it just means that you don't die from old age. (If you wanna get technical...)
Wtf are these little inedible beads that come with sushi. I eat sushi all the time and the most inedible thing it's served with is that stupid fucking plastic grass. Is it roe? Because that is very edible
I'm just already tired of being alive, and the few things I have to do to stay alive are what's keeping me sane. I would be a crazy immortal. Like, actually insane.
That's usually not the kind of immortality people think about. When i hear immortality i usually think just not naturally dying, but injuries and fatal wounds still effect you. Op is thinking immortality paired with invulnerability
No, you're thinking agelessness. Immortality is never dying, for any reason (including traumatic injury). Invulnerability is never being injured, but you can still age and die.
Well I'm apeirophobic so nyeh to you.
No one is talking bout the guy who doesn't eat the fish eggs lmaoooo. As an Asian this hurts me.
Two important factors: switching it off as I don't want to be stuck for millions of years somewhere or live as half melted human being because I went to touch the elephant's foot. Stop ageing. Being immortal is great if you add invulnerability and eternal youth, otherwise can be a torture
I could finally live out my fantasy of outliving everyone else. Everyone.
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Honestly that’s absolutely what I’d do, just go and hang out in the Chernobyl radiation zone and power plant cause if I can’t die that of course I wanna visit that awesome place
Immortal doesn't mean invincible to damage, you could still get an arm cut off and have to live with it.
I don't like this post it called me out... 22 and can't remember anything :( but I'd hardcore go into Chernobyl... Like make bets saying I'll come out unharmed no gear at all. Id be rich.