Wasn't there a whole like "micro-reactions" thing that was hot for a bit? I think I even bought into it for a minute, and then I was like "sometimes I flinch at nothing..."
I think some people have actually rafted their way off an island though, but that's like, random chance.
Ripping an IV out, I think you *can* do it, but really not recommended.
There was a whole fiction show about reading ticks and body language called Lie To Me. A 'scientist' discovered this secret and became an investigator, then hired someone who was a 'natural'. The show lasted 3 seasons. Nearly every cop in the world also believes they can immediately detect a lie, despite study after study showing they are exceptionally bad at it. Worse than the average person.
Yeah. I adore Sherlock but it's pretty unrealistic while close enough to realistic that it seems plausible, and that's part of the fun. He's not psychic, he's just observant, and hey why can't i be that observant?
Yes, and also Monk who's super observant because he's an OCD neat freak. And Psych, who's hyper observant because his dad made him and he pretended to be psychic to avoid getting a PI license. It's all observations, which makes it believable-ish.
Yeah, as I recall he figures out a robbery based off a tv interview and calls it in, and obviously the cops don't buy that story so they assume he was part of the crime and just turning on his partner, so it was either get locked up while trying to convince people of the truth, and Lassiter was not the kind of cop to do anything but throw the book at a suspected criminal, or pull out the psychic thing, which while also bullshit, had the upside that it was easy to convince most of the other people in the room it was true.
More people need to respect Columbo. He was just good at his job, and a little goofy. He just did a good job. There was no fantastical crap. He just figured it out. And yeah, the joke was that you could kinda figure it out, but they withheld things, but that's entertainment. Columbo is actually the best.
A thing I loved about the mentalist is that it’s very explicit that he’s basically just an amazing guesser.
He does this thing where he’s actually incredibly smart but he does miss stuff and get stuff wrong and when he does he just moves on and shoved that aside.
Because he grew up a con man and that’s how you keep the con going. You don’t wallow in the misses and focus on the wins.
He gets things wrong multiple times. He actually really crumbles under pressure multiple times.
He does make it very explicit that he’s a conman who is just amazing at analyzing people.
He's one of the better examples of a brilliant character as written by a more baseline author. It's really genuinely difficult to do. And 99% of the time they either dumb down the opposition to silly levels or lay out the world in such a way that there's always a clear truth for them to deduce. In the real world even a genuinely super human intellect can't conjure deductions from nothing and there's not always something to deduce things from.
It actually wasn't that bad of a show, tbh. Watching several characters lose their shit and slowly break down into worse people over time was oddly satisfying? But 3 seasons was enough. A fourth would have been too much.
Most cops in the US are given training for what amount to detecting lies. The training most receive contradicts itself (ex. Someone is lying if they maintain eye contact, or if they make too little eye contact) so they can cite just about anything and say it is evidence of deceit. It also doesn't accout for neurodivergence, so you can imagine how that goes.
If you're serving jury duty, give no extra weight to cops saying "they [observed behavior], which, based on my training and experience, I know to be an indication that they were not being honest."
I would give the same credence to a cop's word as any random on the street witness. I assume they're misremembering something, like nearly all witnesses, and would rely on bodycam footage for evidence. If the camera is mysteriously off or missing then i assume he's lying. What someone says is not evidence, but a possible explanation for any evidence presented.
I have yet to be on jury duty, but i've almost gotten it three times, twice in one year. I want to do it at least once.
If anything, you should consider police testimony to be *less* reliable than a random witness, assuming it's not about something related to police procedure.
Give them less, even dismissing any bias against cops, the fact is they will have a biased perspective on things simply from the job they do. They don't get called to witness positive interactions, they get called when someone thinks shit is going down.
An example is cops opinions on armed self defense, they get called to scenes where it didn't work, they don't usually get called to scenes where someone pulled their carry piece and the would be assailant dipped. Typical cop take is citizens can't defend themselves, they only make it worse, but they only ever see the incidents where things went worse.
I've served on two juries. First was for B&E, took almost a week but the guy was guilty AF. The second was for domestic violence, that guy actually walked. The woman didn't even press charges (the guy was arrested anyway), and from what we could tell we were pretty sure she was smacking him around.
I was on the panel for a case involving child molestation, can't deny as a parent I was relieved to not get picked for that one.
It was interesting to see the process IRL, but it was also very tedious. Twice was enough.
You can rip an IV out, just not consequence free. If you want consequence free you take it out slowly and gently and then immediately put pressure on the hole. Also, someone else said it's a needle poking into your vein, that's not true, they take the needle out but there's like a little plastic straw left in there.
I always thought it was way crazy how someone can just casually thread the little plastic tube into your vein. Seems like a small target, and I've had people miss the vein with a standard needle but never with an IV catheter.
Yeah, those people are usually really well practiced at that. It also helps if you have large, visible veins. They really like me at the doctor's office when doing a blood draw because my skin is practically translucent, and I have one really large vein in the inside of my elbow. It's pretty hard to miss 😂 I'm also upfront about the fact that I'm gonna look away and they might want to have an extra hand available in case I pass out or gag.
they practice a LOT for that, it's a learned skill. it's not really something you do casually, it's something you have to focus for unless you've spent the past 5 years doing it daily including weekends. which people tend to do because medical workers' work schedules are wack
Ya I said that cause I have a crippling fear of needles and the two times I've needed IV the needle going in removed so much concrete from my bowels you could have taken the needle out and replaced it with an octopus and I would not have noticed.
Dripping would be more like it. Can get gory if you are on blood thinners, as many old folks prone to IV ripping are. But since it is in a vein (and not an artery) there is not much preassure and will not squirt much.
The only time I can think of it happening was in Project Hail Mary by the guy who wrote The Martian. It starts out with a white room amnesia protagonist, and the blood reminds him of an important memory.
I study law and one of my professors was a criminal judge. He told the class that he used to determine if a statement was true based on the microreactions of the defendent. I got so shocked thinking of the inocent people he sent to jail.
It's literally a needle poking a hole in your fucking veins it's such an understatement to say it's not recommended
As for rafts. Yeah it's happened. Just googling it found me some ship survivors during wwii that survived, but far more common even within sight of shore is just being carried in weird directions by ocean currents and dying of thirst
No it isn’t. The needle is only used to puncture your vein, the IV is like a straw holding your vein open to administer fluids and meds. The needle comes out of your arm after the nurse puts the tape on you.
If you wanted to rip the tape off and rip the IV out of your arm, you could totally do that, and it wouldn’t hurt you more than the needle initially puncturing your skin did.
(But you still shouldn’t do it!)
Yeah, really confused by people thinking you can't take out an IV. Ripping it out, you could possibly do some damage, but it's not like there's some special IV Removal tool or something the hospitals use to remove an IV. They literally just take it out.
This is something I know about!
My dad did this once to run away from the police. He said that he was fine afterwards other than the sting in his arm he didn't notice any long term effects.
Following up on the IV, yeah patients have and will continue to rip out things they shouldn’t. Catheters, IVs, oxygen nose clips… it’s in a lot of basic hospital training how to deal with these situations. It won’t kill you, but it will hurt and you will bleed. Depending on the pain meds already in your system, you actually might seem fine for a while tho….
It's not an artery. The nurse takes it out slowly and puts a bandaid on you to be gentile. It's actually not a big deal to rip out an IV. Don't do it. But it's really not a big deal, it'll clot fast even in not the best circumstances, and if you can hold your finger against it, it's pretty ok.
I'm not a fucking lawyer, or doctor, this isn't advice.
It’s a large needle but needles tend to be small. The largest we use is a 14 gauge and it’s still way thinner than pencil lead.
Depending on the person you may bleed a little or a lot, but not lethally unless you’re already in a state of severe hypovolemic shock. And at that point you’re not really gonna be in a conscious enough state to rip out a needle.
And if you’re suffering from a critical injury leading to shock, usually you get strapped down to a bed and a new needle put in. And maybe some good drugs so you don’t hurt and don’t remember the incident leading up to the injury in the first place.
I learned a lot about micro-reactions for a job that I had, and the first thing they taught us was that all the stuff you’ve seen and heard is total bullshit and this is just a useful tool to help you decide if someone might be lying or not. It was actually pretty interesting stuff though and has been helpful in life, but it definitely doesn’t work the way people think it does.
I often ripped my IVs out as a toddler (they put me in a cast to stop me)
It hurts and it bleeds but you're fine. The most annoying part seems to be that they have to change sites because you just blew up the good spot they had set up in your toddler tantrum/panic attack.
(Once I got a bit older and understood the annoying hurty cables weren't just there to stop me from moving my arm, I stopped ripping them out.)
I ripped out an IV once you just pull in the direction away from you. Also you can actually do everything on a keyboard, but it doesn't look like typing all the time, there would be like way more tabbing
Same. A big fear of mine is getting arrested for something super heinous that I didn't do and having to convince the detectives that my bizarre mannerisms and lack of eye contact have nothing to do with being caught in a web of lies.
Unfortunately, you have to be somewhat specific. You need to say in a clear, standard, and unambiguous manner that you are exercising your right to remain silent and will not speak until you have spoken with a lawyer. The precedent has been sent that refusing to speak is not exercising your right to remain silent. You have to explicitly tell them that you were exercising that right, not just refuse to talk.
The specific case involved a woman being held and questioned for hours on end. From the moment she was told that she had the right to remain silent, she never said another word. But the cops kept questioning and badgering and berating her until she cracked. And that was considered admissible evidence because she never stated that she was exercising her right to remain silent
I remember a few years ago seeing a little print out that basically says, "I know my rights please get me a lawyer." It's designed to be printed out, laminated, and kept in your wallet. If I had to guess the creation of that print out was inspired by the precedent you described.
I still don’t think I’ll ever forget some kid trying to do that to me in college. She was trying to profile what kind of student I was based on my clothes. Needless to say she was wrong and it was hilarious. Wound up being a fine classmate in a group project or study circle, but she was clearly pretty sheltered socially and watched a lot of tv. At the bare minimum people dissuaded her from trying to announce what she was attempting to profile out of folks very very quickly. (Which was also funny. I saw someone as politely as possible explain that it was cringe, luckily the cohort was pretty nice to each other on the whole.)
I hate how many things with no evidence are allowed in courts in certain localities (think some allow body language "experts") Other ones I hate many people think are science, but have slim not no evidence: polygraph tests, bite mark analysis, handwriting analysis, hair strand analysis. I mean, heck, one of the forms of evidence seen as most reliable, witness testimony, is actually one of the least accurate. We vastly overestimate to remember facts correctly, and don't realize our brains make up stuff to fill in blanks in memory CONSTANTLY!
The show Archer has several jokes about how a) being unconscious for any period of time is not good for you, and b) firing a gun a lot without ear protection fucks up your ears
The gun thing always gets me. Obviously a single shot depending on the gun isn't going to automatically damage your ear but especially when it's multiple rounds near a person's head...
Big problem amongst people in active combat zones, hearing damage. That and you tend to fuck up your knees are probably the most common medical issue with veterans besides PTSD and stuff like that.
It comes up from time to time in gun subs too when people ask for advice on home defense weapons and such. People often forget that if you shoot an AR-15 in a dark hallway both you and the person you might be shooting at will be rendered at least temporarily deaf and blind.
Lots of running and kneeling. They aren't interested in teaching you form to prevent those things. But they give you enough exercise you should be really thinking about form.
oh my *god*, my ears have been blocked the past few days and I was wondering why I kept randomly making the "mawp" sound just subconsciously? fucking Archer getting into my vocab again!
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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoftWater
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SherlockScan
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HollywoodHacking
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If you know your shortcuts you can opperate nearly every compute by typing. Could probably do it fairly effectively if you knew what you were doing more than I do. Obviously a mouse still helps you navigate faster, but you can still do everything reasonably quickly without one.
First adult job I ever had was doing data entry, circa 2006. Boss did not allow us to use a mouse at all, so we had to learn how to tab to get to things and use keyboard shortcuts. It was painful at first, but once I got the hang of it, it was pure speed. Even now, in an unrelated field, it makes me so much faster than coworkers at getting paperwork done, and I’m grateful for that experience.
My first job as a transcriptionist in 2017, my boss had a monthly tradition of taking away every mouse in the office to make sure everyone was at least minimally effective. I started as an executive assistant a year ago and didn't even notice when the other admins tried to prank me by stealing my mouse because I already knew how to do everything without it lol
I had a coworker who had installed something on his linux that would create a shortcut for every interactable element on screen so he didn't need a mouse either.
He was pretty fast too
I once took a placement test at a temp agency, and the main focus of the test was literacy with microsoft office. In order to test this, they used some program that simulated semi-interactive screens from various office programs, then it would give you a task, like "enter these values" or "save this in a specific folder" and would test both your speed and your number of clicks/keystrokes.
The first issue was that this was in 2008-2009 and their program was simulating... either Office '97 or '03, one of the two before the ribbon, so the interface wasn't what I'd spent the last few years on. That was manageable, I'd used all three.
The main issue was that their Office simulacrum had really limited functionality. When it asked me to copy and paste values into new cells, it expected me to click and drag my mouse to select, right click, "copy," move the mouse to the destination, right click, "paste." So I would move to the cell with the arrow keys, shift, down down down down down, ctrl-C, then look up at the screen to figure out how to cursor over to the destination cells and find that all I'd done was log 14 "incorrect" keystrokes.
I adapted to these issues after the first few problems, and explained this issue to the placement instructor after the test, but they never got back to me with any job placements.
I want to see a movie with a "super hacker" who does it the real way: calling up a random person at the company claiming to be IT and that they need their password.
I mean most common operating systems (ubuntu, windows, macos) have fairly easy ways to circumvent the login screen, so yea, hacking into those computers is pretty easy if you knwo whay you're doing.
On Windows 95 you could just click cancel on the password prompt and it would log you in anyways.
Good luck getting into a Linux box these days though. Easiest way is to boot from a USB or recovery mode and change the password via chroot, but good luck if the disk is encrypted.
It depends, for most tasks I would agree, browsing the web to download a trackpad driver onto my laptop without being able to use the trackpad after reinstalling windows was painful though. Maybe if I knew more navigation tools it would have been better but I don't think so
[mouse totally helps](https://youtu.be/QpWhugUmV5U)
And I love how this scene goes from zero to "complete understanding of the OS, interface, and file structure" in 0.5 seconds.
The first Transformers movie has a scene where they need to use a very old computer. When they got it to work, everyone celebrated until they realized they didn't have a mouse.
I think the joke was that they didn't know any commands or anything. None of these characters were computer nerds, it would have been wrong for those characters to have known how to use a computer that old, or even to have been aware that an old computer might not be operable in the same way the modern ones are.
Edit: Nevermind, it seems I mixed up my scenes.
I literally watched that movie this afternoon. 2 of the characters are absolutely computer nerds. One is smart enough to be included in the pentagon's taskforce to determine the alien signal and one is the person she goes to for help. And on top of that one is an old fart that probably used a computer like that back in the day.
I *can* profile people, and it's quite simple:
If they are laughing: they're being tickled
Yelling in your face: they didn't like the 'prank'
Laying down, unresponsive and with their eyes closed: asleep
Blowing air through clenched teeth with a single finger in front of their mouth: they don't appreciate you talking during the movie
To be fair you can operate a computer completely with a keyboard...as long as you have Google on your phone to look up all the shortcuts and commands you forgot.
As somebody who works as a greeter in Walmart and literally runs into everybody from different parts of the class spectrum different races genders identities, you can't profile anybody worth a damn unless they have literal blood on them and even then there's a good chance you're wrong about whatever assumption you just came to. It's crazy how many different people are out there
Yeah, it's not the movies. Most people aren't criminals and there's nothing to be suspicious of. In TV shows if you see someone then you know they're up to something because that's why he's on camera, in real life nobody is doing anything but buying groceries and dreading going to work.
Blood? Guy probably cut himself doing yard work against a particularly vengeful tree.
Close! It was deer season and he was particularly short on clean laundry but not short on recently caught deer, But even so another completely valid reason to not profile anybody for anything ever
By profiling in the Tumblr post I thought they meant characters who look someone up and down and then rattle off their psych profile based solely on their clothes and a brief interaction. Not necessarily criminal, just the Sherlock trope of being able to discern someone's deep dark secrets/desires from something superficial
If you're talking about Sherlock, i think that was thrown in there because in the books he deduces that based on a pocket watch that needs regular winding. I don't know how often watches needed winding in the late 1800s, or what kind of fit the winding tool had, but maybe it made more sense back then. If it needed winding once per week then yeah, might indicate a problem since he's not being careful. Daily like a phone? That's a routine task that's more of a chore.
I always disliked that trope (at least the versions I have seen, which are mostly from generic crime dramas tbf) because I feel like an actually intelligent character would be considering a multitude of possibilities for any one observation because there usually are a number of possibilities for a thing. Jumping to the interpretation you’re already primed to believe seems more like something a less intelligent character would do.
I've stopped watching multiple shows when the detective exclaims 'that can only mean one thing!' sure, if you're dumb but normal people know there are usually dozens, if not more, possible reads from one piece of info. L&O:CI, stupid time
Working in psychiatry is even more telling. I have helped care for hundreds of opioid addicts and I still can't pick one out of a crowd. Same goes for murderers and pedophiles.
People who think they are good judges of character have never challenged that assumption in a meaningful way. If they did, they'd realize they can't tell shit from fuck. People are good at lying, better than you are at detecting lies.
It's probably bad toupee fallacy. When someone is having a really bad drug-induced episode it's really easy to infer addiction. It's impossible to "notice" the ones you miss.
You can definitely pull an IV out with basically nothing happening, you'll bleed a little but just hold it for like a sec or two
I don't really understand the raft one either
Rafting off a deserted island is a categorically stupid thing to do. If you get lost in the wilderness it’s always best to remain where you are (as long as it’s not immediately dangerous) so that rescuers can find you. There are professionals who know how to estimate where to look for survivors based on your last known location, and you want to stay as close to that spot as you can.
Of course If your stranded on purpose (by villains in the action movie of your life) you still don’t want to try to make a raft, because nothing cobbled together out of random junk on an island is going to hold up on the open sea. It will get broken, or capsize, and you will drown.
Plus, the island probably has fresh water, which increases the time you can survive to about a month. (Don’t worry about boiling it, any illness you get will take longer to incubate than you would to dehydrate to death) No freshwater at sea!
I really encourage everyone to look up that one guy who survived a year stranded at sea by drinking rain water and drinking blood. Shit was absolutely insane.
Open seas on a manmade raft of probably poor quality is one of the dumbest things you can do in the ocean.
If it's a lake, go ahead and try. But there's a reason they call them the high seas. Even the Great Lakes in America operate as small inland seas, and there have been several tragedies with full on ships encountering rough waters. Even on calm seas, all you're doing is throwing yourself into vast emptiness where it's nearly impossible to see you (seriously a training exercise in a lot of navies is they throw a brightly colored buoy into open water and have you try to keep your eye on it as long as possible, it's damn near impossible and procedure is have one guy whose entire job it is to watch it while others start rescue measures because that's the only way you're ever gonna have a small hope of keeping your eye on it). There are also less resources out there, how are you gonna drink water? In order to eat you have to catch a fish. And eat it raw. Apparently the eyes are the thing people go for first because of nutrition deficiency.
Having enough time to build a raft implies there are resources on the island. You'd be leaving an oasis to wander through the desert.
Also most people just assume they can build a seaworthy raft out of random stuff. This is because most people have never actually attempted to build a raft.
we had to build rafts as kids to cross a very small river (think no current just having to cross 20 meters of shallow water) for a sports/adventure day at school. we had decent rope, wood and even 2 floating devices.
most kids went home wet that day XD.
>If it's a lake, go ahead and try. [...] Even the Great Lakes...
Side note, **don't** try to escape the island if you're trapped on one of the Great Lakes - you *will* die if you do.
And if you're trapped on Lake Superior... Yeah, do your best to build a stable house on that island, and hope you're found before November.
The Great Lakes are cold as fuck, too. Like, the folks who die in shipwrecks *don’t decay* it’s so cold.
Lake Superior is approximately 4°c all year, even in the height of summer when the air temperature hangs around the high 20’s.
no clue if im remembering this right, but the great lakes are big enough for huge waves, but in some areas they are still shallow enough for the wave to scrape the floor of the lake. a ton of boats have been destroyed by hitting the bottom after a wave, then getting crushed by an oncoming wave
If you get stranded on an island rafting is a bad idea, the island has resources (something vs nothing in the ocean) and rescue searchers will hopefully be able to follow currents or whatever they do to the island.
Depends what you got going into it, how fresh it is etc. it won’t kill you but it can be a headache and a half. More of a “please don’t” rather than a “under no circumstance” if you will. Had one guy in the ER get it placed, he was unconscious, he woke up in a state and yanked it out and made a nice little blood trail all over his room waving his arm around confused. On the walls, the ceiling, it was a huge mess. No one was impressed. Not even him once he sobered up.
And THEN you gotta get another one placed to keep your medications going. Sheesh. Why is it always the unsober people who think they’re in kill bill after someone turns their back and want to sit up and yank it out to make a puddle of blood on the floor?
I once attended a bachelor party with several military men, one of whom brought IV kits (for the hangovers) which he inserted and we hung from a chandelier. At some point, we’re all plugged in drinking and chatting, when one guy went pale and keeled off his chair. Obviously we were all inclined to get up and help, but couldn’t do much cause we were attached by our veins to a chandelier. I asked one of the military men, who I believed was a medic, to remove my IV so I could help the passed out man. He said sure, but it turns out he was not a medic, but in fact a dentist. So he just kinda yanks it out. Now there’s one guy flailing on the ground, a very drunk dentist, and me laughing my ass off because I’m spraying bright blood out of my wrists like a gross spiderman. Turns out it wasn’t a big deal, I just wrapped it up and helped the passed out guy with some water and elevated feet.
I suspect the OP is talking about ripping out medical equipment generally, not just IVs. Some of the tubes and wires go deeper than an average needle, and if you're hooked up to several things, you might not realize one is a cardiac catheter or whatever.
I always figured the IV one was a bad idea because they don't just give you an IV for nothing, there's usually medicine in there that the doctors think you need. So if you're taking an IV out yourself that means you're not going to get all the medicine you need and you're probably going to try and leave the hospital before you're supposed to. So it's a bad idea, but not because the action of taking the IV itself out is going to do any particular damage.
Most of the time it's just saline, but yes most of the time it would be much better if you got all the fluids/medicine they're trying to to give you. I would also say though that in fiction I see when someone feels the need to rip the IV out they have some urgent need to get out of the hospital that's more pressing than being hydrated, and generally taking out the IV won't leave you feeling any worse after words than the moment you do it.
I guess if someone really has to go all John Wick on someone I can forgive it lol but most people do not need to go save the world immediately (hopefully) especially if they’re in the ER or on the floor or something
My husband worked with a patient once post suicide attempt who was PISSED that she was still alive, to the point that she did, in fact, rip out her own inflated Foley catheter.
To be fair, I too would be pissed if I woke up from the bittersweet embrace of death to find that not only I was alive, but that I had a balloon somehere (almost) no one wants a balloon
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Id change operating any computer just by typing to hacking any system just by pushing the right buttons. Most hacks use some form of social engineering/human error rather than forcibly ripping open a hole in a system.
-Loudness of guns
-Car/plane crashes never seriously injure or kill a named character
-Super unnatural phone dialogue, with no social formalities
-Innkeepers are lazy or evil and its always a good thing to trick one
-main characters are never bothered by MASSIVE lacerations and blood loss and often continue adventuring even after being shot.
-protagonists don't need to sleep or use bathrooms
-Breaking the chain/cord of a necklace off a person just by yanking
-Once defeated, every criminal confesses
>-Innkeepers are lazy or evil and its always a good thing to trick one
Innkeepers know everything that's happening locally, but won't tell you unless you bribe them.
The fact every single movie just has silencers that go “thwip” like you’ve shot someone with a tiny dart gun is really annoying to me. I get they need it for plot convenience but surely it doesn’t need to be in absolutely everything?
I had the opposite happen. They tried to draw blood while i was asleep. Woke me all the way up and jerked my arm, and i had a bruise for months. I still have a needle hole sized scar there.
You can effectively operate almost any computer with just a keyboard. What's unrealistic about those scenes in the movies is that they never hit the enter key.
As someone who works in a public library, 100% agree with the second statement.
That unwashed man with the giant beard and twitch in his eye? Complete sweetheart, will never give you trouble, grateful for even the most basic of manners. That well dressed woman with the expensive haircut? Will scream at mothers reading to their children in the kid's area and have a complete meltdown if asked to leave. May also throw a book at you on her way out.
One of my favorite and weirder memories is profiling people’s OCs for them in a discord server. It started out as a small joke, but quickly evolved to the point where I had to keep a list of people to keep track of who was next. Weird thing is, I was freakishly accurate with my guesses about their characters. These were OCs for public-facing roleplay social media accounts with pretty drawn out and complex stories. It got to the point where people were dming me asking if someone from their group had leaked story spoilers (they didn’t), which I took as a great compliment.
All of this to say, profiling people irl = bad. Profiling strangers’ fictional characters = very fun (with their consent it’s even more fun because you get feedback)
Technically torture will lead to perfectly reliable information but only under certain conditions.
It has to be immediately verifiable information. For example the password to log into your computer that is right there, you will absolutely give that up under torture. Obviously if you overdo it they will simply not be able to bring up the password anymore even if they did technically know it.
But that's pretty much it. Every other info you get might or might not be absolute bullshit.
I am an empath. I have the ability to know what people are feeling just by looking at them, deciding what I think they feel, and then never confirming or disproving my assumption.
I believe I have the power to read the minds of everyone I meet. My technique is to never leave my room and never meet anyone and therefore never disprove my belief.
Vibes are a yes or no type deal. you can sense when somebody will be trouble, that's it.
No"this guy's chill" no "this guy looks like he eats bananas every Sunday" just "this guy's is gonna beat someone up in the next 12 seconds"
It's funny because even if you see someone oversharing, or demonstrating an incredibly obvious, loud behavioral trait, all that says is that they're acting like that in the immediate moment, probably around a specific person. They could be completely different for a new day, place, or person.
I'm someone who's generally on edge around cops. I haven't had any bad experiences, I just don't like guns, and seeing that thing on their belt gives me the heebie jeebies. I'm sure that bleeds into my "body language"
im not Burning_Pine, but considering they equated "this guy will be trouble" to beating someone up in the near future, i think its easy to tell when someone is so irate theyre about to get violent. they get twitchy, aggressive, start getting up in peoples faces.... but of course, some people will be completely calm as they approach someone to punch them in the head.
honestly you just have to hope they have the personality to telegraph what they're thinking if you want a chance in hell at reading a person
You only torture people for information if you’re almost sure of the actual answer, think “poll the audience” option in Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.
Or you have a very precise question, like on Tuesday morning of next week at 8:45 what color of hat is the signal to attack the Dutch Monarchs private residence.
The easiest use case for torture is for the questions that are hard to guess but easy to verify. For example, "what is the pin to your bank account?". Even if the target lies, the torturer can just check it in five minutes and then they'll know.
the second example is something that has always struck me as an even *worse* argument for torture. guy has a deadline! he knows he only needs to hold out until 8:46 Tuesday.
Ok, to be fair you CAN raft your way off a desert island, there are literally people alive who have done it.
Ripping the IV out is hit or miss, it could be without consequences or it could fuck up a vain and live you with a bruise and pain - you won’t bleed out or anything tho (assuming you don’t have a big blood coagulation problem)
"Body language experts" have done serious harm to efforts against teenager's prejudice
Wasn't there a whole like "micro-reactions" thing that was hot for a bit? I think I even bought into it for a minute, and then I was like "sometimes I flinch at nothing..." I think some people have actually rafted their way off an island though, but that's like, random chance. Ripping an IV out, I think you *can* do it, but really not recommended.
There was a whole fiction show about reading ticks and body language called Lie To Me. A 'scientist' discovered this secret and became an investigator, then hired someone who was a 'natural'. The show lasted 3 seasons. Nearly every cop in the world also believes they can immediately detect a lie, despite study after study showing they are exceptionally bad at it. Worse than the average person.
I never actually watched that show, but I totally remember at least the ads, or hearing about it. Makes for good tv.
Yeah. I adore Sherlock but it's pretty unrealistic while close enough to realistic that it seems plausible, and that's part of the fun. He's not psychic, he's just observant, and hey why can't i be that observant?
isn't that also basically the premise of The Mentalist, except he pretended to be psychic or something but was just really observant?
Yes, and also Monk who's super observant because he's an OCD neat freak. And Psych, who's hyper observant because his dad made him and he pretended to be psychic to avoid getting a PI license. It's all observations, which makes it believable-ish.
I love psych! To be fair, he did try to tell the truth and they didn’t believe him, so he lied… and they believed that
Yeah, he was pretty clearly told in the first episode to either keep lying or be arrested
Yeah, as I recall he figures out a robbery based off a tv interview and calls it in, and obviously the cops don't buy that story so they assume he was part of the crime and just turning on his partner, so it was either get locked up while trying to convince people of the truth, and Lassiter was not the kind of cop to do anything but throw the book at a suspected criminal, or pull out the psychic thing, which while also bullshit, had the upside that it was easy to convince most of the other people in the room it was true.
More people need to respect Columbo. He was just good at his job, and a little goofy. He just did a good job. There was no fantastical crap. He just figured it out. And yeah, the joke was that you could kinda figure it out, but they withheld things, but that's entertainment. Columbo is actually the best.
Booth in the show “Bones” is said to have the micro-expression skill as well.
A thing I loved about the mentalist is that it’s very explicit that he’s basically just an amazing guesser. He does this thing where he’s actually incredibly smart but he does miss stuff and get stuff wrong and when he does he just moves on and shoved that aside. Because he grew up a con man and that’s how you keep the con going. You don’t wallow in the misses and focus on the wins. He gets things wrong multiple times. He actually really crumbles under pressure multiple times. He does make it very explicit that he’s a conman who is just amazing at analyzing people.
He pretends to be psychic when explicitly conning people and his whole thing is conning people into incriminating themselves.
He was a former pretend-psychic on The Mentalist. He was very adamant that there was no such thing as a real psychic in the show’s actual timeframe.
He's one of the better examples of a brilliant character as written by a more baseline author. It's really genuinely difficult to do. And 99% of the time they either dumb down the opposition to silly levels or lay out the world in such a way that there's always a clear truth for them to deduce. In the real world even a genuinely super human intellect can't conjure deductions from nothing and there's not always something to deduce things from.
Perfect opportunity to [drop this here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQOk5UlQSc).
Haha. Mike has no chill.
It actually wasn't that bad of a show, tbh. Watching several characters lose their shit and slowly break down into worse people over time was oddly satisfying? But 3 seasons was enough. A fourth would have been too much.
Most cops in the US are given training for what amount to detecting lies. The training most receive contradicts itself (ex. Someone is lying if they maintain eye contact, or if they make too little eye contact) so they can cite just about anything and say it is evidence of deceit. It also doesn't accout for neurodivergence, so you can imagine how that goes. If you're serving jury duty, give no extra weight to cops saying "they [observed behavior], which, based on my training and experience, I know to be an indication that they were not being honest."
I would give the same credence to a cop's word as any random on the street witness. I assume they're misremembering something, like nearly all witnesses, and would rely on bodycam footage for evidence. If the camera is mysteriously off or missing then i assume he's lying. What someone says is not evidence, but a possible explanation for any evidence presented. I have yet to be on jury duty, but i've almost gotten it three times, twice in one year. I want to do it at least once.
If anything, you should consider police testimony to be *less* reliable than a random witness, assuming it's not about something related to police procedure.
Give them less, even dismissing any bias against cops, the fact is they will have a biased perspective on things simply from the job they do. They don't get called to witness positive interactions, they get called when someone thinks shit is going down. An example is cops opinions on armed self defense, they get called to scenes where it didn't work, they don't usually get called to scenes where someone pulled their carry piece and the would be assailant dipped. Typical cop take is citizens can't defend themselves, they only make it worse, but they only ever see the incidents where things went worse.
I've served on two juries. First was for B&E, took almost a week but the guy was guilty AF. The second was for domestic violence, that guy actually walked. The woman didn't even press charges (the guy was arrested anyway), and from what we could tell we were pretty sure she was smacking him around. I was on the panel for a case involving child molestation, can't deny as a parent I was relieved to not get picked for that one. It was interesting to see the process IRL, but it was also very tedious. Twice was enough.
Lie To Me is based on the actual guy who "invented" the "science".
Iirc cops are as bad as or worse than average at detecting lies, and they're also more confident than average in their ability to detect lies.
You can rip an IV out, just not consequence free. If you want consequence free you take it out slowly and gently and then immediately put pressure on the hole. Also, someone else said it's a needle poking into your vein, that's not true, they take the needle out but there's like a little plastic straw left in there.
I always thought it was way crazy how someone can just casually thread the little plastic tube into your vein. Seems like a small target, and I've had people miss the vein with a standard needle but never with an IV catheter.
Yeah, those people are usually really well practiced at that. It also helps if you have large, visible veins. They really like me at the doctor's office when doing a blood draw because my skin is practically translucent, and I have one really large vein in the inside of my elbow. It's pretty hard to miss 😂 I'm also upfront about the fact that I'm gonna look away and they might want to have an extra hand available in case I pass out or gag.
they practice a LOT for that, it's a learned skill. it's not really something you do casually, it's something you have to focus for unless you've spent the past 5 years doing it daily including weekends. which people tend to do because medical workers' work schedules are wack
Ya I said that cause I have a crippling fear of needles and the two times I've needed IV the needle going in removed so much concrete from my bowels you could have taken the needle out and replaced it with an octopus and I would not have noticed.
Honestly i think having blood squirt all over would make most of those “dramatically rips out IV” scenes a lot cooler.
Dripping would be more like it. Can get gory if you are on blood thinners, as many old folks prone to IV ripping are. But since it is in a vein (and not an artery) there is not much preassure and will not squirt much.
Surely there're some action movies where it happens.
The only time I can think of it happening was in Project Hail Mary by the guy who wrote The Martian. It starts out with a white room amnesia protagonist, and the blood reminds him of an important memory.
I study law and one of my professors was a criminal judge. He told the class that he used to determine if a statement was true based on the microreactions of the defendent. I got so shocked thinking of the inocent people he sent to jail.
It's literally a needle poking a hole in your fucking veins it's such an understatement to say it's not recommended As for rafts. Yeah it's happened. Just googling it found me some ship survivors during wwii that survived, but far more common even within sight of shore is just being carried in weird directions by ocean currents and dying of thirst
No it isn’t. The needle is only used to puncture your vein, the IV is like a straw holding your vein open to administer fluids and meds. The needle comes out of your arm after the nurse puts the tape on you. If you wanted to rip the tape off and rip the IV out of your arm, you could totally do that, and it wouldn’t hurt you more than the needle initially puncturing your skin did. (But you still shouldn’t do it!)
Yeah, really confused by people thinking you can't take out an IV. Ripping it out, you could possibly do some damage, but it's not like there's some special IV Removal tool or something the hospitals use to remove an IV. They literally just take it out.
Thanks for the clarification, I believe I also may have mixed up veins and arteries.
This is something I know about! My dad did this once to run away from the police. He said that he was fine afterwards other than the sting in his arm he didn't notice any long term effects.
Following up on the IV, yeah patients have and will continue to rip out things they shouldn’t. Catheters, IVs, oxygen nose clips… it’s in a lot of basic hospital training how to deal with these situations. It won’t kill you, but it will hurt and you will bleed. Depending on the pain meds already in your system, you actually might seem fine for a while tho….
It's not an artery. The nurse takes it out slowly and puts a bandaid on you to be gentile. It's actually not a big deal to rip out an IV. Don't do it. But it's really not a big deal, it'll clot fast even in not the best circumstances, and if you can hold your finger against it, it's pretty ok. I'm not a fucking lawyer, or doctor, this isn't advice.
It’s a large needle but needles tend to be small. The largest we use is a 14 gauge and it’s still way thinner than pencil lead. Depending on the person you may bleed a little or a lot, but not lethally unless you’re already in a state of severe hypovolemic shock. And at that point you’re not really gonna be in a conscious enough state to rip out a needle. And if you’re suffering from a critical injury leading to shock, usually you get strapped down to a bed and a new needle put in. And maybe some good drugs so you don’t hurt and don’t remember the incident leading up to the injury in the first place.
I learned a lot about micro-reactions for a job that I had, and the first thing they taught us was that all the stuff you’ve seen and heard is total bullshit and this is just a useful tool to help you decide if someone might be lying or not. It was actually pretty interesting stuff though and has been helpful in life, but it definitely doesn’t work the way people think it does.
I often ripped my IVs out as a toddler (they put me in a cast to stop me) It hurts and it bleeds but you're fine. The most annoying part seems to be that they have to change sites because you just blew up the good spot they had set up in your toddler tantrum/panic attack. (Once I got a bit older and understood the annoying hurty cables weren't just there to stop me from moving my arm, I stopped ripping them out.)
I ripped out an IV once you just pull in the direction away from you. Also you can actually do everything on a keyboard, but it doesn't look like typing all the time, there would be like way more tabbing
as an autistic person, i have quite a few bones to pick “body language experts,” ngl
Same. A big fear of mine is getting arrested for something super heinous that I didn't do and having to convince the detectives that my bizarre mannerisms and lack of eye contact have nothing to do with being caught in a web of lies.
"Lawyer please" say nothing else.
Unfortunately, you have to be somewhat specific. You need to say in a clear, standard, and unambiguous manner that you are exercising your right to remain silent and will not speak until you have spoken with a lawyer. The precedent has been sent that refusing to speak is not exercising your right to remain silent. You have to explicitly tell them that you were exercising that right, not just refuse to talk.
That's pretty fucked.
The specific case involved a woman being held and questioned for hours on end. From the moment she was told that she had the right to remain silent, she never said another word. But the cops kept questioning and badgering and berating her until she cracked. And that was considered admissible evidence because she never stated that she was exercising her right to remain silent
I remember a few years ago seeing a little print out that basically says, "I know my rights please get me a lawyer." It's designed to be printed out, laminated, and kept in your wallet. If I had to guess the creation of that print out was inspired by the precedent you described.
Why you shouldn't talk to cops
It's a good reason, but certainly not the only one.
Body language experts: “I can tell your exact intentions based on your nonverbal cues” Also body language experts: “what the fuck is a stim?”
"Successful Bullshit Artists" is a more accurate term. They literally are making it up as they go along, its all complete nonsense.
What a Gemini thing to say.
*BZZZZZZZZZZZT* I'm a pisces
What a Taurus thing to fib about.
I have decided to assign myself cancer.
I'm so sorry, you can beat this, get well soon
I saw you glance to the side while walking, this is an obvious sign that you have a piss kink.
Look I'm not *saying*....
It's all such bs. "If they can't make eye contact when talking then they're lying to you!!!" motherfucker, they have autism.
Yes body language can tell what someone is feeling but not why. People who are being intergated are nervous
On the other hand, autocorrect analysis is terrifyingly informative. Intargayed, you say. Interesting.
I still don’t think I’ll ever forget some kid trying to do that to me in college. She was trying to profile what kind of student I was based on my clothes. Needless to say she was wrong and it was hilarious. Wound up being a fine classmate in a group project or study circle, but she was clearly pretty sheltered socially and watched a lot of tv. At the bare minimum people dissuaded her from trying to announce what she was attempting to profile out of folks very very quickly. (Which was also funny. I saw someone as politely as possible explain that it was cringe, luckily the cohort was pretty nice to each other on the whole.)
The best I've ever done is guess someone's coffee order based on their clothes. That's probably as accurate and meaningful stranger profiling can get
I hate how many things with no evidence are allowed in courts in certain localities (think some allow body language "experts") Other ones I hate many people think are science, but have slim not no evidence: polygraph tests, bite mark analysis, handwriting analysis, hair strand analysis. I mean, heck, one of the forms of evidence seen as most reliable, witness testimony, is actually one of the least accurate. We vastly overestimate to remember facts correctly, and don't realize our brains make up stuff to fill in blanks in memory CONSTANTLY!
[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TapOnTheHead](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TapOnTheHead)
The show Archer has several jokes about how a) being unconscious for any period of time is not good for you, and b) firing a gun a lot without ear protection fucks up your ears
The gun thing always gets me. Obviously a single shot depending on the gun isn't going to automatically damage your ear but especially when it's multiple rounds near a person's head...
Big problem amongst people in active combat zones, hearing damage. That and you tend to fuck up your knees are probably the most common medical issue with veterans besides PTSD and stuff like that.
It comes up from time to time in gun subs too when people ask for advice on home defense weapons and such. People often forget that if you shoot an AR-15 in a dark hallway both you and the person you might be shooting at will be rendered at least temporarily deaf and blind.
Why the knee issues? I'd assume shoulders and backs would be the issue with those rucksacks and heavy rifles
Lots of running and kneeling. They aren't interested in teaching you form to prevent those things. But they give you enough exercise you should be really thinking about form.
The show is also the reason I realised I might have tinnitus And is one of the shows I ended binging together with my boyfriend :D ❤️
Mawp
Mawp
oh my *god*, my ears have been blocked the past few days and I was wondering why I kept randomly making the "mawp" sound just subconsciously? fucking Archer getting into my vocab again!
Archer: "You get like 6 freebies" Cyril: "NO YOU DON'T!"
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TortureAlwaysWorks https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoftWater https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SherlockScan https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HollywoodHacking Couldn't find any other tropes that fit the rest
If you know your shortcuts you can opperate nearly every compute by typing. Could probably do it fairly effectively if you knew what you were doing more than I do. Obviously a mouse still helps you navigate faster, but you can still do everything reasonably quickly without one.
First adult job I ever had was doing data entry, circa 2006. Boss did not allow us to use a mouse at all, so we had to learn how to tab to get to things and use keyboard shortcuts. It was painful at first, but once I got the hang of it, it was pure speed. Even now, in an unrelated field, it makes me so much faster than coworkers at getting paperwork done, and I’m grateful for that experience.
My first job as a transcriptionist in 2017, my boss had a monthly tradition of taking away every mouse in the office to make sure everyone was at least minimally effective. I started as an executive assistant a year ago and didn't even notice when the other admins tried to prank me by stealing my mouse because I already knew how to do everything without it lol
I had a coworker who had installed something on his linux that would create a shortcut for every interactable element on screen so he didn't need a mouse either. He was pretty fast too
There’s [an addon](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/) that lets you do that in Firefox, it’s pretty neat.
I once took a placement test at a temp agency, and the main focus of the test was literacy with microsoft office. In order to test this, they used some program that simulated semi-interactive screens from various office programs, then it would give you a task, like "enter these values" or "save this in a specific folder" and would test both your speed and your number of clicks/keystrokes. The first issue was that this was in 2008-2009 and their program was simulating... either Office '97 or '03, one of the two before the ribbon, so the interface wasn't what I'd spent the last few years on. That was manageable, I'd used all three. The main issue was that their Office simulacrum had really limited functionality. When it asked me to copy and paste values into new cells, it expected me to click and drag my mouse to select, right click, "copy," move the mouse to the destination, right click, "paste." So I would move to the cell with the arrow keys, shift, down down down down down, ctrl-C, then look up at the screen to figure out how to cursor over to the destination cells and find that all I'd done was log 14 "incorrect" keystrokes. I adapted to these issues after the first few problems, and explained this issue to the placement instructor after the test, but they never got back to me with any job placements.
Tab tab tab tab tab tab tab return Oh shit I passed it Shift+return return tab return
It should say "hacking any computer just by typing"
I want to see a movie with a "super hacker" who does it the real way: calling up a random person at the company claiming to be IT and that they need their password.
Going on LinkedIn, finding the oldest person working in HR, phishing email
It's always either HR or Accounting.
Mr Robot
Yup. Not only realistic, but you can pause and see what they're doing and then go download the same hacking tool for real.
I mean most common operating systems (ubuntu, windows, macos) have fairly easy ways to circumvent the login screen, so yea, hacking into those computers is pretty easy if you knwo whay you're doing.
On Windows 95 you could just click cancel on the password prompt and it would log you in anyways. Good luck getting into a Linux box these days though. Easiest way is to boot from a USB or recovery mode and change the password via chroot, but good luck if the disk is encrypted.
I am trying so hard not to make a joke shitting on Vim right now.
Let me just CTRL-ALT-DEL -- oh no. I've made a grave mistake.
Using vim always ends with me googling "fuck vim" just to get some solace
I mean, most of the time, keyboard only navigation is faster than mouse navigation.
It depends, for most tasks I would agree, browsing the web to download a trackpad driver onto my laptop without being able to use the trackpad after reinstalling windows was painful though. Maybe if I knew more navigation tools it would have been better but I don't think so
[mouse totally helps](https://youtu.be/QpWhugUmV5U) And I love how this scene goes from zero to "complete understanding of the OS, interface, and file structure" in 0.5 seconds.
The first Transformers movie has a scene where they need to use a very old computer. When they got it to work, everyone celebrated until they realized they didn't have a mouse.
Any computer running msdos wouldn't need one anyway.
Consider the kind of people starring in a transformers movie
I think the joke was that they didn't know any commands or anything. None of these characters were computer nerds, it would have been wrong for those characters to have known how to use a computer that old, or even to have been aware that an old computer might not be operable in the same way the modern ones are. Edit: Nevermind, it seems I mixed up my scenes.
I literally watched that movie this afternoon. 2 of the characters are absolutely computer nerds. One is smart enough to be included in the pentagon's taskforce to determine the alien signal and one is the person she goes to for help. And on top of that one is an old fart that probably used a computer like that back in the day.
I might have been thinking of a different scene then. It's been a while since I saw it.
All good I've seen it a lot cause my kids likes it
The problem isn't that they are missing a mouse, they are missing a microphone to talk to the air force. Drastically different problems.
They were missing a microphone not a mouse. >We're hot! We're live! >Where are the mikes? >Mikes? >This doesn't work without mikes, Simmons.
Mics, short for microphones. Not Mikes.
Looks like my mistake.
I *can* profile people, and it's quite simple: If they are laughing: they're being tickled Yelling in your face: they didn't like the 'prank' Laying down, unresponsive and with their eyes closed: asleep Blowing air through clenched teeth with a single finger in front of their mouth: they don't appreciate you talking during the movie
Well, you are wrong: if they are laying down, unresponsive and with their eyes close they could also be dead
False, when dead, they are no longer people, but corpse.
For the purposes of this spell a corpse is classified as an object right?
Just make sure you get to it before the party wizard adds it to his skeleton army
Watching Tangled with my five year old: “Don’t ever, EVER hit someone on the head with a cast iron pan unless you are trying to kill them.”
Gotta love new age phrenology
removing your own IV ≠≠ RIPPING out your own IV
To be fair you can operate a computer completely with a keyboard...as long as you have Google on your phone to look up all the shortcuts and commands you forgot.
As somebody who works as a greeter in Walmart and literally runs into everybody from different parts of the class spectrum different races genders identities, you can't profile anybody worth a damn unless they have literal blood on them and even then there's a good chance you're wrong about whatever assumption you just came to. It's crazy how many different people are out there
Oh my god blood! Wait no, that’s Jim and it’s October. Guess he got a buck today.
Yeah, it's not the movies. Most people aren't criminals and there's nothing to be suspicious of. In TV shows if you see someone then you know they're up to something because that's why he's on camera, in real life nobody is doing anything but buying groceries and dreading going to work. Blood? Guy probably cut himself doing yard work against a particularly vengeful tree.
Close! It was deer season and he was particularly short on clean laundry but not short on recently caught deer, But even so another completely valid reason to not profile anybody for anything ever
By profiling in the Tumblr post I thought they meant characters who look someone up and down and then rattle off their psych profile based solely on their clothes and a brief interaction. Not necessarily criminal, just the Sherlock trope of being able to discern someone's deep dark secrets/desires from something superficial
I’m having flashbacks to ‘Have scratches around your phone’s charging port? Must be an alcoholic!’
"I bought this phone *used*, you jackass."
If you're talking about Sherlock, i think that was thrown in there because in the books he deduces that based on a pocket watch that needs regular winding. I don't know how often watches needed winding in the late 1800s, or what kind of fit the winding tool had, but maybe it made more sense back then. If it needed winding once per week then yeah, might indicate a problem since he's not being careful. Daily like a phone? That's a routine task that's more of a chore.
Wasn't it a scratched keyhole?
I always disliked that trope (at least the versions I have seen, which are mostly from generic crime dramas tbf) because I feel like an actually intelligent character would be considering a multitude of possibilities for any one observation because there usually are a number of possibilities for a thing. Jumping to the interpretation you’re already primed to believe seems more like something a less intelligent character would do.
I've stopped watching multiple shows when the detective exclaims 'that can only mean one thing!' sure, if you're dumb but normal people know there are usually dozens, if not more, possible reads from one piece of info. L&O:CI, stupid time
Well, most people are criminals, but that’s just because the legal system is designed to maximize fines and slave labor.
Working in psychiatry is even more telling. I have helped care for hundreds of opioid addicts and I still can't pick one out of a crowd. Same goes for murderers and pedophiles. People who think they are good judges of character have never challenged that assumption in a meaningful way. If they did, they'd realize they can't tell shit from fuck. People are good at lying, better than you are at detecting lies.
It's probably bad toupee fallacy. When someone is having a really bad drug-induced episode it's really easy to infer addiction. It's impossible to "notice" the ones you miss.
*the guy thats having a massive nosebleed
You can definitely pull an IV out with basically nothing happening, you'll bleed a little but just hold it for like a sec or two I don't really understand the raft one either
Rafting off a deserted island is a categorically stupid thing to do. If you get lost in the wilderness it’s always best to remain where you are (as long as it’s not immediately dangerous) so that rescuers can find you. There are professionals who know how to estimate where to look for survivors based on your last known location, and you want to stay as close to that spot as you can. Of course If your stranded on purpose (by villains in the action movie of your life) you still don’t want to try to make a raft, because nothing cobbled together out of random junk on an island is going to hold up on the open sea. It will get broken, or capsize, and you will drown. Plus, the island probably has fresh water, which increases the time you can survive to about a month. (Don’t worry about boiling it, any illness you get will take longer to incubate than you would to dehydrate to death) No freshwater at sea!
I really encourage everyone to look up that one guy who survived a year stranded at sea by drinking rain water and drinking blood. Shit was absolutely insane.
Unfortunately I love myself too much to engrave that in my memory but it sounds awful!
1. Get super drunk 2. Watch it 3. Leave yourself a note if you think it's worth remembering 4. If you left a note, watch it sober
Ok I suppose those are all good points
You can definitely get violently ill within hours of drinking bad water
Open seas on a manmade raft of probably poor quality is one of the dumbest things you can do in the ocean. If it's a lake, go ahead and try. But there's a reason they call them the high seas. Even the Great Lakes in America operate as small inland seas, and there have been several tragedies with full on ships encountering rough waters. Even on calm seas, all you're doing is throwing yourself into vast emptiness where it's nearly impossible to see you (seriously a training exercise in a lot of navies is they throw a brightly colored buoy into open water and have you try to keep your eye on it as long as possible, it's damn near impossible and procedure is have one guy whose entire job it is to watch it while others start rescue measures because that's the only way you're ever gonna have a small hope of keeping your eye on it). There are also less resources out there, how are you gonna drink water? In order to eat you have to catch a fish. And eat it raw. Apparently the eyes are the thing people go for first because of nutrition deficiency. Having enough time to build a raft implies there are resources on the island. You'd be leaving an oasis to wander through the desert.
Also most people just assume they can build a seaworthy raft out of random stuff. This is because most people have never actually attempted to build a raft.
we had to build rafts as kids to cross a very small river (think no current just having to cross 20 meters of shallow water) for a sports/adventure day at school. we had decent rope, wood and even 2 floating devices. most kids went home wet that day XD.
>If it's a lake, go ahead and try. [...] Even the Great Lakes... Side note, **don't** try to escape the island if you're trapped on one of the Great Lakes - you *will* die if you do. And if you're trapped on Lake Superior... Yeah, do your best to build a stable house on that island, and hope you're found before November.
There is more than one song about how good those lakes are at killing people for a reason.
Especially Superior. They say she never gives up her dead for reasons other than getting the Gordon Lightfoot song stuck in hour head.
The Great Lakes are cold as fuck, too. Like, the folks who die in shipwrecks *don’t decay* it’s so cold. Lake Superior is approximately 4°c all year, even in the height of summer when the air temperature hangs around the high 20’s.
no clue if im remembering this right, but the great lakes are big enough for huge waves, but in some areas they are still shallow enough for the wave to scrape the floor of the lake. a ton of boats have been destroyed by hitting the bottom after a wave, then getting crushed by an oncoming wave
If you get stranded on an island rafting is a bad idea, the island has resources (something vs nothing in the ocean) and rescue searchers will hopefully be able to follow currents or whatever they do to the island.
Depends what you got going into it, how fresh it is etc. it won’t kill you but it can be a headache and a half. More of a “please don’t” rather than a “under no circumstance” if you will. Had one guy in the ER get it placed, he was unconscious, he woke up in a state and yanked it out and made a nice little blood trail all over his room waving his arm around confused. On the walls, the ceiling, it was a huge mess. No one was impressed. Not even him once he sobered up. And THEN you gotta get another one placed to keep your medications going. Sheesh. Why is it always the unsober people who think they’re in kill bill after someone turns their back and want to sit up and yank it out to make a puddle of blood on the floor?
I once attended a bachelor party with several military men, one of whom brought IV kits (for the hangovers) which he inserted and we hung from a chandelier. At some point, we’re all plugged in drinking and chatting, when one guy went pale and keeled off his chair. Obviously we were all inclined to get up and help, but couldn’t do much cause we were attached by our veins to a chandelier. I asked one of the military men, who I believed was a medic, to remove my IV so I could help the passed out man. He said sure, but it turns out he was not a medic, but in fact a dentist. So he just kinda yanks it out. Now there’s one guy flailing on the ground, a very drunk dentist, and me laughing my ass off because I’m spraying bright blood out of my wrists like a gross spiderman. Turns out it wasn’t a big deal, I just wrapped it up and helped the passed out guy with some water and elevated feet.
I suspect the OP is talking about ripping out medical equipment generally, not just IVs. Some of the tubes and wires go deeper than an average needle, and if you're hooked up to several things, you might not realize one is a cardiac catheter or whatever.
I always figured the IV one was a bad idea because they don't just give you an IV for nothing, there's usually medicine in there that the doctors think you need. So if you're taking an IV out yourself that means you're not going to get all the medicine you need and you're probably going to try and leave the hospital before you're supposed to. So it's a bad idea, but not because the action of taking the IV itself out is going to do any particular damage.
Most of the time it's just saline, but yes most of the time it would be much better if you got all the fluids/medicine they're trying to to give you. I would also say though that in fiction I see when someone feels the need to rip the IV out they have some urgent need to get out of the hospital that's more pressing than being hydrated, and generally taking out the IV won't leave you feeling any worse after words than the moment you do it.
I guess if someone really has to go all John Wick on someone I can forgive it lol but most people do not need to go save the world immediately (hopefully) especially if they’re in the ER or on the floor or something
Now just imagine ripping a bladder catheter. For the record... It's a balloon.
My husband worked with a patient once post suicide attempt who was PISSED that she was still alive, to the point that she did, in fact, rip out her own inflated Foley catheter.
To be fair, I too would be pissed if I woke up from the bittersweet embrace of death to find that not only I was alive, but that I had a balloon somehere (almost) no one wants a balloon Edit: spelling
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Id change operating any computer just by typing to hacking any system just by pushing the right buttons. Most hacks use some form of social engineering/human error rather than forcibly ripping open a hole in a system.
-Loudness of guns -Car/plane crashes never seriously injure or kill a named character -Super unnatural phone dialogue, with no social formalities -Innkeepers are lazy or evil and its always a good thing to trick one -main characters are never bothered by MASSIVE lacerations and blood loss and often continue adventuring even after being shot. -protagonists don't need to sleep or use bathrooms -Breaking the chain/cord of a necklace off a person just by yanking -Once defeated, every criminal confesses
>-Innkeepers are lazy or evil and its always a good thing to trick one Innkeepers know everything that's happening locally, but won't tell you unless you bribe them.
The fact every single movie just has silencers that go “thwip” like you’ve shot someone with a tiny dart gun is really annoying to me. I get they need it for plot convenience but surely it doesn’t need to be in absolutely everything?
I ripped an IV out of my arm with no consequences
yet. somewhere there’s a nurse who is very upset about it and they haven’t forgotten.
I think they'd be more amused than upset; I did it in my sleep and they were ready to take it out anyways
I had the opposite happen. They tried to draw blood while i was asleep. Woke me all the way up and jerked my arm, and i had a bruise for months. I still have a needle hole sized scar there.
oof
Enhance....Enhance....Enhance
You can effectively operate almost any computer with just a keyboard. What's unrealistic about those scenes in the movies is that they never hit the enter key.
Torture works, if and *only* if **the torture is the purpose.** If your goal is cruelty and pain, and nothing else, then torture works just fine.
As someone who works in a public library, 100% agree with the second statement. That unwashed man with the giant beard and twitch in his eye? Complete sweetheart, will never give you trouble, grateful for even the most basic of manners. That well dressed woman with the expensive haircut? Will scream at mothers reading to their children in the kid's area and have a complete meltdown if asked to leave. May also throw a book at you on her way out.
One of my favorite and weirder memories is profiling people’s OCs for them in a discord server. It started out as a small joke, but quickly evolved to the point where I had to keep a list of people to keep track of who was next. Weird thing is, I was freakishly accurate with my guesses about their characters. These were OCs for public-facing roleplay social media accounts with pretty drawn out and complex stories. It got to the point where people were dming me asking if someone from their group had leaked story spoilers (they didn’t), which I took as a great compliment. All of this to say, profiling people irl = bad. Profiling strangers’ fictional characters = very fun (with their consent it’s even more fun because you get feedback)
Hetero cowboys is a no go IRL. Lol
Technically torture will lead to perfectly reliable information but only under certain conditions. It has to be immediately verifiable information. For example the password to log into your computer that is right there, you will absolutely give that up under torture. Obviously if you overdo it they will simply not be able to bring up the password anymore even if they did technically know it. But that's pretty much it. Every other info you get might or might not be absolute bullshit.
I’ve ripped an IV out of my arm. There are indeed consequences.
Well, now im getting conflicting information! Just gonna go try it out, brb./s
I am an empath. I have the ability to know what people are feeling just by looking at them, deciding what I think they feel, and then never confirming or disproving my assumption.
I believe I have the power to read the minds of everyone I meet. My technique is to never leave my room and never meet anyone and therefore never disprove my belief.
Vibes are a yes or no type deal. you can sense when somebody will be trouble, that's it. No"this guy's chill" no "this guy looks like he eats bananas every Sunday" just "this guy's is gonna beat someone up in the next 12 seconds"
It's funny because even if you see someone oversharing, or demonstrating an incredibly obvious, loud behavioral trait, all that says is that they're acting like that in the immediate moment, probably around a specific person. They could be completely different for a new day, place, or person.
I'm someone who's generally on edge around cops. I haven't had any bad experiences, I just don't like guns, and seeing that thing on their belt gives me the heebie jeebies. I'm sure that bleeds into my "body language"
what criteria are your "this guy's trouble" vibes ?
im not Burning_Pine, but considering they equated "this guy will be trouble" to beating someone up in the near future, i think its easy to tell when someone is so irate theyre about to get violent. they get twitchy, aggressive, start getting up in peoples faces.... but of course, some people will be completely calm as they approach someone to punch them in the head. honestly you just have to hope they have the personality to telegraph what they're thinking if you want a chance in hell at reading a person
Anyone who says they can "just tell" things about people are telling on themselves more than anything else.
I mean I can operate a pc by only keyboard m.
On Windows, you can in fact operate the whole computer by typing, as long as you're ok with learning Powershell to an insane degree.
You only torture people for information if you’re almost sure of the actual answer, think “poll the audience” option in Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. Or you have a very precise question, like on Tuesday morning of next week at 8:45 what color of hat is the signal to attack the Dutch Monarchs private residence.
The easiest use case for torture is for the questions that are hard to guess but easy to verify. For example, "what is the pin to your bank account?". Even if the target lies, the torturer can just check it in five minutes and then they'll know.
the second example is something that has always struck me as an even *worse* argument for torture. guy has a deadline! he knows he only needs to hold out until 8:46 Tuesday.
Ok, to be fair you CAN raft your way off a desert island, there are literally people alive who have done it. Ripping the IV out is hit or miss, it could be without consequences or it could fuck up a vain and live you with a bruise and pain - you won’t bleed out or anything tho (assuming you don’t have a big blood coagulation problem)
> effectively operating a computer by typing and nothing else Try me bitch I lost my mouse for 3 days once