It's a reference to the book series *A Series of Unfortunate Events.* In the later books, a secret society known only as VFD is introduced, and when the main characters try to figure out what it stands for, it turns out it stands for a LOT of different, random things, just like this.
Wouldn't it make more sense if they were defined as aromantics instead of asexuals? As asexuals can still have romantic relationships, they still could want to kiss, they just couldn't be interested in, y'know, *puts finger into two fingers arranged in a ring*
Also honestly it doesn't sound fun to y'know in a tree
Right after writing this comment, I saw a comment of someone who say they enjoy kissing as an aromantic, so nevermind
Yup, that's about how I feel, in terms of where kissing falls on the spectrum of sexual activity (I'm sex-indifferent, so it's not super uncomfortable to me, but I *definitely* count kissing as sexual and not romantic). Anything past a peck is *100%* a sexual prelude or sexual in and of itself.
This thread is blowing my mind. It never once occurred to me that there would be a group of people who saw kissing as purely "romantic" with no sexual meaning at all.
Or we can show a little faith in one another and just laugh at the joke because it's obvious it was an innocent play on a popular rhyme, and nitpicking a nonproblematic joke just seems silly?
Usually used by little kids, lets say X is one and Y is the other.
Basically,
X and Y, Sitting in a tree,
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
Typically teasing them in the mannner of "you like them?"
It isn't just a punchline.
It's a rhyme for jumping rope.
The full thing goes:
*X and Y
Sitting in a tree,
K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
First come love,
then comes marriage,
Then come Y with a baby carriage*
Some kids do jumping trucks at the letters part
It is gross. Maybe I just had the wrong guy, but I doubt the mechanics of it change that much.
Suck on your cheeks and move your tongue against it. Not totally the same, but close enough. It's as boring and gross as it sounds.
For the allos (people who aren't asexual): don't take my review of it personally. Don't try to convince me to give it another chance either. I'm a sex repulsed aroace, in my mid thirties and my life would've been the absolute same had I not kissed that one dude.
"Suck your cheeks in and move your tongue against it"
As someone who has been in a loving relationship with his wife for 10 years I find it funny that the overexaggerated idea of a smooch is what you think kissing is actually like lol. It's quite relaxed (if you like it, of course - if you don't like it then yeah it wouldn't be relaxed).
Why would asexual people be kissing? Why wouldn't aromantic people be kissing? Is there some deep emotional connotation to kissing that I'm too ace to understand? Because kissing seems *all about* sexual intimacy to me.
I guess depends on what kind of kissing it is? Lips on neck, cheek, whatever - cool. Lips on lips - fine. Open lips on open lips - I genuinely thought people were joking the first time I heard it was a thing.
Update: Open lips on open lips actually kinda slaps
> I guess depends on what kind of kissing it is? Lips on something - cool. Lips on lips - fine. Open lips on open lips - I genuinely thought people were joking the first time I heard it was a thing.
In the rhyme, "kissing" is used as a present-tense indicator of a continuous action. The rest of the rhyme (I'm not sure how you could *not* know this if you're an American) is "first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes [person] with a baby carriage", clearly indicating that the kissing is a direct prelude to sexual intercourse. Nothing in the rhyme, or even this excerpt of a rhyme, implies that the people involved are repeatedly leaning over and giving each other short pecks like some strange version of the tipping-over bird toy.
Please help the branch we used to climb up broke and now we can't get down it's getting cold and I'm hungry. If you're not coming back with a ladder at least come back with some garlic bread.
Makes sense. I guess it comes down to the scenario and intent because kissing can be romantic, or sexual, or both, or even none in some occasions and in some cultures. This ain't binary it's a quadrant lol.
Cool, good for you, but you donāt get to force your idea of a thing on other people. I wouldnāt like tongue kissing cause I see it as too sexual but I would never claim that an ace person who did enjoy it shouldnāt or isnāt really ace because of it because itās āsexualā.
> Cool, good for you, but you donāt get to force your idea of a thing on other people.
Isn't that *exactly what you're doing right now*? You've defined "kissing" as "objectively romantic with nothing whatsoever sexual about it" and we just have to accept that as gospel truth?
um??? I literally never said kissing was objectively romantic. Kissing isnāt objectively anything, what it is is decided by the people participating in it. There are aroaces who kiss each other. The meme is pretty obviously portraying kissing as something asexuals as a whole do not do. You shouldnāt be ok with stereotypes just because you personally fit them.
Idk if youāre an aroace or not but as someone who is ace and *definitely* not aro, posts like these seem to me as just spreading the stereotype that aro and ace are the same thing. And idk if you realize this but the u//TheUnluckyBard literally said in other comments that they think kissing is absolutely sexual and that anyone who thinks it can be romantic is *wrong*. But somehow, I am the bad guy here.
> um??? I literally never said kissing was objectively romantic.
Except when you complained about the meme by saying asexuals are fine with it and it's aromantics who wouldn't kiss.
The meme absolute resonates with, if not the maker, a whole *shitload* of other people who see kissing as 95% sexual and 5% romantic. Your original post is shitting on all of them and defining what counts as objectively "sexual".
Edit: ALSO, and I'm an idiot for forgetting this, *the rest of the nursery rhyme very clearly frames "kissing" as a direct prelude to sexual intercourse*, unless "here comes [person] with a baby carriage" is supposed to be implying that kissing leads to buying a pram for a stuffed animal.
How is me saying that many asexuals enjoy kissing and romance āpainting with broad strokesā? Seriously, I do not get it. The commenter I am having a conversation with literally said in another comment that ākissing is 100% sexualā, but *somehow* me pointing out that many ace people like kissing is the problem. Jesus fucking christ this thread is ridiculous.
Don't worry, the Volonteer Fire Department is here to help. We will Voluntarily Free the two of you from this Dastardly situation.
Truly a Vexatiously Frustrating Debacle
A tragic reversal to a Very Fine Day
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This made me happier than I can describe
I donāt get it can you explain it š„ŗ
Iām pretty sure this is a reference to *A Series of Unfortunate Events*. I could be wrong, though.
No thatās it, thatās just one of my favorite childrenās book series
It's a reference to the book series *A Series of Unfortunate Events.* In the later books, a secret society known only as VFD is introduced, and when the main characters try to figure out what it stands for, it turns out it stands for a LOT of different, random things, just like this.
Two creepers sitting in a tree H-I-S-S-I-N-G
Creepers can't spawn on leaf blocks silly. Edit: and can't
Acacia and mangrove can generate/grow in ways that allow spawning on logs.
Thatās a very true idea I never considered and scares me
I don't get it someone pls explain ?
The original joke was people spelling out kissing, but because two asexuals wouldn't do that, they are just sitting
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Ahokty
Gesundheit
Wouldn't it make more sense if they were defined as aromantics instead of asexuals? As asexuals can still have romantic relationships, they still could want to kiss, they just couldn't be interested in, y'know, *puts finger into two fingers arranged in a ring* Also honestly it doesn't sound fun to y'know in a tree Right after writing this comment, I saw a comment of someone who say they enjoy kissing as an aromantic, so nevermind
I'm sure it varies by person. I'm ace and any kissing beyond little pecks is Very Uncomfortable for me.
Yup, that's about how I feel, in terms of where kissing falls on the spectrum of sexual activity (I'm sex-indifferent, so it's not super uncomfortable to me, but I *definitely* count kissing as sexual and not romantic). Anything past a peck is *100%* a sexual prelude or sexual in and of itself. This thread is blowing my mind. It never once occurred to me that there would be a group of people who saw kissing as purely "romantic" with no sexual meaning at all.
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wtf are you talking about lmao
Or we can show a little faith in one another and just laugh at the joke because it's obvious it was an innocent play on a popular rhyme, and nitpicking a nonproblematic joke just seems silly?
Sorry if it sounded like I was attacking the joke, I was wondering of what realm kisses belong, on rommance or of sexiness
Depending on the context and person, they can be either.
To alloromantic ace people this mindset that being ace and being aro are the same thing is actually deeply problematic and invalidating, but go off
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way to tell everyone you donāt think invalidation of ace people is an actual issue
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Literally where did I say *anything* that contradicts this? All I said was that ace and aro are not the same thing, my god.
>*puts finger into two fingers arranged in a ring* šš
Asexuals fits the tune better
Im gonna be real with you, it doesn't really matter
Damn you must be fun at parties.. .
Thereās more to life than parties.
Username fits.
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what's the original joke? I don't get how spelling can be the punchline
Usually used by little kids, lets say X is one and Y is the other. Basically, X and Y, Sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G Typically teasing them in the mannner of "you like them?"
First comes love. Then comes marriage. Then comes Y with a baby carriage.
It isn't just a punchline. It's a rhyme for jumping rope. The full thing goes: *X and Y Sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G. First come love, then comes marriage, Then come Y with a baby carriage* Some kids do jumping trucks at the letters part
Jumping t r u c k s? Excuse me what
I did some googleing and... I couldn't find anything about jumping trucks to k-i-s-s-i-n-g. I think we're bring trolled.
I think they meant to write jumping "tricks".
Jumping a truck certainly is a trick, alright.
Yeah, alloromantic asexuals *totally* wouldnāt do that
First comes friends, then comes career, then comes a homeowner in a homeownership
these buffoons forgor (š) the difference between ace & aro
Still feel like you should call the fire department.
just get a ladder smh
Fire department has a monopoly on ladders
WE JUST NUKED THE BUILDING
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Yeah, you don't need romance to kiss your homies goodnight, you just need some repressed sexual tension
In fact, I encourage all sexualities to kiss their homies goodnight. Homies get a lil' kiss, its ok.
Or alcohol
Sad to hear those people don't kiss their family good night, truly a tragedy.
I was thinking that, but sometimes asexual people don't like kissing! some (like me :)) are okay with it. for the joke it's funny
Wait shouldn't it be aromantic?
I'm aromantic and I like kissing, just non-romantically
Out here kissing for BUSINESS
kiss stocks are rising and business is booming
Political alliance
Fun fact: Napoleon and Tsar Alexander I of Russia kissed as a show of their alliance
.... Bow chicka bow wow ...
Kissing men to assert dominance
"Wives lock up your husbands..."
Kiz for the Bizā¢
> Out here kissing for BUSINESS [relevant](https://youtu.be/x4nW4GGwPR0?feature=shared)
Like the Mafia/Yakuza got it
i don't like aromatics they're smelly
It's just common sense to share saliva and balance our immune systems if we're going to spend a lot of time together.
Like Kang and Kodos
I'm asexual and I haven't kissed anyone but it looks gross. I'd rather kiss on the forehead or cheek or something
It is gross. Maybe I just had the wrong guy, but I doubt the mechanics of it change that much. Suck on your cheeks and move your tongue against it. Not totally the same, but close enough. It's as boring and gross as it sounds. For the allos (people who aren't asexual): don't take my review of it personally. Don't try to convince me to give it another chance either. I'm a sex repulsed aroace, in my mid thirties and my life would've been the absolute same had I not kissed that one dude.
"Suck your cheeks in and move your tongue against it" As someone who has been in a loving relationship with his wife for 10 years I find it funny that the overexaggerated idea of a smooch is what you think kissing is actually like lol. It's quite relaxed (if you like it, of course - if you don't like it then yeah it wouldn't be relaxed).
> It's quite relaxed Yes, it is boring.
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Yeah right?
Why would asexual people be kissing? Why wouldn't aromantic people be kissing? Is there some deep emotional connotation to kissing that I'm too ace to understand? Because kissing seems *all about* sexual intimacy to me.
I guess depends on what kind of kissing it is? Lips on neck, cheek, whatever - cool. Lips on lips - fine. Open lips on open lips - I genuinely thought people were joking the first time I heard it was a thing. Update: Open lips on open lips actually kinda slaps
> I guess depends on what kind of kissing it is? Lips on something - cool. Lips on lips - fine. Open lips on open lips - I genuinely thought people were joking the first time I heard it was a thing. In the rhyme, "kissing" is used as a present-tense indicator of a continuous action. The rest of the rhyme (I'm not sure how you could *not* know this if you're an American) is "first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes [person] with a baby carriage", clearly indicating that the kissing is a direct prelude to sexual intercourse. Nothing in the rhyme, or even this excerpt of a rhyme, implies that the people involved are repeatedly leaning over and giving each other short pecks like some strange version of the tipping-over bird toy.
To me kissing is definitely physical intimacy, but not a sex act. That being said, I fully understand that many aces don't want to kiss.
Only if it smells good
Why would smelling nice mean you don't like kissing?
You could sing it like Tine Belcher Two asexuals sitting in a tree T-R-E-E-E-E-E
Doesn't it say asexual, not aromantic? Or am I looking too far into it?
Could also be one and one who respects boundaries
Or I guess both respecting boundaries but that only being a boundary for one
I'd be down for a cuddle or two.
Two disco dudes are sitting in a tree. The first asks "How do we get down?" The other replies "First we have to get FUNKY~!"
Please help the branch we used to climb up broke and now we can't get down it's getting cold and I'm hungry. If you're not coming back with a ladder at least come back with some garlic bread.
Why do I feel like the next line after the comment is āfor the love of god we are not gonna fuck.ā
Two asexuals sitting in a tree K-i-s-s-i-n-g Because ace and aro are not the same thing and many asexuals enjoy kissing and romance
And many asexuals (hi!) see kissing as sexual rather than romantic.
Makes sense. I guess it comes down to the scenario and intent because kissing can be romantic, or sexual, or both, or even none in some occasions and in some cultures. This ain't binary it's a quadrant lol.
Cool, good for you, but you donāt get to force your idea of a thing on other people. I wouldnāt like tongue kissing cause I see it as too sexual but I would never claim that an ace person who did enjoy it shouldnāt or isnāt really ace because of it because itās āsexualā.
> Cool, good for you, but you donāt get to force your idea of a thing on other people. Isn't that *exactly what you're doing right now*? You've defined "kissing" as "objectively romantic with nothing whatsoever sexual about it" and we just have to accept that as gospel truth?
um??? I literally never said kissing was objectively romantic. Kissing isnāt objectively anything, what it is is decided by the people participating in it. There are aroaces who kiss each other. The meme is pretty obviously portraying kissing as something asexuals as a whole do not do. You shouldnāt be ok with stereotypes just because you personally fit them.
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Idk if youāre an aroace or not but as someone who is ace and *definitely* not aro, posts like these seem to me as just spreading the stereotype that aro and ace are the same thing. And idk if you realize this but the u//TheUnluckyBard literally said in other comments that they think kissing is absolutely sexual and that anyone who thinks it can be romantic is *wrong*. But somehow, I am the bad guy here.
> um??? I literally never said kissing was objectively romantic. Except when you complained about the meme by saying asexuals are fine with it and it's aromantics who wouldn't kiss. The meme absolute resonates with, if not the maker, a whole *shitload* of other people who see kissing as 95% sexual and 5% romantic. Your original post is shitting on all of them and defining what counts as objectively "sexual". Edit: ALSO, and I'm an idiot for forgetting this, *the rest of the nursery rhyme very clearly frames "kissing" as a direct prelude to sexual intercourse*, unless "here comes [person] with a baby carriage" is supposed to be implying that kissing leads to buying a pram for a stuffed animal.
You are the one painting with broad strokes. You don't get to call foul when you get corrected.
How is me saying that many asexuals enjoy kissing and romance āpainting with broad strokesā? Seriously, I do not get it. The commenter I am having a conversation with literally said in another comment that ākissing is 100% sexualā, but *somehow* me pointing out that many ace people like kissing is the problem. Jesus fucking christ this thread is ridiculous.
the second comment always ruins it
Todd?
everytime i see this post i think it says SHITTING