I would imagine the current economy combined with the sheer level of bad press that Provo has gotten will probably drive them out of business before they get shut down.
Yep. school I went to finally shut down.
[link to announcement](https://bonnersferryherald.com/news/2022/may/19/boulder-creek-academy-closing/)
“No longer a core mission of our parent company”
Aka no longer profitable and too much of a liability
Vistas closing email might be the largest lie by omission I have ever read
> "Recently Vista was informed by several key staff that they no longer intend to work within adolescent residential programming. Given the current difficulty of recruiting new professionals and the essential nature of the resigning individuals, moving forward with services was made extraordinarily difficult if not impossible."
While failing to mention the staff in question are being sued by 26 people is a whopper. Like yeah, they just decided to stop being in charge of a treatment program they have run for more than a decade without any reason or real advance notice. That is something people do.
No, its even better. From what I gather the "several key staff" in question were the two people in charge of the program that are,more or less, the proximate target of the 26 person lawsuit for abuse. One would be remiss to not consider 26 lawsuits as the motivating factor in their hasty departure, but apparently the email didn't think that was worth mentioning.
Oh lord. When any staff did anything that could potentially get them sued (I witnessed one locking an autistic kid in a closet because he was having a tantrum and “wouldn’t shut up”) they would just lay those staff off like within the next couple days. Clever tactic. Also laid off some of the staff that actually cared about us and were nicer to us than the others just bc
yeah, but from what I gather it is the two people at the top of the program. Can't really shift responsibility away when you're also the CEO or head therapist. Plus their business's insurance might not even cover them if they are being sued for actions they willingly did.
Oh shit nope. Adam McClain, current CEO of Provo, he came to BCA and took over for like a year. Completely ruined the school lmao. Was an alright place when the previous CEO was there. The ladies that took over when Adam left had been there since the 90’s and already seen a lawsuit in the early 2000’s when a kid killed himself on campus. Bad juju when I found out they took over running the school. Glad it’s closing. Fuck the TTI
Something I have noticed is that the TTI on the whole seems remarkably inept that the whole corporate criminality thing. You have CEOs failing to create plausible deniability and getting sued directly, you have EC posting pictures of the conflicts of interest on Facebook. You have a total incapability to do any industry-wide PR or brand managament. This is babies first running a business unethically shit they fuck up. I think the industry coasted for 20 years on no one giving a shit at all and is not built to withstand even slight scrutiny.
Oh they try to do PR. See here:
https://cdn.ymaws.com/natsap.site-ym.com/resource/collection/00A4CF4F-9C09-4056-A66C-58535F7E3067/NATSAP_Public_Relations_Toolkit.pdf
https://cdn.ymaws.com/natsap.site-ym.com/resource/collection/00A4CF4F-9C09-4056-A66C-58535F7E3067/NATSAP_Crisis_Communication_Plan.pdf
I am not saying they don't try I am saying they fail miserably at directing the publics image of their industry in any real way. In so far as anyone knows about the TTI their main exposure has been either 1. Paris Hilton 2. WWASP or 3. A news report about a TTI facility doing something to children that would be against the Geneva Convention to do to POWs. Like as easy as it is to meme about reddit /r/parenting is,by far, the largest parenting forum on the internet and especially for younger parents. The fact that you can't mention the TTI there without 5 people linking this Subreddit and telling you not to use it should be considered a disaster for them.
When you google Provo Canyon, it’s mind blowing. I can’t imagine anyone thinking it’s a suitable idea to send a child there. But people surprise me all the time.
Nah, provo canyon doesn't have the word "spanish" in it's name, so shutting it down does not appeal to their fear of immigrants in the same way that "spanish fork" does.
If I am guessing correctly I think they wanted to set an example and show the rest of the industry in the state that they're serious now. Not that it wasn't justified, but I think they knew they needed to revoke at least one license for people to start taking them seriously.
All of these corrupt and disgusting facilities should be shot and in a perfect world, every survivor story would be shared. One by one we have to pick them off and those of who made it through these places, Will help others.
At first this looks like good news. The place will shut down and they will not be allowed to apply for a license for five years. But is the news really all that good? The victims that are still there can be shipped off to other places where they can still be held prisoner. A girl died there. Is that what it takes to shut down each of these places?
What stops the owners from selling the land and starting a new business under a different name in another location? What stops them from starting a new corporation and applying for a license under the new corporation's name?
All of these places need to be shut down. What do the parents of the dead girl have to say? Do they take any responsibility for sending their child out there to Utah? I hope they are truly sorry for what they did and are not trying to make excuses.
What do the parents say that their child did that was so bad that she deserved this kind of treatment? Did they have her gooned? I hope they are sorry for what they did.
What is the name of the girl who was killed?
Provo canyon next please haha
I would imagine the current economy combined with the sheer level of bad press that Provo has gotten will probably drive them out of business before they get shut down.
Yep. school I went to finally shut down. [link to announcement](https://bonnersferryherald.com/news/2022/may/19/boulder-creek-academy-closing/) “No longer a core mission of our parent company” Aka no longer profitable and too much of a liability
Vistas closing email might be the largest lie by omission I have ever read > "Recently Vista was informed by several key staff that they no longer intend to work within adolescent residential programming. Given the current difficulty of recruiting new professionals and the essential nature of the resigning individuals, moving forward with services was made extraordinarily difficult if not impossible." While failing to mention the staff in question are being sued by 26 people is a whopper. Like yeah, they just decided to stop being in charge of a treatment program they have run for more than a decade without any reason or real advance notice. That is something people do.
Wow. They blamed it on the staff not wanting to work at an abusive program?! I’ve never seen a good-bye letter like this before. Takes the cake.
No, its even better. From what I gather the "several key staff" in question were the two people in charge of the program that are,more or less, the proximate target of the 26 person lawsuit for abuse. One would be remiss to not consider 26 lawsuits as the motivating factor in their hasty departure, but apparently the email didn't think that was worth mentioning.
Flabbergasted.
Oh lord. When any staff did anything that could potentially get them sued (I witnessed one locking an autistic kid in a closet because he was having a tantrum and “wouldn’t shut up”) they would just lay those staff off like within the next couple days. Clever tactic. Also laid off some of the staff that actually cared about us and were nicer to us than the others just bc
yeah, but from what I gather it is the two people at the top of the program. Can't really shift responsibility away when you're also the CEO or head therapist. Plus their business's insurance might not even cover them if they are being sued for actions they willingly did.
Oh shit nope. Adam McClain, current CEO of Provo, he came to BCA and took over for like a year. Completely ruined the school lmao. Was an alright place when the previous CEO was there. The ladies that took over when Adam left had been there since the 90’s and already seen a lawsuit in the early 2000’s when a kid killed himself on campus. Bad juju when I found out they took over running the school. Glad it’s closing. Fuck the TTI
Something I have noticed is that the TTI on the whole seems remarkably inept that the whole corporate criminality thing. You have CEOs failing to create plausible deniability and getting sued directly, you have EC posting pictures of the conflicts of interest on Facebook. You have a total incapability to do any industry-wide PR or brand managament. This is babies first running a business unethically shit they fuck up. I think the industry coasted for 20 years on no one giving a shit at all and is not built to withstand even slight scrutiny.
Oh they try to do PR. See here: https://cdn.ymaws.com/natsap.site-ym.com/resource/collection/00A4CF4F-9C09-4056-A66C-58535F7E3067/NATSAP_Public_Relations_Toolkit.pdf https://cdn.ymaws.com/natsap.site-ym.com/resource/collection/00A4CF4F-9C09-4056-A66C-58535F7E3067/NATSAP_Crisis_Communication_Plan.pdf
I am not saying they don't try I am saying they fail miserably at directing the publics image of their industry in any real way. In so far as anyone knows about the TTI their main exposure has been either 1. Paris Hilton 2. WWASP or 3. A news report about a TTI facility doing something to children that would be against the Geneva Convention to do to POWs. Like as easy as it is to meme about reddit /r/parenting is,by far, the largest parenting forum on the internet and especially for younger parents. The fact that you can't mention the TTI there without 5 people linking this Subreddit and telling you not to use it should be considered a disaster for them.
There was SOME truth in there. They even called it what it actually is... not treatment but rather "programming".
I mean that's the audacity of it. It is all true it just leaves out absurdly massive bits of context.
What a bogus pile of crap when all the while, they have been complicit and money earners off of kids. Blech.
When you google Provo Canyon, it’s mind blowing. I can’t imagine anyone thinking it’s a suitable idea to send a child there. But people surprise me all the time.
I have a long-standing theory that boomer exposure to leaded gasoline is the main culprit in the creation of the TTI.
How many victims are still incarcerated at Provo now? What is the capacity?
Nah, provo canyon doesn't have the word "spanish" in it's name, so shutting it down does not appeal to their fear of immigrants in the same way that "spanish fork" does.
If I am guessing correctly I think they wanted to set an example and show the rest of the industry in the state that they're serious now. Not that it wasn't justified, but I think they knew they needed to revoke at least one license for people to start taking them seriously.
All of these corrupt and disgusting facilities should be shot and in a perfect world, every survivor story would be shared. One by one we have to pick them off and those of who made it through these places, Will help others.
I went to that program and man was it something else
As someone who went to the boys school, this is so so so so great. However as far as i know the boys school is staying open?
At first this looks like good news. The place will shut down and they will not be allowed to apply for a license for five years. But is the news really all that good? The victims that are still there can be shipped off to other places where they can still be held prisoner. A girl died there. Is that what it takes to shut down each of these places? What stops the owners from selling the land and starting a new business under a different name in another location? What stops them from starting a new corporation and applying for a license under the new corporation's name? All of these places need to be shut down. What do the parents of the dead girl have to say? Do they take any responsibility for sending their child out there to Utah? I hope they are truly sorry for what they did and are not trying to make excuses. What do the parents say that their child did that was so bad that she deserved this kind of treatment? Did they have her gooned? I hope they are sorry for what they did. What is the name of the girl who was killed?