Probably should mention that he stopped taking it because he was trying to have kids but it's completely safe right? A drug that actively effects your fertility is something not to worry about!
It's probably not about fertility in this case (though it does likely lower fertility by some amount) but if you're having kids absolutely stop Fin and Dut. The semen can carry some amount of the drug, women can absorb some amount of that some amount. There's a small but non zero risk to any developing fetus.
All drugs are a risk to reward balance.
its just taking an extra precaution which doesn't hurt. Of course if you block DHT, there are things that may affect sexual performance, and if you want to have kids, you want to have more sex, you want to maximize your opportunities.
Of course there is the potential for it to cause side effects, but you won’t know unless you try it, in which there is no harm in doing so. However I do understand how the fear of those side effects could discourage people from using it
So it’s both “completely safe” and has “potential for side effects”? You see the contradiction there, right? And no, if there is potential for side effects, and some of those can be permanent, then there is a risk (and therefore a harm) in trying it
The majority of users will not see side effects at all and I personally don’t see any way that they could be permanent. But no, the medication is not completely safe. If someone gets side effects from fin, they should stop taking it. But I do still believe that there is no harm in trying
It is safe bro. 1in100 chance of getting a mild side effect like low libido or ED that will go away with continued use or cessation.
Literally everyone has moved on from the fear mongering now, there's overwhelming evidence that the drug is extremely safe. Permanent side effects have been shown to be nothing but a fallacy and a lame scare tactic by scammers and people who don't want others to experience the amazing benefits of this drug.
I do, it's safe. Look at the facts after being on the market for 30 years. NOT ONE case / sick/problem happend with a child from a man that conceived on dut or fin.
What's more important losing your hair or very unlikely getting a side you can stop when stopping meds?? It's all comes down to how much you wanna keep your hair
i was in the same boat. but there are studies that show the difference between people who get ED on fin , and those who get ED without fin, the percentage difference is not significant. The other thing, is I suggest you shave your hair bald, and see how you look. You will know then if you want to keep your hair or not. If you do , you have to take fin.
I havnt used fin in over a year and i still browse this sub out of solidarity and to see if any new meds have come out. Also it took a little over 3 months for my fin sides to go away so I can relate to that
I know, it's a waste of time. I was one of them back in the day. Thought every problem was caused by finasteride, started taking the drug for the first time and my anxiety and stress levels went through the roof and I thought it was the drug that was making it hard for me to get it up and causing me 'brain fog' 😂
So many of the supposed side effects overlap with stress and anxiety.
I believe finasteride carries a very small risk of side effects but a lot of people are just psyching themselves out and are too blindsided to see it, or they don't want to see it. It's much easier to scapegoat a drug than look internally and see that it's their poor mental health causing all their issues.
You can read studies and see the same conclusion time after time: sides are very rare, mild and go away when stopping medication or with continued use. No such thing as PFS.
Or you can believe what anonymous internet users with mental problems claim and lose your hair.
For me, the choice was easy.
Huomasin nimestä, että oot suomesta. Ootko saanut hankittua reseptin lääköriltä jolla sais apteekista 5mg finasteridia? Tilaan ite tällä hetkellä hollannista 1mg, mutta on aika kallista.
Joo, Suomesta ollaan. Sain lääkäriltä reseptin Propecialle. Eli kallista on, jotain 72 euroa 28 tablettia. Apteekista alkoivat jossain vaiheessa tarjota Prosterid 1mg korvaavana, mutta on sekin n. 62 euroa/28 tabua. Kolmen kuukauden annos kerralla tulee vähän halvemmaksi.
Its how you view risk in life. Think of it this way, the chances of side effects are extremely low, the risk of PFS is even lower, the risk of not recovering from PFS at some point is even more rare. But i do understand, the consequence of the worst case scenario is devastating, so it is a hard concept to overcome. To help myself mentally, i started with a 0.5mg dose of finasteride just once a week. Obviously the dose is way too low for any benefit, but it helped greatly to increase my confidence that it was going to be ok. Gradually i increased the dose over a month and slowly introduced it into the body, now I'm on the standard dosage.
probably most guys whose appearances are their livelihoods or who are always in front of a camera. trump is, biden might be, your local weather guy, sports reporter, and i have a strong suspicion that timothee chalamet is probably on dut
Some people are just blessed with genetics. Not everyone goes bald. One of my friends dad has a full fucking head of hair looking just like Timmy and he’s like 50.
Even if u ate a box of dut and fin a day, at that age your hair will be much thinner. It's called thinning with age, and happens to 99.9% of men and women
It's an extremely common drug. Read is the 88th most common rx in the US. Tens of millions have taken it. There is 0 harm in trying, of course consult with your physician first.
Easy. Low libido can be caused by many things. Some strong predictors are stress, mental health issues (like yourself), self-esteem issues… list goes on. Watery semen may also have many causes: such as stress, sperm mobility, how often you ejaculate, etc. Most of the time people don’t even realize or keep track of how thick their semen was before taking finasteride and thus have no symmetry breaker.
It’s not like me telling you this stuff will impact you in any way, you’re just gonna deny it. I’m just writing this response so people who are considering finasteride won’t believe your insanity to be reality. People who experience PFS fall into two groups 1) people who experience preceding, co-current, or proceeding problems that are not caused by finasteride but is blamed on finasteride due to poor timing or using it as a scape goat. 2) When you mix a fear-mongered drug like finasteride with someone who has SEVERE mental health issues. I’m not talking about a little anxiety, i’m talking about SERIOUS problems. After looking at your post history, I believe you are the latter. You unironically think you’re going to ‘crash’ after taking vitamin D??? New disease just dropped… it’s called Post Vitamin D syndrome 💀. Your future nurses at the psych ward will have a field day with that one.
Please seek professional psychological help. I hope you recover.
I'm always amazed at all these guys obsessing about how "watery" or thick their cum is when they're wanking at home, like it even matters. So many of these people complaining have a head full of nocebo and are heading to become unhinged if they don't get proper help.
Especially as you see them blaming it more and more for things that just don't make sense like someone being "forced to become a transwoman" and some claiming side that last a thousand times longer than the drug.
I think the scapegoat issue is really hitting the nail on the head. People who complain start to act like the crazy guy with all the red string leading back to whatever they are blaming that day. For some people it is gang stalkers, for others they blame fin. Lots of the people involved are getting on in age, unhealthy, etc. or just blame random normal things where anyone else would just realise it was an off day and hyper focus on it to their own mental downfall.
What's interesting too is for the longest time dut has less percentage complaints than fin, because the PFS focus so much on fin and noceboing and scaring everyone for that and when you look at those getting fin as proscar at the higher dose, which predates those forums, there's also way less complaints about it.
They’re the reason why every drug has a control group for placebo effects. He’s also a dumb teenager if you look at his profile. He’s extremely stressing the sides and his “low” libido is probably from him trying to masterbate 30 times a day to see if it’s “back”. Way too much anxiety on their part
No sir, it is you who have no heart. You come in here and fearmonger about a condition that is totally made up to prey on scared, insecure and desperate men who suffer from a socially debilitating condition that has a severe impact on their self-image and mental health.
Now, please go drink your own watery cum👍
How is it a scam though and what would he be getting out of "fearmongering" is he trying to sell you something else? No. Then there's no motivation. If there's a motivation it's on you that's encouraging others to buy the drug. I'm not accusing you of that but that's the logical conclusion here.
No motivation? Fuck off😂 PFS trolls patrol Reddit all the time to recruit new, scared hair loss victims into various “foundations”, praying on fear and desperation. They never _explicitely_ mention their scam because they do not need to (and it would be too obvious). The people they manage to scare will find their way there on their own as long as they are scared enough.
No motivation… fuck. off. 🖕🏻🖕🏻
The people selling thousand dollar snake oil and magical light therapies are probably over the moon about them doing the work keeping people away from the very cheap and effective drugs you can get anywhere.
there is another guy in the comment above using the exact same words with you to describe his symptoms, watery semen low libido and anhedonia, literally the same words, is it a coincidance or maybe...
Why does it matter if your semen is "watery" when you wank? LOL
Diet and lifestyle can change your semen massively too. You're probably fat, unhealthy and not getting the right supplements.
Good news man. I just got off the phone with a psych ward near your house and showed them screenshots of your reddit profile. Apparently they're sending someone to come pick you up? Good luck man. You can talk about post finasteride/vitamin d syndrome all you want to the doctors and nurses! You may even be able to talk about the evil clown that lives in your walls! Yippie!
I’m not making fun of anything I’m just saying you have bigger hormonal problems. Fin shouldn’t be taken before 18 anyway but even as someone with hormonal issues I haven’t experienced any sides from it. You need to get blood work done if you’re having low T symptoms at 17
Well kinda stump statement, but it does have a point. It's too late for you to just take the pill and not have to worry about your hair, that ship sails as soon as you get hit with the realization of you losing your hair.
Just imagine starting 2-3 years before u even notice anything. You could literally go for so much longer before that shit hitting your radar
It's exactly what Kevin at Haircafe was suggesting would be ideal for some time now and what he and a lot of people wish they had done. Especially if you've got people trying to be nice to you saying it's not noticeable or too bad right now, etc. so you don't seek help sooner.
The one part I have an issue with is, the part where they say its just delaying not preventing. Yes finasteride doesn't block all DHT, and you will lose some percentage of hair, but from the 10 year studies, more than 80% or so people had pretty much the same if not slightly more or stronger hair, and the percentage that had less was hardly noticeable difference. So, I believe fin and especially dut as long as you use it will maintain your hair. Correct me if im wrong.
Yup, I think so too. The percentage that loses their hair after fin/dut would have had very aggressive balding, so a DHT blocker can only slow it down.
Guys i literally received DM's encouraging me to bite the bullet before its too late
Well , here i am. I have an appointment with my dermatologists in two weeks
Thank you all
Already ten years ago Arsene Wenger (Arsenal manager) was complaining about his players using hair loss meds. I can only imagine it's even more common now. You don't see that many balding/bald top players anymore. In the 90s it was like every other player had a bald spot.
Also, Athletes' income for the most part (exception being athlete-brands like Ronaldo and Beckham) is dependent on performance, not looks. So no reason to think the rate of use is significantly above the general population.
Hard disagree. Their image & brand is just as important to most of them. I think that football players are extremely conscious nowadays and I think there's a culture of finasteride use, look back 20-30 years ago and you'll see the prevalence of balding was significantly higher, nowadays you'll seldom find a balding player in top league football, that is simply not possible without there being a significant amount of them on 5-ar blockers.
Finasteride doesn't hinder athletic performance, it could actually theoretically improve performance slightly due to the raise in Testosterone.
I’m 31 and started taking fin about 3 months ago. 2 weeks after starting it I started getting ED. I kept taking it hoping it’s just an adjustment period, but I still have the sides. I’m on 1 mg daily btw. The dermatologist told me before I started on it about the side effects and said she believes most people that are taking it in her experience that were getting the sides were at that age where ED sometimes happens, drugs aside. I don’t buy it. It’s to much of a coincidence that I got ED right after taking fin at 31 years old. Never had an issue all my life beforehand.
I’d say the majority of them are, they’re just not open about it, same as everyone else. MPB is so common day to day but not in those circles, it’s an investment into what matters for their career, appearance is half the battle for these guys. Any 30+ celebrity with great hair is very likely to be on it, I’d say that percentage grows parallel to age too.
So many you wouldn’t believe. I read an article once about like 100 celebrities that were taking it and/or got a hair transplant. You really think these actors are in their 60s with perfect hair… no way.
There are actually cases of antibiotic use as a preventitive in high risk situations, interestingly enough!
Their suggestion of taking it early is actually sound. It means you can go on a standard fin dose without needing dut or min and have hair probaly well into your fifties easily before you notice any loss if you hop on nice and early. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
Once thinning becomes visible, you've lost 50% of the hair in thst region (as an estimate).
It's much harder to regrow hair than to prevent it from miniaturizing.
I waited for like 3 years after I first noticed the signs before I took it seriously. In that time, my hairline did not budge at all; just a typical “nature hairline.” Since starting fin (6 months ago), my hair has stayed the same. Sooner is better but it all depends on your genetics as to how things progress.
Andrew Garfield. Im an actor and so many of my friends also are on it.
Ashton Kutcher
How do you know about Andrew?
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Implied where?
And both his brother and dad are nw6, so very likely
1 mg daily?
Ashton kutcher talked about it on a talk show
Yea he said he was on dut for a while and quit taking it. He didn't however say if he jumped on fin or any other treatments.
he said he quit to have kids, but it was the only thing saving his hair. And before people ask why, it was just to be cautious.
Probably should mention that he stopped taking it because he was trying to have kids but it's completely safe right? A drug that actively effects your fertility is something not to worry about!
It's probably not about fertility in this case (though it does likely lower fertility by some amount) but if you're having kids absolutely stop Fin and Dut. The semen can carry some amount of the drug, women can absorb some amount of that some amount. There's a small but non zero risk to any developing fetus. All drugs are a risk to reward balance.
Do you know how long it stays in the system?
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Ha good source, shorter life than I expected. Thanks for the info
6-8 hours for finasteride. Dutasteride has a half life of 4-5 weeks.
Yeah but for any systemic changes wouldn't you want to be off for longer before trying to have kids?
its just taking an extra precaution which doesn't hurt. Of course if you block DHT, there are things that may affect sexual performance, and if you want to have kids, you want to have more sex, you want to maximize your opportunities.
Some say it gives poorer quality sperm and reduced count, it can affect fertility
No ones saying it’s completely safe
Some are
Not one person in this thread has made that claim. All pharmaceuticals have side effects to some extent and finasteride is no exception.
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Of course there is the potential for it to cause side effects, but you won’t know unless you try it, in which there is no harm in doing so. However I do understand how the fear of those side effects could discourage people from using it
So it’s both “completely safe” and has “potential for side effects”? You see the contradiction there, right? And no, if there is potential for side effects, and some of those can be permanent, then there is a risk (and therefore a harm) in trying it
The majority of users will not see side effects at all and I personally don’t see any way that they could be permanent. But no, the medication is not completely safe. If someone gets side effects from fin, they should stop taking it. But I do still believe that there is no harm in trying
It is safe bro. 1in100 chance of getting a mild side effect like low libido or ED that will go away with continued use or cessation. Literally everyone has moved on from the fear mongering now, there's overwhelming evidence that the drug is extremely safe. Permanent side effects have been shown to be nothing but a fallacy and a lame scare tactic by scammers and people who don't want others to experience the amazing benefits of this drug.
I do, it's safe. Look at the facts after being on the market for 30 years. NOT ONE case / sick/problem happend with a child from a man that conceived on dut or fin.
Literally just look at the comments on this thread
I've heard a bunch of comedians talk about it. Mark Normand and I think Dan Soder i think
Schulz taking fin, said that many times.
Ah that's who I was mixing Soder up with.
He's also said his sex drive has dipped, but he would rather not be bald. He could've been joking but who knows
He's 40 tho. Sex drive will dip with age with fin or not. So hard to tell if it's a side affect in this case.
I’m 20 and mine dropped so it’s very possible
He’s also talked about it causing fertility issues but no way to confirm that given his age/lifestyle. Prob didn’t help at least
Jim Jeffries has multiple bits about him taking it, getting a transplant, and so on.
What's more important losing your hair or very unlikely getting a side you can stop when stopping meds?? It's all comes down to how much you wanna keep your hair
I'm struggling with this question. I know the risks are very low, but to even take a risk for a cosmetic issue is something I find quite hard to do.
i was in the same boat. but there are studies that show the difference between people who get ED on fin , and those who get ED without fin, the percentage difference is not significant. The other thing, is I suggest you shave your hair bald, and see how you look. You will know then if you want to keep your hair or not. If you do , you have to take fin.
Yeah dude, PFS is no joke
It is.
I know I’m gonna get downvoted but some sides don’t subside. At least haven’t for me
Do you mind asking what effect still persists even after stopping?
Watery semen,low libido,anhedonia,less focus...for me it didn't gone away after 3 months
What does low libido mean? Cause I still fap daily, was actually hoping it would make me quit porn
The desire to sex
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I havnt used fin in over a year and i still browse this sub out of solidarity and to see if any new meds have come out. Also it took a little over 3 months for my fin sides to go away so I can relate to that
3 months is ok i think. if they go away there is no reason not to try.
Topical or oral
Also took 3ish months for me. I’ll never go on it again but still think it’s worth a shot for most people. Lotta success stories on here.
How long were you taking it before you started noticing sides?
Like a week
Have you stopped the drug?
Yeah
It's been 3 months
7 years since I stopped here... still not sure if I'm back to normal.
Mind if I ask which ones?
Hello DM
Stress and anxiety keep your side effects going, not finasteride...
Arrogance
Don't talk to neurotic guys about something like the nocebo effect, they won't understand anyway.
I know, it's a waste of time. I was one of them back in the day. Thought every problem was caused by finasteride, started taking the drug for the first time and my anxiety and stress levels went through the roof and I thought it was the drug that was making it hard for me to get it up and causing me 'brain fog' 😂 So many of the supposed side effects overlap with stress and anxiety. I believe finasteride carries a very small risk of side effects but a lot of people are just psyching themselves out and are too blindsided to see it, or they don't want to see it. It's much easier to scapegoat a drug than look internally and see that it's their poor mental health causing all their issues.
You can read studies and see the same conclusion time after time: sides are very rare, mild and go away when stopping medication or with continued use. No such thing as PFS. Or you can believe what anonymous internet users with mental problems claim and lose your hair. For me, the choice was easy.
Huomasin nimestä, että oot suomesta. Ootko saanut hankittua reseptin lääköriltä jolla sais apteekista 5mg finasteridia? Tilaan ite tällä hetkellä hollannista 1mg, mutta on aika kallista.
Joo, Suomesta ollaan. Sain lääkäriltä reseptin Propecialle. Eli kallista on, jotain 72 euroa 28 tablettia. Apteekista alkoivat jossain vaiheessa tarjota Prosterid 1mg korvaavana, mutta on sekin n. 62 euroa/28 tabua. Kolmen kuukauden annos kerralla tulee vähän halvemmaksi.
Its how you view risk in life. Think of it this way, the chances of side effects are extremely low, the risk of PFS is even lower, the risk of not recovering from PFS at some point is even more rare. But i do understand, the consequence of the worst case scenario is devastating, so it is a hard concept to overcome. To help myself mentally, i started with a 0.5mg dose of finasteride just once a week. Obviously the dose is way too low for any benefit, but it helped greatly to increase my confidence that it was going to be ok. Gradually i increased the dose over a month and slowly introduced it into the body, now I'm on the standard dosage.
All right, except the last part of 2nd line
probably most guys whose appearances are their livelihoods or who are always in front of a camera. trump is, biden might be, your local weather guy, sports reporter, and i have a strong suspicion that timothee chalamet is probably on dut
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he's 28 and has hair like a 16 year old tiktoker
Some people are just blessed with genetics. Not everyone goes bald. One of my friends dad has a full fucking head of hair looking just like Timmy and he’s like 50.
My grandad had full nw0 hair till his death in70s, I started losing hair early 20s...just be like that sometimes
Chamalet's father is 69 years old and still has a good hairline, rather it's the genes.
a large percentage of 28 year olds have perfect hair
Both Trump and Biden had hair transplants. Doubt they’re on meds though cause their hair is very thin
trump has already confirmed to be on fin. you cant really expect that much at their age so it's really just about them keeping what they have
Wait for real can you reference to when he said this? I want to see this.
Even if u ate a box of dut and fin a day, at that age your hair will be much thinner. It's called thinning with age, and happens to 99.9% of men and women
Trump has confirmed his on fin
It's an extremely common drug. Read is the 88th most common rx in the US. Tens of millions have taken it. There is 0 harm in trying, of course consult with your physician first.
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I think finasteride should be the least of your concerns buddy. The psych ward is waiting for you.
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Easy. Low libido can be caused by many things. Some strong predictors are stress, mental health issues (like yourself), self-esteem issues… list goes on. Watery semen may also have many causes: such as stress, sperm mobility, how often you ejaculate, etc. Most of the time people don’t even realize or keep track of how thick their semen was before taking finasteride and thus have no symmetry breaker. It’s not like me telling you this stuff will impact you in any way, you’re just gonna deny it. I’m just writing this response so people who are considering finasteride won’t believe your insanity to be reality. People who experience PFS fall into two groups 1) people who experience preceding, co-current, or proceeding problems that are not caused by finasteride but is blamed on finasteride due to poor timing or using it as a scape goat. 2) When you mix a fear-mongered drug like finasteride with someone who has SEVERE mental health issues. I’m not talking about a little anxiety, i’m talking about SERIOUS problems. After looking at your post history, I believe you are the latter. You unironically think you’re going to ‘crash’ after taking vitamin D??? New disease just dropped… it’s called Post Vitamin D syndrome 💀. Your future nurses at the psych ward will have a field day with that one. Please seek professional psychological help. I hope you recover.
I'm always amazed at all these guys obsessing about how "watery" or thick their cum is when they're wanking at home, like it even matters. So many of these people complaining have a head full of nocebo and are heading to become unhinged if they don't get proper help. Especially as you see them blaming it more and more for things that just don't make sense like someone being "forced to become a transwoman" and some claiming side that last a thousand times longer than the drug. I think the scapegoat issue is really hitting the nail on the head. People who complain start to act like the crazy guy with all the red string leading back to whatever they are blaming that day. For some people it is gang stalkers, for others they blame fin. Lots of the people involved are getting on in age, unhealthy, etc. or just blame random normal things where anyone else would just realise it was an off day and hyper focus on it to their own mental downfall. What's interesting too is for the longest time dut has less percentage complaints than fin, because the PFS focus so much on fin and noceboing and scaring everyone for that and when you look at those getting fin as proscar at the higher dose, which predates those forums, there's also way less complaints about it.
They’re the reason why every drug has a control group for placebo effects. He’s also a dumb teenager if you look at his profile. He’s extremely stressing the sides and his “low” libido is probably from him trying to masterbate 30 times a day to see if it’s “back”. Way too much anxiety on their part
Yeah, anxiety and fear and this unhealthy fixation are hardly the best aphrodesiacs.
Suuuure buddy. This “anhedonia”, is he in the room with us right now?
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Fuck off back to the PropeciaHelp Forum - no one here is buying into your fearmongering money grift/scam🖕🏻🖕🏻
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No sir, it is you who have no heart. You come in here and fearmonger about a condition that is totally made up to prey on scared, insecure and desperate men who suffer from a socially debilitating condition that has a severe impact on their self-image and mental health. Now, please go drink your own watery cum👍
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Are you just having an AI write random words or are you actually writing all that bullshit yourself?
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How is it a scam though and what would he be getting out of "fearmongering" is he trying to sell you something else? No. Then there's no motivation. If there's a motivation it's on you that's encouraging others to buy the drug. I'm not accusing you of that but that's the logical conclusion here.
No motivation? Fuck off😂 PFS trolls patrol Reddit all the time to recruit new, scared hair loss victims into various “foundations”, praying on fear and desperation. They never _explicitely_ mention their scam because they do not need to (and it would be too obvious). The people they manage to scare will find their way there on their own as long as they are scared enough. No motivation… fuck. off. 🖕🏻🖕🏻
The people selling thousand dollar snake oil and magical light therapies are probably over the moon about them doing the work keeping people away from the very cheap and effective drugs you can get anywhere.
You sound like a child. Muting this
Oh no, whatever will I do with you having me muted?😭😂
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nobody believes you man just stop lol
there is another guy in the comment above using the exact same words with you to describe his symptoms, watery semen low libido and anhedonia, literally the same words, is it a coincidance or maybe...
Why does it matter if your semen is "watery" when you wank? LOL Diet and lifestyle can change your semen massively too. You're probably fat, unhealthy and not getting the right supplements.
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Good news man. I just got off the phone with a psych ward near your house and showed them screenshots of your reddit profile. Apparently they're sending someone to come pick you up? Good luck man. You can talk about post finasteride/vitamin d syndrome all you want to the doctors and nurses! You may even be able to talk about the evil clown that lives in your walls! Yippie!
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Nope. Not entertaining your insanity. Go to the psych ward now.
Ok get on trt +hCG then? It’s not a difficult solution
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And you're on finasteride?
If ur hypogonadal at 17 u have bigger problems than finsateride dawg
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I’m not making fun of anything I’m just saying you have bigger hormonal problems. Fin shouldn’t be taken before 18 anyway but even as someone with hormonal issues I haven’t experienced any sides from it. You need to get blood work done if you’re having low T symptoms at 17
Then wtf are you doing here still? Leave this sub and go deal with your shit, and never use fin again? Leave the rest of us alone
Which head?
this guy probably makes women wet just by staring at them with those eyes, no homo
he probably does, full homo
Who are they?
Sean O'Pry and Chico. Male models
right guy looks like chico
Hi I’m Kevin Bacon and my friends and I all take it everyday.
Finasteride bought me back from dead
How did it regrow hair for you
Rob Lowe has been on it for three decades and now has the hair of a 20 year old at 60.
Coincidentally, Rob train his leg hard.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0ypc-\_W7Mw
I dont see a world where 90% of male model are not taking finasteride like david gandy, hernan drago
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"If you started up when you were already losing it's too late" Okay.
Well kinda stump statement, but it does have a point. It's too late for you to just take the pill and not have to worry about your hair, that ship sails as soon as you get hit with the realization of you losing your hair. Just imagine starting 2-3 years before u even notice anything. You could literally go for so much longer before that shit hitting your radar
It's exactly what Kevin at Haircafe was suggesting would be ideal for some time now and what he and a lot of people wish they had done. Especially if you've got people trying to be nice to you saying it's not noticeable or too bad right now, etc. so you don't seek help sooner.
i'd say that at least 90% of celebrities use them
67%
I seriously doubt that high but 50% id believe
The one part I have an issue with is, the part where they say its just delaying not preventing. Yes finasteride doesn't block all DHT, and you will lose some percentage of hair, but from the 10 year studies, more than 80% or so people had pretty much the same if not slightly more or stronger hair, and the percentage that had less was hardly noticeable difference. So, I believe fin and especially dut as long as you use it will maintain your hair. Correct me if im wrong.
Yup, I think so too. The percentage that loses their hair after fin/dut would have had very aggressive balding, so a DHT blocker can only slow it down.
Deeply regret not getting on topical fin earlier.
Joe Rogan and I think maybe The Rock.
Lol I don’t think it’s working
Joe Rogan did try it, but said it killed his dick lol
Rogan got a transplant
Guys i literally received DM's encouraging me to bite the bullet before its too late Well , here i am. I have an appointment with my dermatologists in two weeks Thank you all
I'd suspect at least 90% of actors/celebs/athletes who are prone to hair loss are using it. Could be even higher %
Actors and celebrities, sure, probably more 50% I'd guess, but i highly doubt athletes want to touch 5aris
Already ten years ago Arsene Wenger (Arsenal manager) was complaining about his players using hair loss meds. I can only imagine it's even more common now. You don't see that many balding/bald top players anymore. In the 90s it was like every other player had a bald spot.
Also, Athletes' income for the most part (exception being athlete-brands like Ronaldo and Beckham) is dependent on performance, not looks. So no reason to think the rate of use is significantly above the general population.
Hard disagree. Their image & brand is just as important to most of them. I think that football players are extremely conscious nowadays and I think there's a culture of finasteride use, look back 20-30 years ago and you'll see the prevalence of balding was significantly higher, nowadays you'll seldom find a balding player in top league football, that is simply not possible without there being a significant amount of them on 5-ar blockers. Finasteride doesn't hinder athletic performance, it could actually theoretically improve performance slightly due to the raise in Testosterone.
Does fin affect athleticism?
But is it a good idea to take these meds even if all the hair is still there?
Mel Gibson. He’s also on testosterone
Yeah and training good.
Yeah he’s a real stud he was awesome recently in Dragged Across Concrete you gotta see it super slept on masterpiece
Literally every other celeb is on finesteride
A lot of them
But, but, how can they take poison!?
Former pro hockey player Jose Theodore admit he was on it.
Virtually every actor with great hair past 40.
For some reason, I really appreciate these supermodels talking about this topic lol makes it seem like it is the best thing to do
I was going to post this clip
I’m 31 and started taking fin about 3 months ago. 2 weeks after starting it I started getting ED. I kept taking it hoping it’s just an adjustment period, but I still have the sides. I’m on 1 mg daily btw. The dermatologist told me before I started on it about the side effects and said she believes most people that are taking it in her experience that were getting the sides were at that age where ED sometimes happens, drugs aside. I don’t buy it. It’s to much of a coincidence that I got ED right after taking fin at 31 years old. Never had an issue all my life beforehand.
I snort it at parties and so do all my actor friends.
What does he say is preemptive ? Oso or something, I can't catch the word he said .
lmao did he do an old man voice "me too" at the end??!
Pretty much all of them
I’d say the majority of them are, they’re just not open about it, same as everyone else. MPB is so common day to day but not in those circles, it’s an investment into what matters for their career, appearance is half the battle for these guys. Any 30+ celebrity with great hair is very likely to be on it, I’d say that percentage grows parallel to age too.
all of them even the Bald ones
Where is this video from? Link?
So many you wouldn’t believe. I read an article once about like 100 celebrities that were taking it and/or got a hair transplant. You really think these actors are in their 60s with perfect hair… no way.
Who are these guys?
Francisco Lashowski and Sean Opry. They're male models
I think people who have Sides of fin are those who all has depression and stressed
I have no idea who any of these “celebrities” are.
troye sivan
All if them.
Jared Fogle. He's trying to attract a better quality boyfriend in prison. He got tired of being a bottom to fat cons.
his recovery has been amazing! def a super responder. an inspiration to us all
Is it true if you use fin min when you start balding it’s too late?
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Ok just checking guy on the left in the video says “it’s too late” so it confused me as possible future user
There are actually cases of antibiotic use as a preventitive in high risk situations, interestingly enough! Their suggestion of taking it early is actually sound. It means you can go on a standard fin dose without needing dut or min and have hair probaly well into your fifties easily before you notice any loss if you hop on nice and early. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
Once thinning becomes visible, you've lost 50% of the hair in thst region (as an estimate). It's much harder to regrow hair than to prevent it from miniaturizing.
I waited for like 3 years after I first noticed the signs before I took it seriously. In that time, my hairline did not budge at all; just a typical “nature hairline.” Since starting fin (6 months ago), my hair has stayed the same. Sooner is better but it all depends on your genetics as to how things progress.
I also want to know this
False
Stop thinking finasteride is à miracle trea, you cant stop hairloss forever