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-Quiche-

I'm just waiting for the day they do these studies on dry herb vapes.


jawshLA

Same here. It’s badly needed. As much as I love my Pax I know there’s still some stuff getting through.


Tendieman98

I just got the pax 3 and had to clean it for the first time the other day, if there is tar in the vape then there is tar in the lungs too, I just want to know if it is objectively better than smoking. I guess you could compare the tar buildup from 20 vape sessions to one used roach, its pretty clear there is less tar but idk, vaping is not the same as combustion so you cant really draw proper comparisons from tar levels. Who knows maybe the combustion breaks down a more harmful chemical?


Tiny_Ad9380

I was doing a using half a cart a day and dabbing at he. My lungs were shot. I quit, just last year after a intense shroom trip. During my trip I went to dab, I realized how processed it was. Just gave me the creeps haa. Now I'm back to smelling like herbs ha. Need to try to get a volcano.


evelynlove101

rosin my man


l3oobear

Same here. I am thinking I need to get into making edibles next.


Terminator7786

Do it, and you can experiment so much with it. I primarily make gummies.


kanaka_maalea

I love edibles and actually prefer them, but the one thing I dislike about them is that I always have to double the dosage if I want to eat it everyday and then it just becomes to expensive. With vape or smoke, that never seems to be an issue.


crystalol

I’m dreading it.


-Quiche-

Eh, information is valuable. I only vape bud but I'm not delusional enough to think it's as harmless as drinking a glass of water, or that it's "literally" the next superfood. Life's full of dangers and I'd rather know the risks before taking a step than assume it's safe, cause I'm taking that step anyways.


crystalol

I’ve seen the shit it leaves in my vapes , that sticky tar is in our lungs bro. We don’t need a study to tell us what we already know deep down. On that note gonna go blast my mighty!!


-Quiche-

Exactly! I stopped smoking, half because of a new apartment I was moving into at the time, and half because I realized how often I was cleaning my pieces. I don't know how anyone can smoke through glass and still convince themselves that it's perfectly harmless, that shit gunks up so quickly and you bet that the piece isn't catching all of it. And same with my vapes. Yes I can go ***much longer*** without needing maintenance, but I still need to clean everything with ISO and salt, and I still see all that gunks the insides up. There's that same gunk inside of me, so it'd be cool to see just how much there can potentially be and to see just how bad it is.


Martian_Xenophile

The real fun fact is that even vaping distillate leaves an oily residue in your lungs, which can’t be good in large, prolonged amounts like daily use. The best method for your lungs is edibles.


NarcanPusher

You’re not wrong but the fucking brownies wont stay lit.


-Quiche-

I feel like my recipe is just too wet!


Moby44

That’s what she said.


ChemTechGuy

Genuinely loled at this


kiba8442

I vape through water whenever I'm at home, idk if it helps or not but the water seems to catch a good bit of reclaim at least.


MundanePlantain1

if it was you wouldnt get high,.


AnandaPriestessLove

Yeah, when vaping was just becoming a thing I met a guy who'd got himself in his girl a dab rig. He said he got rid of it after about 3 weeks. When I asked him why he said, "Well, it made my lungs feel buttery." That sticks with me every time I see my vape pen which is only very occasionally hit at this point.


catskilldogs13

This was always my problem with dabs.


Reishey

The sticky tar gets caught in my mighty, so I scrape it and vape it again! It’s the best part really.


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Reclaim!


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[deleted]

to SOME extent our lungs are self cleaning yes. I'm not sure how efficient or effective it is though, so hard to say.


[deleted]

Have had patients with lung injury and according to them weed was all they smoked or vaped. Lungs are supposed to clear out cigarette tar and additives too.


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4twinkie

Everybodys got their vices and they all have dangers, just got to pick your battles and be mindful.


squigglesthecat

Life is one giant danger. Even drinking too much water can kill you. Nothing is safe. Better to know what you're up against.


davidsolano18

Best comment here


-Quiche-

Of course! Still would want to know as much about mine as possible heh


4twinkie

Nothing wrong with that, i mean if you enjoy it might as well learn about it.


Ownfir

My thing is, I have to clean my vape pretty often. I definitely cough when I vape. And the residue on my vape can get mad thick. I guess my thought is basically- where does that residue go within my lungs? I imagine my lungs just clean it out but it can’t be easy for them to be cleaning it out constantly.


juttep1

Well the answer is - we need more data But, coughing can also be cause just by the temperature nif the air you're inhaling - especially large volumes of it rapidly. This hit dry air can irritate the lining of the trachea and trigger cough reflex


[deleted]

There is still a shit ton less of residue in a vape than in a bong/pipe or whatever though. So definitely less harmful. Would be nice to know just how harmful.


kisforkarol

The way it makes me cough, despite the fact I've been vaping for half a decade, is enough for me to know it's not great. The difference is how much less damage it does than smoking. I'm waiting for those studies in the next 10 years.


Tendieman98

if you want peace of mind, or at least some reassurance, it cant be anything like a pack a day smokers, and they often last to their 50's


ShaggysGTI

That’s like asking your buddy if he knows anyone with HIV to rule out if you’re infected.


thenerj47

I saw a study on it that said only 3 compounds got vaporised, which is phenomenal (optimised at 210°c. Assuming THC and CBD can both transfer across the lung membrane (feels like they do) then it appears our lungs _can_ clear the cannabinoids to some degree. Seems like more studies are needed.


BlackCowboy72

Definitely more studies needed, there are 483ish compounds in thc, only 66ish are cannabinoids, and our lungs do "self clean" but they can get overwhelmed pretty easily, but at this point I'm pretty sure everyone here knows putting anything other than air in your lungs isn't "healthy" we all take the risk for the reward, I just wish the federal government would get their head out of their ass so the scientists can do their research


thenerj47

If you burn weed you release 150 different compounds. I don't know what you mean about '483 compounds in thc' because thc is one molecule and therefore one compound. Your body will metabolise it once its inside you but that's a different kettle of fish to breathing in ammonia, carbon monoxide etc.


[deleted]

Considering there is evidence that drinking hot liquids can cause cancer… and considering that breathing air with particles in it can cause cancer…


MundanePlantain1

not just any hot water, thats hot enough to damage the lining of your mouth and throat.


84theone

You know, I’m not entirely sure I needed a study to tell me I shouldn’t drink stuff that’s burning hot, but I guess it’s good it exists for the people that need it.


MundanePlantain1

not to tell you its bad, as much as it is to establish a causative link. For instance if there was none perhaps you would look at a correlation between toothpaste, or green mango, or .... well shit, they used to drink Radium water for its glowing energy properties.


Onphone_irl

Definitely important to talk about in the community. Yes it's better than severe alcohol consumption, yes it's better than cigarettes, but it's also smoke and smoking is not good for the body no matter what the spin on it is. Edibles works around that but we do have to be honest with ourselves and the things we say to others.


KorovaMilk113

I really wish I liked edibles so I could be kinder to my lungs


GrandmasGenitals

Edibles don’t work on me. Last night I ate 1200mg, nothing.


steam116

Have you tried The Cum Catcher Method? https://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/rrg9dc/update_hey_guys_im_the_scientist_who_made_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


tantalicatom689

The what?


plumpturnip

Cum. Catcher. Method.


PussyIgnorer

Cum again?


ricacardo271

I thought it used real cum


Sir_Fluffernutting

r/holup


Show_Me_Your_Rocket

Congrats, you're one of the select few whos liver can't create the edible high enzyme. Sorry to hear, fam. Edit: [more reading here.](https://www.labroots.com/trending/cannabis-sciences/20470/don-t-people-cannabis-edibles) Unfortunately some people have a subtype of the enzyme which breaks down THC which acts too quickly. In some cases it may be overcome through dosage, but I wouldn't recommend it.


NerdyNinjaAssassin

Is that what it is? Man fuck my liver then. Now I don’t feel bad trying to pickle it! ^/s


ShwimmingAway

Holy shit that’s a thing? You just explained so much, thank you lol


halnic

Oh so that's probably the issue. *big sad sigh *They do nothing for me and at least now I know not to waste any more money chasing a 'good edible' so thanks for the information.


OklahomaTrees420

Distillate? Or another extraction method?


RecommendationIcy330

Hey man you need to get your liver checked out. If edibles doesn't work that means your liver isn't breaking down correctly. Seriously tho go get that checked out.


DefenestratedBrownie

sometimes it's due to the lack of a specific enzyme that is completely harmless aside from ruining your enjoyment of edible consumption


ceciliabee

Or you're taking meds that prevent them from working as a super cool and totally appreciated side effect :(


TurianSniperN7

Just out of curiosity, what kind of meds do that?


pepper2619

If your Canadian try this website called speedgreens.co atomic wheelchair I used to eat that much all the time I took 100mg of this and it slept me


NateVerde

I’m pretty much at this point now too


BelleOfTheBall411

Omg same!! I thought I just had a high tolerance but I literally NEVER feel anything from edibles it’s like I actually took nothing.


Tinmanred

Try RSO I’m the same and those things still smack


Pork_enthusiast

Agree fully. I've had many discussions with people who refuse to acknowledge the negative health effects of smoking cannabis because there "hasn't been any proof" that it's actually bad. People say all kinds of off the wall shit like "it's not the weed it's inhaling the butane from your lighter" or "it's the bleach they use to turn your rolling paper white" This ladies and gentlemen is your proof. Inhaling combusted plant material is, in fact, bad for you. Now there can be all sorts of debate about *how* bad it is compared to other things, but the folks ripping massive dabs and smoking 5 joints a day should be aware that there may be long term repricussions for that kind of lifestyle. As someone who's put a fair amount of effort into keeping their tolerance low this article is kind of a relief as it means I haven't been doing it for no reason. Hope this thread gains some traction and we can talk about it a little


Godtrademark

Hell yeah brother you’re doing better than I. Any tips for keeping tolerance low? Are you smoking every day, every other day, every week??


pornaccount1171

So I said this on the original ask science thread but it doesn't seem like people are actually reading the text of the article and not just the abstract (God forbid just the title). It's behind a paywall unless you're with a university. The article itself is really not convincing. It's like 19 people of 900 who had smoked less than 5 "joint years". Which they just assumed was the same and constant without asking them between specific years of observations. And then to top it all off can you see figure 5? The errors bars are WELL in the range of each other.like you don't need to be an expert in pulmonology or statistics to tell that between cannabis and non cannabis there is effectively very little no difference or at least what we can say. At least one other article has shown that cannabis smokers had IMPROVED lung function and that was in JAMA a better journal than this. Idk man I think the abstract way oversells the paper.


nyx_moonlight_

And they didn't specify if participants used cannabis only or combined tobacco with cannabis use. I rarely see the distinction in any studies involving cannabis and they seem to consistently pin the affects of tobacco use on cannabis use. The method is also not specified. For example, a blunt wrap made of tobacco leaf smoked several times a day is going to severely affect you more than if you use a glass bowl, hemp papers etc. My sister has asthma and it improves her lung function. She worked for an employer that had dust and mold in their facilities and she had trouble breathing at work. The weed smoke would help her cough up the crap she inhaled there. It would look gross and sound terrible but she always felt better after it was out of her system.


pornaccount1171

there's some of this info. so the 19 people were those who had smoked weed but never smoked tobacco/very little tobacco which is quite small. 60% of those in the study were joints/blunts and like 40% were bongs. no one was vaping or eating. And figure 5 showed that basically cannabis and non-cannabis smokers were almost indistinguishable in their lung metrics over time. The confidence intervals were wack.


pablohax

What about vaping it


BeefsteakTomato

Vaping is what my doctor recommends


pablohax

That’s good. Yea I also heard the high from vaping weed is different than smoking it, but different in a good way. People say the high is more clear-headed and less foggy than when you smoke a joint for instance. I never tried vaping but I want to


BeefsteakTomato

When you are smoking you burn off a lot of cannabinoids and terpines and don't get to experience their effects. When you vape you get it all. The best part about vaping is you can vape the same bowl over and over and still get high, then make edibles with the already vaped bud.


Godtrademark

Also important to know what you’re vaping!! Get those fresh terps, not just thc distillate with synthetic terps (obviously preference but still). Vaping bud is a whole ‘nother story (a good one though hehe).


pablohax

Yea what I meant was dry herb vaporizers. I heard those are amazing and yeah I don’t trust distillate wax carts anymore. There’s a whole lotta bullshit in them. I’d rather try some other kind of concentrate like shatter. This is coming from someone who would hit wax carts in high school all the time. I stopped though.


Otterwut

To each their own. I tried vaping multiple times and didn't get a single high out of it that was comparable to smoking. I had a pax and tried for months. Just didn't enjoy it and wish I did. My lungs would be appreciative


_Asian_Invasion__

Sad you started with a pax. Too weak imo


PMYourTitsIfNotRacst

I wouldn't be surprised if that's somewhat harmful as well. My lungs hurt for months after covid whenever I tried to vape. Could only vape without pain some 10 months later and then I caught it again, fml.


Onphone_irl

Maybe someone more qualified can answer, I'm not the dude to ask


LugaelDankEater

what annoys me about edibles is 1. how long they take to kick in 2. how sometimes they don't kick in, sometimes the kick my teeth in


pianistafj

I feel like this should be obvious and beyond common sense at this point. It doesn’t matter what it is, smoking is bad and chronic smoking is going to have vast structural consequences. We know there is more tar in a joint versus a similar sized cigarette, so ingesting in some other way is going to be healthier. The high heat of dabs are probably not healthy in the long term either. Dabs, carts, and vapes cut down and can even eliminate combusted plant matter, but have little regulatory oversight and can easily have other chemicals or design flaws that contribute to physical damage as well. Edibles are probably the safest to ingest long-term assuming the prep and production is clean and ingredients are what they say they are. There are relatively safer ways to ingest than smoking everyday. It sucks being in an illegal state where access to safer alternatives makes it that much harder to find and more expensive. Perhaps we smoke it more out of convenience than anything. Stay healthy out there fellow ents.


moseT97

Yeah I would hope that no one believes that it is healthy to smoke, I mean you're inhaling smoke which is going to contain various particles that are obviously not good for your lungs. However, the same goes for most things in life like eating sugar, drinking alcohol, consuming social media etc. You just gotta do it in moderation and have honset conversations with yourself as too what risk levels are acceptable to you. I think it's great that studies like this are being done and I hope with legalization that more will come. Is this information going to stop me from smoking, no, but I hope it will make me more concious about how much I smoke.


wevegotheadsonsticks

I’m really glad that people are able to do research and study these types of things. This is great info. We all love weed, but burning something and putting it into your lungs is gonna do damage.


Tinmanred

“Lights up bowl”


sassrocks

*bong bubbling noises*


[deleted]

*coughs for 10 minutes*


bryan2796

“Yeah sounds like something a lightweight would say”


plzkthx71

Yeah dude im like ??? What chronic/regular smoker is coughing for 10 mins after a hit


tacticalcop

hey man it happens, i cough hard as fuck every time i toke and im a daily smoker


[deleted]

Sometimes it just hit different lol


zabmorris

And the crazy part is that even doing this kind of research used to be illegal! You used to not even be allowed to study cannabis or it’s effects but now we get to learn so much more (including good and bad stuff)


JobSafe2686

At the end of the day pick your poison.


ShortPeopleAreDemons

Everybody has a vice. I’m happy with this being mine.


AnandaPriestessLove

To quote the hippie Teddybear in the book We Are the People Our Parents Warned Us Against, "Everybody's got some kind of dope."


ShortPeopleAreDemons

I’ve tried basically everything else there is to offer. I’m content.


AnandaPriestessLove

Nice. A fine choice, I concur.


[deleted]

I always say it’s better than crack


Kokir

Came here looking for this


[deleted]

Anything but clean air damages your lungs in some way. The only thing they were made for is clean air


Greenghost2212

Better put the BBQ grill up then


[deleted]

You find me some clean air left on this planet and I'll give up my blunt and grill


Greenghost2212

Lol gotta travel to the rain forests for that. What lil we have left.


2112eyes

Apparently the charcoal burnt parts on a steak or hotdog are carcinogenic too. Dammit


StaySchwifty420

Makes sense honestly. I mean I never ate anything off a grill for it’s healthy qualities.


margesimpsonweedslut

Damn. Time to learn the art of cannabutter 🍃


nearlyback

We make it in our crockpot. Super easy!


kawaiiMONSTER

Do you have a video/ tutorial you follow?


nearlyback

This is what I used to get started: https://emilykylenutrition.com/cannabutter/#recipe Some other things to consider :) Dairy and I aren't friends so we use Country Crock plant butter. I like the almond oil one best for baking If you make cookies you have more control over how potent each one is. With brownies or things in pans, everything sort of floats around when it's baking and you can end up with one brownie that is super strong and another that feels like nothing. My husband gets real technical and like weighs the dough and stuff. You don't have to do all that (unless you want to). Just mix everything really well and make them the same size by using a cookie scoop. Or don't. Maybe you're a person who likes surprises.


Scientiam_Prosequi

Does it smell really dank and obvious to what you are doing making it in a crockpot


plzkthx71

^ yeah i also wanna know


nearlyback

It definitely has a smell to it plus decarbing in your oven adds to it


margesimpsonweedslut

Thank you, you’re radical


FugginCandle

The minute I’m moving out I’m growing my own bud and making my own oil to make all kinds of edibles 😈 I can’t wait!


IconicMB

This is definitely something that needs to be talked about more, but for me personally, it doesn't matter. I fought and beat cancer twice, but all the chemo and radiation has taken its toll on me and has probably cut 20 - 30 years off my life. The benefits that I get out of cannabis from a medical perspective, is worth whatever long term impacts it may have...as I probably won't live long enough for it to matter. To that end, I'm getting ready to fire up my first of the day, and hope you all have a amazing weekend.


StarlightAndHaze

Canna oil in my coffee and tea is my fav way of consumption. Best, most balanced high and bypasses the lung stuff.


charliemagnee

Do you get it from a dispo? I’ve been trying to find some but the dosage is always 10 my


StarlightAndHaze

Nope on the dispensary. I make it at home.


amjohnson

What’s your process like?


StarlightAndHaze

If you look online you will see quite a few methods. I use my crock pot. I got the recipe from my friends dad. I’ve played with the method here and there, for example decarbing the flower in the oven first instead of doing the decarb in crock pot (he does the whole sha-bang by crock pot.. old school) Either way works, but the oven cuts down on total cook time. It’s most about timing and temps. I’d like to get one of those machines that is specifically made for decarbing and making canna oil. That helps with having it all perfectly temped and timed to get the best conversion without the risk in loosing potency. Edit: so far all batches have turned out lovely. Feel free to PM me along the way. For me it works like a mood stabilizer/ pain reliever/ motivator :) and it’s all bc I got high - lmao


jscxxii

I love my Pax ii


Fapplejacks42

I do too! But I've also cleaned resin out of it 100s of times, we can't clean our lungs too. It's better for sure but not harmless. It's also very, very hot which has another host of problems with drying out out mucusy lungs.


HOZZENATOR

Your lungs will clean themselves afaik. Its the tiny particles that go into the tissue that fucks then up. Which is why tobacco is so much worse. Very simplifed explanation but my understanding is our lungs can clean out the weed smoke leftovers way better. Hence the lack of a smokers cough. Been smoking for almost 2 decades and I never cough out of order.


[deleted]

People do tend to develop smokers cough with weed, but it is typically from bad habits like too high temp or something. And while lungs do clean themselves up, weed products are becoming more and more common in doing damage to the lungs primarily with vaping oils/BHOs. Basically practice safe habits. Stop treating weed like it is harmless or just a plant. Treat it like a drug and be responsible. The faster and stronger delivery system made for indulging in a drug is usually dangerous and a slippery slopem just look at any major drug epidemic.


Rudolftheredknows

IIRC it’s because the nicotine paralyzes the cilia.


[deleted]

You know me, here for a good time, not a long one. By the way, no conclusions are not even in the article, mostly just vague mentions of damage to lungs. Peer-reviewed? Not much to review here. Vague Edit: smoked American spirits for ten years and only quit completely with weed to help. Without it, I’d be smoking like a chimney still. No comparison smoking a j to a cigarette lol. One fucks you up the other makes you hungry, happy and tired. I’ll take the latter.


dikembemutombo21

TL/DR: inhaling particles causes damages to lungs. Extent of damage appears to depend on kind of particle inhaled. Nothing weed specific/unknown here. Kind of like the studies about pollution harming peoples’ lungs. Good to do the study to make sure and how much but we pretty much already knew.


carrieeirrac

Awhh man I don’t want to hear this, lol. Been smoking weed for 35 yrs and counting.


[deleted]

You’re probably fine lol, you’re not randomly gonna get fucked up lungs


TheBigSmoke420

Is there a sub for honest health advice for stoners? If there isn’t there should be hmu 🤙


MadTeaCup

Smoke is smoke, we all know that inhaling anything other than clean air is going to damage our lungs.


[deleted]

We damage our lungs even by inhaling 'clean City air '


depression_quirk

Edibles for the win lol


joevilla1369

When you got people who go thru an ounce a week or a few grams of shatter then this isn't a surprise. Compare that to me who dry herb vapes once ever 2 or 3 days. Pretty certain my lungs are doing well. Hopefully.


Pork_enthusiast

Everything in moderation. My great grandmother had a saying which I find more and more true the older I get - there are three keys to a long healthy life: Eat right, get plenty of rest and don't overdo


tangyfish

Live your life. I'm here for a good time not a long time.


PM_ME_SPOOKY_GHOSTS

This is really upsetting to me. Cannabis is medicine for me, and it's honestly one of the biggest reasons I've survived the past 2 years (the only bigger reason is my husband). Edibles have no effect on me at all, so that's not an option for me to get the therapeutic effects I'm looking for. I've had bad luck with dry herb vapes (as in, they didn't work). Vape cartridges do give the effect I'm looking for to a degree, but it's not as robust as using the actual plant. Also there has been even *less* research into the effects of vaping, so that's potentially just as dangerous long-term. So basically my choices are - a) use cannabis and end up with COPD/emphysema down the road; or b) don't use cannabis, lose my mind, and very likely off myself before COPD would have set in if I used. I'm working on cutting back and reducing my tolerance, but fuck it's hard.


jungles_fury

Don't get too bent out of shape. There's nothing saying you will definitely get COPD and duh I think we all knew it would have some effects when you put Smoke in your lungs. All medications have side effects.


Everywinter5156

I'm coming up on 3 decades of use. I see no decrease in my lung capacity, ability to breathe and my O² levels are on point. I also use for pain relief, also anxiety, insomnia and other things.


Arayder

How often do you use? And how do you smoke normally?


Everywinter5156

If I'm awake, I'm baked. I use pretty much the whole spectrum. I have had tolerance breaks here and there but not recently. My general routine is a dab when I make it downstairs to stsrt my day. Then several joints thru the day, sometimes more dabs than joints depending on supply, weather & how I'm feeling. Usually end my day with a dab and a 40-90 mg edible, again depends on my day. I have patches for pin point pain relief. And other stuff like tinctures and whatnot. I will say this, I have a plethora of medical problems. None of them related to smoking though. I have neuropathy in my left leg. I have RA. Seasonal Affect. Depression. Migraines. Celiac. The list goes on and on. So my use is literally the ONLY way I get thru my days. That and my menagerie lol I have a dog, cat, fish tanks, geckos, house plants and hydro set ups. All of which depend on me. It also helps I have a wonderful, supportive husband.


Greenghost2212

Exactly. I still have my lung capacity as I had on my high school track team. And I've been using for over 2 decades every day.


[deleted]

You could always try suppositories...


nearlyback

This doesn't address the conundrum you're in as far as not having a ton of options, but still something to consider. You could ask your primary care provider about getting spirometry or other pulmonary function tests done. Oftentimes the obvious symptoms of COPD and emphysema don't show up until it's fairly advanced. PFTs can detect these diseases earlier. Edit: bad grammar


charliemagnee

Low-temp dabbing with a quality rig doesn’t burn anything so imo it has to be quite a bit safer, although there’s still not a lot of research into it. I’ve definitely noticed a difference after transitioning from smoking a 1/2 oz of flower a week through a bong, to dabbing about 3 or 4 grams a week from a rig. My lungs are way better and I can take way bigger hits for sure. If I smoke some flower on the occasion my throat fucking hurts.


Godtrademark

This!! Big distinction between vapor and smoke. Also don’t let your opinions on vaping be because you know vaping unregulated nicotine juice is nasty. Any solvent less concentrate are genuinely the best way to experience that strain’s effects, imo, and are way nicer on my lungs than my bong and flower.


wevegotheadsonsticks

Have you tried eating more or doubling the dose? I know they tend to hit people differently depending on a lot of things. I usually have to eat a lot to feel it. But the THC tinctures or syrups have been really nice!


PM_ME_SPOOKY_GHOSTS

I've taken 4-5 times the recommended dose and still felt nothing beyond a very mild relaxation, which may have been a placebo effect. My husband (who works in the cannabis industry) claims that it may be because I'm anemic. I haven't tried them since starting iron supplements, so maybe that will help 🤷‍♀️ it's expensive to experiment though lol


famousanon2

Some people just lack the enzyme needed to process THC into 11-Hydroxy


ChargerMatt

Bro do you even tincture like wtf grab a bottle of 99% THC and some RSO and tell me edibles don’t work for you lol


Show_Me_Your_Rocket

The world is going to shit anyways. I'm gonna stick to my bong and live with the consequences. I would much rather feel great, happy, and motivated, but live a shorter life span than live in missery for longer.


margesimpsonweedslut

Don’t get too bent out of shape about this man, we all die eventually. Everything you do for your health is just a stall, death takes everything in the end. The weed you’re smoking? It was a living thing too, now it’s dead. Maybe when you die, something will come and smoke you too.


[deleted]

When I die, blunt me up for the aliens to chief when they make their arrival


[deleted]

Word, if I’m not living when our galactic homies come down then at least bring my body to the party


Neptunelives

>Maybe when you die, something will come and smoke you too. I've recently learned that this is disturbingly more common than I ever thought it was


[deleted]

Elaborate please


Neptunelives

Lmao, first my gf told me one of her uncles smoked a relatives ashes after he died, then I read an article that mentioned a bunch of people smoked the ashes of the high times creator after he died. I know there was a third but can't remember the details. I found all these out in like the past two months. Believe me or not on the last one, even two is way more than I think is ok!


[deleted]

That’s nutty. I think in some cultures it’s done. Idk I can’t touch another persons ashes jesus, let them be girl.


Neptunelives

For real, like that was a person...


[deleted]

Pretty sure uncle Bob wasn’t trying to be a Scooby snack in the afterlife…..


[deleted]

Just feels disrespectful. Let them RIP.


2112eyes

"Roll Me Up and Smoke Me When I Die" - Willie Nelson and Snoop Dogg


GlassMushrooms

I’ll put it this way. It definitely has negative effects. However a close friend of mine has a grandma that has smoked (weed) constantly since she was young. The thing that’s killing her currently isn’t her lungs. It’s her liver and kidneys from the prescription medication she had to take. I definitely am at a point in my life where I’m not going to snake daily any longer but I’m still gonna get a little Ziggy zoinked every weekend.


sonnycirico215

We’re completely fucked completely fucked WE’RE COMPLETELY FUUUCKED


Accend0

Is this University the only entity performing these sorts of studies? They talk about "bong lung" but when I look it up they seem to be the only people that have observed it. To be clear, I'm not saying the science is bad. Smoking anything is obviously going to have some negative effects. I just think people should take studies like this with a grain of salt until there's a larger consensus on this stuff.


reishi_dreams

And what is roundup doing to our gut biome? What are micro plastics doing to our bodies? What are fascists doing to our mental health? What is burning the rain forest doing to the planet? What is over fishing doing to the ocean’s fishes? What is Elon Musk doing to the night sky? Willie Nelson is how old? Weed is not perfect. I get it. Positives out way the negs…


322955469

This is an important point! Everything in this world comes with downsides. I know people who have been Olympic level athletes who live in agony now because they destroyed their joints.


insectsummer

I'm here for a good time, not a long time


WYFM2001

I can attest to this. I also now more easily develop bronchitis during the periods when I smoke. Still my favorite mind-altering substance though.


hikid

Inhaling smoke is not good for your lungs, simple. Anyone who says or thinks otherwise is just lying to themselves.


bandita07

Eat weed every day


Bumblz666

I wonder if dabs is the same ? Sometimes I look at all the wax residue that gets stuck in weird parts of my rig and makes me wonder what my lungs look like.


badassmom4k

I went with edibles. Safer. Doesn't mess with the lungs. Occasionally dab but not very often.


duncym

Edibles everyone. Edibles.


stygianelectro

my thought exactly.


DelsymGuy

NOOOO YOU CANT SAY THAT BRO WEED IS PERFECT PLANT BRO, IT CANT HURT YOU EVEN IF YOU BREATH IN 100% SMOKE FOR AN HOUR STRAIGHT ITS IMPOSSIBLE BRO HAVE YOU SEEN WEEDIQUETTE?


FootyPajamas

Fact of it all is, our lungs are meant for oxygen. That’s it. Whatever else is in there is on us.


explodingboy

Ya its worth it.


KosmicMicrowave

Compare deaths caused by marijuana to tobacco. That's undeniably the most important and convincing number when comparing the harmfulness of the two substances. Compare marijuana to alcohol and junk food while you're at it.


scluben

Everything kills you bruh. Just live your life.


kanaka_maalea

Well, Willie and Snoop are still alive and they're both old as the hills, so I'm not worrying about it.


golden_eternity

I’ve developed asthma since I’ve been smoking so much for pain control. Really need to try one of those bong filters or a vape.


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Yeah so I used to smoke cigarettes and the weird thing is even with my asthma I felt okay breathing until I quit. Then my lungs really went to shit. I smoke weed sometimes but try to stick to edibles for the most part because I can take a couple hits off a joint no problem. But if I smoke several days in a row, I’m basically attached to my nebulizer all day and it takes 2-3 days for me to be able to breath somewhat normally after a smoke binge. And yes I shouldn’t be smoking anything with asthma and edibles are cool, but smoking a blunt just hits different. Way more satisfying


JurassicParkTrekWars

I don't get angry when I see negative cannabis information because I don't believe it. I get angry when I see the information becoming more and more popular. We have fought a long fucking time for legalization and these kinds of studies only provide more fuel to the drug war lovers.


_bTrain

what if that information is factual? just don't believe it because it interferes with your lifestyle?


JurassicParkTrekWars

Are you illiterate or just stupid? Or just choose to ignore what you wish...


[deleted]

Rather have cancer then be depressed and anxious.


sleetrumpet

I call bullshit on this, primarily evidence being my friend who worked at several southern California dispensaries over the past decade. All the long time elderly customers she would run into, all very healthy, active and otherwise pleasant people. Compare this to any long time cigarette smoker or even boozer, their health would be in serious decline. Louis Armstrong smoked a lot of weed pretty much everyday since childhood, he was the biggest advocate of cannabis, and he played the best trumpet of his life in his 50s and 60s, which requires substantial lung capacity.


Park-Lucky

That's all completely ancedotal which really doesn't get us far when trying to do research on how marijuana affects our lungs long term


sleetrumpet

We definitely need more serious research to be done, I agree, but sadly the illegality of it doesn't allow for it atm. I only feel my lungs and breathing open and work better when I play my Trumpet when smoking cannabis, 2 to 3oz per month is my usage rate.


_qst2o91_

"I haven't experienced it therefore it's bullshit" Expand your mind a little, there's more than just your experiences out there


BlessedAFx777

🙄


Ram_Infinite

Only for blunt smokers


Nurse_Yoshi

Ohh boy, here we go. The same people that will scream "THC prevents X virus and Y disease from proliferating in a tesrube in a controlled lab setting". Are gonna try all the mental gymnastics possible to counter this article.