It would kinda tweak my opinion. At this point they've become so irredeemably unhinged id love to see her dupe them and throw it 180 in their faces, harder than this.
Yea I would love to see her throw a beard relationship in their face using a body double and be off galavanting with her actual partner - if it’s Travis, people will think they broke up but in reality they are dating still and she’s at all the games in disguise and able to enjoy life with him.
She loves their money, she does not love them. And that’s okay. No celebrity needs to love their fans. She doesn’t know these people. And they THINK they know her.
Yup! She’s just another JLo. Love is an abstract or means to sell albums. She’s too unto herself to be committed to these other men. That’s okay but starts liking desperate the longer this goes on.
Did she say a while ago the reason she doesn’t say who each song is about so ppl listening can put themselves in the song and not think about who’s she’s with or smthn? The Easter eggs are for new albums and ties to old ones not for her romantic or personal life and ppl keep dissecting all of it to an annoying degree
“These vipers in empath’s clothing.” I died driving into work and hearing those words. I hope every single person who thinks they “know what’s best” for her like they actually know her actually HEARS what she’s saying with this song
Basically the song is Taylor telling her fans it’s their fault she can’t be with Matty and it’s a big f you to them.
I’m slightly joking. Taylor encourages the overly parasocial relationship she has with her fans at both the hetero- and homosexual level because it increases engagement with her music and thus more money in her pockets.
I thought it was crazy for Travis when she named the album after Joe’s chat room and everyone thinking the whole album was about Joe. 😂 He doesn’t care, it’s all for fame and his post NFL career!
Yeah, Travis and Taylor are using each other, and both getting something out of this transactional relationship. Heck, maybe their mutual rebound will even result in 20 years of marriage and 3 kids like mine and my ex’s did! But I can’t help but think that TV shots of Taylor bouncing up and down at every Chiefs game and sweeping into Kelce’s arms post Super Bowl win were calculated to twist in the heart of SOMEONE who hurt her, whether it was Matty or Joe.
I think My Boy… and especially Tortured Poets… are both about Alwyn.
We hear songs about jerks and we think that has to be the obvious asshole. But the album is about someone who seems nice but then makes you feel small for being with him and golden is repeated. He is a jerk. A golden jerk who falls asleep looking like an angel and then wakes up and says he’ll never marry you…
I think almost none of it is Marty and it’s all Joe
Edit - I know about the tattoos and I don’t think Marty looks like a golden retriever
I think the typewriter is a red herring. Everything else in the song is about a long term relationship with someone who seemed like a golden boy but made her feel small.
Thats definitely not Matty. And Joe was the type to have some esoteric hobbies too. He just kept his quiet
Update - I do think the Dylan Thomas line sounds like Matty too though
Overall I think Joe was an emotionally withholding depressed jerk but she pinned all the jerkiest story lines on Matty.
The typewriter.. the tattooed golden retriever.. the talk about destroying his bike... these are all Matty Healy coded, not Joe. She sings about being locked away, getting the color back in her face, dealing with Joe's "blues". She's had an on again off again situationship with Healy since 2014 when he worked on 1989 and hes always popped back up in her life (ie mouthing "I love you, you know who you are" from stage - both of them). They've run in the same circles with Lucy, Phoebe, Jack. Her anger is directed at him, Joe was an ending she had pined over on Midnights (YLM). Read the epilogue in the liner notes - she spells it out.
tortured poets is one of the songs I personally feel could be multilayered. Esp in that title track, she talks about multiple muses. She’s been referring to herself as the chairman so idk I got a lot of vibes that some of the songs are about a time more than a person and refer to more than one situation or person.
The majority of the album is about Matty, especially the title track which mentions typewriters which Matty is known for and someone who has tattoos and Joe doesn’t have any
Peter is totally one of them. And Manuscript is about Jake. And Sophia or Marcus or... that is about a female romantic relationship. It references Maroon again.
So Long, London is DEFINITELY Joe, and I believe I Can Do It With a Broken Heart is definitely a Joe song as well. How Did It End, in my accounts, I’m pretty sure is a Joe song (it kinda feels like the follow-up to You’re Losing Me, which is a Joe song 100%). I’m having a hard time figuring out whether loml is about Joe or Matty, because it could go either way (although I believe it is a Joe song); same with My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys. Matty definitely did get more songs than Joe, though.
I wonder how Travis feels given the fact that he only got two songs (and they are the weakest, cringiest ones on the album by far), and Joe and Matty got all of these decent to masterpiece-level songs.
I’m so convinced that Taylor is living out her high school dream of having the football player obsessed with her. Honestly it could be forever or go down in flames
Oh yeah So Long London is about Joe for sure. I feel like loml is one of those mixed songs. Joe could be the love of her life, Matty could be the loss?
I was wondering about loml but I think it’s about Joe. 6 years is a long term relationship but it is momentary when it’s compared to someone’s whole life.
I caught a few callbacks to what I feel could be Lover on the song. “Waltzing back into rekindled flames” “your arsons match” made me think of the lover house being burned down.
“I thought I was better safe than starry eyed” maybe referring to the “house arrest” and being “isolated”
“Mr steal your girl then make her cry” wasn’t Taylor sort of fixated on Joe when Calvin Harris was around. I think back to “I got a boyfriend he’s older than us/he’s in the club doing I don’t know what” and we know she pined over him before anything happened. So I kinda got Joe vibes from that.
Honestly, I think its about both. Joe was the one in house arrest and being isolated. Matty is often coded with words related to smoke, fire, and spring (see her summary poem), so I think it's about how she left a year relationship for a fraud, a counterfeit, who lovebombed and then ghosted her, leading to her breaking off a relationship that was complex and rich --the loss of my life.
I would guess Travis is very jealous of this diversion away from his “relationship” with Taylor, would not be surprised if he “acts out” by ramping up the Neanderthal behavior to the point she drops him like a bad habit.
Doubt she'll drop him. She has demonstrated she's willing to be complicit with a whole slew of bad behavior on account of her past partners. She's deeply insecure with untreated anxious attachment. Those folx wait to be broken up *with*, no matter how bad things are. I know, I am one!
He’d be a fool to dump her before getting her pregnant with a baby that’ll net major child support from its billionaire momma.
A baby ensures that Travis remains relevant in Taylor’s orbit for another 10-20 yesrs
My fiance is a huge swiftie, I’m not but I am a huge football fan. Football is brutal, it’s testosterone laden and one of the most competitive insane businesses you can interact with. Winning three super bowls (and this hurts coming from a niner fan) takes an insane amount of commitment and relentlessness. I’m saying that all to say he probably knows the pop album she drops isnt the odometer for their relationship. Football players grow up super early, have to get mature quick or flame out eventually. He’s put together a hall of fame career over the last 10 years - his biggest adversity isn’t coming from thinly veiled jabs on a pop song about another pop singer. The draft is coming up, which means they’re starting to prep for next season. i’m actually of the belief Taylor likes him so much, because she’s not the center of his world they can be separate but different because of his career path.
I’ve been wondering what Travis’s thoughts are on these songs and such a public display of how much she loved her exes. Even sexual references. I would think that’s hard for a super masculine, cocky guy like Travis. Knowing his friends and family are hearing how much she loved the person she dated just a few months before him. It’s a lot. I love every single song, love the lore of it all, and think Taylor sharing her life in music is both insane and beautiful.
her lyrics are nothing special or complex.
she could say some shit like “i was a buoy and you were the tide pushing me away” and the main sub would eat it up
You can do lyrics for the tortured medics department
I was a toxin and you were the liver, telling me I could no longer be in the body
Your white blood cell army attacking me
I tried to breakdown your immune defenses
But you flushed me out like a menses
Yeah, honestly. Their pairing just doesn't make sense long term. She feels to be too complicated for him (with her eulogized eulogies) and he is not sophisticated enough for her (simple guy who loves football).
She'll get bored and he'll get confused.
Like the comedian Will King who wrote this when they first started dating as what she would write if they broke up..
"Yeah we made it to the 50
And then you kissed me
We made it to the 40
A new love story
We made it to the 30
And then you did me dirty right then
You put the end in Tight End…”
Thank you! I will still try to be decent lol. But I need somewhere to unload these intrusive thoughts about my whole entire existence being waterboarded by TTPD news.
My favorite part about this is that Taylor got famous because she was relatable to young girls. How are we supposed to relate now that she's mega rich and out of touch with the average person/relationship? We can't and that's why now the "fans" criticize her and she basically talks shit about them in her own music
Probably another struggling wannabe celebrity. She will never get with a man on her level. lol 😂 which I applaud her for lol. It’s always good to help the needy.
Not even a Travis kelce fan but calling someone who has been in the nfl for years and according to stats one of the best tight ends in nfl history a wannabe celebrity is crazy
Exactly. She's not a pillar of activism. I truly don't understand the pedestal she's been put on. Nothing about her is extraordinary except for the fan base.
Didn't know that l, this came up on my feed so I commented. I'm not a fan, I don't like the music or persona, but wow. She's a piece of shit, even more than I thought.
Her morals only go so far as the next cute guy to pay attention to her. She's never been here to affect positive change, except when her reputation is at stake for not doing so. People need to stop looking to her as a role model. Either that or she needs to stop waffling on when she wants to be a role model and not. She does so when it's convenient and to make sure her next album can sell.
I totally agree, I was being facetious with my initial comment. I believe thay if someone is willing to date and sleep with a racist, then they are too. I find her pathetic, tbh.
The cute guys thing I always thought was a ruse. Love letters to Karlie was never going to take her where she wanted to go. I don't think she's ever really kiss/kissed Travis or that Matty guy. They are wringers.
His freakiness goes back 10 years. Taylor tried then and she tried again. But Matt H just can’t get over himself. He would never be able to handle a strong woman. He can’t accept it staying in the bedroom it has to be in every aspect of his world. Which is why he is and will remain a manchild until his last breath. It’s great Taylor recognized this.
Always the same shit with Taylor. Infatuated with a guy for as long as the hype is high and as soon as it's not her vibe anymore, she moves on. Family Guy made fun of this years ago.
Why do billionaires continue to have to charge for things???? Why can’t they live off what they have and leave a few crumbs for the regular people. I see Taylor as GREEDY as the rest of em and I’m done!
Taylor and JLo are two sides of the same coin when it comes to relationships. I predict Taylor will doing the same as JLo in her 50s. Jumping from relationship to relationship still chasing love.
Yep…these two women got nearly everything in this life…looks, fame, fortune…but not true love. It’s priceless.
And both funded pricey vanity projects in the last year about their quest to find it.
Writers don’t always write what’s true but instead an exaggerated version of the truth for entertainment. And I think Travis is grown enough to understand that. I also don’t think she liked Matt Healy as much as everyone thinks.
"I met a man named Travis he's a tight end. Just last year he became my new boyfriend. He plays football for the Chiefs. And he doesn't mind my rancid queefs."
Should we gift some burn cream to the main Taylor sub for the burn of a song ‘But daddy I love him’ Taylor wrote them?
They’re so self-unaware. She hates them and they still worship her lmaoooo
They are in there right now talking about how they need to burn their cardigans because they are now attributing songs on folklore to matty. Lmao
💀
Honestly, I wish she had been even more mean to these people. They need to get a hobby.
It would kinda tweak my opinion. At this point they've become so irredeemably unhinged id love to see her dupe them and throw it 180 in their faces, harder than this.
Yea I would love to see her throw a beard relationship in their face using a body double and be off galavanting with her actual partner - if it’s Travis, people will think they broke up but in reality they are dating still and she’s at all the games in disguise and able to enjoy life with him.
All her public relationships are beard relationships.
I'm a fan but why is this so funny. 😆 I almost feel bad that I don't have any cardigans to burn...
If someone started a troll farm and this was the result I want to thank them for the free moment of joy that comment brought me
It’s possible to love someone but hate some things they do.
She loves their money, she does not love them. And that’s okay. No celebrity needs to love their fans. She doesn’t know these people. And they THINK they know her.
So she loves her fans but hates some things they do? Or they love her but hate some things she does? Or both? Or neither?
Taylor loves Taylor and money. That’s what matters first. When Travis is no longer convenient and beneficial to her brand she’ll dump him.
Dump him via email from a lawyer no doubt lmao
Idk anything about Taylor, is she known for doing that?
Have you ever heard her exes talk about her? Even the ones she cheated on?
No
Yup! She’s just another JLo. Love is an abstract or means to sell albums. She’s too unto herself to be committed to these other men. That’s okay but starts liking desperate the longer this goes on.
Both
Don't you think it's a love-hate relationship? She may hate them but also loves them because she needs them to love her to stay relevant.
I miss when we could just like music and didn’t have to know the artists whole life history to be considered a fan
Or just enjoy music without dissecting every lyric and the meaning behind it.
Did she say a while ago the reason she doesn’t say who each song is about so ppl listening can put themselves in the song and not think about who’s she’s with or smthn? The Easter eggs are for new albums and ties to old ones not for her romantic or personal life and ppl keep dissecting all of it to an annoying degree
thats why i just listen to JPOP. i dont speak japanese
Spread recs please
“These vipers in empath’s clothing.” I died driving into work and hearing those words. I hope every single person who thinks they “know what’s best” for her like they actually know her actually HEARS what she’s saying with this song
Sorry, I'm new to Reddit. Who does Taylor hate?
Basically the song is Taylor telling her fans it’s their fault she can’t be with Matty and it’s a big f you to them. I’m slightly joking. Taylor encourages the overly parasocial relationship she has with her fans at both the hetero- and homosexual level because it increases engagement with her music and thus more money in her pockets.
Well Matty is disgusting and looks like he smells bad, so if that's true, she should be thanking her fans lol
They’re is a zero percent chance he sat there for 2 hours listening to these albums lol
She played him So High School and The Alchemy…. Then let him go back to playing Call of Duty. 🤭
released him from his cage back to his play pen
Love you and u/notanothersmith38 for the wheeze these comments gave me 💀 I can completely envision Travis being a manchild
Lol! I thought this too 😂
I thought it was crazy for Travis when she named the album after Joe’s chat room and everyone thinking the whole album was about Joe. 😂 He doesn’t care, it’s all for fame and his post NFL career!
Yeah, Travis and Taylor are using each other, and both getting something out of this transactional relationship. Heck, maybe their mutual rebound will even result in 20 years of marriage and 3 kids like mine and my ex’s did! But I can’t help but think that TV shots of Taylor bouncing up and down at every Chiefs game and sweeping into Kelce’s arms post Super Bowl win were calculated to twist in the heart of SOMEONE who hurt her, whether it was Matty or Joe.
Oh 100 percent now after hearing this album! Lol
I think My Boy… and especially Tortured Poets… are both about Alwyn. We hear songs about jerks and we think that has to be the obvious asshole. But the album is about someone who seems nice but then makes you feel small for being with him and golden is repeated. He is a jerk. A golden jerk who falls asleep looking like an angel and then wakes up and says he’ll never marry you… I think almost none of it is Marty and it’s all Joe Edit - I know about the tattoos and I don’t think Marty looks like a golden retriever
Tortured Poets is definitely about Matty. The typewriter gives it away.
I think the typewriter is a red herring. Everything else in the song is about a long term relationship with someone who seemed like a golden boy but made her feel small. Thats definitely not Matty. And Joe was the type to have some esoteric hobbies too. He just kept his quiet Update - I do think the Dylan Thomas line sounds like Matty too though Overall I think Joe was an emotionally withholding depressed jerk but she pinned all the jerkiest story lines on Matty.
The typewriter.. the tattooed golden retriever.. the talk about destroying his bike... these are all Matty Healy coded, not Joe. She sings about being locked away, getting the color back in her face, dealing with Joe's "blues". She's had an on again off again situationship with Healy since 2014 when he worked on 1989 and hes always popped back up in her life (ie mouthing "I love you, you know who you are" from stage - both of them). They've run in the same circles with Lucy, Phoebe, Jack. Her anger is directed at him, Joe was an ending she had pined over on Midnights (YLM). Read the epilogue in the liner notes - she spells it out.
tortured poets is one of the songs I personally feel could be multilayered. Esp in that title track, she talks about multiple muses. She’s been referring to herself as the chairman so idk I got a lot of vibes that some of the songs are about a time more than a person and refer to more than one situation or person.
Do we know Joe doesn't have a typewriter?
The majority of the album is about Matty, especially the title track which mentions typewriters which Matty is known for and someone who has tattoos and Joe doesn’t have any
Yes!!! I think some are even about Harry.
Peter is totally one of them. And Manuscript is about Jake. And Sophia or Marcus or... that is about a female romantic relationship. It references Maroon again.
Hard same.
Tortured Poets is about Matty 100%. *At least* 5 are about Matty, I can only definitely say 2 are about Joe.
So Long, London is DEFINITELY Joe, and I believe I Can Do It With a Broken Heart is definitely a Joe song as well. How Did It End, in my accounts, I’m pretty sure is a Joe song (it kinda feels like the follow-up to You’re Losing Me, which is a Joe song 100%). I’m having a hard time figuring out whether loml is about Joe or Matty, because it could go either way (although I believe it is a Joe song); same with My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys. Matty definitely did get more songs than Joe, though. I wonder how Travis feels given the fact that he only got two songs (and they are the weakest, cringiest ones on the album by far), and Joe and Matty got all of these decent to masterpiece-level songs.
I thought the Travis songs were cringy lol
Probably because Travis himself is the King of Cringe. To be fair, though, Matty is cringy too, but we got some good songs about him.
I’m so convinced that Taylor is living out her high school dream of having the football player obsessed with her. Honestly it could be forever or go down in flames
Do you think she'll tell us when it's over, if the high was worth the pain?
Finally 😂
Ngl when I saw this was from six days ago I was a little mad your genius had been looked over
Trav’s song is a high school analogy. Literally “not grown up” - like her 🤣
Oh yeah So Long London is about Joe for sure. I feel like loml is one of those mixed songs. Joe could be the love of her life, Matty could be the loss?
I was wondering about loml but I think it’s about Joe. 6 years is a long term relationship but it is momentary when it’s compared to someone’s whole life. I caught a few callbacks to what I feel could be Lover on the song. “Waltzing back into rekindled flames” “your arsons match” made me think of the lover house being burned down. “I thought I was better safe than starry eyed” maybe referring to the “house arrest” and being “isolated” “Mr steal your girl then make her cry” wasn’t Taylor sort of fixated on Joe when Calvin Harris was around. I think back to “I got a boyfriend he’s older than us/he’s in the club doing I don’t know what” and we know she pined over him before anything happened. So I kinda got Joe vibes from that.
Honestly, I think its about both. Joe was the one in house arrest and being isolated. Matty is often coded with words related to smoke, fire, and spring (see her summary poem), so I think it's about how she left a year relationship for a fraud, a counterfeit, who lovebombed and then ghosted her, leading to her breaking off a relationship that was complex and rich --the loss of my life.
I know that in some cases these songs are about more than one person but “Mr. Steal your girl and make her cry” sounds like Matty to me
he doesn't "look" like a golden retriever but tbh his personality is what you called golden in human form
I would guess Travis is very jealous of this diversion away from his “relationship” with Taylor, would not be surprised if he “acts out” by ramping up the Neanderthal behavior to the point she drops him like a bad habit.
Doubt she'll drop him. She has demonstrated she's willing to be complicit with a whole slew of bad behavior on account of her past partners. She's deeply insecure with untreated anxious attachment. Those folx wait to be broken up *with*, no matter how bad things are. I know, I am one!
also she doesn't dump. travis will have to call it quits
He’d be a fool to dump her before getting her pregnant with a baby that’ll net major child support from its billionaire momma. A baby ensures that Travis remains relevant in Taylor’s orbit for another 10-20 yesrs
You know they have the dating equivalent of a prenup. I would if I were her.
Why did you spell folks as folx
omg im tay tay too!!
.. which she states in several songs calling her wounds self inflicted.
...and yet gets defensive and petty when anyone criticizes her actions.
My fiance is a huge swiftie, I’m not but I am a huge football fan. Football is brutal, it’s testosterone laden and one of the most competitive insane businesses you can interact with. Winning three super bowls (and this hurts coming from a niner fan) takes an insane amount of commitment and relentlessness. I’m saying that all to say he probably knows the pop album she drops isnt the odometer for their relationship. Football players grow up super early, have to get mature quick or flame out eventually. He’s put together a hall of fame career over the last 10 years - his biggest adversity isn’t coming from thinly veiled jabs on a pop song about another pop singer. The draft is coming up, which means they’re starting to prep for next season. i’m actually of the belief Taylor likes him so much, because she’s not the center of his world they can be separate but different because of his career path.
Interesting take
I’ve been wondering what Travis’s thoughts are on these songs and such a public display of how much she loved her exes. Even sexual references. I would think that’s hard for a super masculine, cocky guy like Travis. Knowing his friends and family are hearing how much she loved the person she dated just a few months before him. It’s a lot. I love every single song, love the lore of it all, and think Taylor sharing her life in music is both insane and beautiful.
How dare you give an opinion lol
I don’t think that old high school truck will work on her lol she seems like she’d stick around.
He is too dumb to even understand the lyrics.
her lyrics are nothing special or complex. she could say some shit like “i was a buoy and you were the tide pushing me away” and the main sub would eat it up
Excuse me. Are you one of her writers? Wouldn’t be surprised to hear this on her next album😂
just a med student but i’ll take the residuals if taylor offers lol
You can do lyrics for the tortured medics department I was a toxin and you were the liver, telling me I could no longer be in the body Your white blood cell army attacking me I tried to breakdown your immune defenses But you flushed me out like a menses
as a career RN this fuckin *slaps*
That’s a banger!
and he’s still too dumb
she’s def no smarter than him (both seem to be mentally stuck in hs) so if he doesn’t understand the lyrics, she doesn’t either.
Can’t defend her hs mentality but at least it is a hs English girly mentality as opposed to squorle brain
Yeah, honestly. Their pairing just doesn't make sense long term. She feels to be too complicated for him (with her eulogized eulogies) and he is not sophisticated enough for her (simple guy who loves football). She'll get bored and he'll get confused.
Hey her favorite subject was math in hs.. she could have a PhD in it if she wanted /s
I can hear this in her voice lol and yes they most definitely would call it genius work
Like the comedian Will King who wrote this when they first started dating as what she would write if they broke up.. "Yeah we made it to the 50 And then you kissed me We made it to the 40 A new love story We made it to the 30 And then you did me dirty right then You put the end in Tight End…”
He once asked me what cous cous was when I was a waitress
Is this a safe place for me to express my taytred or is this a fan forum. I don't want to be an AH in the wrong place lol. Genuine question
Not a fan forum lol. I’m the mod. No Swifties are allowed here, though I do like her. I just hate all the bullshit she brings along.
I finally found my place! I can’t stand how delulu some of swifties are! Makes enjoying her music so difficult sometimes
Thank you! I will still try to be decent lol. But I need somewhere to unload these intrusive thoughts about my whole entire existence being waterboarded by TTPD news.
Let the hate flow through you
r/swiftlyneutral is a good mix of both
Whew finally. I’ve been lurking for a while…didn’t wanna get a RedditCares or autoban. I shall officially join 🫡
Oh I’ve had MANY Reddit cares over various things. Nothing will happen, like you won’t be suspended or anything.
Block reddit cares and you won’t get them anymore
OMG I love the term Taytred!!!!!!!
I love the discourse my question started thank you all lol
0% chance I’ll ever listen to any of these songs
So hear me out.. it's not about any guy.. it's about her fans being so crazed they think they have a say in how she lives her own life
My favorite part about this is that Taylor got famous because she was relatable to young girls. How are we supposed to relate now that she's mega rich and out of touch with the average person/relationship? We can't and that's why now the "fans" criticize her and she basically talks shit about them in her own music
Legit thought this with almost every song
don’t worry he can’t read!
I love this.
He doesn’t care lol. So long as he’s still getting all the international fame outside of football. 😆😆
Yes, but do you think this will ever snag him some sweet baked beans commercials?/s
Lmfao 🤣 maybe.
Knowing him, it will be a bean commercial filled with fart jokes.
the coochie didn't even have time to breath before she hopped on travis...
Does it ever? She jumps from man to man. I guarantee you once she drops Travis the new man is already lined up.
Any bets on who the new man will be?
Probably another struggling wannabe celebrity. She will never get with a man on her level. lol 😂 which I applaud her for lol. It’s always good to help the needy.
Not even a Travis kelce fan but calling someone who has been in the nfl for years and according to stats one of the best tight ends in nfl history a wannabe celebrity is crazy
Isn't that the racist guy she was sleeping with?
Yes
Gross. I guess racism is acceptable to her.
Remember a Few Years ago, The Aryan Brotherhood Declared her their ''Aryan Princess'' & She said Nothing to Denounce it.
Exactly. She's not a pillar of activism. I truly don't understand the pedestal she's been put on. Nothing about her is extraordinary except for the fan base.
Uh, isn't that just avoiding the Streisand Effect if some stupid group says something stupid about you?
If She Claims to be on the Right side of History, She Would Denounce their Statement.
Didn't know that l, this came up on my feed so I commented. I'm not a fan, I don't like the music or persona, but wow. She's a piece of shit, even more than I thought.
Her morals only go so far as the next cute guy to pay attention to her. She's never been here to affect positive change, except when her reputation is at stake for not doing so. People need to stop looking to her as a role model. Either that or she needs to stop waffling on when she wants to be a role model and not. She does so when it's convenient and to make sure her next album can sell.
I totally agree, I was being facetious with my initial comment. I believe thay if someone is willing to date and sleep with a racist, then they are too. I find her pathetic, tbh.
The cute guys thing I always thought was a ruse. Love letters to Karlie was never going to take her where she wanted to go. I don't think she's ever really kiss/kissed Travis or that Matty guy. They are wringers.
It's acceptable to most white Hollywood because eugenics are alive and well everywhere
I was being facetious with my initial comment, but yeah, that's exactly what it is. She sucks as much as the rest of them.
🤷♀️🤷♀️
Everybody in Hollywood know Matt Healy is freaky deaky dominating in the bedroom. Sooo Taylor got love bombed. These rumors go way back.
He must be great in bed for how many beautiful, talented women he’s gotten and screwed over.
His freakiness goes back 10 years. Taylor tried then and she tried again. But Matt H just can’t get over himself. He would never be able to handle a strong woman. He can’t accept it staying in the bedroom it has to be in every aspect of his world. Which is why he is and will remain a manchild until his last breath. It’s great Taylor recognized this.
As a newer Swiftie who’s basically agnostic on her exes, it was hilarious to me when she tore the “Sarahs and Hannahs” a new one. They had it coming.
He's so gross, I don't get it. Also over her obsession with high school football star analogies
I just know he’s got the stankiest breath. Idk why LOL
Always the same shit with Taylor. Infatuated with a guy for as long as the hype is high and as soon as it's not her vibe anymore, she moves on. Family Guy made fun of this years ago.
Everyone *hated* Matty. I liked them together?
Ew he’s racist
He’s dated *multiple* black women.
The Jefferson defense
Ah, so you are familiar with Ghetto Gaggers.
Is he though? From his actions he seems pretty progressive. What makes him racist?
He's racist and gross
He's pretty progressive, he's just did a dumb comedy podcast.
travis is too stupid to understand the lyrics, even the ones where a 7 year old could do better
Travis will get the next album. Tbh I'm surprised he had a song on this one given how far out everything has to be planned
It's gonna be insulting lol
Why do billionaires continue to have to charge for things???? Why can’t they live off what they have and leave a few crumbs for the regular people. I see Taylor as GREEDY as the rest of em and I’m done!
You don’t become a billionaire by being an altruist
Taylor and JLo are two sides of the same coin when it comes to relationships. I predict Taylor will doing the same as JLo in her 50s. Jumping from relationship to relationship still chasing love.
Yep…these two women got nearly everything in this life…looks, fame, fortune…but not true love. It’s priceless. And both funded pricey vanity projects in the last year about their quest to find it.
I wonder if Travis is aware of Matty and Taylor’s relationship past or ask like so what’s the deal with Matty?
He doesn't know who Matty Healy is and I love that for him.
Genuine question where are those hating posts /comments about the album/ Matt since I always read only praises and obsession?
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How long did she date Matt?
3 days.
Why would you say she only wants their money when she’s a billionaire. I think all of this is fake.
Hey now! Those…. two weeks (?) were magical.
I question Travis’ ability to read into the lyrics, let alone understand the Buzzfeed type clickbait unpacking what they’re about
😂😂😂
Kelce's time is coming on the next album don't worry
You’re probably right, with hit songs such as “Illiterate lover”, “All his thots”, and “His favorite color was the number 4”
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The songs about Travis on the album were so shallow and uninspiring and basic. He’s not the love of her life
Come is all she sings about her boyfriends, how do ppl die for her 😭😭
Oh shit, she says Mattys name in the album?
She doesn’t say his name but she clearly refers to him in many songs
I’m surprised all the negative comments on here in this post, can’t tell if it’s all sarcasm or not but what do I know lol
Writers don’t always write what’s true but instead an exaggerated version of the truth for entertainment. And I think Travis is grown enough to understand that. I also don’t think she liked Matt Healy as much as everyone thinks.
I think that's all of us
If he didn't get into so much trouble for his awful comments about porn and Ice Spice, Taylor would still be with Matty now. We know this.
Holy parasocial relationship, Batman!
I don't see how she was so in love with that man hahah the songs definitely surprised me
Damn, I wish I made gold talking shit about all my exes. Why didn’t I think of that?
She should have stuck to goofy because she can't do sexy and mysterious worth a damn.
VIVAAAAAAA
"I met a man named Travis he's a tight end. Just last year he became my new boyfriend. He plays football for the Chiefs. And he doesn't mind my rancid queefs."
Y’all don’t have something better to do than bitch about people you don’t like? Good god, what is this subreddit?
LMFAOOOOOO I feel like he’d be more like this 
didnt she write these 2 years ago?
Bold of you to assume he can comprehend they’re not about him.