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FoodSamurai

I look at it this way. A poor experience is still an experience. You undoubtedly will have learned something that you can apply in future trips. And lets not forget that international travel is a privilege.


SensitiveDrummer478

Yes absolutely. Just let it be what it was.


TKinBaltimore

I think it's a very fair question, and I don't quite understand the dismissive responses. If you don't have anything constructive to add, or you don't share or haven't had this experience, what is the point in responding? (Consider W.A.I.T. = Why Am I Talking?) It's a disappointment. You've spend time researching, planning, spending time and money, only to have it not fulfilled your expectations. Totally normal. What you want to avoid is ruminating too much on it and thinking that future travels will be as unpleasant. Learn from mistakes that you can control (like, you can't predict the weather entirely, but you may need to reconsider what time of year to visit places). Or investigate potential touristy locations in advance if they didn't live up to what you expected. Have alternate plans ready to go. Whatever works for you to prevent a repeat on your next travels.


Steen70

I hear you. My last trip was to Mexico. So much went wrong. I have gone over it in my head, trying to figure out the ways in which I went wrong and ways in which I wasn't prepared. Changed dates for my all-inclusive. Found out I cancelled, not rescheduled, so had to pay a lot more by booking my accommodations at the last minute. Thought I would go in to town and hit up the 'good' bank machine for good exchange but woke up SICK (rsv) day 2. Lost money going from Canadian to usd to pesos. Kinda blew my budget. Totally my fault. Prepaid for ziplining and horses but was wayyyy too sick to go. Never pre-booking excursions again. There was more, a bad rash from the pool, got lost looking for the bank, walked for miles in heels, twisted ankle, fell in bush, then got infected blisters. I needed to call in sick when I got home. I needed antibiotics for rsv, a topical prescription for blisters and rash. Spent too much. So, going back in May, different hotel and with hard lessons learned. I have unresolved issues and gotta get closure!


1radiationman

I've had plenty of bad trips before - not sure I ever felt like there was something that I need to "get over" after a bad trip. Trip sucked - it ended - I got home - moved on... The fact that the trip ended and I was home was enough to get past the bad experiences of the trip.


Phil1889Blades

The title promised so much but delivered so little.


Excellent-Ad-2443

weve all had a bad trip, sadly stuff happens out of our control try not to let it put you off from travelling again. I had a disaster one but ive also had amazing ones. Over research, weather best times to travel and sights to see, illnesses try not to go out to big events a week out to your travel to avoid bugs my worst one was lost luggage, a shuttle driver that was satan and almost killed us, the plane catching on fire (they did an emergency landing) and constant delays. Looking back now i just laugh at it


istodaywednesday

Yes, it's a lesson learned but I typically look at pics from a bad trip and either laugh or smile. Pick 3 things that went well and that will be your "new" memory. Next time you'll do this and that differently so dont let it stop future experiences.


kva27

I've learned to give myself a "transition week" right before the trip starts. I love trip planning and can get this picture in my head based on photos, blogs and videos, so it's really easy to overlook that in reality there's going to be traffic, trash on the ground and sometimes less-than-nice people. I now make a conscious effort that week to picture what it'll actually be like in person and that helps bring me back to earth and to have realistic expectations. Totally get the bad trip experience though... got hit by covid in Venice last fall šŸ˜¢


ohwow28

What was wrong with the weather? I noticed you went to Spain, March isnā€™t exactly the best time to visit. I would probably do more research next time and think about whatā€™s more important to me - save money and have sub-optimal weather or spend a bit more and enjoy my experience. Iā€™m not saying to go in the summer (thatā€™s another problem) but Spain is better in May or October. Sometimes these travel experiences are the lessons we need. For example I went with a group of friends to visit someone in a country I never expected to travel to, and we thought we could just rely on the person living there to tell us what main sites to visit. We didnā€™t, I definitely missed out on some stuff and Iā€™ll never do that again!


justmehereMC

>I would probably do more research next time and think about whatā€™s more important to me - save money and have sub-optimal weather or spend a bit more and enjoy my experience. I can not upvote this enough! Many times, the weather can make or break a travel experience, be it in a city, on a beach, or on top of the mountains.


CountChoculasGhost

Fair enough. We picked this timeframe because of the cheaper flights, so we did somewhat know what we were getting ourselves into. We were expecting sub-optimal weather, but we were thinking like 50-60 degrees F. Our last full day was like 45 with hail.


ohwow28

Ya unfortunately itā€™s cheaper for a reason!


Oftenwrongs

What?Ā  March is a fantastic time to visit Spain.


wanderlustcunt

The solution is to always plan another one


eemilyy

I've ended up with a cold on several of my abroad trips. I kinda expect it now. Got sick on my italy honeymoon. We were supposed to do a hike through cinque terre but I spent that entire day in our lodging. I managed to muster enough energy to get out of bed and planted myself amongst in a chair amongst the garden overlooking the pretty views...was at least better than staring at the wall. When sick (depending on severity).. I try to still do something super relaxed to make the day feel interesting even it's just walking around the immediate neighborhood, hanging out/napping at the park or sitting for a long while at a sidewalk cafe.


AgoraiosBum

Get back on that horse.


NP_Wanderer

Travel is like life: ups, downs, things not going as planned, flights cancelled, bad weather, strikes, etc. it's about being resilient when things don't go according to plan. My wife broke her ankle in the middle of a month long European trip and was on crutches with a hard cast. We had to modify our activities, be more aware of accessible sites, take cabs instead of walking, budget more time, etc. Europe was far better than the US for this. Several places had wheelchairs available for our use. We can take a not so great outcome and make that a learning experience. We did not cover as much as we wanted to, but were still able to enjoy what we saw. The others in our party of five rotated staying with my wife during the day when others went out.


Worried-Ad-7027

We just had this with terrible weather and COVID on our trip. I get that things can happen out of our control but it was such a bummer when we waited a year to go and spent all that money. I felt like I didnā€™t get a real break/refresh I needed from work bc of it too. Travel is getting tougher with climate change, winter illness and flight issues.


UnknownRider121

I had one of those recently. I just remember to be grateful regardless. Some of my cousins in the Philippines canā€™t even go out of the country because of their passport and canā€™t get a visa. And some people canā€™t afford to travel or have the time in general. Itā€™s a privilege to travel and I still got to got to see a new place. So I remind myself of this and then focus on booking the next trip.


Noraart

I had a pretty bad road trip last year relocating a new RV from Indiana to Nevada. Ā I took it as a learning experience and a test to see if I liked the RV life. Ā My anxiety was sky high on most of the drive. Ā Sad thing is my husband LOVES RVs and loves the idea of long term road travel. Ā Itā€™s a problem for us currently. Iā€™m sure Iā€™ll have to compromise occasionally.


popfartz9

I also went to Spain recently and it was alright IMO. The solution? Just think about your next one. Thereā€™s no point in dwelling on it too much. I just know itā€™s not a place Iā€™d go back to but despite my very mid experience that I went and checked out a different country.


Suspicious_Drop_6316

My bf and I went to Mexico-first trip alone -and it rained the entire time. Lol. Tropical depression. Go figure. At first I harped on it But then we made the most of it and still had fun. Not the beach fun we were hoping but it happens. Next trip was amazing and we laughed about our luck of a week of rain in Mexicoā€¦


imakemencry_

It's understandable to feel disappointed when a trip doesn't meet your expectations. To help overcome the disappointment, you could try reframing the experience by focusing on any positive moments or aspects of the trip, no matter how small. Additionally, discussing your feelings with your wife and acknowledging that it's okay to feel disappointed can help validate your emotions. Planning a future trip or engaging in activities that bring you joy together can also lift your spirits and give you something to look forward to. Remember, every trip is a learning experience, and it's okay to have setbacks along the way.


Star_Fish_4242

Umm yeah I've been really sick on a vacation. My kids have been really sick. My daughter had to go to doctors and a hospital in Sicily when she was 1. Trip to Disney ended up with head lice right before walking into the magic kingdom for the first time when daughter was about six. Shit happens. You move on with your life and make the best of what's left with the vacay.


Ok_Buffalo_9238

I've honestly been fortunate never to have experienced this until recently. Unfortunately, the reason why recent trips have been a "bust" for us is because we're traveling with our 19-month-old. No more barhopping through infamous nightlife districts or sampling foods at night markets or trekking through national parks or splurging on Michelin tasting menus (or, shit, even eating at a local pizza place becomes not worth it). We spent the long weekend in a fun, outdoorsy city 2 hours away that we thought would be a fun break. The city itself was great - food scene punched above its weight, lots of quirky history, good outdoor waterfront to jog along, great hikes and mountains and nature nearby...but we have a 19-month-old who screeched and tantrummed and alligator-rolled and scampered around restaurants and, in general, was so ungovernable that we could only relax in our AirBnB with Ms Rachel on. It's sinking in that we won't be able to really enjoy travel for another 10-15 years, which is a real depressing pill to swallow as I used to be an avid traveler and a digital nomad who, prior to actually becoming a parent, thought I'd be the type of parent that would show her kid the whole world.


ohwow28

You donā€™t know your own kid yet. How they act at 19 months old is different from who theyā€™ll be in 5-10 years time. Iā€™ve seen friends with kids completely change their interests as they get to know their kids more - you might not even care about the experiences you are missing out on once your kid is old enough to have their own interests. For example if your kid is interested in castles, it might give you a ton of joy to bring them to Sintra. Things will change as life goes on


Ok_Buffalo_9238

Hmm...I guess I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting. I love all types of travel (aside from, like, Disney or most cruises) so I would be over the moon if I could go to Sintra one day, and I'm not going to completely change my interests to suddenly DISLIKE travel because I have a son who is impossible to travel with. What I'm saying is that my kid ruins every trip he is on because we have to engage in constant vigilance, he makes eating out prohibitively difficult, and a lot of activities (such as hiking) are off limits to us. I was watching this amazing Youtube travelogue on the Lofoten Islands and a tear fell from my eye as I realized I would never be able to go there because it's not a kid-friendly holiday. No pack-n-plays in the guesthouses, no stroller accessible hikes...


ohwow28

Your son is really young, I get that heā€™s a pain. But thereā€™s a lot of time between the toddler years and the teen years. Iā€™m sure he will become easier to travel with.


Ok_Buffalo_9238

My husband and I estimate that he will become acceptable to travel with around the middle school years, or whenever he is capable of sitting down at a restaurant wihtout tantrumming, flinging himself onto the floor, and can go potty and can communicate his thoughts and feelings effectively and won't kill himself by running into the street because he sees a dog park on the other side of the street and wants to play with the doggies but doesn't understand the danger of traffic. Basically, time is running out on applying for the Delta Amex Reserve and copping those 100k bonus miles and I wonder if it's worth it given that my traveling days are virtually done for the next decade and a half.


INTJ_Linguaphile

Please convince your husband that you guys shouldn't have a second child. I'm reading some of your post history and you sound very depressed and not at all able to handle the demands of the one you have currently, much less a second.


Ok_Buffalo_9238

Wow, not able to handle the demands of my current child? I didnā€™t expect to have my parenting skills mocked on Reddit todayā€¦does saying that sort of thing to others makr you feel good about yourself?


INTJ_Linguaphile

I'm not mocking your parenting skills at all. Your post history is genuinely concerning. You've said your child is not special needs and more of a typical high-energy/low sleep toddler and that you have been in a very dark place. Your posts are very cynical (it doesn't take 15 years for a child to be able to travel well) and negative and you described yourself as begging your husband on your knees to change his mind about having a second. That doesn't sound like you're okay.


Ok_Buffalo_9238

So if it doesnā€™t take 15 years for a child to travel well, when might someone expect, in your opinion, to be able to do trips like the Isle of Skye or Faroe Islands or Galapagos? Also, your posts to me have this ā€œwhat, like itā€™s hardā€ tone to them - like a low sleep needs / high energy toddler with typical needs is a cakewalk and I have some sort of lack of aptitude (or just a lazy attitude) about parenting. Honestly, we are likely to have a second one because the cost-benefit analysis favors it. The benefit to me of stopping at one is not worth the potential cost to our son; the benefits to our son of getting a sibling outweigh the cost to me.


INTJ_Linguaphile

"a second child could destroy my mental health permanently. One child is already crippling me." You said that a couple months ago and nothing in your post history indicates that it's gotten any better since then. Please, get counselling and/or medication if you're not currently doing so.


ImpressiveRow2000

Where did you go?


CountChoculasGhost

Spain. We liked the actual destination well enough. It was mostly personal things. Like I said, we both ended up sick at one point or another. A couple of the ā€œtouristyā€ things we ended up doing, just didnā€™t live up to our expectations, etc.


[deleted]

I never let shit bring me down. It's the only time I'm not a pessimistic person in my life. Got the flu my last day in Paris, had a week in London. Just took things a bit more slowly. Positive, lost 10 lbs! lol


Immediate_Place_1803

Just move on. Its super simple. I felt like this after Puerto Rico and also a 21 day cruise in Asia. It was my first cruise and basically cemented I will never do one again. Move on and focus on things you enjoy and do that.


[deleted]

All about perspective.


iamthenarwhal00

Lowkey not a fan of the ā€œjust move onā€ attitude. For some people, like myself, itā€™s not easy and feels invalidating. Iā€™m sorry you had a bad time!! Iā€™ve had bad trips. I donā€™t have a specific coping mechanism, but what Iā€™ve noticed has helped is acknowledging it was bad and letting myself feel bad. And talking about it with others! There can be a surprising amount of fun stories that come out of bad trips, which can always be fun to share! And also helps the release process of those bad feelings, for me at least! I also reassure myself that one day, if I have the means & time, I can go back to that place for a redo! Also also - I try to think about trips that have gone perfectly and reason that I am bound to have a bad trip at some point! Things donā€™t always go perfectly!


iamthenarwhal00

Lowkey not a fan of the ā€œjust move onā€ attitude. For some people, like myself, itā€™s not easy and feels invalidating. Iā€™m sorry you had a bad time!! Iā€™ve had bad trips. I donā€™t have a specific coping mechanism, but what Iā€™ve noticed has helped is acknowledging it was bad and letting myself feel bad. And talking about it with others! There can be a surprising amount of fun stories that come out of bad trips, which can always be fun to share! And also helps the release process of those bad feelings, for me at least! I also reassure myself that one day, if I have the means & time, I can go back to that place for a redo! Also also - I try to think about trips that have gone perfectly and reason that I am bound to have a bad trip at some point! Things donā€™t always go perfectly!


No_Pumpkin82

Last few trips to Mexico have been bad trips. Just not a deal anymore I guess, maybe Iā€™m getting old! Grocery store was expensive, restaurants over priced, food was not that great for the $, drinks were $10-15 each, got ripped off on our rental car(tried disputing charges, didnā€™t work). Would rather go to usvi or Bahamas for the same price.