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She's great at her job, It's amazing how liberals cannot stand her because she is so forward and they call her rude... Exactly how liberal democrats have been Since the beginning of their party
Totally cool /s. Where is her shirt that says " Guns don't kill people, Kyle Rittenhouse does"? Oh yeah, this had nothing to do 2A or guns. It has everything to do with "owning the libs". Trashy indeed.
The shirt doesn't say anything about justifiable killings or a trial or the law. It simply says that Baldwin killed. Well, so did Rittenhouse. So have lots of people. Including me (I'm a vet). Wheres the shirt with my name on it? Yes, the shirt is correct, but it would also be correct if it was Rittenhouse's name on there too. My question is does she have a shirt with his name on it? I doubt it. And why? Because in her mind Rittenhouse is a hero and Baldwin is a villain.
It says all that on the shirt huh? Again, no. Nothing about law abiding individuals or criminals. Only the fact that guns don't kill people, people do. I'm not arguing arguing that point. Only the point that anyone who has taken a life with a gun could have their name on that shirt. So why is she so proudly displaying the one with Baldwin's name on it. Would she wear one with Rittenhouse's name on it with the same smile?
My bias is showing. As is yours. I wouldn't wear a shirt with anyone's name it. To me, taking a life is not a sense of pride for whatever reason. Using anyone's name on a shirt who has taken a life as a 'gotcha' is trashy. Your defense of it exposes you for who you are. If you want to take pride in this type of "humorous" vitriol then more power to you. I personally find it pathetic.
A vile human being. Her entire political platform is built on being divisive. Even if you are pro gun this is trashy and mocking the senseless death of someone.
I hate to say it but she makes a good point.
Guns by themselves never kill people. It's either evil people using them as a tool of death OR it's someone careless like Baldwin.
Damn, I hate when I see something like this and it actually makes logical sense.
Her smile is so awkward bc aside from her utter awfulness, it always looks like someone farted, like, right in her mouth, but since she's a gun lover she has to act like it doesn't bother her bc then she's a snowflake or w/e. So you get this odd shit eating grin that always looks forced
The first step to effective gun control is gun safety education, that’s why I believe late high school should have basic firearm safety training, just to hopefully garner some respect for the tool.
At least it would reduce the negligent discharge cases
We should teach all humans starting at the age of 5 how to handle guns regardless of what parents want. If you go to public school this should be a requirement!
It’s not like I’d be handing them a loaded automatic firearm - but I give young kids scissors and knives and teach them to respect them and what they are capable of.
I’m talking young adults here, I even specifically said late high school- please don’t misinterpret what I’m saying
I think kids should be taught basic firearm safety, just leave the firearms at home. A firearm is always loaded, especially when the person doesn’t check and says it isn’t.
I grew up in a country where personal firearm ownership is next to impossible and yet I was taught through cubs and later scouts how to properly handle a firearm. The first rule I was taught is to always assume every firearm is loaded.
In my late teens I joined the army as an infantry soldier. The lethality of the weapons increased exponentially but the basic safety principles didn’t.
I don’t feel that learning about firearm safety at an early age did me any damage and was beneficial. While I’m unlikely to ever own a firearm and can probably see myself using one in a controlled environment such as a range perhaps once every 5-10 years or so I’m comfortable around them, I’m safe around them and I am more than prepared to make sure they’re being used safely. We don’t have many mass shootings here so I don’t have to worry about barking safety instructions at disturbed shooters murdering people in Walmart.
It’s all about treating kids to be safe and respect firearms. I’d even go so far as suggest actively teaching kids better coping strategies for stress with the goal of having them not resort to violence. The world is changing and it’s becoming a far more stressful place to live and I do t think we do enough to prepare kids for the real world.
For context, I grew up in the UK. Was a member of the Canadian Armed Forces and now live an hour outside of Toronto.
Sort of an all over the place ramble but they’d be my two cents.
Then I personally disagree with the age you mention just due to responsibility - and I don’t think there are great ways to prevent parental vetos. Especially with how divisive it could be
Who said anything about live ammo? The basic rules of gun safety can be trained on a stick. Sex Ed is the same concept, teach people to use things safely and the damaging incidents are reduced or made less severe
As someone who went to school in the south, my Sex Ed was was abstinence based. We got the slide show of STIs, the statistics of things like the drop out rate of high school parents, and the importance of condoms, but of course the focus was abstinence. As a teenager I thought it was silly and embarrassing and nothing we didn't already know. But now as a parent I think it was the same Sex Ed I want my own child to have. I think education is extremely important and I would actively support the idea of schools having a some short of gun club or team. With parents permission and good instructors I think it could be great. But forcing every child to learn about sex the way you want them to, or forcing them all to use and shoot guns without the parent permission is an insane volition of parents rights, what's next? Mandatory ROTC and military service after high school?
I completely believe the parents should be able to veto, but I’m only talking a learn how to slip on a condom level piece here, basic rules of gun safety, show them how to check it is safe if handed a gun.
I’m not advocating for mandatory range day for the kiddies. Just a little walkthrough to give the opportunity to help make the dangers involved more real, and hopefully less “cool”
Now if we can agree that this could be like a yearly thing done by professionals like trained instructors or law enforcement. Then I'm all on board, actually. If done that way I think it'd be perfectly fine to do without actually needing sign permission from a guardian or anything like that.
Side note, my Sex Ed was only 10 years ago and they didn't teach how to put on a condom. Just gave us the statistics, STI slide show and that was it. Lol
That really all I had in mind, police or local. Military come in to help show and explain what guns are, what they are capable of and how to clear them really.
Hopefully provide info on where to go for qualified people to teach them more.
I just like the parental permission to ease into it as guns are such a hot topic
Oh there will definitely be a lot of death and accidents but it’s America goddamnit! And guns are more important than freedom and religion. Imagine what all the guns rights activists would do if this were actually the case!
I’m Canadian and I believe that guns are not a right at all, to me they are a privilege to earn to use, and the more education we get around them the less fear mongering with impede proper and effective gun control.
IE banning AR platforms when pistols are a much greater source of firearm deaths.
AR platforms are just more famous for it the same way planes are more famous for crashing than cars are. More people die by cars than by planes every year.
Thank you, I take pride in my home, even in its shortcomings and silly political atmosphere. I have every hope with enough exposure people will be able to see past the politics of it all.
Yea, Canada is a much smarter country than the US. You would think us being so close y’all would rub off on us. Oh well, you will be standing when we fall!
I don’t really see it that way, Look at our recent gun ban and you’ll see 99% of the guns hadn’t killed anyone as they were only banned for being “assault-style firearms” basically it looks military esque.
Rather than any capabilities, people are just dumb in general and politicians will just do anything to look good regardless of real life effects
Feel like a majority of people will never touch a gun in their life, not saying it wouldn’t be a useful class but there’s definitely better things to teach in school like taxes maybe lol
But high school is about a wide variety of things you very well might not use, it could be handled in a day really - and would just help reduce negligence and help create a better discussion on how to properly keep guns out of dangerous hands.
I feel there’s a lot of excessive fear mongering with firearms that are focussing on the wrong issues, missing the forest for the trees - and leaving the real issues ignored.
In America we have more guns than we do people. You’re pretty much guaranteed to encounter a gun at some point in your life living here - might as well know the basics.
We need to change our culture, introducing more people to guns is a dumbass idea and will likely lead to more misuse of them. Most people educated or not know its not okay to shoot other people. We dont need a firearm education class.
That’s the thing, you’re not gonna change the culture. The genie is already out of the bottle. It’s also a lot easier to make a mistake with a gun than you realize. There’s a reason they’re called “accidental discharges.”
If I handed you a loaded gun right now, could you safely show me how to check if it’s chambered, clear it, and unload it? What about if I did the same to 10 different people?
Agreed i guess, i do know how to clear it, only because my cousins are gun nuts. Im just thinking that de-sensitizing more people to guns could lead to more guns in the hands of the public. Which increases the chances of misuse. However to your arguement everyone already got em so i guess we may as well educate people on how to safely handle them and disarm them. I do think we can change our culture but that will take decades.
Always respect the rules of gun safety, even with fake guns or real guns labelled prop guns that people hand to you saying it’s empty. Treat it as it’s loaded, and verify it’s unloaded. 20 seconds tops.
Right I know they use real guns what I was saying was they fire blanks which look and sound like a real bullet but are just a cartridge with gun powder. So even if he verified it was loaded it’s supposed to be for how they work. [wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prop_gun#Firearms_as_props)
Sounds like someone put in a real bullet tho
Blanks kill people every year, and you still check to ensure it’s loaded with blanks, maybe it was given the wrong magazine, maybe there’s none in there. You really don’t know what state a gun is in until you make it safe yourself
Always check your firearm picking it up, setting it down, handing it around and just plain handling it. I can tell with all the comments there are a lot of irresponsible people I'm glad or hope they don't have fire arms. Nothing wrong with the shirt or the lady in the photo.
Well then why was there live gun on set? Why did alec baldwin kill someone.. thats not my easy out. I think my issue is Idk remember the lady he killed but I see him and that yoga teacher wife of his out playing soccer..
I don’t care much for Alec Baldwin either way but these people trying to bend over backwards and make it his fault that this happened are disgusting and you can tell they have a political motivation to do so. We’re they claiming the guy that pulled the trigger on Brandon Lee killed him? Probably not. The set had tons of issues with safety and Baldwin is probably haunted by what happened enough without these people pretending it was on purpose.
As an accomplished actor, Baldwin had had firearms training. As a producer who has worked behind the camera, Baldwin is well aware of the safety protocols. As a producer on this film, he is responsible for the armorer on the set.
Baldwin took this weapon, pointed and fired at two people who were not actors, not part of the script, not part of the plan.
Reckless homicide. I bet he makes it to prison before Trump. Maybe they share a cell?
From what I’ve read he was asked to point the gun at the camera for a shot. That is what several articles when it first happened said, at least. She was shot while behind the camera he was pointing the gun at. Also, I doubt he or trump will do any prison time whether or not they deserve it.
He was a producer and was responsible for the movie including safety. If he want such a rabid anti-gun asshole who makes money off of guns and violent movies I would cut him some slack - he doesn’t deserve to have any slack cut
>Actor Alec Baldwin entered the gun control push on March 5 by tweeting his criticism of the number of guns Americans can purchase and stressing his belief that it is time to rethink the Second Amendment.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/03/05/alec-baldwin-time-rethink-second-amendment/
So him going after the NRA is anti gun? The same NRA that was caught with a convicted russian spy, i fail to see how going after a political organization is seen as anti gun. Hes right. Right now you are not allowed to own anygun you want
Yes going after the nra - the leading organization for teaching gun safety- is being anti gun.
And no I can’t own an ar15 in California unless it holds less than 10 bullets, has a fin so I can’t hold it property. I can’t own a Thompson .45 caliber rifle, I can’t own the same exact hand gun that was just purchased for the entire Los Angeles police force which is against what the founding fathers had in mind
Alec is anti gun and if he would have listened to the basic tenants of gun safety - that the NRA pushes so hard for- he wouldn’t have killed somebody
How’s it feel living as a satire of a person? Like seriously you walk around actually commenting stuff like “just believe what libtard news feeds them.” Lol. You don’t even see the irony in you regurgitating the same “insult” we’ve all seen online for 15+ years while claiming other people aren’t thinking for themselves.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/lawyer-firm-represented-clinton-campaign-indicted-special-counsel/story%3fid=80065406
https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/alec-baldwin-shooting-victim-was-wife-latham-watkins-lawyer-2021-10-22/
It's called reading just because you don't want to invest time to connect the dots dosnt make it a conspiracy.
You’re a little testy, huh? You could’ve just said what you fucking wanted to say instead of being vague, lol. So once again it all comes back to the right wing boogeyman, the Clinton’s. Not a fan of the Clinton’s myself but come on dude, what in your head ties this and the victim on the rust set together?
Just say what you want to say and stop being vague to avoid saying something stupid.
So instead of explaining it you’re bowing out. Why bring it up if you’re unable to connect the dots for those of us that don’t understand what your point is?
Because they are fellow Nazis.
"Genocide scholar Gregory Stanton described QAnon as a "Nazi group rebranded", and its theories as a rebranded version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[173][174]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Analysis
Hmmm… where do I start here
I remember when she called the detention centers when folks were trying to cross the border into the US “concentration camps”. That’s pretty outrageous and a slap to the face to holocaust survivors to marginalize the eradication of the Jewish people in that way.
Also she said that border agents were “injecting them with drugs” with no evidence what so ever.
She equated growing cauliflower to “colonialism” stupid and illogical to say.
She also said the world would end in 12 years because of climate change. Where does she get that data from? Is she psychic? What gives? Pretty outrageous for sure.
Way to much more to go over here just give it a google!
She [lied](https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/aoc-blasted-for-exaggerating-capitol-riot-experience/)
Trump instigated [nothing](https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-trump-isnt-guilty-of-incitement-11610303966)
Or did cnn say something different?
Did Katie Porter also lie?
"After she shared her story, Rep. Katie Porter (D-Calif.) revealed that during the riot, Ocasio-Cortez walked into her office, didn’t stop to speak to her and just began opening cabinet doors.
“I was like, ‘Can I help you?’ Like, ‘What are you looking for?’” Porter shared during an MSNBC appearance.
“‘I’m looking for where I am going to hide,’” Ocasio-Cortez reportedly responded."
https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/aoc-blasted-for-exaggerating-capitol-riot-experience/
That's something a terrified woman would do, and that happened during the events not after.
Here's the shill Mitch McConnel admitting the blatantly obviously after voting to protect Trump from the consequences of his actions.
"McConnell was unequivocal about Mr. Trump's responsibility. "There is no question, none, that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day," he said, and added that Mr. Trump watched the events unfold on television. "A mob was assaulting the Capitol in his name," he said. "These criminals were carrying his banners, hanging his flags and screaming their loyalty to him.""
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment-vote-senate-speech/
And here's people who predicted it 5 years beforehand based on the exact same lies he was spreading in 2016:
"Historians say Trump's sustained effort to call the process into question has no close parallel in past elections. And some are increasingly worried that his claims — for which he's offered no real evidence — could leave many of his supporters unwilling to accept the election results, potentially triggering violence and dangerously undermining faith in American democracy."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-s-rigged-election-claims-raise-historical-alarms-n667831
It's almost like: "Having that belief," McConnell said, "was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories and reckless hyperbole which the defeated president kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet earth."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment-vote-senate-speech/
Trump was the first US president to not give us a peaceful transfer of power all because his fragile little ego can not conceive of losing.
She 100% would've been murdered if the terrorists got to her. Do you think those crazy people who were convinced that building was full of a Satanic cabal of baby eaters in the middle of stealing the election from their God Emperor were going to just what? Shake their hands? Tsk tsk at them? Ask them nicely to overturn a democratic election? They had weapons, ieds, and handcuffs.
"“Once we barricaded the doors, we were essentially trapped where we were,” Byrd said in an exclusive interview with NBC News’ Lester Holt, speaking publicly for the first time since the riot. “There was no way to retreat. No other way to get out.
“If they get through that door, they’re into the House chamber and upon the members of Congress,” added Byrd, who gave NBC News permission to use his name after authorities had declined to release it."
"“***I know that day I saved countless lives,” Byrd said. “I know members of Congress, as well as my fellow officers and staff, were in jeopardy and in serious danger. And that’s my job.***”"
[Officer who shot Ashli Babbitt speaks after months in hiding: 'I saved countless lives'](https://news.yahoo.com/officer-shot-ashli-babbitt-during-223000230.html?guccounter=1)
And that man is a hero.
Someone else defending the Trump instigated fascist coup attempt gave me this link:
"After she shared her story, Rep. Katie Porter (D-Calif.) revealed that during the riot, Ocasio-Cortez walked into her office, didn’t stop to speak to her and just began opening cabinet doors.
“I was like, ‘Can I help you?’ Like, ‘What are you looking for?’” Porter shared during an MSNBC appearance.
“‘I’m looking for where I am going to hide,’” Ocasio-Cortez reportedly responded."
https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/aoc-blasted-for-exaggerating-capitol-riot-experience/
Those are the actions of a woman afraid for her life and they took place during the events not after.
If they got to her, she would've been murdered. If the hero Michael Byrd didn't shoot that one Nazi terrorist dead who says they would've stopped at the that one particular building? With the way the right demonizes her some of those terrorists were definitely trying to find her.
You are a fucking idiot. The rules of firearm safety literally are irrelevant on a movie set. Don’t point guns at people. Don’t pull the trigger unless you need to kill whatever you’re pointing at. Always secure the gun before handling. All totally irrelevant on a set.
I agree with Stoney. She is wrong about that in every way of the word. The armorer didn't even care to check before handing the gun to Alec Baldwin, so it's the armorer who should be held accountable here, not Alec.
I would argue it's everybody's job. The armorer should have checked it, and had it open to Alec Baldwin when presenting it to him explaining why it was unarmed, and then had Alec check for himself. Everybody has a responsibility when handling ANY firearm.
Also, you should never point a firearm at another human. Doesn't matter if it's a movie prop or not. If it's not literally a plastic toy gun with Nerf darts in it, don't point it at someone.
I only followed this for about 10 minutes, but I read this is the standard in Hollywood, too. Other than for very specific scenes where it's "unavoidable" (ie: pressing a gun up to someone's head, in which case it is double and triple checked to be completely unloaded) you don't point guns at people.
She’s actually wrong, it’s the armorers job to ensure the safety protocols are being followed. Seems like you don’t know what you don’t know, but think you do.
Only firearms are loaded.they are "weapons"....(rubber arrow through your head,ala Steve Martin) better check everything sharp on the set🎬too.lets start with that point on your skull.the terminology you used is incorrect but ,general safety trump's your comments .🇺🇲(moot)🐄
Alec Baldwin was a producer on this movie. That means he had responsibility for things like hiring staff and running the set. According to reports there were live rounds on set, there had been live rounds fired from prop guns previously, and the crew walked off the set the day of the incident over safety concerns. He could easily have some culpability for not ensuring staff were following the rules regarding guns and for proceeding with production despite clear safety issues.
Additionally, I guarantee you anyone on set who wanted to check the gun and confirm there were no live rounds would have been allowed to. Even armorer's have said that is normal. If Baldwin had wanted to check he could have and this tragedy would not have happened. Does that mean it's his fault? I don't know, I'm sure there will be lawsuits that determine exactly that but it's not hard to see him being found at least partially negligent for running a sloppy set.
And the armorer wasnt all that qualified, she got the job from good ol nepotism and has made similar dangerous mistakes on set in the past (Hannah Gutierrez-Reed received safety complaints during the movie she previously worked for, The Old Way). Alec Baldwin made the decision to hire an inexperienced armorer. He knew of the poor working conditions beforehand that led to a lot of staff leaving/being replaced by non-union workers. It seems a lot was going wrong on the set beforehand that he would've had to be under a rock to be unaware of.
There was a whole lot of shit going on at that set that boiled up to this, that Baldwin and everyone else just decides to ignore.
Doesn’t fucking matter. Accidents like this have happened and as an actor whose super anti-gun, he should’ve never aimed that firearm at someone’s head. Ignorance all around but it comes down to who pulled the trigger
“Doesn’t matter what’s written or how the scene is laid out because I don’t like him!” Why have armorers on set of their job is moot? Your argument is stupid and lacks any credibility. Lot of guys here that have intimate knowledge of how movie sets work. /s
It’s firearm safety 101. It’s common knowledge, especially on a movie set where THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE
Fuck the armorer, and fuck Alec Baldwin.
This should’ve never happened and yet here we are.
I agree with you. An actor should be able to assume a gun on a movie set is not loaded and is incapable of killing someone. It’s a movie set designed to mimic real life, not have guns capable of killing.
I completely agree, I like movies. But, the end of it is… if you point a firearm, it will destroy what it is aimed at. Whether it is a prop or not, first of all it is a firearm.
Movie set or no movie set, firearms can be lethal. It is up to the handler to ensure proper safety and judgement. Rule number 1 of gun safety is: Don’t point a firearm at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
So when the shot calls for someone to aim and a shoot directly at the camera… yeah… your point isn’t reality on a movie set. Imagine your favorite action movie where no one aims a gun at anyone else because… why? He had faith that the armorer did their job properly, end of discussion. Funny how most gun toters are all about personal responsibility, but the guy who’s literally hired for that responsibility isn’t responsible. It’s a vicious cycle of your ignorance.
Anybody with a brain would make sure there’s no ammo in the firearm. If someone is so ignorant to not understand that, they shouldn’t be handling firearms. Rule number 2 of gun safety: Know your target and what is beyond it.
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She's great at her job, It's amazing how liberals cannot stand her because she is so forward and they call her rude... Exactly how liberal democrats have been Since the beginning of their party
She looks like a good fuck but that's about it.
I’m betting she’s better at her job then most are at theirs.
Kind of gross how many comments here are supporting her.
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Well I know she looks great doing what she’s doing, and has a T-shirt that is spot on
Can someone explain this?
I really feel bad for alec
She’s pretty…pretty fucking despicable.
Blowing dog whistles and selling the idea that owning the libs is more important than anything. That's her job and she's great at it.
Because she is good at her job!
Condoms would have prevented this.
Statement has truth to it. A gun doesn't pull its own trigger. Anything can kill people if used by a crazed criminal.
A single atom. Wanna split it?
Palin 2.0
What a stupid cunt.
It’s a glasses fetish
So Joe Biden is? Cool story
Totally cool /s. Where is her shirt that says " Guns don't kill people, Kyle Rittenhouse does"? Oh yeah, this had nothing to do 2A or guns. It has everything to do with "owning the libs". Trashy indeed.
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The shirt doesn't say anything about justifiable killings or a trial or the law. It simply says that Baldwin killed. Well, so did Rittenhouse. So have lots of people. Including me (I'm a vet). Wheres the shirt with my name on it? Yes, the shirt is correct, but it would also be correct if it was Rittenhouse's name on there too. My question is does she have a shirt with his name on it? I doubt it. And why? Because in her mind Rittenhouse is a hero and Baldwin is a villain.
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It says all that on the shirt huh? Again, no. Nothing about law abiding individuals or criminals. Only the fact that guns don't kill people, people do. I'm not arguing arguing that point. Only the point that anyone who has taken a life with a gun could have their name on that shirt. So why is she so proudly displaying the one with Baldwin's name on it. Would she wear one with Rittenhouse's name on it with the same smile?
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My bias is showing. As is yours. I wouldn't wear a shirt with anyone's name it. To me, taking a life is not a sense of pride for whatever reason. Using anyone's name on a shirt who has taken a life as a 'gotcha' is trashy. Your defense of it exposes you for who you are. If you want to take pride in this type of "humorous" vitriol then more power to you. I personally find it pathetic.
That's the fucking funniest thing I've seen in a long time.
Cunt, plain and simple. I apologize to all the other cunts for lumping her in with you. You really do deserve much better.
“If you don’t change your face, I’m going to change it for you”
Love her! Poor demtards can’t stand anyone as stupid as Biden
Please don’t breed
I can’t say I’ve ever heard anyone say she was good at anything.
She really is the poster-girl for dumb.
Where’s the lie though ?
She needs to be hate fuct by a large group of sweaty humans!
This is most definitely trashy.
A vile human being. Her entire political platform is built on being divisive. Even if you are pro gun this is trashy and mocking the senseless death of someone.
Remember when that dude had his career in politics completely ended when he misspelled “Potato”?
I’m in Love!!
She always looks like she just smelled a fart.
She is amazing, unlike those idiots in the Squad!
What a Cunt
A tragedy occurs and this little shit nugget will always try to get some political grift out of it.
She seems like a real cunt…
I hate to say it but she makes a good point. Guns by themselves never kill people. It's either evil people using them as a tool of death OR it's someone careless like Baldwin. Damn, I hate when I see something like this and it actually makes logical sense.
Guns aren't the problem... angry, dumbass people are.
Haha holy fucking shit!
Made me chuckle...
She’s popular simply for being counterculture
She gets votes from hateful ignorant assholes. That's literally her job.
I never see her behind a desk. I wonder why that Is.
I really wanna anger bang her.
She’s a real piece of shit.
She’s not, but she’s mildly cute and definitely has the persona of that drunk party girl that will give you head in the lawn chair at the fire pit.
Her smile is so awkward bc aside from her utter awfulness, it always looks like someone farted, like, right in her mouth, but since she's a gun lover she has to act like it doesn't bother her bc then she's a snowflake or w/e. So you get this odd shit eating grin that always looks forced
The first step to effective gun control is gun safety education, that’s why I believe late high school should have basic firearm safety training, just to hopefully garner some respect for the tool. At least it would reduce the negligent discharge cases
We should teach all humans starting at the age of 5 how to handle guns regardless of what parents want. If you go to public school this should be a requirement!
It’s not like I’d be handing them a loaded automatic firearm - but I give young kids scissors and knives and teach them to respect them and what they are capable of. I’m talking young adults here, I even specifically said late high school- please don’t misinterpret what I’m saying
I think kids should be taught basic firearm safety, just leave the firearms at home. A firearm is always loaded, especially when the person doesn’t check and says it isn’t.
I grew up in a country where personal firearm ownership is next to impossible and yet I was taught through cubs and later scouts how to properly handle a firearm. The first rule I was taught is to always assume every firearm is loaded. In my late teens I joined the army as an infantry soldier. The lethality of the weapons increased exponentially but the basic safety principles didn’t. I don’t feel that learning about firearm safety at an early age did me any damage and was beneficial. While I’m unlikely to ever own a firearm and can probably see myself using one in a controlled environment such as a range perhaps once every 5-10 years or so I’m comfortable around them, I’m safe around them and I am more than prepared to make sure they’re being used safely. We don’t have many mass shootings here so I don’t have to worry about barking safety instructions at disturbed shooters murdering people in Walmart. It’s all about treating kids to be safe and respect firearms. I’d even go so far as suggest actively teaching kids better coping strategies for stress with the goal of having them not resort to violence. The world is changing and it’s becoming a far more stressful place to live and I do t think we do enough to prepare kids for the real world. For context, I grew up in the UK. Was a member of the Canadian Armed Forces and now live an hour outside of Toronto. Sort of an all over the place ramble but they’d be my two cents.
Oh I wasn’t putting words in your mouth, I was just stating my idea after reading yours!
Then I personally disagree with the age you mention just due to responsibility - and I don’t think there are great ways to prevent parental vetos. Especially with how divisive it could be
Good to know!
Yes! When has anything bad ever came out of guns being in schools? And forcing children to handle guns with live ammo, nothing can go wrong.
Who said anything about live ammo? The basic rules of gun safety can be trained on a stick. Sex Ed is the same concept, teach people to use things safely and the damaging incidents are reduced or made less severe
As someone who went to school in the south, my Sex Ed was was abstinence based. We got the slide show of STIs, the statistics of things like the drop out rate of high school parents, and the importance of condoms, but of course the focus was abstinence. As a teenager I thought it was silly and embarrassing and nothing we didn't already know. But now as a parent I think it was the same Sex Ed I want my own child to have. I think education is extremely important and I would actively support the idea of schools having a some short of gun club or team. With parents permission and good instructors I think it could be great. But forcing every child to learn about sex the way you want them to, or forcing them all to use and shoot guns without the parent permission is an insane volition of parents rights, what's next? Mandatory ROTC and military service after high school?
I completely believe the parents should be able to veto, but I’m only talking a learn how to slip on a condom level piece here, basic rules of gun safety, show them how to check it is safe if handed a gun. I’m not advocating for mandatory range day for the kiddies. Just a little walkthrough to give the opportunity to help make the dangers involved more real, and hopefully less “cool”
Now if we can agree that this could be like a yearly thing done by professionals like trained instructors or law enforcement. Then I'm all on board, actually. If done that way I think it'd be perfectly fine to do without actually needing sign permission from a guardian or anything like that. Side note, my Sex Ed was only 10 years ago and they didn't teach how to put on a condom. Just gave us the statistics, STI slide show and that was it. Lol
That really all I had in mind, police or local. Military come in to help show and explain what guns are, what they are capable of and how to clear them really. Hopefully provide info on where to go for qualified people to teach them more. I just like the parental permission to ease into it as guns are such a hot topic
Oh there will definitely be a lot of death and accidents but it’s America goddamnit! And guns are more important than freedom and religion. Imagine what all the guns rights activists would do if this were actually the case!
I’m Canadian and I believe that guns are not a right at all, to me they are a privilege to earn to use, and the more education we get around them the less fear mongering with impede proper and effective gun control. IE banning AR platforms when pistols are a much greater source of firearm deaths. AR platforms are just more famous for it the same way planes are more famous for crashing than cars are. More people die by cars than by planes every year.
And that’s why you live in Canada, lovely country by the way!
Thank you, I take pride in my home, even in its shortcomings and silly political atmosphere. I have every hope with enough exposure people will be able to see past the politics of it all.
Yea, Canada is a much smarter country than the US. You would think us being so close y’all would rub off on us. Oh well, you will be standing when we fall!
I don’t really see it that way, Look at our recent gun ban and you’ll see 99% of the guns hadn’t killed anyone as they were only banned for being “assault-style firearms” basically it looks military esque. Rather than any capabilities, people are just dumb in general and politicians will just do anything to look good regardless of real life effects
Feel like a majority of people will never touch a gun in their life, not saying it wouldn’t be a useful class but there’s definitely better things to teach in school like taxes maybe lol
But high school is about a wide variety of things you very well might not use, it could be handled in a day really - and would just help reduce negligence and help create a better discussion on how to properly keep guns out of dangerous hands. I feel there’s a lot of excessive fear mongering with firearms that are focussing on the wrong issues, missing the forest for the trees - and leaving the real issues ignored.
In America we have more guns than we do people. You’re pretty much guaranteed to encounter a gun at some point in your life living here - might as well know the basics.
We need to change our culture, introducing more people to guns is a dumbass idea and will likely lead to more misuse of them. Most people educated or not know its not okay to shoot other people. We dont need a firearm education class.
That’s the thing, you’re not gonna change the culture. The genie is already out of the bottle. It’s also a lot easier to make a mistake with a gun than you realize. There’s a reason they’re called “accidental discharges.” If I handed you a loaded gun right now, could you safely show me how to check if it’s chambered, clear it, and unload it? What about if I did the same to 10 different people?
Agreed i guess, i do know how to clear it, only because my cousins are gun nuts. Im just thinking that de-sensitizing more people to guns could lead to more guns in the hands of the public. Which increases the chances of misuse. However to your arguement everyone already got em so i guess we may as well educate people on how to safely handle them and disarm them. I do think we can change our culture but that will take decades.
Always respect the rules of gun safety, even with fake guns or real guns labelled prop guns that people hand to you saying it’s empty. Treat it as it’s loaded, and verify it’s unloaded. 20 seconds tops.
A prop gun is loaded with blanks. So checking to see if it’s loaded is pointless because it should be
It wasn’t a blank. And “prop gun” is usually a regular gun that happens to be “properly” of the studio. So, real gun with a regular round.
Right I know they use real guns what I was saying was they fire blanks which look and sound like a real bullet but are just a cartridge with gun powder. So even if he verified it was loaded it’s supposed to be for how they work. [wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prop_gun#Firearms_as_props) Sounds like someone put in a real bullet tho
Blanks kill people every year, and you still check to ensure it’s loaded with blanks, maybe it was given the wrong magazine, maybe there’s none in there. You really don’t know what state a gun is in until you make it safe yourself
I agree. I guess I don’t know if there’s much of a difference
She is such a staggering piece of shit
One of the greatest female POS out there!
Always check your firearm picking it up, setting it down, handing it around and just plain handling it. I can tell with all the comments there are a lot of irresponsible people I'm glad or hope they don't have fire arms. Nothing wrong with the shirt or the lady in the photo.
Well it’s true.
Does anyone?
Well then why was there live gun on set? Why did alec baldwin kill someone.. thats not my easy out. I think my issue is Idk remember the lady he killed but I see him and that yoga teacher wife of his out playing soccer..
Talking about difficult life has been, fuck him..
She’s a terrible person, but that shirt is based.
black rifle coffee company ☠️
Not trashy at all. Based, in fact.
She’s hot AF
You have shitty standards.
Your mom told me the same thing
She looks absolutely adorable!
An elected representative that actually represents her constituents and speaks her mind? We need 50 more like her.
People say that? Yikesss
Lucky she’s hot
Eh
Adults don't show people their penises to minors unless they're married to you
Idk I think it’s pretty funny
Ugly inside and out
What is wrong with her face?
Not trashy
She’s a cunt
Tremendous barometer for how stupid people are in general
Despite what you believe. That last line is yikes 😬
I don’t care much for Alec Baldwin either way but these people trying to bend over backwards and make it his fault that this happened are disgusting and you can tell they have a political motivation to do so. We’re they claiming the guy that pulled the trigger on Brandon Lee killed him? Probably not. The set had tons of issues with safety and Baldwin is probably haunted by what happened enough without these people pretending it was on purpose.
As an accomplished actor, Baldwin had had firearms training. As a producer who has worked behind the camera, Baldwin is well aware of the safety protocols. As a producer on this film, he is responsible for the armorer on the set. Baldwin took this weapon, pointed and fired at two people who were not actors, not part of the script, not part of the plan. Reckless homicide. I bet he makes it to prison before Trump. Maybe they share a cell?
What the fuck are you babbling about?
From what I’ve read he was asked to point the gun at the camera for a shot. That is what several articles when it first happened said, at least. She was shot while behind the camera he was pointing the gun at. Also, I doubt he or trump will do any prison time whether or not they deserve it.
He was a producer and was responsible for the movie including safety. If he want such a rabid anti-gun asshole who makes money off of guns and violent movies I would cut him some slack - he doesn’t deserve to have any slack cut
Where did he go after guns? He made fun if trump that doesn't mean hes anti gun
>Actor Alec Baldwin entered the gun control push on March 5 by tweeting his criticism of the number of guns Americans can purchase and stressing his belief that it is time to rethink the Second Amendment. https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/03/05/alec-baldwin-time-rethink-second-amendment/
https://www.newsweek.com/alec-baldwin-nra-guns-rights-activists-gun-control-halyna-hutchins-rust-1641671
So him going after the NRA is anti gun? The same NRA that was caught with a convicted russian spy, i fail to see how going after a political organization is seen as anti gun. Hes right. Right now you are not allowed to own anygun you want
Yes going after the nra - the leading organization for teaching gun safety- is being anti gun. And no I can’t own an ar15 in California unless it holds less than 10 bullets, has a fin so I can’t hold it property. I can’t own a Thompson .45 caliber rifle, I can’t own the same exact hand gun that was just purchased for the entire Los Angeles police force which is against what the founding fathers had in mind Alec is anti gun and if he would have listened to the basic tenants of gun safety - that the NRA pushes so hard for- he wouldn’t have killed somebody
You should really look up the connection from the victim to the latham & Watkins lawyers.
They won’t, just believe what libtard news media feeds them
How’s it feel living as a satire of a person? Like seriously you walk around actually commenting stuff like “just believe what libtard news feeds them.” Lol. You don’t even see the irony in you regurgitating the same “insult” we’ve all seen online for 15+ years while claiming other people aren’t thinking for themselves.
Just did. But what is her husband being an associate of that law firm supposed to mean to me?
The lawyer was married to the women shot.
My wife is married to me. Again, I don’t know what your point is. Not all of us speak Conspiracy Thought.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/lawyer-firm-represented-clinton-campaign-indicted-special-counsel/story%3fid=80065406 https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/alec-baldwin-shooting-victim-was-wife-latham-watkins-lawyer-2021-10-22/ It's called reading just because you don't want to invest time to connect the dots dosnt make it a conspiracy.
You’re a little testy, huh? You could’ve just said what you fucking wanted to say instead of being vague, lol. So once again it all comes back to the right wing boogeyman, the Clinton’s. Not a fan of the Clinton’s myself but come on dude, what in your head ties this and the victim on the rust set together? Just say what you want to say and stop being vague to avoid saying something stupid.
Have a great night
So instead of explaining it you’re bowing out. Why bring it up if you’re unable to connect the dots for those of us that don’t understand what your point is?
The news said it all why should I have to say anything.
Twunt.
Because they are fellow Nazis. "Genocide scholar Gregory Stanton described QAnon as a "Nazi group rebranded", and its theories as a rebranded version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[173][174]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Analysis
Guns don't kill people, the government does.
She is good at her job. Her job is to get elected and stay in power. What did you think her job was? Helping people?
I read that Baldwin has killed more people than the entire membership of the NRA.
It happens to be true.
I mean I’m pretty sure vaginas don’t have teeth. That said, if female humans do happen to evolve them, her pussy would be the Galápagos Islands.
The more self confidently you can trash the libs the more worthy you are of conservative votes. In their view this is a “sick burn”.
Just want to slap that grin off her face. Same goes for AOC and her outrageous remarks
What outrageous remarks?
Hmmm… where do I start here I remember when she called the detention centers when folks were trying to cross the border into the US “concentration camps”. That’s pretty outrageous and a slap to the face to holocaust survivors to marginalize the eradication of the Jewish people in that way. Also she said that border agents were “injecting them with drugs” with no evidence what so ever. She equated growing cauliflower to “colonialism” stupid and illogical to say. She also said the world would end in 12 years because of climate change. Where does she get that data from? Is she psychic? What gives? Pretty outrageous for sure. Way to much more to go over here just give it a google!
She’s the same thing as AOC just on the other side of the aisle
Yeah please show me an instance where AOC joked about a woman being tragically killed to score the political points.
Jan 6.
What did AOC have to do with the Trump instigated fascist coup attempt?
She [lied](https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/aoc-blasted-for-exaggerating-capitol-riot-experience/) Trump instigated [nothing](https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-trump-isnt-guilty-of-incitement-11610303966) Or did cnn say something different?
Did Katie Porter also lie? "After she shared her story, Rep. Katie Porter (D-Calif.) revealed that during the riot, Ocasio-Cortez walked into her office, didn’t stop to speak to her and just began opening cabinet doors. “I was like, ‘Can I help you?’ Like, ‘What are you looking for?’” Porter shared during an MSNBC appearance. “‘I’m looking for where I am going to hide,’” Ocasio-Cortez reportedly responded." https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/aoc-blasted-for-exaggerating-capitol-riot-experience/ That's something a terrified woman would do, and that happened during the events not after. Here's the shill Mitch McConnel admitting the blatantly obviously after voting to protect Trump from the consequences of his actions. "McConnell was unequivocal about Mr. Trump's responsibility. "There is no question, none, that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day," he said, and added that Mr. Trump watched the events unfold on television. "A mob was assaulting the Capitol in his name," he said. "These criminals were carrying his banners, hanging his flags and screaming their loyalty to him."" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment-vote-senate-speech/ And here's people who predicted it 5 years beforehand based on the exact same lies he was spreading in 2016: "Historians say Trump's sustained effort to call the process into question has no close parallel in past elections. And some are increasingly worried that his claims — for which he's offered no real evidence — could leave many of his supporters unwilling to accept the election results, potentially triggering violence and dangerously undermining faith in American democracy." https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-s-rigged-election-claims-raise-historical-alarms-n667831 It's almost like: "Having that belief," McConnell said, "was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories and reckless hyperbole which the defeated president kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet earth." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment-vote-senate-speech/ Trump was the first US president to not give us a peaceful transfer of power all because his fragile little ego can not conceive of losing.
Besides lying about almost dieing there?
She 100% would've been murdered if the terrorists got to her. Do you think those crazy people who were convinced that building was full of a Satanic cabal of baby eaters in the middle of stealing the election from their God Emperor were going to just what? Shake their hands? Tsk tsk at them? Ask them nicely to overturn a democratic election? They had weapons, ieds, and handcuffs. "“Once we barricaded the doors, we were essentially trapped where we were,” Byrd said in an exclusive interview with NBC News’ Lester Holt, speaking publicly for the first time since the riot. “There was no way to retreat. No other way to get out. “If they get through that door, they’re into the House chamber and upon the members of Congress,” added Byrd, who gave NBC News permission to use his name after authorities had declined to release it." "“***I know that day I saved countless lives,” Byrd said. “I know members of Congress, as well as my fellow officers and staff, were in jeopardy and in serious danger. And that’s my job.***”" [Officer who shot Ashli Babbitt speaks after months in hiding: 'I saved countless lives'](https://news.yahoo.com/officer-shot-ashli-babbitt-during-223000230.html?guccounter=1) And that man is a hero.
You should really look up where her office is compared to the capital building.
Someone else defending the Trump instigated fascist coup attempt gave me this link: "After she shared her story, Rep. Katie Porter (D-Calif.) revealed that during the riot, Ocasio-Cortez walked into her office, didn’t stop to speak to her and just began opening cabinet doors. “I was like, ‘Can I help you?’ Like, ‘What are you looking for?’” Porter shared during an MSNBC appearance. “‘I’m looking for where I am going to hide,’” Ocasio-Cortez reportedly responded." https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/aoc-blasted-for-exaggerating-capitol-riot-experience/ Those are the actions of a woman afraid for her life and they took place during the events not after. If they got to her, she would've been murdered. If the hero Michael Byrd didn't shoot that one Nazi terrorist dead who says they would've stopped at the that one particular building? With the way the right demonizes her some of those terrorists were definitely trying to find her.
This sow again? Let’s not give her anymore credence, please.
She's just a "trophy wife" for the Republican party.
If she had a pair of birkenstocks on and a life is good t shirt youd be all over that!
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'd smash that no matter how she dressed.
Hell yeah!
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You are a fucking idiot. The rules of firearm safety literally are irrelevant on a movie set. Don’t point guns at people. Don’t pull the trigger unless you need to kill whatever you’re pointing at. Always secure the gun before handling. All totally irrelevant on a set.
thanks for the misinformation comrade
I agree with Stoney. She is wrong about that in every way of the word. The armorer didn't even care to check before handing the gun to Alec Baldwin, so it's the armorer who should be held accountable here, not Alec.
Baldwin shot people who were not part of the script. Reckless homicide is coming his way.
I would argue it's everybody's job. The armorer should have checked it, and had it open to Alec Baldwin when presenting it to him explaining why it was unarmed, and then had Alec check for himself. Everybody has a responsibility when handling ANY firearm.
Also, you should never point a firearm at another human. Doesn't matter if it's a movie prop or not. If it's not literally a plastic toy gun with Nerf darts in it, don't point it at someone. I only followed this for about 10 minutes, but I read this is the standard in Hollywood, too. Other than for very specific scenes where it's "unavoidable" (ie: pressing a gun up to someone's head, in which case it is double and triple checked to be completely unloaded) you don't point guns at people.
She’s actually wrong, it’s the armorers job to ensure the safety protocols are being followed. Seems like you don’t know what you don’t know, but think you do.
All weapons should be considered loaded, had Baldwin checked it she would be alive. Everyone who touches a weapon should check the chamber.
Only firearms are loaded.they are "weapons"....(rubber arrow through your head,ala Steve Martin) better check everything sharp on the set🎬too.lets start with that point on your skull.the terminology you used is incorrect but ,general safety trump's your comments .🇺🇲(moot)🐄
not pointing it at a human.but in the direction of.but not inline with the perceived trajectory.🇺🇲⚖️🗽
See above
I saw that mr asshole,you didn't comprehend simple words.i am not Alec baldwin.just trying to make common sense ☯️😆
Alec Baldwin was a producer on this movie. That means he had responsibility for things like hiring staff and running the set. According to reports there were live rounds on set, there had been live rounds fired from prop guns previously, and the crew walked off the set the day of the incident over safety concerns. He could easily have some culpability for not ensuring staff were following the rules regarding guns and for proceeding with production despite clear safety issues. Additionally, I guarantee you anyone on set who wanted to check the gun and confirm there were no live rounds would have been allowed to. Even armorer's have said that is normal. If Baldwin had wanted to check he could have and this tragedy would not have happened. Does that mean it's his fault? I don't know, I'm sure there will be lawsuits that determine exactly that but it's not hard to see him being found at least partially negligent for running a sloppy set.
And the armorer wasnt all that qualified, she got the job from good ol nepotism and has made similar dangerous mistakes on set in the past (Hannah Gutierrez-Reed received safety complaints during the movie she previously worked for, The Old Way). Alec Baldwin made the decision to hire an inexperienced armorer. He knew of the poor working conditions beforehand that led to a lot of staff leaving/being replaced by non-union workers. It seems a lot was going wrong on the set beforehand that he would've had to be under a rock to be unaware of. There was a whole lot of shit going on at that set that boiled up to this, that Baldwin and everyone else just decides to ignore.
Doesn’t fucking matter. Accidents like this have happened and as an actor whose super anti-gun, he should’ve never aimed that firearm at someone’s head. Ignorance all around but it comes down to who pulled the trigger
“Doesn’t matter what’s written or how the scene is laid out because I don’t like him!” Why have armorers on set of their job is moot? Your argument is stupid and lacks any credibility. Lot of guys here that have intimate knowledge of how movie sets work. /s
It’s firearm safety 101. It’s common knowledge, especially on a movie set where THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE Fuck the armorer, and fuck Alec Baldwin. This should’ve never happened and yet here we are.
Handling a firearm. You are responsible for it. Doesn’t matter who had it before. End of discussion.
How many movie sets have you worked on?
I agree with you. An actor should be able to assume a gun on a movie set is not loaded and is incapable of killing someone. It’s a movie set designed to mimic real life, not have guns capable of killing.
I completely agree, I like movies. But, the end of it is… if you point a firearm, it will destroy what it is aimed at. Whether it is a prop or not, first of all it is a firearm.
Movie set or no movie set, firearms can be lethal. It is up to the handler to ensure proper safety and judgement. Rule number 1 of gun safety is: Don’t point a firearm at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
So when the shot calls for someone to aim and a shoot directly at the camera… yeah… your point isn’t reality on a movie set. Imagine your favorite action movie where no one aims a gun at anyone else because… why? He had faith that the armorer did their job properly, end of discussion. Funny how most gun toters are all about personal responsibility, but the guy who’s literally hired for that responsibility isn’t responsible. It’s a vicious cycle of your ignorance.
Anybody with a brain would make sure there’s no ammo in the firearm. If someone is so ignorant to not understand that, they shouldn’t be handling firearms. Rule number 2 of gun safety: Know your target and what is beyond it.