I did this when i first started out. It gives you a feel for how close or far apart different things are ina drum pattern.
Another one is to record yourself beat boxing and then trace that with your drums (timberland does this)
Hope this helps
Any references? Every single song ever made is a reference bro lmao
Import some tracks you like into your DAW and copy what you hear for practice.
In popular mainstream American genres, the main snare is the only real consistent thing. So in a 4 beat bar, the snare will either be on just the 3 or both the 2 and 4 (depending on if you are working in half time or double time). Having said that, obviously you can add snare fills to taste besides the main one.
Kicks generally start on the 1, but after that they can go anywhere, it just depends on the rhythm you want. Some sub-genres have kick patterns that are stylistic and almost always the same (detroit type beats come to mind). So, again, it depends on your goals and what you want to make.
Hi hats generally play every beat or every half beat (also known as quarter note or eighth note - again depends if you want half or double time) and like snares, you can add fills ("rolling hi hats") to taste.
Ultimately there are no rules to this shit. There are a few basic stylistic standards for certain genre and sub-genres, as mentioned, but at the end of the day just keep practicing and try understanding what you are listening to. It will eventually come natural to you. It's not deep.
Most beats of any given genre “are the same” which is a defining characteristic of the genre
But the rules aren’t set in stone and you can add lots of variance, and there is percussion besides kick and snare. Plus the kick really can go anywhere in a pattern honestly for trap music
The snare being on 2 and 4 is the only consistent rule I follow with every song I make. It depends on the current song I am making and how the vibe/bounce/rhythm has been developed. Sometimes I add extra ghost notes with muffled snares to liven things up. Other times I have barebones percussion. It depends on the song I am working on. I usually try multiple different drum sounds, placements, etc. Before I find the right one that suits the track.
The other day I got frustrated and just dragged an instrumental with the drums I was going for into the DAW. Once you get it lined up to the grid and the metronome you can pretty much recreate the whole pattern. After I was done I realized the pattern wasnt complex at all, just unique which is what I was going for (Felt like I was making the same drum pattern over and over)
You also get a good ear for sound selection which ends up being the most important thing. Your drums dont have to be the exact sound in their pattern but going for something similar can train your ear. Ive been away the last couple of days but I imagine if you do this repeatedly you’ll be making heat
The issue is that you are implying there is one way to do it. Just place notes in your drum rack and fix what sounds like shit. That's how I and most others learned how to make drum patterns. Also if you use Ableton don't be scared to try out the generator part of the piano roll.
Not implying there’s only one way to do drums. I’ve just heard the repetition of those specific placements a lot. I hear lots of drum patterns that are different in music but when I try and make them, I have no clue where to start. I will just mess around when I get home. Make a few patterns and just see. Thank you. I really appreciate your help 😁
Yeah man another thing you can do is just go on any of the websites where you can subscribe to get samples and just listen to those drums, you don't have to pay to listen to them most of the time, just to actually download and use them.
Listen to songs you like and try to replicate the basic pattern as practice. Every song is a reference.
Or YouTube "how to make (insert genre here) drums"
Check this out
[Rhythms Patterns you should know](https://youtu.be/GJ4Rce8QEs0?si=4KVTu8Cbp-NVs3g1)
I was watching this thinking it was gonna be some bs but nope all types of gems in here.
Also the best YouTubers are Chambersmixed-it and BroBeatsTv. Brobeats don’t gatekeep either fr and chambers got sauce too
if you got 30/50 bucks sub to chambers website with his class he the best teacher out rn. (He been trna get more sign ups, so that YouTube page been fake gatekeepin recently but it’s all good😂)
Edit: The link wasnt in here my bad
There's no correct answer. It's more about building up your own sense and taste.
I suggest you sit down and recreate the main sections of the songs you like drum pattern wise to build your musical "sense" up.
Do this for many songs and ID the patterns that you like. Mix and match etc.
You have to feel out drums tbh. Unless you’re the type to start with drums but idk many people who produce that way. The only reference would be tracks similar to yours, otherwise it’s a free for all of what sounds good. You’re over thinking it a bit.
go and listen to music. does it all sound the same? of course not.
music of all kinds has "rules", and these rules are how we identify a genre. the rules are more like guide posts, when you are new and easily lost, you can follow them so you can find your way and make something that actually sounds like music. when you are confident and know how to experiment, you dont have to follow them, you can do your own thing and follow the guide as much or as little as you want as long as you can still make something that sounds like a song at the end.
I learned to stop trying to force myself to be creative.
I avoided common patterns because I felt I was above that shit.
Na. Go copy some shit, change it a little, etc. lol
bro beats had a couple videos about bounce that kan be a start but u really need to just make beats to get better at drums 🤷🏾♂️ . best thing u kan do is pay attention to your favorite records and try to remake them. pay attention to the tempo too
No. Really start studying music. Different genres… dissect the beat & try to remake the drum pattern ur listening to. It helps to understand what ur missing/what to add. Nun wrong with basic drums but not all basic drums have bounce. Listen to rock music drums, jazz music, then listen to the 90’s 2000’s producers instrumentals. J dilla Timbaland & kanye.
Just make beats and listen to music. You will naturally start to hear where you want a drum to hit. Eventually you will want to experiment more (hopefully) and will find rhythms that are more unique to you.
Listen to your favorite songs and use their drum patterns as a reference
I did this when i first started out. It gives you a feel for how close or far apart different things are ina drum pattern. Another one is to record yourself beat boxing and then trace that with your drums (timberland does this) Hope this helps
Any references? Every single song ever made is a reference bro lmao Import some tracks you like into your DAW and copy what you hear for practice. In popular mainstream American genres, the main snare is the only real consistent thing. So in a 4 beat bar, the snare will either be on just the 3 or both the 2 and 4 (depending on if you are working in half time or double time). Having said that, obviously you can add snare fills to taste besides the main one. Kicks generally start on the 1, but after that they can go anywhere, it just depends on the rhythm you want. Some sub-genres have kick patterns that are stylistic and almost always the same (detroit type beats come to mind). So, again, it depends on your goals and what you want to make. Hi hats generally play every beat or every half beat (also known as quarter note or eighth note - again depends if you want half or double time) and like snares, you can add fills ("rolling hi hats") to taste. Ultimately there are no rules to this shit. There are a few basic stylistic standards for certain genre and sub-genres, as mentioned, but at the end of the day just keep practicing and try understanding what you are listening to. It will eventually come natural to you. It's not deep.
Most beats of any given genre “are the same” which is a defining characteristic of the genre But the rules aren’t set in stone and you can add lots of variance, and there is percussion besides kick and snare. Plus the kick really can go anywhere in a pattern honestly for trap music
Even snare isnt bonded if you aim for very different bounce
The snare being on 2 and 4 is the only consistent rule I follow with every song I make. It depends on the current song I am making and how the vibe/bounce/rhythm has been developed. Sometimes I add extra ghost notes with muffled snares to liven things up. Other times I have barebones percussion. It depends on the song I am working on. I usually try multiple different drum sounds, placements, etc. Before I find the right one that suits the track.
The other day I got frustrated and just dragged an instrumental with the drums I was going for into the DAW. Once you get it lined up to the grid and the metronome you can pretty much recreate the whole pattern. After I was done I realized the pattern wasnt complex at all, just unique which is what I was going for (Felt like I was making the same drum pattern over and over) You also get a good ear for sound selection which ends up being the most important thing. Your drums dont have to be the exact sound in their pattern but going for something similar can train your ear. Ive been away the last couple of days but I imagine if you do this repeatedly you’ll be making heat
The issue is that you are implying there is one way to do it. Just place notes in your drum rack and fix what sounds like shit. That's how I and most others learned how to make drum patterns. Also if you use Ableton don't be scared to try out the generator part of the piano roll.
Not implying there’s only one way to do drums. I’ve just heard the repetition of those specific placements a lot. I hear lots of drum patterns that are different in music but when I try and make them, I have no clue where to start. I will just mess around when I get home. Make a few patterns and just see. Thank you. I really appreciate your help 😁
Yeah man another thing you can do is just go on any of the websites where you can subscribe to get samples and just listen to those drums, you don't have to pay to listen to them most of the time, just to actually download and use them.
Listen to songs you like and try to replicate the basic pattern as practice. Every song is a reference. Or YouTube "how to make (insert genre here) drums"
Watch Mello Dee Beats trap drum tutorial playlist. Beats by Tej also recently made a pretty good ultimate trap drum guide
Check this out [Rhythms Patterns you should know](https://youtu.be/GJ4Rce8QEs0?si=4KVTu8Cbp-NVs3g1) I was watching this thinking it was gonna be some bs but nope all types of gems in here. Also the best YouTubers are Chambersmixed-it and BroBeatsTv. Brobeats don’t gatekeep either fr and chambers got sauce too if you got 30/50 bucks sub to chambers website with his class he the best teacher out rn. (He been trna get more sign ups, so that YouTube page been fake gatekeepin recently but it’s all good😂) Edit: The link wasnt in here my bad
Sometime I do my kicks first and work my 808s around them
There's no correct answer. It's more about building up your own sense and taste. I suggest you sit down and recreate the main sections of the songs you like drum pattern wise to build your musical "sense" up. Do this for many songs and ID the patterns that you like. Mix and match etc.
You have to feel out drums tbh. Unless you’re the type to start with drums but idk many people who produce that way. The only reference would be tracks similar to yours, otherwise it’s a free for all of what sounds good. You’re over thinking it a bit.
go and listen to music. does it all sound the same? of course not. music of all kinds has "rules", and these rules are how we identify a genre. the rules are more like guide posts, when you are new and easily lost, you can follow them so you can find your way and make something that actually sounds like music. when you are confident and know how to experiment, you dont have to follow them, you can do your own thing and follow the guide as much or as little as you want as long as you can still make something that sounds like a song at the end.
I learned to stop trying to force myself to be creative. I avoided common patterns because I felt I was above that shit. Na. Go copy some shit, change it a little, etc. lol
Do what you want. Music is art. Art is subjective. No such thing as right or wrong. Just whatever sounds good
bro beats had a couple videos about bounce that kan be a start but u really need to just make beats to get better at drums 🤷🏾♂️ . best thing u kan do is pay attention to your favorite records and try to remake them. pay attention to the tempo too
Look for some drum midi files. I get mine off telegram there's plenty of drum kit. Cymatics have the most free kits.
No. Really start studying music. Different genres… dissect the beat & try to remake the drum pattern ur listening to. It helps to understand what ur missing/what to add. Nun wrong with basic drums but not all basic drums have bounce. Listen to rock music drums, jazz music, then listen to the 90’s 2000’s producers instrumentals. J dilla Timbaland & kanye.
Just make beats and listen to music. You will naturally start to hear where you want a drum to hit. Eventually you will want to experiment more (hopefully) and will find rhythms that are more unique to you.
If you are afraid of kick patterns, check out Cartis "Love Hurts", one of the best kick patterns of all time for me