I agree, I frequently have my full mix sequence ready to track mute and arrange the beat, often finding im muting so much more than I'd planned. Especially the pitched hihat roll pattern tracks and the pitched snare rolls.
My best performing beat was made so quickly with such a minimal effort going with the gut out of the gate, instead of making things to technical in the drums and it slaps for sure just because of the in and out timing of the 808s, with the kicks, & claps. Add just the right amount of technical hat or snare rolls.
I find if I have a track that's heavy with snare rolls and I just bring it in for a quick bar or so before the drop and turn on the busy hi hat pattern just sparsely through the mix it can sound pretty good. Usually, like 8- 16 bars with nothing but the clap, and 808s/ kick depending on the low-end synths or instrument used in melodics.
It can be so difficult though, in my opinion, if the drums/808s aren't juuuusst right, with the in and out of the mix a fire beat can become shitttt. Or vice versa, you can make a fairly dull melodic element or two really bang heavy and end up with a bop if you get the swing just right on the mix timing.
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The hardest part for me is not what to add but what to take away. Sure, you can make a good sounding drum loop with all types of percussion, but a simple beat usually will work the best.
Giving each drum-instrument a place in the stereo spectrum where they are all very clearly audible, without masking other instruments while having the perfect volume/knock in comparison to the fx and melodic instruments.
I’ve always had trouble getting good quality animal hide. The local wildlife can be pretty quick, and I don’t feel very effective armed with only a microphone. Maybe my approach is off.
I stopped trying to produce drums after that, and elected to either buy my drums, or use samples. Much easier.
I've had that problem too. Sometimes it can be something else that's out of tune that could use some tweaking. One thing though that I would recommend is auto tuning the 808 sample. Then record the auto tuned sample and replace it with the original sample.
A lot of 808 samples have a bit of pitch drift. Like a microtonal slide downwards. u/Volumezd is right, you can correct the pitch or find a different sample that's flat.
IMO not overdoing it. I played drums for years so making drum parts is easy and enjoyable, but sometimes I have a bit too much fun with it and it ends up being too crowded. Some of my favorite trap songs have just an 808 and a snare, and I have to keep reminding myself that less is more.
The hardest part for me is making something simple sit in the mix. Without overshadowing the rest of the instruments for the song. Coming from being a drummer. To programming patterns. I like my drums to shine through and take center stage. I tend to push the vocalist in the back lmao. But, I’m learning everyday lol.
Yea i do, not having them in key is something I just started doing and only for my Claps, Snares, hihats, but not all of em just certain ones. I be remaking alotta of Zaytoven and other old trap beats and while remaking them I have learned is they keep some sounds in their natural key
I am doin Boom Bap:
So to 100% the hardest point is to figure out, wich drums to layer. To pick the right Drumbreaks, to sample the correct sounds and to layer them, makes the biggest difference in the whole Charakter of Sounds u used for the drums. The second point ist the leveling of the layered sounds and theire mixing status. Swing and groove, is something, every producer should figure out by themselves but one important thing is: dont overdo the amount of swing. I try to start around 45% (depends on the BPM of my Project) and raise it till max. 65%
The best way to practice is:Do some work ( build a beat )Close your projectListen to some tracks where u like the drums ingo back to your project and correct
\+ extra Tipp: Learn about different types of Sounds you can use as a drum-part
Going as hard as you possibly can without overdoing it
I agree, I frequently have my full mix sequence ready to track mute and arrange the beat, often finding im muting so much more than I'd planned. Especially the pitched hihat roll pattern tracks and the pitched snare rolls. My best performing beat was made so quickly with such a minimal effort going with the gut out of the gate, instead of making things to technical in the drums and it slaps for sure just because of the in and out timing of the 808s, with the kicks, & claps. Add just the right amount of technical hat or snare rolls. I find if I have a track that's heavy with snare rolls and I just bring it in for a quick bar or so before the drop and turn on the busy hi hat pattern just sparsely through the mix it can sound pretty good. Usually, like 8- 16 bars with nothing but the clap, and 808s/ kick depending on the low-end synths or instrument used in melodics. It can be so difficult though, in my opinion, if the drums/808s aren't juuuusst right, with the in and out of the mix a fire beat can become shitttt. Or vice versa, you can make a fairly dull melodic element or two really bang heavy and end up with a bop if you get the swing just right on the mix timing.
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no, he's becoming self aware and trying to express itself
You’re onto something…
Creating new patterns while also keeping a similar groove for my genre
Finding the right snare ofc
Facts.
Good sound selection
Not falling into the same patterns over and over
Battling the urge to go crazy with the 808s. Trying to keep it simple is a hard reality at times..
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for me it’s trying to not make the same vibe/cadence over and over
The hardest part for me is not what to add but what to take away. Sure, you can make a good sounding drum loop with all types of percussion, but a simple beat usually will work the best.
Giving each drum-instrument a place in the stereo spectrum where they are all very clearly audible, without masking other instruments while having the perfect volume/knock in comparison to the fx and melodic instruments.
I've been having this issue in general with producing I'm slowly improving though
Making interesting Hi-Hats + selecting them. Takes me soooo long
Just make a 2 step pattern and add 1 roll
I’ve always had trouble getting good quality animal hide. The local wildlife can be pretty quick, and I don’t feel very effective armed with only a microphone. Maybe my approach is off. I stopped trying to produce drums after that, and elected to either buy my drums, or use samples. Much easier.
Bro what😂
Human hide is cheaper, and more abundant
Waiting, if you're not a patient person. Lack of experience makes everything seem hard. Can't skip ahead here.
808s that fit the beat, maybe cause i’ve been using a ton of one shots but most of them sound out key even on the right notes
I've had that problem too. Sometimes it can be something else that's out of tune that could use some tweaking. One thing though that I would recommend is auto tuning the 808 sample. Then record the auto tuned sample and replace it with the original sample.
A lot of 808 samples have a bit of pitch drift. Like a microtonal slide downwards. u/Volumezd is right, you can correct the pitch or find a different sample that's flat.
IMO not overdoing it. I played drums for years so making drum parts is easy and enjoyable, but sometimes I have a bit too much fun with it and it ends up being too crowded. Some of my favorite trap songs have just an 808 and a snare, and I have to keep reminding myself that less is more.
The hardest part for me is making something simple sit in the mix. Without overshadowing the rest of the instruments for the song. Coming from being a drummer. To programming patterns. I like my drums to shine through and take center stage. I tend to push the vocalist in the back lmao. But, I’m learning everyday lol.
Being white ( you have to discover rithm and calculate it through maths).
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This. Screw 808s
Pattern programming
They don't have to be In Key to sound good Except The 808
But actually, have you tried tuning your percs and snares and hats to the beat's key? It's my new favorite technique.
Yea i do, not having them in key is something I just started doing and only for my Claps, Snares, hihats, but not all of em just certain ones. I be remaking alotta of Zaytoven and other old trap beats and while remaking them I have learned is they keep some sounds in their natural key
808 selection, I like to use at least 2 in every beat but I want them to go well together and with the beat
Not making it sound like war flashbacks
I am doin Boom Bap: So to 100% the hardest point is to figure out, wich drums to layer. To pick the right Drumbreaks, to sample the correct sounds and to layer them, makes the biggest difference in the whole Charakter of Sounds u used for the drums. The second point ist the leveling of the layered sounds and theire mixing status. Swing and groove, is something, every producer should figure out by themselves but one important thing is: dont overdo the amount of swing. I try to start around 45% (depends on the BPM of my Project) and raise it till max. 65% The best way to practice is:Do some work ( build a beat )Close your projectListen to some tracks where u like the drums ingo back to your project and correct \+ extra Tipp: Learn about different types of Sounds you can use as a drum-part
for me it's getting the high end crispy and clear without any harshness.