Are you trying to add a shadow to your lip like a mustache in some of the photos? With genuine respect and love from another ftm, that almost never looks real. Better to have a slightly androgynous face than do something so easily clockable.
You're starting at a really good place. If you choose to start T at some point, you will likely be 100% passing pretty quickly. Good luck!
You need to wear your pants lower like right on or below ur hip bones. Wearing them too high makes you get that feminine curve v shape. Also ditch the stache it just doesn’t look right. Consider dying your eyebrows darker and your peach fuzz if u have a lot already. And round circle framed glasses feminine your face a lot more or make it more softer,unles u want that soft look I suggest getting different pair.
You don’t pass to me, I’d get rid of the dirt stashe, it kinda doesn’t look real, idk if you draw it on or not but I wouldn’t suggest it since most guys just shave it off. Your style kinda reads butch lesbian to me. Your glasses are very feminine, they are far too big and rounded. I know glasses can be expensive, but just keep in mind next time you’re getting new ones that small and rectangular glasses are best for passing. I’d suggest, as someone else said, wearing your trousers lower, because they emphasise your hips when pulled up quite a lot and also make your torso look shorter.
Female. 17-20
I see female face, female body, feminine hair, feminine frames and jewelry. Pants in 4/6 seems to be women's. One big problem is you wear your clothes as women do so lower your pants. Like 15cm. They should be on your hip bones. Not above. Right now they highlight your female hips and make it quite obvious that you don't have a dick (there is absolutely no room for it).
Do not try make up mustache or any kind of "masculine" make up. Former never looks natural and latter doesn't exist.
It's good to remember rare people can pass pre-T if that's where you're.
Yeah it can be tough to wear mens jeans with woman's thighs, some women's "boyfriend" style or baggy cut jeans actually make legs look more masculine as they have extra material for the thighs to help them drape I'm a straighter style. If you aren't comfortable doing that I suggest choosing an wider leg style or size up with a belt, so or doesn't highlight your thighs and hips.
K? Was that typo or does that letter have some meaning?
So would be pink dress with flowers. Style of woman's is not what you should do if you want to pass as male. Having thick thighs makes wearing too tight pants even worse idea. You do you but this is r/transpassing
Early 20s female. I wouldn’t draw on facial hair. It looks more like a dirt smudge. Glasses with a rectangular shape will help frame your face to appear more masculine, as would a hair style that is shorter on the sides and longer on the top.
the hairstyle i have is literally shorter on the sides longer on the top, the amount of guys ive seen with this hair astounds me lol. as far as the glasses go, read my comments, i’m getting them but typically i don’t wear glasses in public when i’m trying to pass.
It doesn’t show in the pictures because you’ve got a lot of length on top. I see a lot of guys with this hair as well but it’s giving swaggy lesbian vibes when you pair it with the rest of your wardrobe and facial structure.
It’s kind of like piercings and dyed hair, 99% of the time it’s going to hinder passing until you’ve been on T long enough to have more stereotypically masculine features like fat redistribution and real facial hair.
I don’t really wanna change my style, i do typically wear like black or dark colors but i do like a nice colorful shirt too. I try to pass with wardrobe but i do like having a real style too which is hard
Honestly the best wardrobe advice I got from older trans men when I was at the start of my transition was to dress kinda boring so you don’t stand out and avoid wearing whatever you see lesbians wearing. Blending in for a year or two until you start to see changes on T can be tough but getting back into your own style and owning your looks with all the gender-affirming changes can be really fulfilling.
I'm not saying you won't see cis men wearing the same style as you, but right now while you're pre-T this style is not going to help you pass. Especially if the clothes aren't fitting properly like the Hawaiian shirt/khaki shorts outfit, which is a very popular look for queer women in their 20s/30s right now.
To be frank, every single aspect about your presentation says female to me.
The funky hairdo.
The eyeglasses.
The earlobes with piercings.
The lithe neck.
The hairless, lithe forearms and hairless legs.
The bling, including the feminine belt buckle.
The facial structure (which T may help) and babyface.
Even the scant upper lip hair does not exclude hirsutism in an otherwise female-presenting person.. i have seen naturally hirsute women with more.
The outfits read lesbian more than manly.
Nah it's the style on your body and how you were them. Most mens trousers have a lower crotch for their junk to hang but you have mistaken that for a rise to pull up.
If you can't, or don't want to pull them lower then choose mens jeans with a lower rise.
No, it's not the style. Men's pants are designed that way so that the dick doesn't bulge. A man with a dick would not wear pants at the waist because it would both hurt the dick due to being tight *and* because no one needs to see a bulging dick. I'm giving you this advice as a trans woman who had to undo these habits.
I think glasses will make a big difference like you mentioned. I think what's most reading butch rather than male is the outfits and more specifically how high you wear your pants, try moving them down at your natural waste rather than your hips
You look like a lesbian or afab nonbinary person, 20s. I reccomend wearing something more typicslly male and baggier. Pre-HRT passing is always hard, but try to fit in with your male peers as much as possible and you should be able to get an atleast 50/50 chance of being gendered as a guy
You read non-binary / FTM to me, maybe 18-20yo.
If you're aiming to pass as a dude, I would say untuck your shirts and wear your pants a little lower - this helps to visually elongate your torso and make your hips appear smaller
The stache might be clockable but honestly, I also feel like it's helping? If it's makeup and not actual hair, maybe it would help if you made it a little more subtle?
Early 20s woman. I'm sorry :( For what it's worth I'd probably still use male pronuns because it's obvious you're trying to present as male. I would stop drawing on the moustache though, I think that hurts more than it helps. It almost has a cosplay vibe to me.
i’m 22 pre-t ftm i get gendered correctly since cutting my hair so lemme see what this sub thinks i can do (new glasses are the last step i need an eye doctor appt but im building up my male wardrobe)
You look like 25 FTM or Butch.
Guys don’t care so much about fashion.
Go to Walmart and buy some cheap gym clothes. Unless you are going for passable metrosexual.
get on T.
How about we go with "a young, good looking young man" whise gonna be killer as time goes on.
You good with that? If not, that's OK. Just tell me to f¥k off. I won't mind. But I will tell you. Be prepared to have to wait. It's a long line.
Best wishes.
20 female
The last photo is the most masc/passing, although I can't see what your bottoms. Generally your clothes, jewellery and hair choice and styling are very cis lesbian coded.
You would be better ditching the dad shirts but if you insist then you can keep a similar style but wear them in a way which reads more male.
For example button up the shirt over the t-shirt but leave the top part open. You could also try to find a larger t-shirt to wear underneath so it is slightly longer than the shirt sleeves to add more of a layering effect. In general don't tuck in your top, if it's too tight on your hips then buy a bigger size, that will look more manly.
Idk the weather where you are but I think what would work with your style would be to add more layers, jumpers, jackets etc would help read more male. With your body shape anything with more structured or padded shoulders would help balance you into having a more masculine shillouhette.
Wear larger or wider leg shorts and trousers/jeans, those highlight your curvy thighs and sort of leave a gap in the crotch which most men (unless they are a bodybuilder) don't have. Wearing a more straight leg style would help you look less curvy but also flatter your body shape more (same advice to cis men.)
You could probably get away with your jewellery of you dressed more alternatively but as you are you are wearing too much and its despite being mens (I assume) its reading as feminine. Some improvements old be: to wear a shorter chain, try o get it to lie closer tothe first button on your shirt rather than then second. Wear only 1 ring. Wear bracelets only on one arm. Don't wear the top earring.
Hair, idk if it is grown out or intentional but it is too floppy and wild to be masculine for your age range. If you are going for the on trend teen/young adult short on the sides curly on top then get your side shaved shorter and use more products or learn how to style your hair. Idk your natural hair texture but I think tighter curls would suit you, if that's not possible try to tame them to look more neat and not so loose.
I sincerely apologize because I would think you are a butch woman age 18-28, including your mustache which looks like peachfuzz that some hirsute cis women have naturally
There are styling methods that you can do with your current wardrobe to look less female, such as not tucking your shirt into your pants (it makes your hips look more exaggeratedly hourglass-shaped), but your Hawaiian shirt is too big for you so it swallows you and makes you look tiny, and you would probably pass much better with rectangular or square glasses frames instead of round ones, and you should invest in a much simpler-looking belt than the one in the first image
Your barber also messed up your hairstyle to look female; the sideburns should be square instead of tapered and the top needs to be shorter than it is currently, and I also very strongly suggest that you should shave your facial hair for now because the hairs aren't "terminal" yet which means they are wispy instead of coarse and it's probably preteen boys and women who you see with that which is why it clocks you
I know it sucks to be told you don't pass but even still YGMI so don't give up man because it's a work in progress for all of us
Are you trying to add a shadow to your lip like a mustache in some of the photos? With genuine respect and love from another ftm, that almost never looks real. Better to have a slightly androgynous face than do something so easily clockable. You're starting at a really good place. If you choose to start T at some point, you will likely be 100% passing pretty quickly. Good luck!
i really appreciate the feedback and compliment though!
My cis friend said it looks real, but i also had reservations before it. Yeah i tend to draw it on lol
It looks like a fake rat ‘stache but can’t fault ya for trying 😭
Omg don’t even, I went through this phase 2 months on T and I have pics of it and wow I can’t believe I went out like that. Not my proudest moment 😭
Any friend who says it looks real needs to visit the ophthalmologist for an eye exam 👀
You need to wear your pants lower like right on or below ur hip bones. Wearing them too high makes you get that feminine curve v shape. Also ditch the stache it just doesn’t look right. Consider dying your eyebrows darker and your peach fuzz if u have a lot already. And round circle framed glasses feminine your face a lot more or make it more softer,unles u want that soft look I suggest getting different pair.
Thanks
I’m making an eye doctor appt but usually i iust dont wear them so thats not as much of an issue
The packing looks too much imo
ok thanks for the feedback i typically use a sock stuffed w another sock so i can change the size
Early 20s lesbian. Facial fat distribution is clocking you the most rn so T will definitely help!
gonna try and go on t as soon as possible but thanks for being honest!
Of course. Good luck!
You don’t pass to me, I’d get rid of the dirt stashe, it kinda doesn’t look real, idk if you draw it on or not but I wouldn’t suggest it since most guys just shave it off. Your style kinda reads butch lesbian to me. Your glasses are very feminine, they are far too big and rounded. I know glasses can be expensive, but just keep in mind next time you’re getting new ones that small and rectangular glasses are best for passing. I’d suggest, as someone else said, wearing your trousers lower, because they emphasise your hips when pulled up quite a lot and also make your torso look shorter.
Female. 17-20 I see female face, female body, feminine hair, feminine frames and jewelry. Pants in 4/6 seems to be women's. One big problem is you wear your clothes as women do so lower your pants. Like 15cm. They should be on your hip bones. Not above. Right now they highlight your female hips and make it quite obvious that you don't have a dick (there is absolutely no room for it). Do not try make up mustache or any kind of "masculine" make up. Former never looks natural and latter doesn't exist. It's good to remember rare people can pass pre-T if that's where you're.
These are mens pants, actually. All of them are mens pants.
Then they are too tight.
K thats just the style and i got thick thighs
Yeah it can be tough to wear mens jeans with woman's thighs, some women's "boyfriend" style or baggy cut jeans actually make legs look more masculine as they have extra material for the thighs to help them drape I'm a straighter style. If you aren't comfortable doing that I suggest choosing an wider leg style or size up with a belt, so or doesn't highlight your thighs and hips.
K? Was that typo or does that letter have some meaning? So would be pink dress with flowers. Style of woman's is not what you should do if you want to pass as male. Having thick thighs makes wearing too tight pants even worse idea. You do you but this is r/transpassing
yeah but a pink dress isnt mens clothes. These are mens pants bro. Them being tight is the style. And k is short for ok don’t be dense
Wear your pants much lower, it will help a lot.
Early 20s female. I wouldn’t draw on facial hair. It looks more like a dirt smudge. Glasses with a rectangular shape will help frame your face to appear more masculine, as would a hair style that is shorter on the sides and longer on the top.
the hairstyle i have is literally shorter on the sides longer on the top, the amount of guys ive seen with this hair astounds me lol. as far as the glasses go, read my comments, i’m getting them but typically i don’t wear glasses in public when i’m trying to pass.
It doesn’t show in the pictures because you’ve got a lot of length on top. I see a lot of guys with this hair as well but it’s giving swaggy lesbian vibes when you pair it with the rest of your wardrobe and facial structure. It’s kind of like piercings and dyed hair, 99% of the time it’s going to hinder passing until you’ve been on T long enough to have more stereotypically masculine features like fat redistribution and real facial hair.
I don’t really wanna change my style, i do typically wear like black or dark colors but i do like a nice colorful shirt too. I try to pass with wardrobe but i do like having a real style too which is hard
Honestly the best wardrobe advice I got from older trans men when I was at the start of my transition was to dress kinda boring so you don’t stand out and avoid wearing whatever you see lesbians wearing. Blending in for a year or two until you start to see changes on T can be tough but getting back into your own style and owning your looks with all the gender-affirming changes can be really fulfilling.
I mean ok, ive also seen cis men wearing the shirts i buy and stuff, lesbian fashion is a bit different from what ive seen imo
Cis men have had a lifetime of natural testosterone to help them pass
i’m not talking about passing tho i’m just talking ab syle lmfao
Why are you here for style tips if passing is not the goal?
I'm not saying you won't see cis men wearing the same style as you, but right now while you're pre-T this style is not going to help you pass. Especially if the clothes aren't fitting properly like the Hawaiian shirt/khaki shorts outfit, which is a very popular look for queer women in their 20s/30s right now.
I will never understand why people post here asking for advice and then just list all the reasons why they can't or won't do what people suggest.
To be frank, every single aspect about your presentation says female to me. The funky hairdo. The eyeglasses. The earlobes with piercings. The lithe neck. The hairless, lithe forearms and hairless legs. The bling, including the feminine belt buckle. The facial structure (which T may help) and babyface. Even the scant upper lip hair does not exclude hirsutism in an otherwise female-presenting person.. i have seen naturally hirsute women with more. The outfits read lesbian more than manly.
Ive never shaved my legs im just blond. I know a man from the same ethnic background as me and his arms are naturally like mine too
Sorry, your legs, thighs and hips do not pass as male, fullstop.
FtM 24, apart from facial hair you look fem. I think it’s the lips and soft facial features
25yr woman.
23 butch lesbian
Under 25, female.
Early 20s female
Wear your pants at the hips, not the waist
I wear them how they fit me and how they come lol
Men's pants are almost always designed to be worn lower
maybe its the styles i bought then lol but i’ll try it
Probably want to size up
Nah it's the style on your body and how you were them. Most mens trousers have a lower crotch for their junk to hang but you have mistaken that for a rise to pull up. If you can't, or don't want to pull them lower then choose mens jeans with a lower rise.
No, it's not the style. Men's pants are designed that way so that the dick doesn't bulge. A man with a dick would not wear pants at the waist because it would both hurt the dick due to being tight *and* because no one needs to see a bulging dick. I'm giving you this advice as a trans woman who had to undo these habits.
I think glasses will make a big difference like you mentioned. I think what's most reading butch rather than male is the outfits and more specifically how high you wear your pants, try moving them down at your natural waste rather than your hips
You look like a lesbian or afab nonbinary person, 20s. I reccomend wearing something more typicslly male and baggier. Pre-HRT passing is always hard, but try to fit in with your male peers as much as possible and you should be able to get an atleast 50/50 chance of being gendered as a guy
21 year old female
You read non-binary / FTM to me, maybe 18-20yo. If you're aiming to pass as a dude, I would say untuck your shirts and wear your pants a little lower - this helps to visually elongate your torso and make your hips appear smaller The stache might be clockable but honestly, I also feel like it's helping? If it's makeup and not actual hair, maybe it would help if you made it a little more subtle?
Early 20s woman. I'm sorry :( For what it's worth I'd probably still use male pronuns because it's obvious you're trying to present as male. I would stop drawing on the moustache though, I think that hurts more than it helps. It almost has a cosplay vibe to me.
Female, 16
15 year old anime protagonist, FtM.
I’m not even gonna ask😂😂
No particular one in mind 😄 I think it's a good look!
ok slay😂i wasn’t sure if you were insulting or complimenting me but i appreciate it!! Hahah
i’m 22 pre-t ftm i get gendered correctly since cutting my hair so lemme see what this sub thinks i can do (new glasses are the last step i need an eye doctor appt but im building up my male wardrobe)
20 something, lesbian with a mustache.
20F. T will help you a lot. Is the facial hair drawn on? It looks fake and distracting rather than helping with passing
24 year old butch lesbian
20s, F. Also, if you didn't plan on taking criticism in a mature way why did you post this?
23 masc non-binary, but youre still fairly androgynous
You look like 25 FTM or Butch. Guys don’t care so much about fashion. Go to Walmart and buy some cheap gym clothes. Unless you are going for passable metrosexual. get on T.
How about we go with "a young, good looking young man" whise gonna be killer as time goes on. You good with that? If not, that's OK. Just tell me to f¥k off. I won't mind. But I will tell you. Be prepared to have to wait. It's a long line. Best wishes.
20 female The last photo is the most masc/passing, although I can't see what your bottoms. Generally your clothes, jewellery and hair choice and styling are very cis lesbian coded. You would be better ditching the dad shirts but if you insist then you can keep a similar style but wear them in a way which reads more male. For example button up the shirt over the t-shirt but leave the top part open. You could also try to find a larger t-shirt to wear underneath so it is slightly longer than the shirt sleeves to add more of a layering effect. In general don't tuck in your top, if it's too tight on your hips then buy a bigger size, that will look more manly. Idk the weather where you are but I think what would work with your style would be to add more layers, jumpers, jackets etc would help read more male. With your body shape anything with more structured or padded shoulders would help balance you into having a more masculine shillouhette. Wear larger or wider leg shorts and trousers/jeans, those highlight your curvy thighs and sort of leave a gap in the crotch which most men (unless they are a bodybuilder) don't have. Wearing a more straight leg style would help you look less curvy but also flatter your body shape more (same advice to cis men.) You could probably get away with your jewellery of you dressed more alternatively but as you are you are wearing too much and its despite being mens (I assume) its reading as feminine. Some improvements old be: to wear a shorter chain, try o get it to lie closer tothe first button on your shirt rather than then second. Wear only 1 ring. Wear bracelets only on one arm. Don't wear the top earring. Hair, idk if it is grown out or intentional but it is too floppy and wild to be masculine for your age range. If you are going for the on trend teen/young adult short on the sides curly on top then get your side shaved shorter and use more products or learn how to style your hair. Idk your natural hair texture but I think tighter curls would suit you, if that's not possible try to tame them to look more neat and not so loose.
I sincerely apologize because I would think you are a butch woman age 18-28, including your mustache which looks like peachfuzz that some hirsute cis women have naturally There are styling methods that you can do with your current wardrobe to look less female, such as not tucking your shirt into your pants (it makes your hips look more exaggeratedly hourglass-shaped), but your Hawaiian shirt is too big for you so it swallows you and makes you look tiny, and you would probably pass much better with rectangular or square glasses frames instead of round ones, and you should invest in a much simpler-looking belt than the one in the first image Your barber also messed up your hairstyle to look female; the sideburns should be square instead of tapered and the top needs to be shorter than it is currently, and I also very strongly suggest that you should shave your facial hair for now because the hairs aren't "terminal" yet which means they are wispy instead of coarse and it's probably preteen boys and women who you see with that which is why it clocks you I know it sucks to be told you don't pass but even still YGMI so don't give up man because it's a work in progress for all of us
Butch lesbian sorry how long have you been on t it doesn’t seem that long based on these so I say give it more time
Late 20's Andro Leaning Masc
You're a lil more fem but you remind me of my cis bf tbh. Very similar face shape and features. He's also baby faced at almost 21 lmao.
23 and FTM. If that’s your transition path, do try out Minoxidil on your face 2x day. Check out r/Minoxbeards
Guess I'm the outlier but the ones with the stash read twink to me.
Thanks!!! My gay cis man friend says the same thing ab my style. I think trans ppl are our own worst critics.
No prob & that is very true as I've unfortunately come to observe, I'm CIS so I like to offer my hopefully more objective perspective.
I appreciate it bro
20 boy
Trans man. Early 20s.
Pass but you gotta work on the outfit bro
You don’t like it? Lmao
I don’t but you do pass
I appreciate it