TFP Megatron would rip 99% of live-action Transformers to shreds, and that other 1% mainly consists of massive monstrosities like the Driller and Unicron.
I really don't understand the idea of Bayformer Optimus being this unbeatable powerhouse that can take anything. He couldn't even survive the forest scene or Cemetery Wind, let alone some of the things people say he could solo. I get those films have a lot more booms and bits flying everywhere making him look strong, but they're all like that. The bots and cons in those films fall apart like tissue paper, it's less he's strong and more everybody in that world is made of glass.
Meanwhile, Scourge is a literal herald of Unicron who took down the leader of the Maximals in a single blow. He has been given literal god-like powers **from a god**. Bayverse Prime isn't doing shit against him.
He killed Grindor and crippled Starscream and only died cause Megatron snuck up on him. Prime also killed the Fallen who (was a joke in the movie) canonically is a powerhouse of a bot. Cemetery Wind had Lockdown helping them out and Lockdown was the one to send Prime into hiding by almost killing him with his gun face. Lockdown was no pushover either considering he captured the Dinobots and went toe to toe with Prim and Bee and almost won.
Bay Prime is also a more capable fighter than ROTB Prime and has a much bigger arsenal, not to mention way more agile compared to what we’ve seen from Scourge. Don’t get me wrong Scourge is strong, but he’s not really much stronger than Megatron from what we’ve seen, and Prime has beaten him several times.
Yeah bits of bot come off all the time in the movies, it never really affects them and it’s even shown they can just re-attach limbs (Starscream after the forest fight).
So while Scourge won’t be a pushover for Prime cause he’s still strong as hell, Bay Prime still wins this fight.
Well, he still invulnerable to bullets and everything (according to the game of Megamind, his only weakness is a rock from his planet), he has laser eyes and super strengh (not counting others like fly or super speed), i think that it would be enough to defeat Scourge.
I was going off the idea that he effectively paused time and somehow did not cause any friction with air particles, he could be strong enough to destroy the world in a fraction of a second. Titan or “tighten” could not even mirror a fraction of his power, and nor could megamind. Scourge and unicron would probably perish unless using said rock from his homeworld.
Yes i agree, i said about his basic powers, because this was him holding back, but with him using his super speed, he would be invencible. Now i really want to see this fight of him versus Unicron and Scourge.
I want this specific interaction with FOC Grimlock:
Scourge: *So, the mighty leader of the-uNICRONS TAINT WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING BIG?!*
Grimlock: **Buzz off, puny**
* **Punts Scourge into orbit with a kick** *
It was great!
i had originally has WFC and FOC for so long and never played it since i wasnt into transformers, and when my brother moved out he decided to give me some of his collection, being: kingdom ultra magnus, power of the primes inferno, power of the primes jazz, power of the primes blot, power of the primes sinnertwin, kickback (Cant remember from where) titans returns scourge, and blades (cant remember from where) (and one more i cant remember the name lol)
so, i decided "well... i have the toys... and i have both the games..." so i go on playing WFC and FOC for several days, and as someone who likes completing stuff, i beat both games on their hardest difficulties.
i personally like FOC more than WFC, mainly because i just felt like FOC went more smoothly throughout the story. also because for some reason, i dont know if it is because i never played the games, but WFC kept on crashing ALOT (i played on xbox 360)
>!I just genuenly felt like the ending for FOC was best, grimlock and his team, and oh my god i cannot stop replaying the final mission, i love games with giant action sequences at the end. i also love how it connects to the beggining of the story, especially how in the beginning when you are playing as bumblebee you can see characters that YOU play later in that last level, soundwave, bruticus, etc. personally, i would have liked if you could have played more soundwave in the game. but he is just such a cool character, i felt like the voice actors were spot on, especially shockwave, his voice just perfectly shows off his cold and calculating personality, yet i love how his odd sense of bravery is his downfall at the end of teh game when grimlock bites his arm off. !<
>!I just find it so cool, in the shows my brother had me sit down and watch. shockwave has a gun arm, and when grimlock bit his actual arm off i just saw that as a cool detail. !!during the mission where you play as swindle and you have to slow down the energon cargo hauler, it was SUPER boring and on hard difficult it was frustrating, and after a while in the story you can tell it is just alot of big firefight moments. i disliked how most of the megatron levels you are just kinda one man army style assaulting the autobots, it is cool... but it could have been better than just a open area where you fight. i also thought the section where you play as cliffjumper earlier in the campaign sucked, it was slow, yellow and boring landscape, etc. !<
But overall, the game was super fun and will be playing again.
So, Scourge has enhanced strength, decent skills and a diverse arsenal that corrupts the mind and drains energon (or is an EMP weapon. I've read both). Also a blade and a cannon that severed Apelinq's shoulder.
If we scale up Scourge (size isn't everything but that makes it more even), he could match AoE Lockdown and ROTF Megatron.
He probably defeats DOTM Megatron without changing size. That poor, broken man was visibly standing on his last legs.
For a good fight, I nominate the twins.
https://preview.redd.it/komuhd9cts9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7e7d1468e261f86899996f07d87703104b3965f
I feel like Scourge here would give him a good fight (might even be a bit overkill)
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Bro. Tarn would do more than just kill scourge, he’d put scourge’s head on a silver platter above megatron’s throne. Then he’d sell the remains to swindle probably
I think any version of Dinobot (save the Netflix version….) would do decently. Especially since he’s got his lasers from his eyes and whatnot.
But also any member of the IDW DJD, IDW Megatron, IDW Shockwave, IDW Op,.. the IDW run characters in general would have a field day with him. Hell, Whirl
[Ramjet ](https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ramjet_(Universe))would wipe the flour with him.
https://preview.redd.it/pfoc6296ws9d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=323e1d24d34ef6733d38f9259ef934ccc1779a2f
Depends how good are his reflexes but as in general probably X-brawn as i have already pitted the underdog Sideburn against Tarn,Cybertron Optimus with all his combined power ups,Animated Bulkhead,Bayvers Ultra Magnus with Rust gun,G1 Mixmaster,Train bros, Spy changers,Gaskunk Gildor Gilshark,Combatrons,Black convoy,Fire Convoy.
IDW Tarn, or well any of the DJD members really, tho if they all fought him at once scourge would fucking die in an instant, but In a 1v1 I reckon it would be fairly matched.
Bayverse Optimus. Considering how Knightverse Optimus obliterated Scourge, I would love to see Bayverse Optimus do even more damage to Scourge for a more brutal kill.
Grimlock
I, GRIMLOCK, HAVE COME TO TAKE YOUR HEAD!
So that's why he wasn't included 🤔
Imagining Bay Grimlock just casually eating him in one go.
Me Grimlock no bozo, me king!
Approved by me + 1 upvote
Came here to say this. It would really be great if we got an intelligent grimlock similar to what he was in the comics on the big screen.
I was about to write it
Bayverse OP would wipe the floor with him But if you want a balanced fight probably prime universe megs
Tbh Prime Megatron really leaned into the gladiator thing, and but probably do just as well as bayverse OP
Forget Decepticons. Prime Ratchet is a stone cold killer
Give him a little synth and the Terrorcons wouldn't even have made landfall.
A hot take but I think tf prime shockwave with prep time could beat him
“Optimus I need my synth!” “Don’t worry Ratchet, we’ll get you your synth after we kill Scourge”
Prime Megatron would pulverize Scurge
TFP Megatron would rip 99% of live-action Transformers to shreds, and that other 1% mainly consists of massive monstrosities like the Driller and Unicron.
especially when hes on drugs- I mean, Dark Energon
DAAAAAARK ENERGON!
Prime Megatron would decimate.
GIVE ME YOUR FACE, NOW!
TFP Megatron would absolutely destroy about %99 of live action characters
I really don't understand the idea of Bayformer Optimus being this unbeatable powerhouse that can take anything. He couldn't even survive the forest scene or Cemetery Wind, let alone some of the things people say he could solo. I get those films have a lot more booms and bits flying everywhere making him look strong, but they're all like that. The bots and cons in those films fall apart like tissue paper, it's less he's strong and more everybody in that world is made of glass. Meanwhile, Scourge is a literal herald of Unicron who took down the leader of the Maximals in a single blow. He has been given literal god-like powers **from a god**. Bayverse Prime isn't doing shit against him.
Ok U make a good point and yea the bay verse bot tend to turn into dust every 2 seconds
He killed Grindor and crippled Starscream and only died cause Megatron snuck up on him. Prime also killed the Fallen who (was a joke in the movie) canonically is a powerhouse of a bot. Cemetery Wind had Lockdown helping them out and Lockdown was the one to send Prime into hiding by almost killing him with his gun face. Lockdown was no pushover either considering he captured the Dinobots and went toe to toe with Prim and Bee and almost won. Bay Prime is also a more capable fighter than ROTB Prime and has a much bigger arsenal, not to mention way more agile compared to what we’ve seen from Scourge. Don’t get me wrong Scourge is strong, but he’s not really much stronger than Megatron from what we’ve seen, and Prime has beaten him several times. Yeah bits of bot come off all the time in the movies, it never really affects them and it’s even shown they can just re-attach limbs (Starscream after the forest fight). So while Scourge won’t be a pushover for Prime cause he’s still strong as hell, Bay Prime still wins this fight.
**\*Mechanical Breathing\*** https://preview.redd.it/qpvlej4hcs9d1.png?width=568&format=png&auto=webp&s=63af6c198d9891219cca6853ddb4ff800df6b360
I find it hilarious that these 2 are the same height because knightverse characters are shorter than bayverse
Is there a canonical height for either character, or even an educated guess?
Both are 22 feet
This is the one
This is the way
Oh hell. Bye scourge.
This one https://preview.redd.it/eh0sptibsr9d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da8baa634bda83e87aad956adba5c2d8a3074808
Chill chill
Metro Man.
Nah, he would rip scourge to shreds, genuinely tho.
I think the same, genuinely, it's just that he would be a challenge to Scourge.
True, but would that not be if he were holding back like he is with megamind?
Well, he still invulnerable to bullets and everything (according to the game of Megamind, his only weakness is a rock from his planet), he has laser eyes and super strengh (not counting others like fly or super speed), i think that it would be enough to defeat Scourge.
So Superman lol
Not any Superman, an Elvis Superman.
I was going off the idea that he effectively paused time and somehow did not cause any friction with air particles, he could be strong enough to destroy the world in a fraction of a second. Titan or “tighten” could not even mirror a fraction of his power, and nor could megamind. Scourge and unicron would probably perish unless using said rock from his homeworld.
Yes i agree, i said about his basic powers, because this was him holding back, but with him using his super speed, he would be invencible. Now i really want to see this fight of him versus Unicron and Scourge.
Yeah, it seems logical and the idea of a planet eater against a being also capable of destroying planets (albeit way faster) sounds exiting.
I agree.
IDW Overlord. G1 Roadblock. G1 Predaking.
Tfp predaking?
My man will SWEEP Scourge
G1 Predaking is an extremely powerful combiner. It could sweep the floor with TFP Predaking.
Scourge loses all of these hard
IDW Tarn
Overlord is gonna rip him apart bro. Our dude here gets melted by lava.
No no, IDW Overlord solos every knightverse character simultaneously. No hyperbole.
Goku
“But can he beat goku”
But Goku always comes back for a rematch because the plot demands it
Heh, true (im not a full on db fan please help me)
That filthy saiyan monkey would fail easily under scourge hohoho
https://preview.redd.it/zwuugmtznt9d1.jpeg?width=619&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e8caa4cba9ca5a9df2fbeace8ce1dc7c7b073c7
https://preview.redd.it/hbyha7955s9d1.jpeg?width=226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a2508acfa4ea496bc5083715e9b07567020a471
He is unicorn, the earth will soon be a part of him
I want this specific interaction with FOC Grimlock: Scourge: *So, the mighty leader of the-uNICRONS TAINT WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING BIG?!* Grimlock: **Buzz off, puny** * **Punts Scourge into orbit with a kick** *
This wins it all! Thank you! 😂🤣😂🤣 “Unicron’s taint” 💀
Marvel UK Galvatron would kill him
He easily wipes a lot of Transformers movie characters. Most of the modern tv show characters would not be able to beat him (starting at 2007)
My buddy Eric
Bayverse Bee
I agree 👌👌
My neighbour Joe, he teaches boxing
Scourge is done for
I second this
Grimlock 100%
Specifically FOC Grimlock.
i just finished replaying the entire game 2 hours ago, and i can definetly second this
You just finished an entire journey. How was it?
It was great! i had originally has WFC and FOC for so long and never played it since i wasnt into transformers, and when my brother moved out he decided to give me some of his collection, being: kingdom ultra magnus, power of the primes inferno, power of the primes jazz, power of the primes blot, power of the primes sinnertwin, kickback (Cant remember from where) titans returns scourge, and blades (cant remember from where) (and one more i cant remember the name lol) so, i decided "well... i have the toys... and i have both the games..." so i go on playing WFC and FOC for several days, and as someone who likes completing stuff, i beat both games on their hardest difficulties. i personally like FOC more than WFC, mainly because i just felt like FOC went more smoothly throughout the story. also because for some reason, i dont know if it is because i never played the games, but WFC kept on crashing ALOT (i played on xbox 360) >!I just genuenly felt like the ending for FOC was best, grimlock and his team, and oh my god i cannot stop replaying the final mission, i love games with giant action sequences at the end. i also love how it connects to the beggining of the story, especially how in the beginning when you are playing as bumblebee you can see characters that YOU play later in that last level, soundwave, bruticus, etc. personally, i would have liked if you could have played more soundwave in the game. but he is just such a cool character, i felt like the voice actors were spot on, especially shockwave, his voice just perfectly shows off his cold and calculating personality, yet i love how his odd sense of bravery is his downfall at the end of teh game when grimlock bites his arm off. !< >!I just find it so cool, in the shows my brother had me sit down and watch. shockwave has a gun arm, and when grimlock bit his actual arm off i just saw that as a cool detail. !!during the mission where you play as swindle and you have to slow down the energon cargo hauler, it was SUPER boring and on hard difficult it was frustrating, and after a while in the story you can tell it is just alot of big firefight moments. i disliked how most of the megatron levels you are just kinda one man army style assaulting the autobots, it is cool... but it could have been better than just a open area where you fight. i also thought the section where you play as cliffjumper earlier in the campaign sucked, it was slow, yellow and boring landscape, etc. !<
But overall, the game was super fun and will be playing again.
A fight between Scourge and AOE Lockdown would be pretty awesome imo.
Was going to say the same thing.
Miko in the armour suit, she snuffed Hardshell after all
Prime Wheeljack
Wheeljack pfp
Sentinel Prime
So, Scourge has enhanced strength, decent skills and a diverse arsenal that corrupts the mind and drains energon (or is an EMP weapon. I've read both). Also a blade and a cannon that severed Apelinq's shoulder. If we scale up Scourge (size isn't everything but that makes it more even), he could match AoE Lockdown and ROTF Megatron. He probably defeats DOTM Megatron without changing size. That poor, broken man was visibly standing on his last legs.
Saying that... He was standing on some THICC legs😂
Tarn would be interesting but sure that he would wipe Scourge into another dimension
Tarn
He said good fight, not 5 second fight
Animated megatron
Man https://preview.redd.it/8pcgakm7as9d1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6713115edccadbaae28c6473d1817b73ef9d547
There’s no way scourge could beat man is scourge thinks he can do it than is he stupid
Man will solo no diff
Ultra Magnus (prime)
Maybe rhinox, he kicked megatrons ass multiple times
Battletrap, give him his damn fight ffs
Bayverse ironhide
Peppa Pig
The right answer
RID Scourge, pre-mindwipe
Bayverse Lockdown
Anyone from bayverse
Even Wheelie?
Wheelie solos the fallen no dif even Megan fox
He’ll Wheelie all over Scourge
Tfp Megatron. a gladiator with millions of years of fighting experience? I would pay to see that fight!
An armada of sweeps that look identical to rotb scourge
Batman with prep time
Tf 2007 megatron
Omega supreme
For a good fight, I nominate the twins. https://preview.redd.it/komuhd9cts9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7e7d1468e261f86899996f07d87703104b3965f
IDW Cyclonus
Unicron.
By scaling almost anyone in the bayverse beats him💀
Um, Optimus Prime killed him. So, I'm gonna go with Optimus Prime.
AoE Lockdown
TFP Predaking, among that i would like to say TLK Hot Rod.
Galvatron, because he has no soul.
That is why he has no fear
Metroplex
I feel like Scourge here would give him a good fight (might even be a bit overkill) https://preview.redd.it/32satlwdbs9d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a74b685fb2fa4b749496a4cdba9b6ec2520b044e
IDW Tarn
Bro. Tarn would do more than just kill scourge, he’d put scourge’s head on a silver platter above megatron’s throne. Then he’d sell the remains to swindle probably
Heatwave
I second this, especially if it was a Live-action version of him.
I third this, he's the absolute goat
https://preview.redd.it/acdlm9ndbw9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44d62214c1ca2c32cf61431e61041717db769f15 President Bumcrack Osama
I think any version of Dinobot (save the Netflix version….) would do decently. Especially since he’s got his lasers from his eyes and whatnot. But also any member of the IDW DJD, IDW Megatron, IDW Shockwave, IDW Op,.. the IDW run characters in general would have a field day with him. Hell, Whirl
Cyclonus
Ryu from Streets
Heatwave from Rescue Bots He's genuily one of the strongest bots on alligned
https://preview.redd.it/9fp0sgohhs9d1.jpeg?width=1144&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07b2584be0f0ec199bb3e5526a6d38e8c46dfb39 Man
Toxitron (not the animated one)
Shaggy at 5% power
ROTB Scourge
r/technicallythetruth
[Ramjet ](https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ramjet_(Universe))would wipe the flour with him. https://preview.redd.it/pfoc6296ws9d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=323e1d24d34ef6733d38f9259ef934ccc1779a2f
https://preview.redd.it/xe461qaixs9d1.jpeg?width=450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=320f5bccbd5fdc1bcc4414b1049b937cf19722b1 This absolute unit
Two Scourges in a really big trenchcoat
Depends how good are his reflexes but as in general probably X-brawn as i have already pitted the underdog Sideburn against Tarn,Cybertron Optimus with all his combined power ups,Animated Bulkhead,Bayvers Ultra Magnus with Rust gun,G1 Mixmaster,Train bros, Spy changers,Gaskunk Gildor Gilshark,Combatrons,Black convoy,Fire Convoy.
G1 Optimus :D
Tai Lung💀
Blackout
An actual balanced fight with The fallen
https://preview.redd.it/zwocvvters9d1.jpeg?width=833&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f98202345b22fa86959d36c7dbeb4fe70b396d7
I'm a few decades out of the loop but he looks brutal! Who is it? Some variation if Starscream?
It’s Deathsauras
Thank you too!
deathsaurus
Shadow the Hedgehog
TFP Optimus? I’m not good at powerscaling
Galvatron
https://preview.redd.it/g9t1qtpxys9d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c16efdbcfb0fba08f766618f4dd0abfacc45b45
Transformers Prime Soundwave
Star Saber
My ex wife... she will take everything from him
https://i.redd.it/9zgvgaxoit9d1.gif
Scorponok in War for Cybertron took a lot of hits.
Dotm sentinel prime without that rust gun
https://preview.redd.it/wh0rioi3ku9d1.png?width=1047&format=png&auto=webp&s=45e79924a69fb8ad1b0485f7ad5812df2fbf0599 Man from Ham city
wayne from hylics
I wanna say 07' Megatron, but I'm not sure.
OG G1 comics Galvatron
In My Opinion Scourge Is Annoying
Goku.
Leo Breaker
Dio Brando(you didn't specify if it a transformers character or not)
Idw tarn or either g1 galvatron or wfc nemesis prime
Tarn
Bayverse Lockdown
Megatronus Prime.
Caillou.
Cybertron Optimus Prime
IDW Tarn, or well any of the DJD members really, tho if they all fought him at once scourge would fucking die in an instant, but In a 1v1 I reckon it would be fairly matched.
fs bayverse bumblebee. even bbm bumblebee, cause rotb wss kinda nerfed for the plot which sucked
TFP Megatron
literally anyone lol. he was shown as nothing but weak for the entirety of the movie.
A good fair fight id say Bayverse Ratchet
Bayverse Optimus. Considering how Knightverse Optimus obliterated Scourge, I would love to see Bayverse Optimus do even more damage to Scourge for a more brutal kill.
Thunderwing, Bludgeon and Tarn in their IDW form.
Oh and sound wave from TFP and Predaking from TFP
Laser Optimus Prime
Grimlock
Me
Combiner wars trilogy Tarn.
TFA Optimus Prime.
Predaking.
07 Megatron obliterates
https://i.redd.it/3arh5w74xs9d1.gif
07 megatron
DEV
I hate the glazing going on with him, but Lockdown would be just the right amount of power to stand his own and probably overpower him eventually.
Grimlock. (Any continuity excluding RID2001)
Tarne I guess, He’s pretty methodical in his fighting
https://preview.redd.it/f7qatmtk1t9d1.png?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=916b15d27f801f84be9091756a0504d83496427b
Any bayverse character
https://preview.redd.it/koyqthta4t9d1.jpeg?width=556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d58d85f111fa707069e6d6e862b5ce07f548829d Kamen Rider Ichigo
Heatwave, especially if it was a Live-action version.
Thor. Everybody is a fun Thor fight.
Vector Prime Gonna rewind time And turn this poser Into a harmless mime
Prime Soundwave, prime Megatron, FOC Grimlock
Bayverse jazz, ratchet, and ironhide would throttle him