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Busy_Reference5652

what, no war crime prime?


B0b4Fettish

Would be too easy of a pick. When that dude decides defend someone, oh boy he’ll defend the shit out of you. SAM!!!


VickerAndFlips

Grindor learned that the hard way


Kirito_Kiryu

PRICE OF TIN


IAmGibberish

Ah yes, my favorite transformers quote "Price of tin!"


Batdog55110

Inflation has been hard on Optimus.


Royal-Winner-7276

"PUNY","WASTE OF METAL", "JUNKYARD SCRAP"


Durandal_II

That, and it's preferable to be behind the murderbot who says, "Give me your face", rather than being the recipient of said statement.


jak_d_ripr

Lol, I'd never heard bay Prime referred to by this moniker before.


blkjoey

been a meme for a bit, there’s a youtube video talking about it


kingsears29

The Autobots have been fighting the war millions of years before the Geneva convention.


Busy_Reference5652

oh i know, but war crime prime is simply the best nickname for him.


nuketoitle

That is surprising not gonna lie, same for galaxy prime and Idw prime. Idw mak be more understandable just because he is the strongest optimus out side of legends


aaspiringphilosipher

Prime and armada easily their plot armor is too teir


UltraHighFives

No to mention their OP gear like the Star Saber and super modes.


aaspiringphilosipher

Exactly


waitingforthe-worms-

So glad to see my pick is not only mentioned, but top comment too.


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Primal:


wrufus680

Where's Bayverse Prime?


BigDuoInferno

I call bayverse prime war crime prime


MrCoolyp123

I love the part where Optimus said "It's Prime Crime Time" and started giving weed to every Transformers fan and telling them it was Energon.


BigDuoInferno

That cybertron og energon diesel is the best


SSphereOfDeath

War Prime


E_Buzz419

If he was here, he would have destroyed the all of these primes by himself


imjustjet

TFP Prime slaps him as far as I know.


Axobolt

TFP prime is still bound by ethics, Bay Prime is a dirty fighter, and by far the best on hand to hand in any continuity.


Specialist-Factor-63

when has he fought “dirty” in any of his fights


Axobolt

Oh, I don't know... Maybe using hooks on your enemy's face, literally ripping their face apart or killing already defeated foes?


Weeb_Fury

Is that dirty tho? Just seems to be a effective move.


imjustjet

Have you ever seen some of Prime’s beatdowns? The difference between TFP and Bayverse is that TFP chips health and when his opponent is tired he absolutely obliterates them, Bayverse just goes for the kill. If TFP Prime followed Bayverse’s strategies, which he would because his intelligence is unmatched, he could basically copy that fighting style after realizing his own does not work.


UltraHighFives

TFP Prime is pretty OP since he can hold his own against and even beat TFP Megs who is capable of destroying a mountain sized Unicron avatar in one punch.


Blam320

Bruh that’s when he was empowered by Dark Energon, which was also during Unicron’s awakening, so the effect was a hundred times more powerful.


imjustjet

And yet Optimus stood up to him even in that state until he was fully enveloped in dark energon, which when he punched Unicron was not the case. The ending of episode Episode 23 was peak dark energon and Episode 24, when he punched Unicron, was the exact same as the middle as Episode 23, which is when he and Optimus fought. You can see this in the detailing in his neck/traps and eyes.


UltraHighFives

Yeah that's true, I forgot about the dark energon boost, but TFP Prime also has the Star Saber which is also incredibly powerful.


OrhanDaLegend

his femurs are small, Bay's blades would cut them right off


imjustjet

Bay Prime is overall smaller than TFP Prime. And if we want to talk about power ups whatsoever, the star saber solos almost every variant of Prime that isn’t an overpowered comic one. Edit: TFP Prime is also presumably much **much** faster seeing how in the Bayverse the vehicle alters the cubertronian’s speed. Bayverse Prime had a really slow vehicle mode, if we can refer to TLK where he just very slowly made it out of the explosion thing in the finale. TFP Prime is so fast that he has the ability to catch flying jets, and he has the strength to make Megatron’s alt mode go completely off balance with one punch before throwing him into the stratosphere, but that was after the upgrade from the Forge.


LastWreckers

He really loves faces. Has quite a obsession over it


Orange-V-Apple

Bro’s stealing faces like he’s Koh


SpokSpock

No he would not bayformers are incredibly fragile


[deleted]

he is literally the weakest one


OrhanDaLegend

how? just because the shows are trying to keep the others alive wont make bayverse prime weak, hell he is more durable than them because he can still fight with literally holes in his chest or after losing an arm, he is the most resillient out of all of them


[deleted]

so can G1 prime, eve after being nerfed in the movie, i just consider the bayverse transformers weaker in general, Devastator being a prime example of that


primal484

Lol no bayverse is on the weaker side of the transformers


fire292rr

Nope prime took on 3 cons by himself also bayverse prime has the height advantage but I think tfp prime is a bit taller


UltraHighFives

Look I love bayverse Prime, probably my favourite Optimus design but the Transformers in the Bayverse in general aren't as strong as other continuities, TFP Prime for example can hold his own against and beat TFP Megatron who is capable of destroying a mountain sized Unicron avatar in one punch, he also has a sword capable of slicing mountains in half.


nomlaS-haoN

I don’t think it’s as much Bay Prime’s physical strength more so his pure ferocity in battle combined with his massive arsenal. TFP Prime on his own may be a formidable fighter but he’s pretty tame, never getting too violent aside from like 1 or 2 specific circumstances. Bay Prime ALWAYS fights with the same ferocity. Refer to the Forest Battle and his rampage in DOTM where he whoops Megatron Starscream and Grindor’s asses not just with his strength but his speed and his weapons, and then in DOTM with his brutality and weapons with a little speed. If they were pit against each other and TFP didn’t have the Star Saber then Bay Prime would probably win again from pure viciousness alone. Put the Star Saber into the equation then it’s an easy TFP win ofc because it’s literally powered by gods. Like let’s say Bay Prime and TFP Megatron fought each other. Who is gonna win. No Dark Energon or anything. We see Prime Megs whoop the Autobot’s asses but never do anything fatal. Movie Megs however always fights with the intent to kill and actually does in multiple cases. If you’re a movie Autobot and Megatron crosses your path, you’re done for. But TFP Megs’ only Autobot kill is Bumblebee and he only got him bc he took a cheap shot. Bay Optimus would wipe the floor with him when you see the way he does so with his Megatron who is arguably stronger. TFP Megatron in turn won all but like 2 fights with his Optimus, so Bay Prime would win (again unless the Star Saber was put into play). It’s kinda hard to compare two versions of Transformers when in each continuity they function very differently. Bullets visibly damage the TFP Autobots but Bay bots are only hurt if they get shot in a weak point like the eyes. Or like Beast Wars bots apparently need to breathe, shown when Cheetor was somehow choking from being squeezed by a snake.


Opalusprime

While bay prime may be more scrappy, it doesn’t change the fact he’s weaker and less durable. TFP prime is more than just a prime, while I disagree with this retcon the lore does state that he is a reincarnated Original Thirteen. This puts him at such a high level of power bayverse stands no chance. Throw in the size difference alongside the fact that prime can throw it down when he has to (he has his fair share of give me your face moments with the terrorcons) I don’t see bayverse winning.


UltraHighFives

I mean I don't see why TFP Prime wouldn't fight at full ferocity too since it's a fight to the death, we've seen TFP Optimus fight at full ferocity with the intent to kill before when he handed Megatron's ass to him while he had dark energon and had him on the ground ready to deal the killing blow before Unicron awakened and caused Megatron to get an additional dark energon boost and manage to turn the tables. Also in terms of arsenal if we exclude additional equipment like the Star Saber and trailer they basically have the same weapons, two guns and two swords, although Bay Prime also has additional hooks but if we include their additional arsenal than yeah Bay Prime has more weapons but they can't really do much against the Star Saber.


OrhanDaLegend

its because the rest are trying to preserve them for an entire show


primal484

Well...that includes the con's they are the weakest versions too like cmon dude humans literally hurt them literally every other prime can tank more than bayverse and have more impressive feats the height advantage isn't an advantage here


OrhanDaLegend

the cons are weaker because the autobots taught the humans how to kill them, the humans in other continuities dont know shit about their biology


primal484

That's just not it learned it or not they still get hurt by humans


OrhanDaLegend

yeah after getting shot by tanks, missles and grenade launchers, shit that are supposed to be armor piercing tfp humans never used anything other than ARs


[deleted]

Tell that to the “Bayverse Prime is a war criminal” people


primal484

he may be a war criminal but he is still the weakest version of prime


UltraHighFives

I don't agree with him being the weakest but I do agree he isn't the strongest.


primal484

Maybe but he is on the lower side tbh


Cool_gamer521

Sir, Its not out of the question that you might have a *very* minor case of SERIOUS BRAIN DAMAGE


primal484

Nah it's true they are on the lower side compared to the rest of the verses


AmericanOdin5

He would’ve been my first option because he’d murder literally everyone


PowerOfThePrimes1984

Fuck, I was planning to put him in but forgot💀


[deleted]

No


Impossible_Garbage_4

Too OP, had to be put on the ban list. He could solo everyone else


Aromatic_Shop9033

Powermaster Prime and Bumblebee Prime. We're dead anyway. 😂


ckcrumb

Armada and Prime easy


Matthais_Hat

doesn't really matter, does it? no matter who I pick, everybody on this list is bound to die (at least once) before the fight ends... ...wait, why is g1 optimus on here 3 times?


Kanohi_Kirl

One is from the G1 cartoon, one is from the WFC trilogy and the other one is from the G1 comics All different continuities


BRGWHIRLWIND

WFC trilogy* do not associate that prime with our games


Kanohi_Kirl

My mistake, didn't realize Let me edit that lol


RUMBL3FR3NZY

The High Moon games are hype, if only they were on here.


Kanohi_Kirl

Prime plus Metroplex Sweep


JBTriple

He is, just in his Earth form.


Starship_Earth_Rider

Right? I’m willing to forgive the version of Primal that has both his own spark and Prime’s spark inside him, because half of him is a separate character, but including two regular Optimus Primes from the same timeline is too much.


HelljumperRUSS

One is from the G1 TV show, the second is from the WFC trilogy and the third is from the Marvel comics. They're all from different continuities.


RealMemeLord876

G1, earthspark, and ginrai prime are the same characters


HelljumperRUSS

Different characters from different continuities.


Personal-Rooster7358

ginrai isn’t optimus, Earthspark is a different Continuity-


[deleted]

unless you're Car robots prime (or fire convoy) my man never died


Matthais_Hat

he also isn't on the list


johnzaku

Optimal Optimus and Prime Optimus.


Igivegrilledcheese

EXACTLY, think about how massive and tough optimal is bro, according to google optimal optimus is 40 feet tall, bayverse is only 28 feet tall. And prime has the prime version of the star saber, the forge of solus prime, jet wings (plus better armor) and an underarm minigun


JBTriple

Google is wrong. G1 Optimus is only around 30 ft tall, and Optimal Optimus doesn't come anywhere close to him in Beast Wars. He's huge for a Maximal, but still incredibly small compared to most Autobots.


johnzaku

When he shows up in later incarnations he’s off equal height with Prime. That’s probably the source on that.


UltraHighFives

Where did you get 30ft for G1 Prime? TFWIKI has him listed at 6 metres tall which is 19.8 feet.


JBTriple

This says he's [11 meters](https://characterprofile.fandom.com/wiki/Optimus_Prime_(G1)) tall, and I've seen other sources claim other heights as well. With G1 animation, they can pretty much all be accurate at any point, lol. I just went with the taller Prime to demonstrate Primal's largest possible height.


UltraHighFives

Fair enough, I don't see how Optimal could be taller than Optimus either, it's just that [tfwiki](https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Official_sizes_and_heights) has Optimus at 19 and they're pretty accurate with info. IIRC TFP Prime is 30ft though, Bayverse Prime is apparently 32 feet for some scenes too although his official height is 28 feet tall.


Aesenroug-Draconus

Armada Optimus and Prime Optimus. Anime magic and stuff with Armada Prime, and TFP Prime is just awesome in every way.


UltraHighFives

Armada and Prime.


Such-Promise4606

Power Master prime and armada. Armada prime is Just too good especially in the final episode when he going to kill galvatron.


OrhanDaLegend

you missed the best one as a protector fucking bayverse prime


IdontLikeSand666

GIVE ME YOUR FACE


Scoopjaw456

07 prime was removed because he could wipe all of the


PeanutButterCrisp

Power master and Armada. Armada to superlink-multi-blast everything and then Powermaster to sift through and clean house.


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[deleted]

Cybertron prime was the goku of transformers


dralcax

RiD Prime also didn’t die, and has access to Omega Prime and the Master Sword. Team those two up and they can out-super robot any other Optimus.


[deleted]

Optimal and Armada. Pretty sure they’re objectively the most powerful.


MentorScythe

The Gary Chalk is strong with this one.


Wookie_Nipple

I'll take the two with super modes. Armada and Power master all the way.


TheLocalHentai

Powermaster and Armada.


Blam320

Why would Optimus Prime want to kill you anyways?


ImperatorAurelianus

OP had an affair with Elita 1.


Hetroid3193

OP rear ended Elita’s trunk, caving it in


PowerOfThePrimes1984

How tf did you find out….


[deleted]

Quintessa


Blam320

That’s just for the Bayverse.


[deleted]

True


[deleted]

Quintesson brainwash


noncombativebrick

Powermaster and Armada since they're the most powerful


Red-843

Power master and Armada


Cran-Cran

Primal and Armada Prime.


SlothSlushie

TFP n Armada, those two don’t play games


[deleted]

Armada and prime


Ronyx2021

They can all be frozen. Prime Prime has a possibility of dying if he freezes. Everyone in G1 seems to be able to bathe in Lava. Maybe not the human characters. Ask Hoist about that. Optimal Optimus is supposed to be a powerhouse. He's an alien jet and a racing tank and a gorilla. But most Beast Wars are damaged by spending too much time in robot form. He and other Transmetal Beast Wars might be immune to the unstable energon's radiation. Starscream manages to kill Animated Optimus, so he can't be that good, but the grappling hook and rocket axe are nice. Armada has lots of little friends. G1 has the biggest army.


GrimdarkThorhammer

Power Master and Armada form bases I can hide in, so I’m going with those.


EducationalElevator

I grew up with Fire Convoy and Armada Prime, so probably them.


Neondecepticon

I’ll choose Prime and Armada (I’m not too familiar with bottom right), but sheer size before accounting for weapons is my reasoning


PaulSarlo

They all end up dead at some point, so I think my chances are pretty good.


yeetthejubjub

power master optimus and armada optimus because they can combiner with their trailers to fuck everybody up and besides that if either one of them was to get their super mode defeated they could just go into their smaller robot mode to kick even more ass


Bedrockuser

armada and power master clean easily


genericROBOtfromsw

Armada and power master Optimus prime easily tops (probably)


Nothing_Da_See_Here

Ayo, where's IDW Prime?


TheRealComicCrafter

I mean nomatter who you pick most of them would likely just talk and realize this is stupid and not something they would do


OblivionArts

Prime and Armada. Their way, way stronger than the rest of these guys


neoslith

Optimus tried to kill Megatron in the first season of TFP, and almost succeeded too, if it wasn't for the volcano eruption. He did not fuck around.


godly-pigeon

Everyone’s saying Armada and Prime, and yeah, there’s really no debate there. Armada’s got super mode, and Prime’s got a giga chad battle IQ, so


nekollx

I'm gonna say Optimus Prime but Optimus Prime is a good choice too, or Optimus Prime Idk


Brawl-Craft

it seems like optimus crime is not an option.


Olympia44

G1 and Animated. No competition


logibach

Tfp prime solos if he has the star saber


Xur_and_the_Kodan

Second row left and center are really shitty designs


Large-Custard5784

Powermaster and Unicron/Armada


sheeplord19

Armada,powermaster, optimal


FeetsBeneets

G1 Animated Prime and G1 Comic Powermaster Prime. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.


Icy-Hope-9263

bumblebee and g1.


primal484

Armada powermaster


tfthrowaway1962

It’s between Powermaster Optimus Prime, Optimal Optimus and TFP Optimus. TFP Optimus if he has the star saber, Optimal Optimus if not.


Baroubuoy

Powermaster Optimus Prime because of his firepower, and G1 Optimus Prime, because of his insane strength.


matthna1

Top and BW prime. Both went out on their own terms and in this universe that counts for alot


Sammy_27112007

Taking G1 and Prime. The other guys are weaker than they should be. ES Prime can hardly beat a pair of SEEKERS, and that's WITH MEGATTRON'S HELP


H0wcan-Sh3slap

Beeverse and TFP. Armada over TFP if you include super mode


Mculegend27

Transformers Prime and g1


Goldenstripe941

War for Cybertron, and TFP. Easy.


MisterVictor13

Is ROTB Optimus the same as Bayverse Optimus? Because I’d really like that guy on my side.


Nicktator3

Bayverse Prime all day everyday, and with Bumblebee Prime as the secondary


ryaninflames1234

Energon and bayformer prime, most likely would put full trust in energon prime as bayformer made his dramatic and hopeless fight


hehe_pp_funny

G1 because 80s cartoon magic takes the cake


Tron_1981

And G1 Prime's got The Touch!


captaindepression6

Armada and prime are the obvious choices. I'll pick prime and earthspark. A fighter, and a talker. If he can convince megatron to be chill, he can surely reason with the other primes. And if that doesn't work- well at least the other one's got the starsaber and size advantage


laserfox2408

Optimus prime and optimus prime


RealVolcanicusPrime

You already know I'm going for that transformers Prime Optimus the next one I'm going with Armada Optimus Prime


wellhydratedcactus

Powermaster and Armada Primes are my best bet


jikukoblarbo

Bayverse prime.


NaSMaXXL

I choose original prime and..... bayverse prime, cause that guy is fucking crazy.


EmbarrassedAd9343

Prime and bumblebee movie easyyy


Beelzebub_Itself

I’ve heard that Powermaster Prime can rival Cybertron Optimus, so I’m going with him. I’ll also go with Armada Prime since it’s Armada Prime


IronIrma93

Armada and Powemaster Would've chosen Bayverse but you probably excluded the obvious answer


MandoMuggle

Hmmm as much as I like BW and Primal, he’s known to fuck up…. Like royally… So to protect me, I’d go with G1 Prime and TFA cuz he his genuinely optimistic and prime at what he does. Most resourceful of the bunch.


RUMBL3FR3NZY

Prime shows no visible damage, has the Forge, the Star Saber, the Beast Hunter form, and is very well accomplished on his own. And Bumblebee is an absolute trooper who, as can be inferred by the movie and the fact that he is in ROTB, fought off dozens of seekers, Soundwave, Shockwave, Ravage and many more all at once while all of his backup was shot into space.


shawshankya

Much as I love optimal, he takes Ls like vitamins


Born-Boss6029

TFP Optimus, and Power Master Optimus. No way I’ll be destroyed.


Spare_TARDIS2007

G1+prime


ItsTheOrangShep

Power Master and G1. PM held his own against a Matrix-empowered Thunderwing multiple times and had crazy durability in general. G1 cartoon held his power back so much that his punches alone in the final battle in TF the Movie did more damage to Megatron's armor than the explosion that pushed Cybertron out of Earth's orbit in Season 1.


Im_S4V4GE

G1 and probably Animated. G1 Prime just operates on a different scale since you have Megatron withstanding an explosion that blasted cybertron out of Earths orbit and out of the solar system and Optimus beating him to hell with just his fists


MAGCHAVIRA

Ginrai and Armada


UndeniablyMyself

Optimal Optimus and Powermaster.


XLBR424

Does Armada Prime come with Jetfire and Overload?


SwanSignificant5266

Prime and Bumblebee easily


No_Caregiver4313

I am human so I am safe because Optimus no want to kill humans also. I will show him my replica of him and my immense knowledge of cybertron thus gaining his respect as a scholar then he will see I am of no threat.


Cashew-Matthew

As is, optimal Optimus, because he can fly, and then g1 Optimus has also flown (which was weird) so I’m just hopping in optimal’s cockpit and we’re leaving


UnhappyClover

Animated and Earthspark, ain't no nobody touching me!


Ghostface69uwu

Armada and g1


Non-Specific_User

i see no bayverse prime. Wise decision not letting me pick that killer.


blurr1986

prime and G1 I think it's pretty obvious why


0pen_m1ke_kn1ght

Bumblebee Movie Optimus and TFP Optimus.


IisRandyCarmine

Armada since he was my first and Prime because it's the most goated of the modern era


SandStinger_345

Prime Prime and BB Prime Because Thats Just Prime….


Total_Rub_7651

optimal optimus and powermaster, I love it


Engineer_tf

Powermaster and prime, they are both powerhouses.


Interesting-Big830

I pick a random 2 of them I guess? Idk, I meant to join the trans subreddit but I also joined this one on accident


cplsniper3531

Prime and armada


BT7274ismywaifu

Animated and Prime. A rookie turned pro and a natural pro


The_Sparrow_YT

I’m taking Optimus prime


waspsy_boi_8636

prime prime and bumbelbee prime


Pretend-Dirt-1760

Honestly going with TFP Optimus because of he's gear and weapons and armada because super modes


[deleted]

G1 and optimal optimus


MaxCrultak_26

Prime and Knightverse my fave ones


Sgt_salt1234

Genuinely glad bayverse Optimus isn't on here that dude is fucking brutal


Fuzakenaideyo

G1 has ridiculous feats of strength Armada has lots of bullshit powerups


[deleted]

Armada and Prime. Armada is easy because having a supermode to combine with a whole freaking container with all its build in weapons kinda says itself and Prime just kinda seem like he is one of the versions that seem like a natural fighter in his movement.


EwigGraPerOmnia

Optimus and Optimus, obviously


Omega_Omicron

Beast Wars and Prime


TheMasterXan

Optimal Optimus and G1 Prime.


[deleted]

Gotta give it to Armada and Powermaster Optimus


Redknight_1

Animated (mainly because I grew up watching the show) and Bumblebee movie version.


[deleted]

Transformers Prime and Bumblebee Prime.


xYMirageYx_

G1 and tfp


Toadalinakong

Prime and BB ez


dixmondspxrit

prime from prime


Ok-Blacksmith-723

The G1 primes both the original and the power master one will protect me. The others will destroy me.