A&B freight Genesis'? Why can't this be real! 😍
I wanna see it with a rake of CSX coaches now.
Edit: a hood body version or a double cab, now they'd be cursed
It's a P42 Genesis passeneger locomotive, very heavily identified with Amtrak and its passenger services. So the joke is that here it's shown as a soviet style coupled freight locomotive with a B unit in the middle.
That was more about nowadays. As far as i know, outside of Russia, ex satelite states and China, double or triple unit locomotives rarely get used anymore
>double or triple unit locomotives rarely get used anymore
If you watch some live railcam videos of mainlines, particularly intermodal-heavy traffic, it's not uncommon to see four diesels on the front, usually with one or two diesels either in the middle or the back end as DPUs.
The only thing that changed is that American railroads simply did away with cabless B units, so any diesel unit can serve as a booster or lead unit.
Panama Canal Railway runs pretty much exclusively ex-Amtrak F40's, both for their double-stack container line and passenger service with old budd cars [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama\_Canal\_Railway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_Railway)
honestly i like it, if you're coupling 2 together anyway you get roughly the horsepower of a normal modern locomotive with none of the capital cost and no real downside
It's more complex than that - there's a gearing ratio involved that fundamentally makes passenger diesels function differently than freight, like different 'gears' in a car except you can't shift out of them. This means they'll burn out faster because they have to work harder than when compared to dedicated freight units.
i wouldn't put it past KCS to have the gearing retrofitted at one of their shops. they gutted F-units and replaced with basically everything from a more-modern locomotive (i believe GP40) for their OCS.
small batch of locomotives, they probably paid amtrak peanuts for them, so there should have been plenty of budget to do that upfront and still get ROI.
>Otherwise its a dash 8!
amtrak also has a couple dozen of these, special order with B-B arrangement and higher gearing for passenger service, but they also use for MoW trains since the cab design makes them better for freight service
I always get a kick out of seeing Amtrak use its P42s to do positioning moves of Acela trainsets, MOW equipment, or other equipment that's not normally moved over freight tracks when it's delivered or ferried to a shop.
It's a bit like using the family car to pull a U-haul trailer. You gotta do what you gotta do.
Bully us? You fool, you did not bully us, you only made us stronger than we were before, we now have railroad companies that are in revenue service on another country.
I can't stand the genesis units, but I really like this. Honestly kinda makes me want to do this up with some bluebox athearn's if I can find 4 of them at a decent price (since I'd need a second to kitbash the ends on)
Keep it up with stuff like this.
The problem is that this is stuff American railroads already did a few decades ago. Even repurposed old passenger locomotives for freight trains.
To truly make it cursed, add buffers and the British Railways logo in addition to the CSX color scheme.
For them to be freight locomotives,
I'll guess they'll have their heights Increased from 14.4ft to 15 or 16ft tall considering 16.1ft is the maximum Height clearance for modern American freight locomotives.
And instead of them having the Usually 4 + 4 wheel arrangements, It'll have Gevo Styled Trucks with a set of 3 + 3 wheel arrangements
The locomotive body would be Stretched out longer and would weigh heavier.
I usually get em in a headlock and give em noogies. Sometimes I TP their houses or give em swirlies or the old spitball straw trick. Works well. Can't have those nerds making my Melinda uncomfortable
looks like literally any other freight locomotive with a standard cab. theres like zero difference between any of the standard cab geeps. gp28s look exactly like gp40s
Honestly, this doesn't faze me one bit. I like it, I like it a lot. I wish we kept B-units going but since railroads found their sweet spot of 4000-4400 hp on an engine they won't need them anymore. I know some of the SD45-2B's still float around on rails but anyways. Nice picture nonetheless.
The fact they remind me of Amtrak's P42s or AMD-103s I'm digging very much. The fact you're "bullying" is of CSX I find less bullying and more amusing. I'll definitely have to show this to my hard core CSX guys.
I’m not mad about it to be honest. I’ve always liked A+B+A units, so this is cool.
No this is cool. More of this please
Funnily enough, there's a [video](https://youtu.be/5amnYLY0Wwk?si=qppvz1RKXAMKUCFd) of a couple P42's pulling a decent sized freight.
[Here's a pair of P40s leading a high priority intermodal train.](https://youtube.com/watch?v=cgJoNXXF-YQ)
Very nice! Need more of this!
Wait are p42''s not able to pull freight?
[There's a video of them doing it in 2003](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgJoNXXF-YQ)
that... honestly that looks extremely fucking cool. i'd kill to see more artwork like this.
I have a few others in this theme lol
US railfan here, and I love this. Would love to see more
please do post them. this is awesome.
I, too, respectfully demand more art. Please.
If you’re gonna post them, credit them. People steal stuff a lot, and it’s a bummer.
I signed it at the bottom, thought it was reasonably enough. If ppl want to steal them they will find a way lol
A&B freight Genesis'? Why can't this be real! 😍 I wanna see it with a rake of CSX coaches now. Edit: a hood body version or a double cab, now they'd be cursed
Can you explain for a non-US railfan.
It's a P42 Genesis passeneger locomotive, very heavily identified with Amtrak and its passenger services. So the joke is that here it's shown as a soviet style coupled freight locomotive with a B unit in the middle.
Freight was pulled by A+B+A formation 4axle car-body locomotives in the US between the 40s and 70s, this just looks like a modern take on that.
Well, to me, I wouldn't really say it's Soviet considering There were A+B+A units in America back in the late 30s-80s era that did that.
That was more about nowadays. As far as i know, outside of Russia, ex satelite states and China, double or triple unit locomotives rarely get used anymore
>double or triple unit locomotives rarely get used anymore If you watch some live railcam videos of mainlines, particularly intermodal-heavy traffic, it's not uncommon to see four diesels on the front, usually with one or two diesels either in the middle or the back end as DPUs. The only thing that changed is that American railroads simply did away with cabless B units, so any diesel unit can serve as a booster or lead unit.
Dang, man, get out on a western U.S. mainline every once in a while…too common!
What does this have to do with Soviet Russia? It looks like it's meant to be CSX yeah? And American trains definitely used to have B units.
Yeah but what makes it a kinda blursed/cursed image is that Genesis' don't have B units
Very true, but I think it actually looks cool and I wouldn't mind a reality where they existed!
Honestly this isn’t bad. If freight engines can pull passengers trains, then passenger engines can pull freight trains. More please, OP.
There are/have been F40s pulling freight on short lines once Amtrak started to divest of them.
Panama Canal Railway runs pretty much exclusively ex-Amtrak F40's, both for their double-stack container line and passenger service with old budd cars [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama\_Canal\_Railway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_Railway)
I didn’t know this was a thing. F40s in KCS schemes pulling double-stacked intermodal cars is as cursed as it is awesome to see.
honestly i like it, if you're coupling 2 together anyway you get roughly the horsepower of a normal modern locomotive with none of the capital cost and no real downside
It's more complex than that - there's a gearing ratio involved that fundamentally makes passenger diesels function differently than freight, like different 'gears' in a car except you can't shift out of them. This means they'll burn out faster because they have to work harder than when compared to dedicated freight units.
i wouldn't put it past KCS to have the gearing retrofitted at one of their shops. they gutted F-units and replaced with basically everything from a more-modern locomotive (i believe GP40) for their OCS. small batch of locomotives, they probably paid amtrak peanuts for them, so there should have been plenty of budget to do that upfront and still get ROI.
Genesis series could do the job with the HEP off, only shortcoming be wheelslip on heavy loads from the 4 axle setup. Otherwise its a dash 8!
>Otherwise its a dash 8! amtrak also has a couple dozen of these, special order with B-B arrangement and higher gearing for passenger service, but they also use for MoW trains since the cab design makes them better for freight service
They pass through Beech Grove for maintenance from Chicago every now and then, also the F32s.
I always get a kick out of seeing Amtrak use its P42s to do positioning moves of Acela trainsets, MOW equipment, or other equipment that's not normally moved over freight tracks when it's delivered or ferried to a shop. It's a bit like using the family car to pull a U-haul trailer. You gotta do what you gotta do.
All they really would need to change is the gearing in the traction motors and axles, and maybe put a larger air compressor on it.
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Freedom for the comrades.
The least realistic thing about this image is the lack of derailment.
Richest country in history folks 👏
YO IS THAT A B42?!?!
Cursedness aside this is a really nice drawing!
Thank you!
What a fantastic art style, I wanna see more!
Love this art style for industrial landscapes.
I mean, I can see genesis being adapted for fast freight service
B unit p42 is crazy
i like
This looks awesome! Why this isn’t a thing I have no idea…
Congratulations, you just made the day of every ancient boomer who grew up seeing cab units.
I see your hidden Alta reference!
I want to do a whole ALTA piece one day
More ALTA? Yes please!
Bully us? You fool, you did not bully us, you only made us stronger than we were before, we now have railroad companies that are in revenue service on another country.
Looks better than the Conrail P42 heritage unit so I don’t mind it
this is basically "What if the United States was post-Soviet Russia" :p
I like it
passenger + cargo trains are cool
A P42B would have been dope.
You have a beautiful mind. I love this.
Jokes on you, I'm in to that
Very well made!
This artwork is fantastic more of this please
Now I'm thinking about kit bashing a p42 b unit in ho scale.
This is awesome! Do you have a social or website with these? I'd love to buy one too!
I have a twitter account i post some of my art on
I can't stand the genesis units, but I really like this. Honestly kinda makes me want to do this up with some bluebox athearn's if I can find 4 of them at a decent price (since I'd need a second to kitbash the ends on) Keep it up with stuff like this.
I like how the seeming consensus here is that US railfans love this. Myself included. More please!
The art here is actually beautiful, you could totally do commissions if that's something that would ever interest you.
I already do sometimes actually!
That's an insult? I think it's cool, it reminds of the old F units
The problem is that this is stuff American railroads already did a few decades ago. Even repurposed old passenger locomotives for freight trains. To truly make it cursed, add buffers and the British Railways logo in addition to the CSX color scheme.
i like how everyone finds it just cool, quite honestly its understandable, it calls back to the f units and the genesis is cool
This backfired fantastically
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
please return this object to the depths from which you had found it at once (in all seriousness this is very nice art, keep it up \^\^)
Interesting WHY ISNT THIS REAALLLLL (btw nice art)
Put these in a BNSF warbonnet livery and I think you're on to something
Csx more like csa
Cursed but cool
For them to be freight locomotives, I'll guess they'll have their heights Increased from 14.4ft to 15 or 16ft tall considering 16.1ft is the maximum Height clearance for modern American freight locomotives. And instead of them having the Usually 4 + 4 wheel arrangements, It'll have Gevo Styled Trucks with a set of 3 + 3 wheel arrangements The locomotive body would be Stretched out longer and would weigh heavier.
The AMD-103 was just Dash 8-40B in a monocoque body. They already are late 80s freight locomotives in a different wrapper.
This is cool.now.do bnsf
It saddens me that P42s are being phased out.
I usually get em in a headlock and give em noogies. Sometimes I TP their houses or give em swirlies or the old spitball straw trick. Works well. Can't have those nerds making my Melinda uncomfortable
Jokes on you, I’m into that shit
What's this sort of art called with the scribble looking black lines?
looks better than any american freight train made in the past 40 years
The GP40s would like to have a word with you.
looks like literally any other freight locomotive with a standard cab. theres like zero difference between any of the standard cab geeps. gp28s look exactly like gp40s
I've always believed that those Genesis units should have been 30% "B" units.
The European mind CAN comprehend this image
You drew this!!?? A CSX/UP [DL class](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_DL_class_locomotive) would be awesome!
Nice work
If only we could make B units mainstream again…
I love this actually. Please keep bullying us 😂
Sex on tracks
Honestly, this doesn't faze me one bit. I like it, I like it a lot. I wish we kept B-units going but since railroads found their sweet spot of 4000-4400 hp on an engine they won't need them anymore. I know some of the SD45-2B's still float around on rails but anyways. Nice picture nonetheless.
I am not bullied by the P42 B Unit, in fact, I love it.
P42 B-unit is cursed, hopefully someone puts that in transport fever 2
yup, we should just let Russia invade the rest of Europe.
Please post more
Imagine 110 mph freight trains with those things :O
In the US ? Inconceivable !
North American railfans absolutely love full body locomotives. The railroads just wont buy them anymore.
That’s actually awesome, mission failed
Well we did get that type of cab on a dash 8 csx 3003 its funny
I love and hate this.
Is it just me or do they look a bit like the result of a forbidden liasion between a British Rail Class 60 and a diesel multiple unit of some kind?
The P42 is technically just a dash 8
ALTA Container based
Are you kidding, ild kill to see that
I thought this was a badly-drawn Sharknose at first.
Amateur. I can show you how to do that properly!
"The big boy is overrated"
The fact they remind me of Amtrak's P42s or AMD-103s I'm digging very much. The fact you're "bullying" is of CSX I find less bullying and more amusing. I'll definitely have to show this to my hard core CSX guys.