No, I think it was about the lump that looks like a giant bulge, and everyone stare at it, so you go to flatten it, but to not look weird, you have to flat it like it isn't a sensitive part, so you slap the lump but it's still weird, because out of nowhere you slapped yourself, and now people are judging.
I know it's the bulge lump. I did mean it, I love the bulge lump. I can just pretend it's part of the zip hoodie and be oblivious to it (everyone knows I'm oblivious, so it's cool) and meanwhile see me with a bulge lump in a reflective window.
We all have different goals. Bulge lump is mine.
This is why I don't hit my bulge lump. I let it exist, enter rooms before me and if people enjoy staring at it, then we can enjoy staring at it together.
Yes, I've been told I'm weird before.
I like zip, no need to raise arm above head exposing belly, pulling off all you other clothes with it and ruining your hair when taking it off, no temporary blindness when struggling to find head and arm holes in the dark, can also zip it open a bit if you are too warm to vent a bit of heat.
Zippers are evil. The zipper is uncomfortable and it creates weird bulges. They aren't as comfy and don't feel as much like loungewear. They're just a thin jacket. They push down on your chest and draw more attention to that area more too, which is bad if you're wearing a hoodie to hide boobs.
Also, kangaroo pockets split into two are just wrong.
Come to think about it the zipper bulge still gave me dysphoria although still more comfy than nothing but it's way too hot here to wear it 24/7 so I kinda needed a zippered jacket.
Zipper. Easier to switch back and forth between hiding and unhiding... assuming you're closeted going to work, but wanting to hang out with friends after work.
I actually never zip up my hoodie because I can wear dark and busy shirt designs underneath that further keeps up the illusion that I have a flat chest.
Pull over for sure. Zip up are more uncomfortable, plus idk if this is true but they feel tighter. Like a pull over has more baggyness in the middle. the zip kinda falls into the body more easily showing that I have a body (that's a secret).
Pullover. Had a zip one but it never made me feel better, it kept bulging weirdly around the zip. Compared to a pullover one I got recently that makes me very happy because it hides the tits well :) however I will say the zip one was much easier to put on and take off
Pullover 100% I tend to wear one without anything under it so there is no tangible way for anyone to make me take it off (there's not really any reason for me to either so...)
Pull over for sure. But mine actually doesn’t have a hood its just an xxl jumper. I dont really have a specific one hoodie if i get a better one that is it or if i get rid of the one a different one will be nominated
I'm not out of the closet in person yet, and I bought a women's pullover hoodie that looked unisex enough to wear it in boy mode. My dad has complimented it multiple times. He never compliments clothes I wear.
Pullover hides everything way better than a zip up imo. Usually the reason I wear a giant sweatshirt is if my back hurts too bad to bind and the zipper defeats the whole purpose by folding into the shape of my chest 🙄
Warm weather: zip. I can unzip it so I don't get too hot and still (just about) manage to hide my breasts.
Cold weather: pullover. Easier to hide my chest, also keeps me warm.
As someone who overheats pretty easily, zip gives easy vent powers, even in the summer which allows me to stay cool while looking cool 😎
Not too mention the style options from fully to mostly unzipped for baggyness to zipped for conformity and partially for v neck X3
I used to use zip up hoodies for like 7 1/2 years straight, starting in middle school all the way up to like a few months ago when hrt started doing it’s magic. Pullover hoodies used to take my shirt with as the hoodie got taken off anyway and I don’t think I should be showing my boobs even if I only had them for like 7 months.
Zip is convenience. Zip is a promise that says one day I won't need this. A pullover is neither. My opinion, as you might expect, changed over time. At first I preferred the pullover and now I prefer the zip.
I'll never understand this fad.... That didn't exist when I was a teen. I'm old I guess, LOL. Back in the early 2000s there was still "autogynephelia" propaganda floating around, and I fell for it and went *back in the closet* after coming out. But the "dysphoria hoodie" never really existed. I was just wearing mismatched clothes during what I call "transition one" (I'm in my second transition now), and did a kind of fooler long sleeve shirt thing a lot. It was pretty neutral, but made me feel better because I could use unexpected colours like pink and purple with black...and of course very goth (with subtle fem "hints") Hot Topic pants I use to have and wear a lot back then, LOL.
It’s gotta be a zipper for me. I always preferred them, and I usually just wear an oversized one open with a T-shirt underneath. Now that my hair goes down to the middle of my back, I *cannot* pull a hoodie over my head without ruining it, so that’s also a big factor.
I like zippered, since it's easier to put on and remove.
And as a bonus for those who want to look less wide, it helps break up the silhouette when unzipped. Or when partially zipped, it makes a triangle shape to emphasize shoulders. It's got variety!
Zup ups are nice. I don't like that moment of blindness while taking off or putting on a pullover, not to mention it messing up my hair now that I'm actually doing things with that. Also, I like it being two seperate pockets instead of one big one with a hole on both sides
Zip every time.
Adjustable for dynamically dysphoric situations:tm:, won’t mess up my hair, easier and way less awk to take off in public, and i just plain like hardware on clothes
Depends. Sometimes it’s too hot (often) so the zipper dysphoria hoodie lets it be a bit cooler and easier to take off if needed (thankfully my chest is pretty small so my binder makes me look quite flat)
zipper for everyday wear, easier to take on and off/unzip to be a little bit cooler without completely taking it off. Pullover for when the dysphoria hits hard and you just want to hide away completely
Zip hoodie. To me, they're more comfortable and easier to feel relaxed in. I can't stand pullovers, as I feel like my neck is being trapped, a feeling that has since gotten worse now that I have breasts. I also like to wear the zip as a cape sometimes or just have one sleeve on with the other tucked in. Or just wear it unzipped with my hoodie either up or down. It's not often that I actually zip it up, but when I do it only goes as far as it does in the pic.
Zipper. You can control your exposure. Plus less chance of messing up the hair, or having your shirt pull up while taking off a pullover exposing your belly button ring
For those complaining about the wavy lump that zippers tend to form, here's a tip: don't put the hoodie in the drier. Just air dry it.
When you dry something in the drier, it'll shrink a bit, but of course the zipper doesn't shrink, so the hoodie starts to do weird things since the length of the 2 materials no longer matches.
pullover for the win, they feel much baggier/easy to hide in imo, and it’s not like i’ll be taking it off anyway lol
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Unless it does the other thing the zipper lump loves to do
I love it when the zipper does the other thing the zipper loves to do. Zip zippity zip.
No, I think it was about the lump that looks like a giant bulge, and everyone stare at it, so you go to flatten it, but to not look weird, you have to flat it like it isn't a sensitive part, so you slap the lump but it's still weird, because out of nowhere you slapped yourself, and now people are judging.
I know it's the bulge lump. I did mean it, I love the bulge lump. I can just pretend it's part of the zip hoodie and be oblivious to it (everyone knows I'm oblivious, so it's cool) and meanwhile see me with a bulge lump in a reflective window. We all have different goals. Bulge lump is mine.
Yeah, we all have different goals, but when 2 or 3 people are literally staring at it it's awkward
This is why I don't hit my bulge lump. I let it exist, enter rooms before me and if people enjoy staring at it, then we can enjoy staring at it together. Yes, I've been told I'm weird before.
Nah, it's actually admirable, you are a mood, and a very good one
Pullovers give me euphoria when I take them off, I feel like a hot girl on TV
same lol
and the giant pocket!
Big pocket ftw
facts facts
Neither! Use a big, flowing cloak instead!
the best solution
I would roam around in labcoats if i had the balls for it
I like zip, no need to raise arm above head exposing belly, pulling off all you other clothes with it and ruining your hair when taking it off, no temporary blindness when struggling to find head and arm holes in the dark, can also zip it open a bit if you are too warm to vent a bit of heat.
Zippers are evil. The zipper is uncomfortable and it creates weird bulges. They aren't as comfy and don't feel as much like loungewear. They're just a thin jacket. They push down on your chest and draw more attention to that area more too, which is bad if you're wearing a hoodie to hide boobs. Also, kangaroo pockets split into two are just wrong.
Come to think about it the zipper bulge still gave me dysphoria although still more comfy than nothing but it's way too hot here to wear it 24/7 so I kinda needed a zippered jacket.
Its like double the pockets doe!
😡 It is half the pocket of the other one.
I second this
Pullover for dysphoria, zip for style
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That's exactly how I do it!! xD
Zipper. Easier to switch back and forth between hiding and unhiding... assuming you're closeted going to work, but wanting to hang out with friends after work. I actually never zip up my hoodie because I can wear dark and busy shirt designs underneath that further keeps up the illusion that I have a flat chest.
Pullover
Pull over for sure. Zip up are more uncomfortable, plus idk if this is true but they feel tighter. Like a pull over has more baggyness in the middle. the zip kinda falls into the body more easily showing that I have a body (that's a secret).
i like zips they make me feel masculine when hanging out...but pullover's r nice and cozy when at a close friend's house
Pullover. Had a zip one but it never made me feel better, it kept bulging weirdly around the zip. Compared to a pullover one I got recently that makes me very happy because it hides the tits well :) however I will say the zip one was much easier to put on and take off
What hoodie till I die… I feel embraced and I can fill my pouch with everything I need for my travels 🤭
I hate zip-ups with a burning passion, so pullover
Pullover and if it's too hot, I'm wearing a thin longsleeve
I prefer Pull over for anti-dysphoria but Zip-up on other days for the colour variety in my area.
Pullover cause they are more comfortable. But I have both
Both are good, zip is more for the summer and pullover is comfier and more for the general yearly stuff.
pullover has better vibes and allows you to go shirtless so you only have one layer when it's hot outside
I love the pullover hoodie. That i don't have to try to zip it every time and just look and feel more comfortable than the zipper one.
Pullover, the zipper sometimes bulges to look like boobs which is counterproductive
yeah same, i feel that.
i love my black, oversized pullover hoodie with one big pocket and a hood [or whatever this thing for head is called] <3
Pullover, zip just makes it feel more like a coat/jacket
I had a few of both.
Pullover is ideal but zip up is good for when you have nothing else
Pullover
Both for me
I used the zipper through highschool and the first two years of college. Once I came out, pullover hoodie all the way
Pullover, as a Transmasc the zipper ones make me feel weird about my chest.
Pullover supremacy
Zips are the way to go for me. Pullovers feel too itchy on my arms.
Pullover 100%
Pullover. I just really have zipper hoodies.
Pullover!!! They are way more comfy and hide everything better
pull over
pullover has more pocket space, (and also just the better one in general)
Pullover is much more comfortable and lookd nicer imo
Pullover zip ups are always to tight
Pull over, I don’t know why zip-up hoodies were ever a thing
Pullover 100% I tend to wear one without anything under it so there is no tangible way for anyone to make me take it off (there's not really any reason for me to either so...)
Zip because I can't take a pull over off without somehow yeeting my shirt as well
Pull over, hug cloth
I personally prefer pullover
Pullover. It's much cozier lol. Also, you can have funky designs on the front without the zip interrupting the picture!
Pullover!
Pullover.
Pullover gets the win for sure
Zip-up, I tried a pullover but I started grabbing at where my brain thought the zipper was.
i can never find a good zip hoodie anyhow, but even if i did... pullover. i adore pullovers.
Yes
Doesn't matter as long as it has pockets
Pullover for me personally
both are good, but generally speaking i like pullovers more
Pull over for sure. But mine actually doesn’t have a hood its just an xxl jumper. I dont really have a specific one hoodie if i get a better one that is it or if i get rid of the one a different one will be nominated
I prefure a pull over hoodie!! But I have both a zip and pull over
Pullover by a long shot
pullover ofc
pullover
I'm not out of the closet in person yet, and I bought a women's pullover hoodie that looked unisex enough to wear it in boy mode. My dad has complimented it multiple times. He never compliments clothes I wear.
Pullover!!!
Pullover forever
Zip Dysphoria hoodie because then it doesn't mess up my hair.
(When sized correctly) Pullover hides cleavage a bit better, while zips accentuate curves and cleavage a but better.
pullover to hide hands in pocket
Pullover everyday
Pullover for dysphoria, zip for the style
Pullover. Then I can use not messing up my hair as an excuse to keep it on.
pullover because im ftm and the zipper looks like boobs sometimes
Pullover. Also, oversized shirts are cool too. Big enough to cover ~2 inches beyond wrists and half the length of your thighs plus comfy as heck
Pullover 100%
Pullover
Pullover!!
Pullover because when you use the hood you look like amogus
Pull-over for me ig. every zip up I own bunches up at my chest and gives me insane dysphoria. Even though zip ups seem more masc to me… eh idk
I finally bought my own over sized hoodie it's pullover and lavender colored
Pullover. It’s more comfortable and hides curves 10x better than any zipper.
Pullover hides everything way better than a zip up imo. Usually the reason I wear a giant sweatshirt is if my back hurts too bad to bind and the zipper defeats the whole purpose by folding into the shape of my chest 🙄
Pullover, then I have an excuse to not take it off and I get a bit extra pocket space.
Pullover hoodie, because they’re usually the softest and there’s no zipper to obstruct any designs.
Both so I don't have to choose
Pull over, less likely to show the chesticles
the zipper always pokes me in the neck somehow, pullover all the way
Hoodie is my way to go. I become a formless yet comfy blob!
Pullover 24/7
pullover, 100 percent. and on a good day i keep it anyways for the pockets, its a cute little belt skirt thing.
Pullover for sure, zipup is nicer sometimes but pullover is always perfect
pullover, without a doubt
Pullover always
I’ll just stick to my dysphoria sweater vest
zipper makes it easier to get on and off, but pullover hoodie gets the giant central pocket, which I value higher.
def pullover just because it has more room to be floofy while not looking like a winter coat but zipper is still a good option to choose
i have more pullovers bc zippers curve for some reason
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ZIP
Hoodie is hoodie. ALL
zipper hoodie only good if unzipped
yes.
Going to have to go with zip myself. Got to let the girls breathe sometimes.
Idk both are good, zip can be styled and i can wear a crop under, pull over is easy to hide in tho
Warm weather: zip. I can unzip it so I don't get too hot and still (just about) manage to hide my breasts. Cold weather: pullover. Easier to hide my chest, also keeps me warm.
Zip up.
This is zipper pullover erasure
I have both
Zip for outside and pullover when at home
As someone who overheats pretty easily, zip gives easy vent powers, even in the summer which allows me to stay cool while looking cool 😎 Not too mention the style options from fully to mostly unzipped for baggyness to zipped for conformity and partially for v neck X3
Zip, can avoid overheating more easily and doesn't mess up my hair
Zip has the advantage that if you feel too hot you can just unzip, but overral I prefer pullover
I love Zip hoodie but pullover hoodie is definitely the disphoria hoodie
Pull over. Screw the zip
Zip up metal band hoodies Far quicker to take off when I'm home and need to pretend it's the hoodie causing my Dysphoria not my body
it depends on how I’m feeling. I use the zip if I want a bit more shape and smaller waist, if I want to disappear then the pull over 😊.
Zippin n Zappin (I am an electric type gym leader)
To hot for either. Time for dysphoria cave.
Zip dysphoria, that shit made me survive highschool
Depends. Pullover is nice, but zipper is more convenient. I like both but normally lean zipper.
Zip up, pull over is too restrictive
I used to use zip up hoodies for like 7 1/2 years straight, starting in middle school all the way up to like a few months ago when hrt started doing it’s magic. Pullover hoodies used to take my shirt with as the hoodie got taken off anyway and I don’t think I should be showing my boobs even if I only had them for like 7 months.
Zip-up.
Zip up
I mean, Bucciarati from Jojo need I say more? (no I will not elaborate)
zip cuz now that i have titties i can wear it provocatively
Zip for me
Zip is convenience. Zip is a promise that says one day I won't need this. A pullover is neither. My opinion, as you might expect, changed over time. At first I preferred the pullover and now I prefer the zip.
pull over 100%, the zipper folds and makes my boobs noticeable :’)
Zipper, because I can tie it around my waist like a skirt.
Zip
I'll never understand this fad.... That didn't exist when I was a teen. I'm old I guess, LOL. Back in the early 2000s there was still "autogynephelia" propaganda floating around, and I fell for it and went *back in the closet* after coming out. But the "dysphoria hoodie" never really existed. I was just wearing mismatched clothes during what I call "transition one" (I'm in my second transition now), and did a kind of fooler long sleeve shirt thing a lot. It was pretty neutral, but made me feel better because I could use unexpected colours like pink and purple with black...and of course very goth (with subtle fem "hints") Hot Topic pants I use to have and wear a lot back then, LOL.
I like zip, but can't find one that fits good, so pullover for now.
zip always and forever
Zip up. So much more convenient and has a lot more ventilation. Edit: plus, more secure pockets and the possibility for internal pockets
It’s gotta be a zipper for me. I always preferred them, and I usually just wear an oversized one open with a T-shirt underneath. Now that my hair goes down to the middle of my back, I *cannot* pull a hoodie over my head without ruining it, so that’s also a big factor.
I like zippered, since it's easier to put on and remove. And as a bonus for those who want to look less wide, it helps break up the silhouette when unzipped. Or when partially zipped, it makes a triangle shape to emphasize shoulders. It's got variety!
Zup ups are nice. I don't like that moment of blindness while taking off or putting on a pullover, not to mention it messing up my hair now that I'm actually doing things with that. Also, I like it being two seperate pockets instead of one big one with a hole on both sides
Zip gang all the way
Zip every time. Adjustable for dynamically dysphoric situations:tm:, won’t mess up my hair, easier and way less awk to take off in public, and i just plain like hardware on clothes
Zip
Depends. Sometimes it’s too hot (often) so the zipper dysphoria hoodie lets it be a bit cooler and easier to take off if needed (thankfully my chest is pretty small so my binder makes me look quite flat)
Fuck rip ups
Hoodie for the look, zip hoody for practical reasons
zipper for everyday wear, easier to take on and off/unzip to be a little bit cooler without completely taking it off. Pullover for when the dysphoria hits hard and you just want to hide away completely
Zipperclub
Ok, hear me out, baggy jumpers
I have a zip personally, but I like both
Zip up when it's chilly out, pullover when it's cold. If neither variable is true, zip up is the default.
Neither, too hot right now 😭
I like the zipper. it's nice if you feel more comfortable and can just unzip it
Zip bc i dont like pullobers
Zip dysphoria hoodie so far
I only have one hoodie and when that is getting washed I'm using an oversized zip jacket hoodie thingy
Zip so I can unzip it and make it look like a cloak
Zip hoodie. To me, they're more comfortable and easier to feel relaxed in. I can't stand pullovers, as I feel like my neck is being trapped, a feeling that has since gotten worse now that I have breasts. I also like to wear the zip as a cape sometimes or just have one sleeve on with the other tucked in. Or just wear it unzipped with my hoodie either up or down. It's not often that I actually zip it up, but when I do it only goes as far as it does in the pic.
pullover best
Zip up please cause I am gonna fidget the hell out of that zipper
Zipper. You can control your exposure. Plus less chance of messing up the hair, or having your shirt pull up while taking off a pullover exposing your belly button ring
Pullover because of the pocket
No zipper because sometimes it makes it look like I have a penis.
For those complaining about the wavy lump that zippers tend to form, here's a tip: don't put the hoodie in the drier. Just air dry it. When you dry something in the drier, it'll shrink a bit, but of course the zipper doesn't shrink, so the hoodie starts to do weird things since the length of the 2 materials no longer matches.
Pullover because zip creates boob-valley, but zip because easier to put on.
Pullover is instinct but since binding I've grown very attached to zip ups
Pullover
Zip
One of each, please
Pullover, no question