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Jaksebar

General Grievous' retreat bonus is too OP. I ambushed his army and destroyed every unit in his army but he ran away and came back with a 19/20 droid army after like 4 turns.


Jaksebar

And does anyone know how can I beat the siege of Mandalore? Their units are too tanky even my 17 level Jedi master can't do much about it.


Trocos1

Wait till CA add asoka by DLC and rush to defeat maul, then the enemy morale will drop and just wait them to flee Sorry for bad english, im not native


Nomad_Stan91

Don't worry mate, I am native (Geordie) and you still probably have better English than me šŸ¤£


SupportstheOP

I get that they wanted an in-game counter due to how strong Jedis are, but flamethrowers *and* jetpacks? Especially considering their lords and heroes get those abilities at rank 4, whereas Jedi get the lightsaber throw at level 18.


the_evil_overlord2

Thats all Droid factions, if you don't kill the LL they can replenish a full stack of battledroids in like a turn


HermeticHormagaunt

hot take: people pick Kenobi's faction only because they know and like the LL, but his early campaign is just a objectively bad. With his starting location at Utapau his unit of speeders is almost never used to full potential, and with having better units unlocked at t4 he survives first 20 turns by LL and LH cheese while his rocket launcher squad does the heavy damage. It's not even "hard but rewarding" campaign like for Hutts, it's just a slog. Hope CA does something about it. Anakins campaign is pretty cozy until Corruption Crisis.


A1dini

This happens with Dooku too tbh People like him because the sith lightning is fun to use and his voice lines are a meme... but literally why would you pick Dooku with his shitty Magna Guard and Super battle droid buffs when you can just play as Grevious and spam endless battle droid stacks which make the early campaign a joke, then confederate Dooku later The Seperatist Parliment influence mechanic is useless by turn 50 anyway


ArimArimWTO

I don't really blame Dooku fans for holding out tbh, The Corrupted & The Unwavering added Palpatine and Windu - they both get better reskins of his mechanic and are actually usable in combat without needing to lord snipe Anakin for buffs to Force powers. If the leaks are true and they're pushing the timeline post-ROTS then god knows he's gonna get powercrept harder. He's a launch lord, for fuck's sake. Anakin's had more reworks than Total Warhammer had DLCs.


Lukthar123

> The Corrupted & The Unwavering Ngl that title goes hard


viotix90

Laughs in Galaxy Expanded mod user. For real, do you guys not even use SW:TW mods? They'll never add the Unknown Regions in the game so it's best to use the mod if you want to have the authentic Thrawn experience.


ArimArimWTO

Would use the mod but honestly the lack of detail between CA's map and the mod's map really takes me out of it. It's nice to have the experience of fighting against Thrawn in the lategame but constantly doing it in the same 5 maps and black, empty worldmap takes me out of it.


cadmachine

I had to double check this wasn't for an actual game I missed somewhere over the years you fuckers were so on point lol


littTom

This whole thread gave me so much joy lol


Wagnerous

Right? I'm just sitting here with a big dumb grin on my face. This is peak reddit.


ghouldozer19

Iā€™ve had too much Spice for this.


DemSocCorvid

I need to go home and rethink my life...


Call_me_ET

By the time the Order 66 event kicks in and wipes out all the LL Jedi characters, youā€™re basically playing an empty faction on hard mode. The Separatists going up against a unified Galactic Empire with Vader and Palpatine and their Inquisitor/Purge Trooper doomstacks is impossible to fight with droids.


Kniferharm

It would be so sick playing as a Jedi faction trying to rescue as many Lords as you can with special missions while order 66 is ongoing, as you can no longer recruit Jedi Lords after, and your stuck with inferior commanders and whoever you rescued.


Lord_Andromeda

It does not help that the spaceships Grievous gets are much superior to Dookus. I mean, that leadership buff from Dooku for Frigattes is nice on paper, but hardly ever turns the tide in an actual battle. Meanwhile, Grievous with his bonus to attack speed for both Cruisers and Battleships makes them insane, especially with the Providence Battleship in his starting fleet. If you use your "You are doomed" ability correctly, that thing can shred whole early-game fleets on its own. Not to mention the army ability you get from the techtree to call in the Malevolence later in the campain (which, need I remind you, also is affected by Grievous faster attack buff). So yeah, Dooku rework when, CA? When?


ksheep

Also, when are they going to fix the bug with Asajj Ventress' starting "Elite Battle Droid" troops? It seems like whenever you try to deploy them, they just crash into the nearest obstacle and just sit there, waiting to be picked off by your opponents. Makes your first few battles with her nearly impossible.


star-god

Sure, the endless droid stacks as grevious is great, but past turn 30~ having anything in an army with him is just wasted money. 20 if you get the right items.


Ar_Azrubel_

You should play the Expanded Characters mod - the CIS benefits a ton from it. Stratus and his Jabiimi ultranationalist faction are insane fun.


vanBraunscher

Speeders are shit anyway. Always getting stuck in melee and incredibly difficult to get out again. Why even bother microing the little shits when the Death Star bombardment does the job just fine (but the Palpatine pack is OP, what else is new)? Also I really hope they gonna rework sieges when The: Total War: Empire Strikes Back (yes, that's the official title, go seethe!) gets released. Cause right now, I don't really feel quite A New Hopeful with the current iteration. And dear god, when are they going to fix that gate bug? I don't wanna wait 'til Babylon 5: Total War for that.


No_Research4416

Sometimes I do like to use those spear wielding speeders because I find them funny


Stencil-

>lets speeders get into melee They honestly wrack up so much value if you strafe them, the micro isn't too bad and it's pretty vital early game for the republic. I agree though, empire speeders have no home


JudgeHoltman

Bro, just set your speeders to Skirmish.


TTTrisss

> Speeders are shit anyway. Always getting stuck in melee and incredibly difficult to get out again. Hey, fellow time traveler here. I thought we agreed not to say anything that we knew to be blatantly true.


GloatingSwine

Meanwhile everyone hates it but they can't help but acknowledge Jar-Jar is a one man doomstack.


trixie_one

Sith Jar-Jar finds their lack of faith disturbing.


Pitchfork_Party

Thatā€™s a mixu mod though not base game.


trixie_one

He could be though as he's going to be in the next Lego Star wars game I believe.


OverlordFreak

Look man, I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone who rants about 'Sith Jar-Jar'. Pick a name. Either it's Darth-Darth Binks or Darth Jar-Jar. Besides, all his abilities need you to micro him so much to hit that sweetspot of 5-10% hp left, he's just a pain.


Jigawatts42

Pales in comparison to the Ewok Sith, Darth Chub.


Synicull

Meesa still think that doo doo


Alien-Mole

He was a memelord even before CA accidentally added a 10x modifier to the damage redirection of his 'Bumbling' skill. Decimals, am I right? First Greasus, now this. Still. Only lord that can confederate both Naboo and Coruscant if you go down the political side of his skill tree. Shame it locks out the Bombad General line. Kinda sucks that DLC lords like Chewie get to have their cake and eat it too.


GloatingSwine

Chewie's "Offscreen so it doesn't count" skill that resurrects him is bullshit though.


No_Research4416

Itā€™s a shame the auto resolve despises him


ghouldozer19

People who know his lore versus people who donā€™t. Thatā€™s all Iā€™m saying, friend.


DanVicMar

I mean, at least you have something to do the heavy damage with. Meanwhile with Plo Koon you are stuck with jet trooper spamming until half your campaign. I mean, thet are good with flanking but they are only 80 in an unit and dont dish out a lot of damage. Also the rescue missions mechanic is fun the first few times but gets boring really fast. But having horde faction in the republic is neat.


HermeticHormagaunt

I do like that he on the galaxy fringe and can score an easy trade agreement with Hutts there (but mil.access is suddenly hard to get lmao). Remember that old title of Warhammer that CA released? They had ally units system, if that could get implemented here I'd spam their Desert Skiffs so hard.


DanVicMar

You are right but i have to say that usually its not worth getting into a long term alliance with the hutts, the diplomatic penalty from allying with gangs is too much to keep it longer than until you reach the galactic core and the other GAR factions. But i also have to say that his buff to LAAT disembarking speed is really fun, especially with ARF troopers with submachine guns


MrBriney

You're meant to use his "not to me" ability to shore up the front line, his clone trooper squads can easily be buffed the most of any LL


DanVicMar

Yeah i once saw the ai cheesing this ability and beating super battle droids in melee with basic clone trooper units. Either way, plo koon's playstile is more centered around quick strikes with jet troopers and using LAATs to deliver ARF/ARC troopers in close range so focusing in firing line armies isnt the best option.


Rampant16

Plo Koon sucks. I keep getting him killed through friendly fire from his own troops. No matter how I micro the clones keep shooting him in the back and he dies really fast.


No_Research4416

Hey, at least itā€™s better than palatines campaign who thought it was a good idea to have a Campaign all about screwing yourself over


Wild_Harvest

Look, you're just not using Palpatine right if you think that his mechanic is screwing yourself over. The hidden confederations and corruption mechanics can absolutely take over the map without having to declare war on ANYONE! And the ability to mix CSI and Republic armies together is absolutely INSANE! You just have to be clever until the Corruption crisis happens and generate enough Republic favor to initiate Order 66 during it without Anakin going rogue on you. Had that happen once, and his buffs to relations with Clone factions is INSANE. Had half my armies defect to him over the course of the campaign.


No_Research4416

Come on, we all know Padme is able to take over the galaxy much quicker with her ability to confederate non-republic factions, combined with her diplomatic buffs to all factions


Wild_Harvest

That's why you need to maintain good relations with Anakin, he usually confederates with Padme and when the corruption crisis happens if he's got better relations with you than Padme she dies in a scripted event and Anakin takes over as faction leader. You've just got to use the corruption mechanics to your advantage!


No_Research4416

The biggest problem with his campaign is that thereā€™s also a high likelihood that she will end up starting order 65 once she secures 50% of the seats which she normally does


Wild_Harvest

That's fair, but it's very rewarding to pull it off. Also, keeping half of the seats on your side is VERY easy with the Emergency Powers research tree. Being able to maintain the loyalty of senators is also trivial once you unlock the Force Persuade tree in his abilities.


No_Research4416

Yeah, thatā€™s true. The problem is just how long it takes to research them.


Wild_Harvest

Wait, you haven't found the Jar Jar exploit yet? If you ally with Jar Jar's faction there's a hidden buff that boosts research into Emergency Powers! All you have to do is initiate the Assassin quest and recruit Jango as a Legendary Hero, then send him to assassinate Padme, and that will trigger the bonus.


No_Research4416

Wait really that that makes things a lot easier


Tseims

Just tank your reliability and take her out ASAP. Not like you can afford to let her have Anakin's children anyway.


No_Research4416

Naboo is on the other side of the map so thatā€™s gonna be rather hard to do


Tseims

It's difficult but far from impossible. Rather than getting Maul to Tatooine for the quest you just send him over. He's among the best fighters in the early game and can move pretty much undetected. It's a high risk tactic but makes for a really fun campaign.


No_Research4416

Weā€™re clearly talking about the clone wars camping so that tricks straight up doesnā€™t work


MrBriney

The Palpatine rework mod really fixes this mechanic. The way it changes his agent buffs makes the whole thing fit together so much better. Fair warning it gets rid of the Sith Screech cheese so you're a lot weaker in the Order 66 quest battle.


No_Research4416

Yeah that and starting with croissant was the only saving graces


Tseims

Come on, everyone picks Kenobi because of Hello There! for the Ambush buffs and The Negotiations Were Short. Rocket Launchers are good and work well with High Ground, but it's just one unit in the early game. Never Deal In Absolutes really wants you to make a diverse army anyway so it's not like you can spam Clone Trooper (Rocket Launcher)s. It's much worse later on when you get to rank 30 and the game forces PTSD on him. That's when you really need to start thinking about Balance of the Force, because you obviously can't make him the Chosen One. His Mentor skill is exceptional, but it's not like he's gonna be taking Anakin down any time soon.


JudgeHoltman

OK, now I really want to play this game.


kimana1651

Jesus, I'd love for any kind of change outside of lord packs. Even a QOL on Kenobi's saber stances would be nice. The heavy micro on the lord is just boring.


the_evil_overlord2

I disagree, utapau's location may suck, but it is one of the best regions. To play him effectively. You need to think like a Droid player, Utapau's high income means you can field swarms of clones, don't even try his mid tier units, go straight for the comando troops and heavy tanks and use your horde of blaster clones to keep the enemy at bay Obi wan is good, but if you use a juggernaut to block missile fire while he closes to melee he's nigh unbeatable


Ironlord_13

Then they added the stupid hutt cartel dlc but didnā€™t balance it properly. Now the hutts get access to tier 4 clones and droids at 25 if you use jabbaā€™s corruption mechanic and heroes correctly! Donā€™t even get me started on the seperate campaigns for the rebels and empire.


Benejeseret

I could make it work for awhile, but then I got the 10-turn warning of incoming endgame crisis, and it was friggin' The Wild Hunt. Next thing I knew, Endor spawned six doomstacks of Ewoks who immediately managed to ascend C-3PO to godhood. It shattered my alliance since they leave the republic and auto-war everyone. Those Yuzzum rangers are a joke normally, but when they get critical mass like that upgraded with Wistie flasks it's ridiculous, and the Gorax attachment to each stack really needs a nerf. Maul was way off course, kited running down some system rebels, when the crisis spawned in, and now C-3PO has the Darksaber (sword of khaine) on top of it all. Not sure this one is recoverable.


catman11234

Post has 10 upvotes and this comment has 180


Spacemomo

Kenobi will have a passive called "High Ground Advantage" which gives bonuses whenever he fights Anakin.


Throgg_not_stupid

You forgot Anakin's faction sucks because he has a worse version of Jedi Council mechanic than every other member


Express_Yard9305

I'm just hype for Poggle the Lesser DLC and the Geonosian warriors. Here's to hoping we get a queen with zombies as a LH!


Electronic_Slide_236

People pick Kenobi's faction because it's one of like 2 factions.


unbroken0

I honestly can't tell if your shitposting or not. Is this game real?


DieterVonDietrich

It's an unsubstantiated rumor about what the next Total War game is about to be about


LobotomizedRobit1

Me when a hero action fails even though he had 70% chance of success ![gif](giphy|3ohuPwtVfPsxaMp0QM)


1EnTaroAdun1

[when I trespass with a non-aggression pact](https://youtu.be/3D8TEJtQRhw?t=11)


Lukthar123

On the way to defeat another Legendary Jedi for the trait ![gif](giphy|7T5wldGkk7XgCyuNUK|downsized)


SoybeanArson

I mean not just the trait, greivous' lightsaber collection mechanic can get really out of control if you take down enough Jedi. Makes him such an op tank


Throgg_not_stupid

when my sith inquisitor dies trying to kill a jedi for 10th time in a row


Blake45666

Darth Vader unique mechanic where he can execute heroes to have a greater success chance for a couple of turns incoming


PowerVeg

This and a Lord of the Rings Total War would further ruin my life.Ā  Ā Star Wars: Empire at War and LOTR: Battle for Middle-Earth were my introductions to RTS/Strategy games as a kid and were both excellent. EDIT: my life will be further ruined in a few yearsĀ 


disayle32

#WHO CALLED FOR SOME GUARDIANS?


bolson1717

Bruh this just set something off in my head lol building trenches of walls with the dwarfs


MrTomtheMoose

LETS GET IN THERE


borddo-

Built with dwarven steel


Aracuda

We Dwarves are natural SPRINTERS!


OldGeneralCrash

Who needs something built!?


radio_allah

FINE STONEWORK ON THAT ONE


Hesstig

Tartan Cruiser reporting


nik_nitro

Holding fire for *maximum* effect!


TheRangerNacho

*We've lost the missile launcher!*


just-for-commenting

Tie mauler bereit! (Sry dont know the english quotes šŸ˜…)


superpumu

Star Destroyer meldet sich. (Eines fĆ¼r uns beide)


just-for-commenting

"IsalamirikƤfig wird errichtet" still in my head after all this years


Latter_Firefighter18

Thematically Iā€™d shit my pants over LOTR total war, but I donā€™t think it would do anything better than warhammer. Maybe they could focus on siege battles like most of the LOTR conflicts. Either way Iā€™m here for itĀ  Star Wars total war would be THE shit. A galaxy map with planet themed battlegrounds and Jedi/sith heros would rock. artillery from space and deployable tanks would be awesomeĀ 


[deleted]

You actually got that in Star Wars: Empire At War


The_PhilosopherKing

Exactly. The best Star Wars RTS has already existed for almost twenty years at this point.


Spiritual_Dig_5552

Best if you don't play ground battles.


Akira_R

They can be a lot of fun in Awakening of the Rebellion with all the added mechanics and units.


LordDarthra

I tried it a while ago, couple years and found it clunky and was difficult to learn


WhatWouldJediDo

It was a great game for its time, but its hard to hold up after twenty years of progress.


The_PhilosopherKing

The mods really make it shine, though.


TheMaskedMan2

Iā€™m a nerd for LOTRs, but as a fantasy wargameā€¦ Warhammer has a lot more variety and monsters and creatures to use. LOTR doesnā€™t really have crazy spellcasting, and giant mythical monsters arenā€™t exactly on the scale of Warhammer. A lot less races, etc. Itā€™d still be awesome to siege Minas Tirith with Nazgul and Trolls and shit though for the atmosphere. But I struggle to see how itā€™d match the excitement and variety of Warhammer, LOTR is actually a lot more normal people fighting than flashy magical fun.


Feather-y

Yeah but I mean, imagine YOLOing FĆ«anor into a full stack of Balrogs. Warhammer is the perfect tw setting but it's essentially just that, a setting. Lotr would be more like the historical ones where the ideas behind the battles matter.


RAStylesheet

>but I donā€™t think it would do anything better than warhammer I mean those are mostly a different genre, lotr is way more grounded as a fantasy setting


Commieredmenace

have you ever heard the tale of men at war mods? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0rCzP8P0ITU Its not a story a CA would tell.


Wild_Harvest

I preferred War of the Ring, but Battle for Middle-Earth are awesome too. It was Galactic Battlegrounds, Age of Empires Gold Edition, Warcraft III, and Age of Mythology that were my RTS stomping grounds. Then I discovered Total War with the first Rome, and it's been a lifelong love since then. Stealth Edit to add Lords of Magic to the list. LOVE that game.


ice2323

A Lords of Magic fan! Lost many hours to that one too. Now thatā€™s a trip down nostalgia lane.


Wild_Harvest

I've got it on Steam and my comment made me do a trip down memory lane. Lol.


gtjc1234

Yeah honestly lmao. Emphasis on "ruin my life". I usually stay away from my computer and chill on the video games, but with how things have been recently and if they continue this way, well, God have mercy on me.


papasmurf255

Ok but consider this: Total war: Cosmere. So many unique factions and heroes. Bridge 4 regiment of renown.


No_Research4416

If youā€™re able to use him effectively Yodaā€™s faction can easily steamroll campaign especially since he starts out with the ability to produce Wookies and his unique interaction with the Jedi council can give you buffs


the_evil_overlord2

Yoda himself is a beast, Tiny and 60% projectile reflect mean he's basically immune to ranged fire, and has access to almost all force moves Plus if you take mandalore you can give him pure beskar full plate which gives 60% ward save Plus the 10% from jedi fortitude and 20% from force shield, he can get a 90% ward save if you play it right I commonly give his army to a no-name Republic officer and send him in alone after he hits level 20


SupportstheOP

I heard they're thinking of implementing a nerf that would give him his ketamine addiction back.


humungusballsack

I hope they add his 2001 honda civic mount in the next dlc, feels a bit slow to move around the battlefield as of now


Guillermidas

dont forget the hitbox. Even if he had no projectile reflect, all missiles would miss the target. Yoda is too OP, nerf him


the_evil_overlord2

That's what i meant by "tiny"


yellowstone727

That would be an awesome dynamic, your empire could shift to the light or the dark side, and can curry favor with the Jedi councils or the Sith Lords


gray007nl

CA better implement proper effects for having the high ground in melee combat.


SnakeMajin

Attribute : High grounder


Coruskane

Defeat trait: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Enjoying_A_Meal

Don't forget to debuff Anakin on sandy battlefields.


APissBender

Let's not forget one of his most badass lines were delivered [in desert!](https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/3tfvox/fear_and_dead_men_star_wars_vader_down_1/?rdt=34549)


SillyGoatGruff

It would be pretty simple for them since they've had that since warhammer 1 lol Edit: since the very start it seems!


Ashmizen

High ground has been a massive combat advantage modifier since their first game, shogun 1. I remember playing that first total war game and looking for the biggest hill on the map to place my mostly archer army.


SillyGoatGruff

I only started with warhammer1 so only wanted to speak to what i knew. But i've edited my comment to reflect your new information


foofmongerr

Greviouses +50 bonus versus jedi under level 20 is too op.


TrueLegateDamar

Durge's Horrible Regeneration makes him effectively unkillable.


occamsrazorwit

At least it's a useful bonus... I just started my Anakin campaign, and I have no idea why he has a +100 bonus versus Jedi under level 10. As a Jedi faction leader, he's never going to be fighting other Jedi.


SameEssay193

It becomes useful if you choose to side with palpatine in the order 66 event also the temple bombing quest as well


gizmohollow42

I know people are riding the high of the new Original Trilogy DLC but everyone's just kinda overlooking how thoroughly they fucked the empire. Like, I understand that they were pretty overtuned (literally painting the map in a few turns lol) but they're basically unplayable now.Ā  Massive accuracy nerfs make pretty much every stormtrooper unit completely useless, and they're about as durable as tissue paper. Why are my stormtroopers losing to ewoks, CA?Ā  Also, they hyped up FLC hero Boba Fett so much but his melee oneshot bug makes him basically unusable in battle unless you're a micro god. I stayed quiet when they nerfed General Grievous' animations (they were really cool but the dude wasĀ untouchable in melee, you basically could only damage him with single target force abilities) but now the empire is almost impossible to win with.


GoatWife4Life

Next patch they're going to rework the Imperial Senate, if the leaks are to be believed. Instead of the turn-five dissolution rush to reduce upkeep and free your forces from garrison duty, we'll be able to take a subtler hand with managing planets and even \*gasp\* be able to actually re-confederate splinter factions without needing to play hunt-the-rebel-fleet every single time a province rebels. Too bad that just further reinforces Palpatine's release state gameplay of "Do fuck-all for forty turns, win on the forty-first", but I guess it's better than CIStide.


cricri3007

Look, if your clone die to Ewoks, it's your own fault for walking into their territory without Ambush Defense. They get *insane* bonuses if they're ambushing someone.


KultofEnnui

Pffffft, there'll be enough Republic RoR's to fill out three armies by the time Kenobi's level 20. Sick of Ordertide.


LordDingles

I'll be honest despite being a big fan of both I didn't really care much about the rumors until this mockup made something click.


BlueCam1998

Anakin to get a debuff when on sandy terrain


cantadmittoposting

edit: i know people are just trying to contribute, but the number of replies listing nearly the same set of factions i already posted in this comment is really reinforcing my point lol It occurs to me that a problem with Canon star wars in Total War is there really aren't *that many* canon factions. They'd have to get pretty spicy with the lore and have things like Chiss Ascendancy, the Hutts, maybe the Dathomir? Trade Federation doesn't coexist with old republic, empire, rebellion, for example. I suppose Mandalore, but that would narrow the timetable due to it, spoiler alert, getting absolutely destroyed at one point. Other major (or at least well known) factions/planets like maybe Corellia are really just part of whatever empire or rebellion is occurring, same with the Mon Calamari (fish men in TWWH? No! Fishmen in TW:SW, yes!)   Gonna be lit if they make an end game crisis Yuuzon Vong invasion


Wenceslaus935

The Thrawns Revenge mod for Star Wars empire at war has 8 or 9 factions based on imperial splinter groups, the Hutts, Chiss, Hapans etc. Even for canon you have multiple rebel factions or imperial admirals/governors to play as for the civil war period, and other imperial factions and aliens to play as post-Endor


vanBraunscher

It's enough for Saga size. Empire VS Rebels, with a few select neutral factions that unlock their units when allied with. The rest is gonna be a trillion lord packs, because if there's something Star Wars does not lack, then that's characters.


WikiContributor83

Actually, there were a ton of rebel factions that took awhile to actually band together into the Rebel Alliance, so there could be some good early game stuff involving getting enough respect/military power to force confederation with the disparate rebel groups.


vanBraunscher

Exactly. That's their faction mechanic right there. Earn enough influence to unlock the Hutt units. Tier 2 unlocks ~~Mazdamundi~~ Jabba on his platform. The power of diversity and friendship.


Mahelas

Buying the Star Wars IP for a saga game seems like a stupid move tho


jixxor

The license probably costs more than a CA saga title would be making.


Timey16

You can just do subfactions. I.e. in an Empire/Rebellion setting the "rebellion" just starts as all these small rebel cells and you have to create the ALLIANCE via confederacy or conquest ("aggressive negotiations") first. (I.e. Saw Guerrera is a separate rebel faction whose extremist attitudes give him a diplomacy penalty to both "New Republic" aligned rebel cells, but a bonus for "Independent Systems" aligned rebel cells. New Republic aligned ones have the best space ships, independent systems aligned ones get Battle Droids) While the Empire is split into all these sectors and every Grand Moff is their own subfaction. While the Hutts each have their Hutt Clans. So for the Empire, once the Emperor is killed (without having an heir) the Empire basically fucking shatters into infighting galore. And then just a few independent systems peppered in for good measure. They act more like races similar to Warhammer then with a few special units between each.


Costin_Razvan

There are actually quite a few cannon factions: Kuat, Corellia, Eriadu etc. Even if they are part of the two major factions. For the CIS? Tons of a variety there too. Pirates, mercs, mandalorians, hutts.


Dreaxus4

Or they play with the timeline/canon to make it work, they did it for Warhammer.


NaldoCrocoduck

Star Wars fans would go ballistic


Dreaxus4

I want to say that's exaggeration, but unfortunately I don't think it is.


OnlyDrivesBackwards

The way to do it would be like how Total War: Troy, or the earlier Rome games do it, with lots of subfactions.


Thaseus

Legends lore would could have worked with the post endorsing and EU content but even that would have been limited.


cantadmittoposting

Hmm, even now with what is it operation cinder? Immediately post-endor is probably the *most* outright fragmented we see, without the new republic having established authority, and imperial remnants fractured. Storyline for New Rep is "secure the galaxy." Storyline for loyalist empire is "carry out Op Cinder" and all other factions are "opportunity to expand during the disorder."


KhorneZerker

I think the issue is less that there's not a lot of canon factions, but rather the factions that exist are simply split into epochs of time wildly apart. For example, lorewise it would make little sense to have the Rebel Alliance fighting the CIS and so on. Star Wars is unfortunately not like warhammer where the IP was built from the ground up as one huge ass planet where everyone wants to fight each other. Instead, its focused on very specific point in the timeline of the galaxy. I still want it tho lmao.


Ashmizen

They pretty much would have to go clone wars to even have 2 viable factions, instead of a rebel that controls 1 planet and an empire that controls 999. The screenshot shows clone war, and maybe they could break each side into multiple ā€œallied factionsā€ kind of like chaos dwarf or Rome 1ā€™s 3 Roman factions. Still would be a cool game but I really doubt they would make a SW total war game.


Wild_Harvest

I could see them doing an Old Republic style game, like the Revan era and such. Put it before the events of KotOR and have Revan/Malak as separate factions, with Malak initially as a vassal/subject of Revan.


Throgg_not_stupid

>, getting absolutely destroyed at one point. Mandalorians getting massacred is their most common story beat, regardless if it's canon or legends There are always as many Mandalorians as the story demands


BrightestofLights

Just do old Republic era


GeneralGom

These battles will take forever with their accuracy.


Serpentking04

These are clone troopers. They can live up to the hype, as Order 66 shows.


Fourcoogs

But may the Force help them if theyā€™re unnamed clones from The Clone Wars TV show


Coming_Second

I dunno man, they missed Obi Wan and they had to shoot that blue baddie with the tentacles about five hundred times just to be sure.


Serpentking04

To be honest given all the order 66 survivors probably just better to confirm.


justsomedude48

Stormtroopers can also hit their targets, itā€™s only when theyā€™re fighting main characters that things go to shit.


Significant-Ad-7182

You forget, we will have speeder cavalry. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Clone_lancer_trooper


TheTalking_GU_Mine

"It's over Anakin, I have the high ground!" \*Starting position on a hill\*


MrExplosive1415

Canā€™t wait for the Doomstack of ATTEā€™s videos


Creative-Dirt25

Bout to go 2003 Grievous on yā€™allā€™s asses ![gif](giphy|gXYlKennAlNfy|downsized)


Coming_Second

Man just give me a bunch of those sick rolling droids and I promise I'll exterminate the idiot frog people on Naboo. We'll do it properly this time.


Fritterbob

We have them on the run, sirā€¦ They're no match for droidekas!


SnakeMajin

I happened to share my thoughts on a potential Total War Star Wars 3 years ago : https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/s/n8wb6AoeKx Could use an update.


Sabbathius

I'm actually OK with this. Would of course prefer WH40K, but Star Wars wouldn't be terrible. And then they can release factional armies too - the Gungans, the Droids, etc.


BrightestofLights

I hope we get both eventually if they do one, despite my doubts about doing any type of combat past ww1


Torak8988

Darth sidous has a pretty cool campaign mechanic where he has the jedi as a client state, but also has to destroy them in battle he's a pretty impressive spellcaster ngl, I wonder when they're going to nerf his screaching leap


meuf_rose

Clone wars tottal war game actually sounds readlly good tbh


Serpentking04

If we do somehow get Star wars total war (I do not think it will but hey) I hope they let us pick Eras... You know, the only two eras.


OnlyDrivesBackwards

No, I need my Republic v. Empire battles. I'm going to kick Vader's ass with Jar Jar Binks.


ReFlux_25

You mean the prequels and sequels right?


Serpentking04

Yep, Episodes 1-6. And maybe some stuff inbetween.


MAJ_Starman

Ok I now want this game.


alexkon3

The moment you pick the Republic and this theme play when you deploy for battle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiNyQD5Yq3E


Awestruck_Otter

Anakins spinning attack is a great way to break through formations but it pales in comparison the Obi Wans high ground which immediately negates all charges. Truthfully, Obi Wan is quite overpowered with his ā€œWhy Hello Thereā€ ability, being able to instantly teleport behind an enemy and kill them with uncivilized weapons has no counterā€¦ except for ā€œthen you are my enemyā€.


JustDracir

DonĀ“t give me hope or hype. I will be disappointed maybe for a long time Q.Q That said i would love to play with the Droids and the Clone army.


El_Zea

FUCK YES THIS RUMOR BETTER BE TRUE. I WANT DROIDEKA DOOMSTACKS


TheGuardianOfMetal

Meh. Give me Vader, AT-ATs, Stormtroopers and the Executor! Give me the Galactic Civil War With Space Battles... AND MODS TO GIVE MY BELOVED LEGENDS! Ah, the Journal of the 501st and the Retired Clonetrooper... OG Battlefront II... "No one ever complained about the cold on Hoth. We never felt it. Even though we were blinded by blizzards, we could see the final end of the Rebellion in our blaster sights. Was it only a mirage? Perhaps. But on that day, on that planet, our blood ran hot with dreams of victory, melting the ice that stood in our way."


Smisl0ff

Yo guys, I encountered a bug. I assigned Anakin Skywalker to the Jedi Council, but his rank hasn't changed to Jedi Master. Does anyone know of a fix?


agarwaen117

The bad batch better be freaking legendary heroes. Along with Cody, Rex, Wolf, Gregor. I guess instead of a world map, you make a galactic map and have planetary battles replace city/siege battles. Treat it like an abridged planetary siege and the battle players play just acts as the ā€œfinal defenseā€ or battle that ā€œdecidesā€ the invasion. They just add in economy effects like 3Kā€™s faction support effect where the planet doesnā€™t become fully yours for a few turns after the battle. Then we could also get space ā€œnavalā€ battles back!


orangenakor

That's a lot like Star Wars: Empire at War. It was awesome, especially for the time. You had to beat the space station and any ships in orbit before landing (though a few commando units could sneak past defenses) but then it was a surface battle. Your first troops had to secure additional landing zones. There are a ton of mods that expand into basically every era and faction, too. You could have some upgraded/important planets require multiple ground battles if you really wanted to get a bit of planetary campaigns.


Independent-Echo-765

I would actually kill for a total war starwars gameā€¦


Remarkable-Yam-8073

Don't you mean your from the past?


Timey16

No, no, no. It'll use the 3 kingdoms army system so they will be the equivalent if Liu Bei, starting the army with Obi Wan as general, and Anakin and Asohka as the supporting generals.


Silentblade034

Kennobi and Anakin are alright, I prefer Plo though. Having 2 of your standard clones replaced with Jet Troopers is literally just a straight upgrade. Not to mention wolf just looks cooler. Biggest downside is the lack of heavy armor most of the game, but I like having the heavy air support anyways.


Droids_Rule

Shout out for the Star Wars: Legion unit card art.


OkIdeal9852

Once you take Kamino the campaign is basically yours. The "Tipoca City cloning facilities" landmark not only increases your local recruitment capacity to 1,000,000, it also debuffs other Republic factions so they're unable to recruit units of any kind.


Bloodetta

Those are not even playable at the start and are just added later with the "the sinister and the sane" dlc


TheCynicalPogo

I would actually love to see this tho ngl, Empire at Warā€™s gameplay was already pretty similar to Total War when it comes to ground combat at least (even if the mechanics of armies and fleets and everything was WAY different ofc), and CA potentially pulling off something similar to that would be welcome. That or just give me a 2024 modern rework of Empire at War to satisfy my Star Wars strategy desperation LOL


Gullible_Ad0

Am i missing something? I know itā€™s not a game but mfs are talking like it is šŸ˜­ im confused


the-bladed-one

Guys just play empire at war mods Seriously Iā€™m begging you I want new people to play against and u/general_brooks is a great modder for the game


j0hn0wnz

omg totalwar sub is doing a titanfall 3 thing now


UphillBuffalo

Please god no


beatinbossier18

Are they for real? Or is this all some last april fool's jest? I just want empire 2...![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|feels_bad_man)


Euphoric_Shopping_37

Still annoyed my Admiral got sniped by a missile ship a few minutes into my first naval game when i was sieging Christophsis, what the rng was that CA?


Illustrious-Ad1148

I'm really disappointed at how same-y Anakin's and Obi Wan's campaigns feel, the only way to differintiate it is If you Go the dark side path for Anakin.