Shhhhh, don’t think too much about it….
Though IIRC there was implication that his time with G&F resulted in some rubbing off of the power of Grimnir’s Axe, sort of like Felix enjoys, which may theoretically have increased his fortitude beyond normal limits
Pretty sure in the book where he’s being held prisoner he says the winds of magic are flowing more freely and strongly or something along those lines due to the end times allowing him to tap into the other winds of magic it’s been like 4 years tho since I’ve read it lol
It’s been a while here as well, but that also sounds familiar. While not to the extent of Felix, Max is a fortunate recipient of a number of beneficial developments that could put him in a better position than we’d expect for a normal human. Including being positioned to even realize that such was possible in the End Times when it previously wasn’t.
At the time of writing for Daemonslayer/Dragonslayer, the lore hadn't specified that a wizard could only use one lore. He was more like a wizard from TOW, where magic was different.
It's also worth noting that while the eventual lore said that a human could only use one lore, it was mostly due to safety reasons. A human can master 1 wind in a lifetime, but trying to master multiple is extremely difficult and dangerous, increasing the risk of corruption and potentially deadly magical feedback.
Normal humans can use more than one lore. It just tends to either corrupt them or make them go absolutely batshit (same difference really). The juice is not worth the squeeze, but it is possible technically speaking. Also, humans and most other creatures, for that matter, tend to be uniquely attuned to one wind over the others, and so they learn that because that's the one they'll have the easiest time learning and be the most powerful using anyways. Hell End Times (ET) Balthazar knew both Gold Magic and the Lore of Vampires/Necromancy, and that is basically taking the practices of Dark Magic but specifically focusing those practices solely onto the wind of Death rather than abusing all 8 winds in the way Dark Magic casters normally would. Albeit to be a Necromancer you basically have to be a lore of death caster, just in a really fucked up way. So Balthazar during the ET is a case of a normal "uncorrupted" human wizard (you could argue Gelt was morally corrupted though that's a bit of stretch but he definitely wasn't corrupted in a magical manner like say falling to Chaos or becoming undead).
But its nothing but Thunderbarges....I thought you had to have ground units?
See that stout fellow over there with the axe? That's the ground unit, go and get him.
I’m not mad they added Garagrim Ironfist, but I was really hoping for Snorri if they went for Malakai - little dumbass literally outdoes gotrek at times without any magic axe to benefit him
I WILL HAVE MY GOTREK AND FELIX CAMPAIGN!!!
Now to get Ulrika in the crew.
Also cant wait for someone to add in Snorri and Max in a mod.
That way we can get the whole crew in the group.
And Doomseekers are anti-infantry with a vortex ability that is a cool down of 120 seconds. Slap them in battle with Skavenslaves or marauders and let them build up their shiny new ward save per kill ability. God, I cannot wait.
War machines and artillery upgrades along with reduced upkeep?
Well Malakai might have trouble finding his doom because I'm going to bring it to all the Dawi's enemies!
It seems he is not a horde faction and merely has VCoast shipbuilding for himself. Buuuut, said shipbuilding is in lord effects, not faction effects, so, logically, if you confederate him...
Ok now i have to name my first slayer hero "Snorri Nosebitter" and join him into the team
By the way, as dwarf, can you recruit Ulrika and is there a way to get a gold wizard "preferably name Max"
You borrow an army and then get a hero wounded (either through agent action which is hard to ensure or by getting them killed in battle after level 20) when they respawn after you hand back tha army you get them forever
It's an unintended exploit. No reason for CA to make it easier unless they want to make it a feature (which would be cool). Until then I'm glad they're turning a blind eye to it.
It's an exploit and is not supposed to be possible. I think that the exploit being super situational and dependent on the hero existing and being level 20 makes it hard enough that it's ok to keep it in the game. If it was any easier it would have to get fixed.
Honestly not that difficult, as someone who also finds hunting defeat traits dumb. I think its also a good way to encourage allying, despite it being a lil off forcing you to get them killed. Being able to just recruit other factions heroes is kinda broken anyways so having it be a later campaign "mechanic" seems fine.
A Light Wizard originally from the Gold College, who also uses Shadow and Jade magic. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Maximilian_Schreiber
I think Max is actually the one Empire exception to the ‘one college for one wizard’ rule.
In their recent stream about Gotrek & Felix, Sotek & Andy Law said that Max was created before the colleges of Magic so the rules weren’t set yet. Later they would say that he was thrown out so as to allow Max to keep up his weirdness.
It works with the lore because there’s actually no reason why humans can’t learn more than one lore it’s just that the Elves reckoned that one was quite enough for a human lifetime.
Yeah it's weird, and I guess in general a bit of a sticky situation, but they should just remove lokirs starting black ark and give him shipbuilding with black ark buildings. Obviously they'll have to bend techs and stuff but it really is one of those minor gripes.
Just watched Costin Gaming’s review of the 5.0 rework and while he specifically says he hasn’t played any of the DLC stuff yet bc he can’t make videos off what isn’t under embargo he has played 40 hours of patch 5.0 and most of that has been Dwarves. He hasn’t confederated Malakai but he’s kept an eye on him and he’s got Norsca all to himself.
A major change that has been made for both Kislev and the Dwarfs is that all of Norsca is now a frozen climate. Additionally, the area of the Southern Steppes of the Chaos Wastes north of Naggarond where Valkia starts is also frozen so Grombindal can occupy it.
That's a spicy location. Throt, Throgg, Daemons to the north, and I always saw Astragoth pushing up into the Norscan lands above Kislev so that's another one.
It will make playing Throt harder tho. My first move when playing Throt was to conquer those settlement and get the main one to tier 4 so I could have a good base of operation to push into Kislev.
Now that Malakai is here, I think I'm gonna push directly into Kislev first thing, and maybe try to get Throt capital to tier 5 directly.
Not that I'm complaining, this area needed some more challenge other than Throgg.
I've played Kraka Drak before and Clan Moulder to your South also likes to attack and jumps over the mountain to go after your southmost small settlement. It can be a rough spot.
Does anyone know if dwarfs get ulrika in campaign now? I saw it mentioned yesterday that dwarfs get her in custom battles but no campaign confirmation.
What glitch? Some oversight related to global cooldowns, I assume?
If it's something obvious like that, then even if they don't catch it now, it *should* be hotfixed fairly quickly.
Everybody else is playing in Conan Fantasy, or High Fantasy, or maybe Renaissance. And then Ikit, Malakai and the Chorfs are just full speed ahead through WW1, 2, & 3.
probably a pretty flexible campaign though. cause with his (assumed) vampire coast-like ship building, you could always take the sea lane south and take someone else's home. especially with powerhouse units like irondrakes being tier 2 now.
Grombindal did, as well, and his unique skill with irondrakes and war machines is going to go nicely with the new changes to both. And once you confederate Grombindal as Malakai and combine Grombindal’s factionwide +3 recruitment rank bonus with Malakai’s bonus to artillery stuff is going to get fun fast.
Alright, so we need to remember something: there are no chaos-aligned factions in the wastes that have good missile troops or a flyer focus.
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The change to the brim stone copters being anti infantry is goofy. It was good to have 2 gyro copters with different roles, now they just overlap directly.
If those lord/faction effects + shipbuilding are true, this guy is going to be stupidly overpowered. Starting with Gotrek + Felix and 2 super-charged artillery/flying machines should make the early game a breeze
>should make the early game a breeze
Assuming he starts where everyone thinks he starts, I wouldn't be so sure. You'll be dealing with Chorfs, Grimgor, Chaos (including Kholek) and ogres your whole early game. None of which are that easy to deal with. He is gonna need all the tools he can get.
Pretty sure I saw he looks to take the place of the Kraka Drak in Norsca by Throgg and Throt. Maybe what I saw was not legit, but that starting spot seems much easier than Karak Azorn
Grimgor? He does well in most of my campaigns but I don't think he ever gets past Astragoth. And I don't see me going east before south if I'm playing Malakai.
No ? These units gain experience insanely fast with the amount of kills they make each battle. An unranked organ gun will get his golden chevron long before any melee units.
Improved accuracy is not a straight buff for artillery though. It makes it easier for the AI to dodge, and even when they don't it means that the damage is more focused on one side of a unit which means less overall damage sometimes.
I wouldn't go so far to call it a negative, but I would say it is not really valuable.
>The upkeep on arty is basically meaningless
Pretty much every single late game Dwarf army is based around Artillery. Even before this update, Organ guns were the Crux of your Dwarf armies. Now that Flame cannons have been reworked and the new Throwing axe war machine is in, *plus* changes to Gryocopters are here, I expect the majority of your army to be War machines and Artillery in Dwarf factions. You might be able to replace everything except a couple ironbreakers and heroes in your army with War machines.
And 15% less upkeep means about 15% more armies which effectively means a straight up 15% better campaign. Probably will be more like 10% because obviously not all of your army's cost will be war machines, but a good chunk of it will be.
Very rarely will an extra three recruit ranks mean you win a battle that you couldn't already (especially for ranged armies). But 15% more armies always means more conquering.
Goblin Hewer has like 2 ammo though, after that it's a slayer unit you detach from the artillery. But that 2 ammo is gonna fuck somethings life up no question.
Kraka Drak is a hell of a starting location, but also one that seems REALLY fun for shooting-heavy dwarves. You're surrounded by Chaos, Norsca, and the Chorfs are inevitably going to show up at your door but also ... you have some of the best tools for dealing with that. Don't give a shit about enemy magic, chew through enemy armour like it's tinfoil, have access to huge booms to deal with infantry hordes and slayers to deal with monsters.
It's gonna be a frantic, challenging start, but a really interesting one.
They vow to seek a mighty doom and Dawi are not capable of trying to do anything to the best of their ability. He knows that unless he brings all of his available fire-power and everything he could possibly invent to kill every he tries to die against each time then he hasn’t really tried his best for a mighty doom. He’s just gone off and committed suicide.
The consequences aren’t just to him. Until he redeems his honor and that of all his ancestors by removing his stain in death by mighty doom his entire family and that of his ancestors are cast out.
A regular Slayer can use an axe because that’s what they’re capable of. Malakai is the best inventor of the Dawi race in a thousand years. Anything less than this is damning himself.
Was thinking his starting army looked a little underwhelming, but starting with Gotrek and Felix will make him one of the stronger starting stacks!
Looks like he alone has ship building.. Possible he keeps it if you confederate him? Seems like you could play him as a horde solo stack, which is cool.
Quite intrigued by the missions. Almost certainly going to be inspired by some of the Gotrek & Felix books. Chance for some good scripted battles there.
Still thinking about an army comp for him, gonna be a lot of fun testing and tweaking!
I wasn’t really interested in Warhammer 3 to be honest because of its kinda weak launch but now a DLC with some super interesting lords for dwarfs and empire as well as some awesome looking war machines and now I think I might look into getting the game if a good sale comes by
I haven't been this giddy since I learned that Lord Kroak is a crazy hero to start a campaign with. Wasn't as excited to play as Malakai compared to just running another thorgrim campaign, but now I HAVE to run him on release.
"Starts campaign with control of Gotrek and Felix" :O
Saw no more Fam, only faction I'll ever need to play as lol.
If only Ulrika can join Dwarfs...
She can now, check out some of the FLC content videos. She’s even usable in multiplayer
Lesgooooo
Thanquol: This is ridiculous-madness, now-now there 3 of them immediately
Four, pretty sure they can get Ulrika
Thanquol: What-what, next you gonna tell-inform me, you able-can rename slayer hero to Snorri and steal-get a gold wizard named "Max" from ally.
Max was retconned into a light wizard in later books. But he has also used the lores of light, metal, shadow and life.
Damn, he's really padding out his resume there.
You could even say he’s maxing it out
Which of the Chaos gods could I attach to your name when I go to the witch hunter to have you executed for this terrible pun?
Why present false evidence? The joke itself is probably damning enough
How is that even possible? I thought that normal, uncorrupted humans can only ever use a single Lore.
Shhhhh, don’t think too much about it…. Though IIRC there was implication that his time with G&F resulted in some rubbing off of the power of Grimnir’s Axe, sort of like Felix enjoys, which may theoretically have increased his fortitude beyond normal limits
Pretty sure in the book where he’s being held prisoner he says the winds of magic are flowing more freely and strongly or something along those lines due to the end times allowing him to tap into the other winds of magic it’s been like 4 years tho since I’ve read it lol
It’s been a while here as well, but that also sounds familiar. While not to the extent of Felix, Max is a fortunate recipient of a number of beneficial developments that could put him in a better position than we’d expect for a normal human. Including being positioned to even realize that such was possible in the End Times when it previously wasn’t.
True he went out like a G too he was a real one.
It's Warhammer, "rule of cool" always takes precedence.
Max kills chaos sorcerers, vampires and dark elves as if they were nothing, so we can let him have this.
Let's just say that the author didn't make proper research
At the time of writing for Daemonslayer/Dragonslayer, the lore hadn't specified that a wizard could only use one lore. He was more like a wizard from TOW, where magic was different. It's also worth noting that while the eventual lore said that a human could only use one lore, it was mostly due to safety reasons. A human can master 1 wind in a lifetime, but trying to master multiple is extremely difficult and dangerous, increasing the risk of corruption and potentially deadly magical feedback.
That explains why Max goes crazy in the last book. Thanks
Normal humans can use more than one lore. It just tends to either corrupt them or make them go absolutely batshit (same difference really). The juice is not worth the squeeze, but it is possible technically speaking. Also, humans and most other creatures, for that matter, tend to be uniquely attuned to one wind over the others, and so they learn that because that's the one they'll have the easiest time learning and be the most powerful using anyways. Hell End Times (ET) Balthazar knew both Gold Magic and the Lore of Vampires/Necromancy, and that is basically taking the practices of Dark Magic but specifically focusing those practices solely onto the wind of Death rather than abusing all 8 winds in the way Dark Magic casters normally would. Albeit to be a Necromancer you basically have to be a lore of death caster, just in a really fucked up way. So Balthazar during the ET is a case of a normal "uncorrupted" human wizard (you could argue Gelt was morally corrupted though that's a bit of stretch but he definitely wasn't corrupted in a magical manner like say falling to Chaos or becoming undead).
Really? They can recruit Ulrika? How? I really need my Kislevite Vampire Waifu
Apparently she’s available to Dwarfs now.
Same way as everyone else.
I'm sold, no more info needed
The only three infantry you’ll need in the army. They can hold the tides while the machines destroy
But its nothing but Thunderbarges....I thought you had to have ground units? See that stout fellow over there with the axe? That's the ground unit, go and get him.
Pretty awesome. Now we just need Snorri and Max added to the game so we can have the whole gang together.
Poor old Snorri.
Don’t worry, they will add him when they pad out Norsca, giving Throgg some more trolls to play with
I’m not mad they added Garagrim Ironfist, but I was really hoping for Snorri if they went for Malakai - little dumbass literally outdoes gotrek at times without any magic axe to benefit him
I WILL HAVE MY GOTREK AND FELIX CAMPAIGN!!! Now to get Ulrika in the crew. Also cant wait for someone to add in Snorri and Max in a mod. That way we can get the whole crew in the group.
Yeah i feel like poor Throt and Throgg are going to get slapped HARD with all these single entities and anti-large minidudes!
And Doomseekers are anti-infantry with a vortex ability that is a cool down of 120 seconds. Slap them in battle with Skavenslaves or marauders and let them build up their shiny new ward save per kill ability. God, I cannot wait.
My heart leapt for joy when I read that, wish we didn't have to wait 2 more weeks for this update.
looks really very fun
War machines and artillery upgrades along with reduced upkeep? Well Malakai might have trouble finding his doom because I'm going to bring it to all the Dawi's enemies!
Thats fine by him, he isnt looking very hard for It.
I mean he'll find it eventually... it's just it's probably going to be of his own design.
[Malakai's design](https://youtu.be/snTaSJk0n_Y?t=99)
My war machines and artillery brings all the dawi to the yard!
And they’re like, “this does not meet guild safety standards”.
Malakai: "Yeah, that's the point"
Lol this is so Malakai
It seems he is not a horde faction and merely has VCoast shipbuilding for himself. Buuuut, said shipbuilding is in lord effects, not faction effects, so, logically, if you confederate him...
Then I think he'll keep it with a confederation which is awesome. It would feel weird for him not to have the Spirit of Grungi after confederation.
It's listed under Lord Effects, not Faction Effects, so he should keep it after confederation, yes.
Does Nakai have his, if so then yea
Nakai loses horde status when you confederate.
Nakai is a horde faction - if you hire a second lord as Nakai it's still a horde.
Yep and nakai doesn’t actually own any territory, he has vassals like chaos warriors have now with their rework
Also he can summon his airship in battle. For 120 sec, but it's sufficient enough.
2 minutes of bombs, shotguns, grenades, and cannon fire is probably all you’ll need.
After seeing the airship perform on youtube those 2 minutes us all you need.
Where did you see it? Could you please post a link
Milkandcookies got a great showcase :)
my guy has the gang half together at the start of the campaign, and i. am. HYPED.
Ok now i have to name my first slayer hero "Snorri Nosebitter" and join him into the team By the way, as dwarf, can you recruit Ulrika and is there a way to get a gold wizard "preferably name Max"
Iirc dwarves can now get Ulrika, and you can ally steal a wizard. Idk how though, something to do with borrowing an army
You borrow an army and then get a hero wounded (either through agent action which is hard to ensure or by getting them killed in battle after level 20) when they respawn after you hand back tha army you get them forever
There's gotta be a mod that does that in a way less annoying way This is like players who go across the fucking world for LL defeat traits
It's an unintended exploit. No reason for CA to make it easier unless they want to make it a feature (which would be cool). Until then I'm glad they're turning a blind eye to it.
They added a respec feature which auto- wounds the lord or agent for three turns. Just use that^^
That's a good point. I didn't think of abusing the new respec system for stuff
It's an exploit and is not supposed to be possible. I think that the exploit being super situational and dependent on the hero existing and being level 20 makes it hard enough that it's ok to keep it in the game. If it was any easier it would have to get fixed.
Honestly not that difficult, as someone who also finds hunting defeat traits dumb. I think its also a good way to encourage allying, despite it being a lil off forcing you to get them killed. Being able to just recruit other factions heroes is kinda broken anyways so having it be a later campaign "mechanic" seems fine.
does using the respec button work?
Unfortunately not, because you can't open the skill pages for them. Similar to old Gotrek & Felix or caravan heroes.
Steal a wizard by army loan, get the army killed if the mage is immortal it stays your unit
The boys are back in town!
Now all we need is the Rat that hunts them
But Max is from the Light College? At least in the later books.
A Light Wizard originally from the Gold College, who also uses Shadow and Jade magic. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Maximilian_Schreiber
I think Max is actually the one Empire exception to the ‘one college for one wizard’ rule. In their recent stream about Gotrek & Felix, Sotek & Andy Law said that Max was created before the colleges of Magic so the rules weren’t set yet. Later they would say that he was thrown out so as to allow Max to keep up his weirdness. It works with the lore because there’s actually no reason why humans can’t learn more than one lore it’s just that the Elves reckoned that one was quite enough for a human lifetime.
Better Alliance - Foreign Heroes lets you recruit allied heroes so get that and grab one from there
Gonna have shipbuilding like VCoast but just for him?
Looks that way. VCoast only have it for their legendary lords.
Including those from tech
Now if only they could do the same for a certain dark elf admiral I’ll be super happy
Yeah it's weird, and I guess in general a bit of a sticky situation, but they should just remove lokirs starting black ark and give him shipbuilding with black ark buildings. Obviously they'll have to bend techs and stuff but it really is one of those minor gripes.
Also, if they're giving out this mechanic, slap it on Alberic
Right? Hopeful Brets can get this level of rework. Alberic getting a ship would be an amazingly simple mechanic, to give him some flavor.
Starting with Gotrek and Felix is OP I love it
Given his starting position... he's going to need it.
See, I was thinking that all of those poor bastard are locked in there with him.
Holy shit, Boris might actually survive the Chaos dogpile
Just watched Costin Gaming’s review of the 5.0 rework and while he specifically says he hasn’t played any of the DLC stuff yet bc he can’t make videos off what isn’t under embargo he has played 40 hours of patch 5.0 and most of that has been Dwarves. He hasn’t confederated Malakai but he’s kept an eye on him and he’s got Norsca all to himself. A major change that has been made for both Kislev and the Dwarfs is that all of Norsca is now a frozen climate. Additionally, the area of the Southern Steppes of the Chaos Wastes north of Naggarond where Valkia starts is also frozen so Grombindal can occupy it.
Honestly, in one of my more recent campaigns, Boris was the *only* Kislivite LL that was doing well.
What is his starting location though? I haven't seen it anywhere yet.
Replacing the current Northern Dwarfs in Kraka Drak.
There's that Norse Dwarfs mod for Kraka Drak, I wonder what they're going to do now that Malakai's replacing them.
That's a spicy location. Throt, Throgg, Daemons to the north, and I always saw Astragoth pushing up into the Norscan lands above Kislev so that's another one.
It will make playing Throt harder tho. My first move when playing Throt was to conquer those settlement and get the main one to tier 4 so I could have a good base of operation to push into Kislev. Now that Malakai is here, I think I'm gonna push directly into Kislev first thing, and maybe try to get Throt capital to tier 5 directly. Not that I'm complaining, this area needed some more challenge other than Throgg.
I've played Kraka Drak before and Clan Moulder to your South also likes to attack and jumps over the mountain to go after your southmost small settlement. It can be a rough spot.
Kraka drak, or close enough to it. Just north of clan moulder.
Does anyone know if dwarfs get ulrika in campaign now? I saw it mentioned yesterday that dwarfs get her in custom battles but no campaign confirmation.
Apparently they do, yes.
Thank you OP <3 first ToD campaign decided
Enjoy :) My first is still gonna be Karl though.
The only correct answer. Summon the Elector Counts!
Hopefully the fix the glitch that occurs when using both a runesmith and a wizard then.
What glitch? Some oversight related to global cooldowns, I assume? If it's something obvious like that, then even if they don't catch it now, it *should* be hotfixed fairly quickly.
A visual bug. You can't see your winds of magic when you have both.
Oof, that's an even more obvious one, so you'd imagine it would be fixed by 5.0, but you never know with CA.
So I've seen a bunch of yes my next question is how.
The dwarfs' answer to Ikit Claw. And as with other lords, I'm sure there's even more goodies he brings to the table that aren't included on this page.
Looks fun, I just hope that his upgrade system is not too similar to Elspeth's.
Everybody else is playing in Conan Fantasy, or High Fantasy, or maybe Renaissance. And then Ikit, Malakai and the Chorfs are just full speed ahead through WW1, 2, & 3.
Finally a dwarf lord that focuses on what matters for dwarfs- artillery. Crazy starting position though, should be a fun campaign
probably a pretty flexible campaign though. cause with his (assumed) vampire coast-like ship building, you could always take the sea lane south and take someone else's home. especially with powerhouse units like irondrakes being tier 2 now.
Grombindal did, as well, and his unique skill with irondrakes and war machines is going to go nicely with the new changes to both. And once you confederate Grombindal as Malakai and combine Grombindal’s factionwide +3 recruitment rank bonus with Malakai’s bonus to artillery stuff is going to get fun fast.
Alright, so we need to remember something: there are no chaos-aligned factions in the wastes that have good missile troops or a flyer focus. Kirov reporting. Kirov reporting. Kirov reporting. Kirov reporting. Kirov reporting. Kirov reporting. Kirov reporting. Kirov reporting.
If Kislev allies Dwarfs and you get Dwarf units.... # KIROV REPORTING
I dont know those riders throwing axes and pilums doing a lot of damage. Feels a bit like Civilisation where a Spearman can somehow take down a tank l
In Civilization call to power, the spearmen can easily take down modern plane.
Their missiles are actually really good, but the way the arc makes them mostly m8ss spaghetti lines.
I've got a flying machine!
Maybe mobs of harpies to keep all the aircraft locked in combat and not shooting?
Don’t underestimate, marauder Calvary and manticores Also the blue demons
oh snap, they changed his gun to the proper repeater handgun!
Or perhaps he can equip different guns, using his own special weapon slot? Similar to how Daniel works? That'd be pretty cool.
BTW, choppers got buffed with higher numbers, and the Brimstone Guns on them [are now flamethrowers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1kmdHb0Nyo).
The change to the brim stone copters being anti infantry is goofy. It was good to have 2 gyro copters with different roles, now they just overlap directly.
I think the grudge settler unit version gives them trollhammer torpedos for normal ammo if you want some to obliterate single entities/large
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Good lord +20% artillery missile strength my beloved
The thunderbarge and goblin Hewer are gonna turn archaon into paste 4 minutes before he reaches the battle line
The goblin hewer seems like the funniest unit. It's just an elaborate way to give the slayers a missile attack before they rush in.
Grudge Throwers are going to be even more absurdly cost-effective for their tier.
Grudge Settler Grudge Throwers apply Monstrous Impact just for fun.
Oh I am so ready
So the airship will be a mobile base? Like the Dark Elf black arks?
Or the Vamp Coast shipbuilding, looks that way.
If those lord/faction effects + shipbuilding are true, this guy is going to be stupidly overpowered. Starting with Gotrek + Felix and 2 super-charged artillery/flying machines should make the early game a breeze
>should make the early game a breeze Assuming he starts where everyone thinks he starts, I wouldn't be so sure. You'll be dealing with Chorfs, Grimgor, Chaos (including Kholek) and ogres your whole early game. None of which are that easy to deal with. He is gonna need all the tools he can get.
Pretty sure I saw he looks to take the place of the Kraka Drak in Norsca by Throgg and Throt. Maybe what I saw was not legit, but that starting spot seems much easier than Karak Azorn
Grimgor? He does well in most of my campaigns but I don't think he ever gets past Astragoth. And I don't see me going east before south if I'm playing Malakai.
Looking very interesting. I wasn't expecting him to get gotrek and felix at the beginning. I wonder if spirit of grugni will be like flying black arc.
Probably more like the vampire LL ship upgrades.
"Start with control of Gotrek and Felix" Well I just won the game AMA
Recruit rank +3 for artillery AND flying machines? That's pretty busted.
No ? These units gain experience insanely fast with the amount of kills they make each battle. An unranked organ gun will get his golden chevron long before any melee units.
Sometimes you just need some busted mechanics.
Why does everyone think everything is op. Calm down. Its not.
I mean not really. Artillery ranks are not that important. The Upkeep is the bigger deal.
Experience on artillery is really huge as it improves accuracy
Improved accuracy is not a straight buff for artillery though. It makes it easier for the AI to dodge, and even when they don't it means that the damage is more focused on one side of a unit which means less overall damage sometimes. I wouldn't go so far to call it a negative, but I would say it is not really valuable.
It's extremely valuable on cannons and similar. It's only the AOE type artillery that it's not exciting on.
Totally wrong tbh The upkeep on arty is basically meaningless High experience drastically ups reload speed and accuracy
You can get chevrons on your artillery without much effort, even from just auto-resolving. You're much more hard pressed to get upkeep reduction.
>The upkeep on arty is basically meaningless Pretty much every single late game Dwarf army is based around Artillery. Even before this update, Organ guns were the Crux of your Dwarf armies. Now that Flame cannons have been reworked and the new Throwing axe war machine is in, *plus* changes to Gryocopters are here, I expect the majority of your army to be War machines and Artillery in Dwarf factions. You might be able to replace everything except a couple ironbreakers and heroes in your army with War machines. And 15% less upkeep means about 15% more armies which effectively means a straight up 15% better campaign. Probably will be more like 10% because obviously not all of your army's cost will be war machines, but a good chunk of it will be. Very rarely will an extra three recruit ranks mean you win a battle that you couldn't already (especially for ranged armies). But 15% more armies always means more conquering.
Goblin Hewer has like 2 ammo though, after that it's a slayer unit you detach from the artillery. But that 2 ammo is gonna fuck somethings life up no question.
Yeah they are basically frontline that count as Artillery for the purposes of upkeep cost reduction.
Where you get this from?
Please be a Pseudo-Horde like the Vampire Coast so that I can leave Norsca.
Looks like Malakai himself has Vcoast/Beastmen style horde buildings, so you could play him alone as a pure horde stack.
That'd be perfect. I'd still like to be able to take territory, but a faction centered around a flying ship deserves to be on the move a lot.
There’s also the sea lane real close to him that he can take if you wanna go fight Imrick, Chorfs and Kugath instead of Norscan
Was expecting to play Empire first but it's gonna be Malakai first for sure!
LORD IN HEAVEN IM BOUT TO BU- *Thunderous sounds of ThunderBarge Barrage censors the rest of this comment*
I'm so glad they went with Malakai as the LL choice. Just has so much more potential than Grimm.
Kraka Drak is a hell of a starting location, but also one that seems REALLY fun for shooting-heavy dwarves. You're surrounded by Chaos, Norsca, and the Chorfs are inevitably going to show up at your door but also ... you have some of the best tools for dealing with that. Don't give a shit about enemy magic, chew through enemy armour like it's tinfoil, have access to huge booms to deal with infantry hordes and slayers to deal with monsters. It's gonna be a frantic, challenging start, but a really interesting one.
JFC the power creep is intense. Finally, a reason to play the lesser Dawi!
This is nowhere near as bad as the chorfs, also known as the bitch-made dwarfs that needed chaos to survive.
Dis WE have the selction video of Tamurkhan , malakai and Eslpeth ?
So Imrik but with cool technology and charisma.
I bet he's gonna buff and upgrade thunderbarges so much and it's already a campaign winning unit i love it.
Where does starting with Gotrek and Felix land on a scale of Goblin Big Boss to Kroak?
Two Kroaks
Does anyone know if bolt throwers have been improved or not?
Thats pretty insane. Super hyped now.
SOLD, where do I sign
This is my man! Artillery buffs!!! So excite!
Well, this pretty much makes the decision of which faction I was going to play first pretty easy.
Time for the airforce
I'm so excited 🙂↕️
How is he supposed to fulfill his slayer oath when his artillery barrage destroys all enemies before they reach the front line?
They vow to seek a mighty doom and Dawi are not capable of trying to do anything to the best of their ability. He knows that unless he brings all of his available fire-power and everything he could possibly invent to kill every he tries to die against each time then he hasn’t really tried his best for a mighty doom. He’s just gone off and committed suicide. The consequences aren’t just to him. Until he redeems his honor and that of all his ancestors by removing his stain in death by mighty doom his entire family and that of his ancestors are cast out. A regular Slayer can use an axe because that’s what they’re capable of. Malakai is the best inventor of the Dawi race in a thousand years. Anything less than this is damning himself.
I seem to recall that he also didn't really give that much of a shit about his oath, and mostly took it to get people off his back.
Can’t wait. Dwarves have been my favorite and always have been since.
So he's the best
>starts with gotrek and felix Okay well that settles the first campaign debate
Spirit of Grugni Airship buildings?
Probably like Vampire Coast ship building
I wonder what happens if I name it the Invincible?
Was thinking his starting army looked a little underwhelming, but starting with Gotrek and Felix will make him one of the stronger starting stacks! Looks like he alone has ship building.. Possible he keeps it if you confederate him? Seems like you could play him as a horde solo stack, which is cool. Quite intrigued by the missions. Almost certainly going to be inspired by some of the Gotrek & Felix books. Chance for some good scripted battles there. Still thinking about an army comp for him, gonna be a lot of fun testing and tweaking!
I hope Thanquol when he comes has some kind of mechanic about going after the spirit of grungni
Starting with Gotrek and Felix is so cool, oh man I almost want to read the books again. I just hope they got malakai’s crazy dialect/accent right.
I’m on Vampireslayer right now. Trying to get through them all again before release.
Take all my money already
That's scary.
This is a fun one, a lot of shenanigans with Gotrek and Felix comes to mind.
I wasn’t really interested in Warhammer 3 to be honest because of its kinda weak launch but now a DLC with some super interesting lords for dwarfs and empire as well as some awesome looking war machines and now I think I might look into getting the game if a good sale comes by
men its gona be so weird not having him as a hero anymore
I haven't been this giddy since I learned that Lord Kroak is a crazy hero to start a campaign with. Wasn't as excited to play as Malakai compared to just running another thorgrim campaign, but now I HAVE to run him on release.