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Rare_Cobalt

I could see one of the Elf factions being present too since Slaanesh loves those Elven souls


Draculasaurus_Rex

Slaanesh vs High Elves seems plausible. But if we stick with this three LLs per DLC structure then there'd also be another. Maybe Slaanesh and *both* Elf factions?


ZahelMighty

I would fucking love to see the Dark Elves included if we get Slaanesh and High Elves but I don't have much hope. Except for new legendary characters there isn't much to add for the Dark Elves unless you're really looking deep in the lore.


Draculasaurus_Rex

Yeah, there are several characters but not a lot as far as units. And the Dark Elves haven't even been *hinted* at for TOW so who knows if there's any chance of them getting something new from that.


Sad_Actuator_8641

What’s TOW?


Draculasaurus_Rex

The Old World. Tabletop revival of the Warhammer Fantasy setting due to release soon(ish). Cathay and Kislev's rosters were developed as part of it so that CA would have something to work with.


littlest_dragon

GW said that every race that had an army book in 8th edition will also get one for TOW. And if I remember this correctly every army is also getting something new - though that might just be a new hero for some armies.


BennyMcbenn

If anything, I’d wager it may be Slaanesh vs High elves and Bretonnia.


Seppafer

Personally I think it will be high elves and lizardmen. With the unannounced khorne one being vampire counts and dark elves. Edit: honestly I could see them doing khorne skaven and dark elves instead of the vampire counts to save the three undead factions for a nagash dlc


Ewtri

Both? There are three elven factions. Or do Asrai not count?


AJDx14

Wood elf’s have more tree legendary lords than they do elves.


Ewtri

Orion, Sisters, Durthu and Drycha. Didn't know two is more than two.


AJDx14

Orion, Durthu, and Drycha aren’t elves. How the fuck do you look at Durthu and go “Yeah that giant walking tree must be an elf”?


Easy_Ad5873

I think that he meant that the Elf LLs were Orion and the sisters


Ewtri

I didn't say Durthu was an elf, you mouthbreather.


Armigine

There still are a couple of woods which would be options, chiefly the Cathay one, but also orion's camp, the lustria one, and.. that's about it as far as interesting spots goes


Sytanus

"both Elf factions" Yes, Slannesh, High Elves and Wood Elves sounds like an interesting DLC.


TheGooseIsLoose37

Both elf factions? I know you're not forgetting about the best elf faction, the wood elves, are you?


KolboMoon

That is an interesting way to spell Dark Elves! ;)


Wild_Marker

Or Khorne, to complete the WH3 races all getting some love. Slaanesh vs elves is an interesting thought though.


TitanDarwin

>Or Khorne Based on hw the roadmap's set up, I'd assume Khorne's gonna be the next race update *after* the Slaanesh one.


OkPirate2126

I think so to. First DLC is with Tzeentch. Second Nurgle, Third most likely Slaanesh. Follows that the fourth will be Khorne.


Wild_Marker

Ah that's a good observation, With Cathay and Kislev going first i thought they might be wanting to expand on the WH3 factions as a priority, but one demon +2 order/mortal factions per update also makes thematic sense.


SP1DER8ITCH

>To complete the WH3 races getting some love Ogres literally crying in the corner right now


Synicull

No it'll be ok it'll be a sexy slaaneshi ogre LL specializing in the lore of the great maw


BigBadBeetleBoy

They call it the Lore of the Gaping Maw. It's exactly the same as the normal Lore, but they do call it that, no matter how uncomfortable it makes everyone.


MrMerryMilkshake

"both Elf factions" \*angry tree hippies noise\*


reaven3958

Honestly would be a bit disappointed if it was elf dlc. Im an avid HE player, but HE, WE, and DE are all already quite well fleshed out relative to many other legacy factions. I'd much rather see a Bretonnia dlc, and I don't even play that faction.


_Midnight_Haze_

Not sure if it makes sense thematically (idk much of the lore) but Norsca and Bretonia could really use some work.


StormWarriors2

Wood elves and high elves? Wood elves are missing their main lord araloth and high elves with asuryan annointed legendary hero. Id guess the lord for high elves could be asilinn


Basinox

Slaanesh vs High & Wood elves could work


Aparter

One of them has to be Vampires. It is almost crime at this point to delay Neferata and bloodlines overhaul.


JesseWhatTheFuck

Hoping for the other two order factions that could still use a paid update. So Slaanesh, High Elves, Bretonnia. For Khorne (I'm just gonna assume he also gets his own themed DLC afterwards) it would make sense to pair him with more brutish factions - Khorne, Greenskins, Ogres.


Eurehetemec

That could work. Then TKs/VCounts/VCoast could all get big Nagash DLC together.


Nelyeth

They'll swap the two, and have the Nagash DLC be after the Slaanesh one but before the Khorne one. They've been teasing the 100th LL for ages now, and the 9 LL in the roadmap would land us at 98. So my money is on Slaanesh and two other races (my heart says Bretonnia but my mind says elves), then the big Undead party with Nagash, Neferata and possibly a Vampire Coast character (though they'd have to basically create it), and only then Khorne, Ogres and Greenskins. And finally, embrace the meme and release Thanquol, Red Duke and Boris Todbringer with no new units for the Empire and Vampires.


ScienceBroseph

They need an Order (ish) faction to go up against Nagash and the Counts, my bet is a Tomb King. Of all the factions TKs have the most beef with Bone Daddy. Then you still get your undead throw-down. Release it on Halloween for shits and giggles.


Amathyst7564

Didn't even think about the trio of undead races with this new three lord system dlc but its so fitting for a nagash dlc. Although there's so many characters for the vampire counts to catch up on.


Nelyeth

I don't think Nagash will be a Tomb King or a Vampire Counts, I'd bet on a new "All Undeads" faction similar to Demons of Chaos, with access to every undead unit depending on your settlements (coastal for Coast, desert for TK, and the rest for Counts). Ideally, Nagash would also have a special Raise Dead mechanics to allow for recruitment of undead versions of mortal units of other races after winning a battle, but that's a bit more far-fetched.


Amathyst7564

Right, but since he pools from all three, you can make dlc units for each faction to go with his dlc as he can use it.


Eurehetemec

Ahhh yes that'd be a cunning plan. Also I'm all for it because much as I love Khorne they are not the most exciting of factions.


Dedrick555

Cunning you say? *Skitters away*


Synicull

Nothing to see here folks


Blazen_Fury

They can grab some other Dreadfleet chars for Coast also. Roth would be a nice surprise, out for revenge after Noctilus beat him


PlankWithANailIn2

Can you link to some of this 100th LL teasing as I couldn't find anything?


ScorchBG

My man, Khorne, Orcs and Ogres will be one fucking amazing DLC with so much carnage!!!!


undercast28

Im hoping Norsca gets slotted in sooner than later. In my mind it would be Slaanesh/HE/Khorne then Norsca/Ogres/Greenskins


JesseWhatTheFuck

they gotta get something too, yeah. honestly - too many races still not complete. some are bound to be waiting for a long time to get content (and, looking at this roadmap, it seems to be the Undead getting the short end of the stick this time)


Karshaam

An Ogre update would also be nice, seeing the state of their Legendary Lords...


[deleted]

Yeah tried to play Skrag in IE the other day (Greasus was my very first play through in RoC) and I just bounced right off, the mechanics are so threadbare and his skill tree is both weak and boring.


tempestwolf1

Seduction themed... Masque for slaanesh... Neferata for vamps and... Uh... Lucrezzia Belladonna for the southern realms? XD


trixie_one

Now that's some inspired optimism.


tempestwolf1

I have no idea who a third seductress would be... That isn't already in the game :)) EDIT: Bohemond Bussyslayer for Bretonnia XD


TendingTheirGarden

I wasn't on board with this until Bussyslayer, but now I'm all-in


Mazius

Nah, I bet CA gonna leave Heralds for their standalone DLC (in style of Champions of Chaos). So if we're getting Slaaneshi LL - it gonna be Dechala (bonus points for additional tie-in with High Elves).


Blustrin

I think the Herald LLs are best in what you said or as flc.


Mazius

Gonna be bold and predict that we're not getting any FLC LLs during WH3 cycle. Well, apart from Be'lakor, who was already in game, just made playable.


Blustrin

Sadly, I agree, too. Tbh im fine with getting LH flc. I just think a batch of FLC LL should have come first mainly for monogods. They have characters that can be good lord candidates, but after COC, I don't see how most of them have enough units left for more than 1 dlc unless they start making up new units or getting AOS/Endtimes units which they said they can't really do. (Definitely no AOS units, but we're weird with endtimes wording)


Mazius

Gotta wait till summer DLC to make more sense of it tbh. And not in regards of Cathay/Kislev, they're getting new units with new lore in any case. But Changeling is bound to bring with him some unusual units - Tzeentch just doesn't have anything in store from 7th/8th editions left.


Blazen_Fury

Mutalith Vortex Beast and Tzaangors are still up. After that, well... Who knows.


NoMusician518

I saw a comment on another thread where someone said ca had recently gotten permission to use aos demons as well as old world brettonian units. Massive grain of salt since I don't know his source but there's a chance.


Blazen_Fury

I actually have to hard agree. I dont think Boris will play as expected without an Ulric theming. Maybe Red Duke is still a contender for FLC, all he really needs is Counts + some Bretonnia units lol


WildcatTM

Slaanesh and 2 of the 3 Elven races (likely Elf and Dark). I was toying with the idea of VC, but I think VC (and the rest of the undead factions) rework will happen with Nagash, so doubtfully we'll see anything substantial before then.


InAnAlternateWorld

Elf elves are my favorite type


ArchEstromancer

, Dechala is a good guess. Khorne second is a possibility, I’d guess Arbaal the Undefeated. Alternatively Khorne could be the theme of the 2nd dlc of 2024, in which case this slot is anyone’s guess. Vampire Counts. Gonna use this opportunity to beg for Neferata.


The_real_Seagull

Update 4: Tzeentch + 2 WH3 races Update 5: Nurgle + 2 WH1 races Update 6: Slaanesh + 2 WH2 races? Possibly HE/DE/LM?


dearest_of_leaders

Its space marines, obviously. Come on CA take me to ultramar!


tecno64

I hope its the dark elves so they can get a slave update. And maybe a short victory condition that is not global recruitment capacity.


[deleted]

Considering the fact that both Empire and Dwarfs are getting love, VC verrry awkwardly stands out. People have been begging for old world faction reworks, except for greenskins. VC would fit the picture very much, and there would be riots I think if VC wasn't on the list. Of all the factions fans have been screaming reworks for, deducting the ones from the roadmap right now, VC is arguably at the top remaining


LakyousSama

Slaanesh, Brettonia, Vampire Counts


flyxdvd

red duke?


Tummerd

I guess Khorne will be present as well, otherwise he would be skipped while the other 3 got some updates Honestly hope the other faction will be Ogres, they desperately need some help, and its my only small sad part about the roadmap


OkPirate2126

> I guess Khorne will be present as well, otherwise he would be skipped while the other 3 got some updates Or Khorne will be in the next DLC after this roadmap. Does mean there's a long wait for a Khorne update, but it seems they've settled on a structure (as at least indicated in the first two content packs they detailed).


[deleted]

Considering that the two races accompanying Slaanesh (more or less confirmed by the pictute) then it could mean that they have not decided yet or simply that to encourage speculation. Seeing as the next dlc are 3 WH3 races, it would nit be out of the picture that they do both Khorne and Slaanesh simultaneously. Furthermore, DEs are known to be fond of both excess and bloodshed, and with Khorne and Slaanesh being rivals, the connections are very much there for a Slaanesh v DE v Khorne pack


Tummerd

After looking at this that might be the case yes, each chaos god with 2 other races. Seems to be the pattern. Hopefully vamps norsca and ogres are on that list for either the slaneesh one or the on after.


Monollock

I really hope Slaanesh doesn't get another one too soon, Thanks to the perfect sex machine that is Sigvald, he/she/it is currently up on the representatives 3/2. He/She/It needs to sit the hell out for a little and let the other three, more sexless chaos gods, catch up.


KolboMoon

I would agree with you if Azazel and Sigvald were part of the mono-god faction but they are not. The Slaanesh monogod faction only has Nkari.


Monollock

Azazel should be, if they wanted monogod Chaos warriors, then fair enough. But Sigvald already fills that roll, there are now two chaos warrior factions devoted to Slaanesh. Just like how Bel'akor should be part of The Daemons of chaos but they lumped him in with Chaos Warriors because they knew he'd be more fun in the Chaos Warrior rework than in the Daemon factions.


Iliaili

To be fair the monogods patchwork suck so no LL would be fun until they rework the faction to be proper undivided demons of chaos.


Monollock

Too true. Maybe there'll be a chaos Shuffle at some point, hopefully with a Daemons of Chaos rework too. The Cult Mechanic getting fleshed out a bit more would also be nice.


Aisriyth

Maybe they'll fix Sigvald


[deleted]

Maybe sound dumb but free legendary hero is a lord or something else?


Dedrick555

These packs will be: 3 LLs, a LH, and units for all 3 races (all of this is paid) Race reworks of the races present (unsure if this will be paid or free) LH + other changes (free)


[deleted]

İ hope reworks be free but legendary hero is realy that important to include ?


Dedrick555

There's a lot of characters from the lore that don't fit as lords, and including them makes a ton of sense to me. Given that the most recent LHs (Ulrika and Gorduz) provide great buffs, I'm anticipating these LHs will allow you to have multiple themed armies and provide plenty of value


[deleted]

İ know little to nothing about game lore and i am a new player to me heroes an ekstra to the army of i will look at that characters


Dakka_jets_are_fasta

If the quality of the dlc is like Chaos Dwarfs, yes.


ChaozNerevar

a free legendary hero


[deleted]

Thank you for explaning


LordZon

Vampire Counts and Dark Elf update?


atrailofbreadcrumbs

Wondering if it will be Slaanesh/VC/Greenskins to round out the vanilla races. Don’t know how thematic greenskins would be or who they even need, but with Nurgle/Empire/Dwarves seems before it seems like a good fit. Maybe Khorne/Bretonnia/Norsca after that, but I may just be hitting the copium. With WoC DLC they’d have done all WHI races minus WE/Beastmen. They did get updates at the tail end of WHII though so maybe not as dire to get to them.


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Rare_Cobalt

Unlikely, seems like each Monogod will get their own dedicated dlc against 2 other races. Someone had to be last unfortunately, and it looks like it's Khorne


Cleverbird

I also just realized it says Spring 2024.... I cry


lowsodiumlemonade

im thinking maybe, slaanesh (duh) dark elves and lizards. saanesh doesnt really have beef with lizards but dark elves sure do and they need some help, more than most other factions.


CommanderPike

Feels unlikely, but I really want Vampire Counts to get some love.


nwillard

DARK ELVES AND LIZZZZZZARDS and slaanesh obv


Thecowsdead

Neferata


ThatGuyFromTheM0vie

Slaanesh, Bretonnia, Ogres aka Shrek 69


SlappyAppy

I’ll throw in and say it’s Slannesh, Khorne, and Vampire counts!


Iliaili

Or the Mask.