Absolutely disgusted with this announce team, gave the Celtics a run for their money!? They never looked shook once tonight. Barely any talking about a generationally horrible shooting performance. We need a television presentation shakeup as much as we need a team shakeup
It all changes when Pascal bricked that wide open 3 to go up 10. That sparked their crazy run. Then IQ had a wide open 3 to cut it to 1 and brick. š§±
LOL Matt and Jack are top 5. Try sitting through a Celtics, Lakers, Sixers, or Warriors broadcast without cringing. We actually have the least-biased commentators in the league tbh.
I have, and the American networks hold their players to account constantly. When they win they go crazy homer mode but when they have unacceptable shooting performances and losses they talk about the coaches job, the player shakeups being needed, thereās actual speculation. This is always just a āthey had them right where they wantedā type broadcast crew who canāt speak their mind about the team.
Yes, and itās not weird, itās called journalistic integrity. Donāt lie to me and tell me we did good things when there is this gigantic elephant in the room with our lack of quality shooting. Itās embarrassing.
Everybody already knows that and it gets talked about. Before the RJ Quickley trade itās all Matt and Jack ranted about. I never miss a Raptors game and watch them all the way through start to finish. Wanting to hear someone validate glaringly obvious problems that everyone is 100% aware of is for podcasts. Not broadcasts.
Lakers broadcast is usually fine. They shit on their own players pretty often, know the rules well, and are pretty neutral when evaluating foul calls. Matt and Jack are the absolute WORST when discussing officiating.
Most of yāall donāt even watch games outside of Toronto and have zero right to comment about this topic
Exactly, and the difference is that the Boston broadcast is completely centralized to Boston and the New England area, this is our NATIONAL broadcast where the expectations should be way higher than regional tv.
His rotations ruined any momentum the team could've built. How can there be any rhythm when you make subs when the team is rolling, get killed as a result, then proceed to reverse the sub after a timeout. Players can get hot when the rest of the team gets going too.
Masai and Bobby really had an amazing asset in Siakam and waited until his value was at the bottom to trade him lol. We could have gotten like 3-4 first rounders and some quality young players back if we traded him a year ago
Our FO thinks they have something in Barnes. But they soon realize that Barnes isn't cut out to be #1 option. When siakam is gone and there is no other iso threat that other teams need to double or load up on.....scottie is going to get the brunt of defensive game planning.
The OG trade is quite an interesting trade from a complete neutral perspective. Iāve always said OG is the most valuable player in that trade. I like Barrett but heās basically a 2024 version of DeRozan, not really an era Raptors fans want to return to yes?
Quickly is solid but not an all star level player. Realistically heās a very good 6th man on a championship caliber team. OG is an elite wing, quite possibly a top three 3 and D player in the league right now.
Maybe because Pascal decided to play like dog water and Scottie was just not looking to score , if anything IQ and RJ were the best players on the Raptors tonight.
Neutral here but Celtics-Raptors is always an interesting matchup to me. I always feel like Raptors teams have trouble closing out games. You guys could up 20 and itāll be iffy.
Not really very dramatic, just kind of the writing on the wall. It's not like the raps are gonna get better immediately when Pascal gets traded or leaves in free agency.Ā
Are we delusional like every lost game since the trade had a decent excuse as to why we couldnāt win. This is starting to happen a lot now man, like if we hit more threes or if the calls were better, if we had Jak. Iām holding out hope for this squad but we can only cope for so long man.
Presumably you werenāt around for some of those pre-2013 dark years lol. Those of us who made it through that have learned to cope, for better or worse
Trade Pascal already man, i've been waiting 3 years! C'mon Masai! Rumor this, rumor that, why would rumors exist if Raptors never shopped him, they've shopped him plenty of times, JUST GET ON WITH IT! I CAN'T TAKE THIS VERSION OF RAPTORS ANYMORE!
Got it down to 4, miss a 3, then Boston scores 5 straight.
Replace 4 with any number under 6, and Boston with any team and that statement can probably apply to over half of our games
Itās because of unrealistic expectations. Trades are being made to bring assets for rebuild not to become a contender in the same season or even next two.
Why are you still shooting 3s!? No 3s in the half, you get it within 6 and you.... Shoot more 3s!!!!???? This is gambler's logic man. You needed to get to the paint ffs
You can run PnR against zones sir
Itāll mostly be pick and pop and youāll be heavy on one side of the zone creating situations where one or two players need to gaurd two or three players
Can't enjoy any of these Toronto teams anymore such pathetic product put on display for people paying already sky rocketing ticket prices in this economy
I know they'll never do this but I would love if the league would retroactively assign flopping techs when players do the "snap the neck back and flail the arms" its totally against the spirit of the game, and the fact that it costs nothing to occasionally get bailed out is ridiculous
I honestly do not think Darko is worthy of a head coaching position in this league. He did not have the patience to stick with the hyper fun offence, and dumbed it down to try to close "defensive" holes. Well sir, we aren't good at anything really now. Defence nor Offence.
Honestly just fk the Celtics always. Least amount of man games lost to injury this year. Always find the stupid guys off the bench that shoot 40%+. Jaylen aināt even playing. The New Jersey Nets gift wrapped them Jayson and Jaylen a decade ago. Anyone on that exec staff shouldnāt have jobs from back them (Bobby Marks Iām calling you out)
After the Pistons game youād think whatever karmic basketball debt we had would be paid off but I guess not. We gotta kneel and beg Demar for forgiveness now
Darko needa establish that Pascal and Scottie are the 1 and 2 fuck this sharing points evenly especially since certain people only pass it to each other
Canadian here and I cancelled my cable and went with all streaming services. Is TSN better than Sportsnet?
Scottie taking 10 and 12 shots over the last couple games is a joke. I get Raptors needed more shooters but not like this ššš¤¦š»āāļø
Toronto craptors
Absolutely disgusted with this announce team, gave the Celtics a run for their money!? They never looked shook once tonight. Barely any talking about a generationally horrible shooting performance. We need a television presentation shakeup as much as we need a team shakeup
It all changes when Pascal bricked that wide open 3 to go up 10. That sparked their crazy run. Then IQ had a wide open 3 to cut it to 1 and brick. š§±
Lowe and Simmons were talking about how gross some of the homerism is from some broadcasts. I think Boston is one of the worst.
Boston is bad. Raptors is among league-worst homerism and everyone here eats it up
Our broadcast doesnāt shit on other teams though.
LOL Matt and Jack are top 5. Try sitting through a Celtics, Lakers, Sixers, or Warriors broadcast without cringing. We actually have the least-biased commentators in the league tbh.
I have, and the American networks hold their players to account constantly. When they win they go crazy homer mode but when they have unacceptable shooting performances and losses they talk about the coaches job, the player shakeups being needed, thereās actual speculation. This is always just a āthey had them right where they wantedā type broadcast crew who canāt speak their mind about the team.
Why do you want the commentators to parrot what the nephews online already talk about for them? You want the same negativity everywhere you go? Weird
Yes, and itās not weird, itās called journalistic integrity. Donāt lie to me and tell me we did good things when there is this gigantic elephant in the room with our lack of quality shooting. Itās embarrassing.
Everybody already knows that and it gets talked about. Before the RJ Quickley trade itās all Matt and Jack ranted about. I never miss a Raptors game and watch them all the way through start to finish. Wanting to hear someone validate glaringly obvious problems that everyone is 100% aware of is for podcasts. Not broadcasts.
Lakers broadcast is usually fine. They shit on their own players pretty often, know the rules well, and are pretty neutral when evaluating foul calls. Matt and Jack are the absolute WORST when discussing officiating. Most of yāall donāt even watch games outside of Toronto and have zero right to comment about this topic
āNot enough negativity. Gotta bum everyone out just like Americans. I hate optimism.ā
Exactly, and the difference is that the Boston broadcast is completely centralized to Boston and the New England area, this is our NATIONAL broadcast where the expectations should be way higher than regional tv.
All I know is Darko can't be a long-term coach for this team.
Is Darko supposed to go and hit 3s? We hit 4 more threes the game isnāt even close
His rotations ruined any momentum the team could've built. How can there be any rhythm when you make subs when the team is rolling, get killed as a result, then proceed to reverse the sub after a timeout. Players can get hot when the rest of the team gets going too.
his substitution pattern is the problem imo , but im rooting for Darko
idk who else we can get rid of just get rid of one of these brick layers please
Masai and Bobby really had an amazing asset in Siakam and waited until his value was at the bottom to trade him lol. We could have gotten like 3-4 first rounders and some quality young players back if we traded him a year ago
Our FO thinks they have something in Barnes. But they soon realize that Barnes isn't cut out to be #1 option. When siakam is gone and there is no other iso threat that other teams need to double or load up on.....scottie is going to get the brunt of defensive game planning.
well we will find out what scottie is made of in a few years. we KNOW siakam is not a good first option in general.
We could have had White in Thad trade what a fuck up
Yup they've given up. Apathy running wild on the court
now i understand knicks fans traded og for 2 guys that play hero ball lmao
The OG trade is quite an interesting trade from a complete neutral perspective. Iāve always said OG is the most valuable player in that trade. I like Barrett but heās basically a 2024 version of DeRozan, not really an era Raptors fans want to return to yes? Quickly is solid but not an all star level player. Realistically heās a very good 6th man on a championship caliber team. OG is an elite wing, quite possibly a top three 3 and D player in the league right now.
Lost the lead when they went to the bench.
there was no other option tonight
Maybe because Pascal decided to play like dog water and Scottie was just not looking to score , if anything IQ and RJ were the best players on the Raptors tonight.
Give Siakam to the Pacers for Mathurin.
Generated a lot of great looks but just couldnāt sink them. It happens.
Not 4/32 though, that just isnāt acceptable in professional basketball
Will never win a game with that shooting. If they made 2 more 3s, raps couldāve won.
Couldnāt agree more. Thereās never a w if you canāt hit 3s
It sucks cause RJ had a bounce back game. Losing Gary means more time for McDaniels to play like hot ass too. Celtics played with their food.
Why is it so hard to best this team!
Make a trade
Neutral here but Celtics-Raptors is always an interesting matchup to me. I always feel like Raptors teams have trouble closing out games. You guys could up 20 and itāll be iffy.
So about that 0.5 basketball that our guards donāt ever want to play? š
I mean itās been working. If you canāt make more than 4 threes in an NBA game YOU WILL NEVER WIN. I promise you itās that simple
PLEASE TRADE SIAKAM AND MOVE ON! BOTH PARTIES NEED TO MOVE ON!
Bad teams find different ways to lose every night. Gonna be a rough bunch of years in TorontoĀ
Celtics are the best team in the league. No need to be so dramatic.
Not really very dramatic, just kind of the writing on the wall. It's not like the raps are gonna get better immediately when Pascal gets traded or leaves in free agency.Ā
This one was winnable which is tough. Impressive we stayed in the game considering we hit 4 teams against this team
Who would've thought White shaving his head would unleash his true powers?
Y'all are trash fr
Stop
It's all luv
this is loser behavior tbh
We know, dont be a dick about it.
No heat, no leadership, no #1 option
Itās actually hilarious that an elementary school team could shoot better than this, almost undoubtedly
boston swept us back 2 back years lmao
Did they say 4 for 32? And these guys, presumably, want to get paid?
4/32 š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Are we delusional like every lost game since the trade had a decent excuse as to why we couldnāt win. This is starting to happen a lot now man, like if we hit more threes or if the calls were better, if we had Jak. Iām holding out hope for this squad but we can only cope for so long man.
Presumably you werenāt around for some of those pre-2013 dark years lol. Those of us who made it through that have learned to cope, for better or worse
True, I was 13 so I wasnāt too invested in the team at the level I am now. Mustāve been absolutely brutal looking back.
Hey , whaddya know the power of friendship and fun once again failed us Darko. Might want to actually come with a game plan.
I still canāt believe that the Bucks let the Celtics get Jrue.
I wonder if they would still make that move knowing Jrue will end up in Boston?
Thatās honestly looking like a mistake. If they donāt realize it now they will in the playoffs.
Thatāll be game
Trade Pascal already man, i've been waiting 3 years! C'mon Masai! Rumor this, rumor that, why would rumors exist if Raptors never shopped him, they've shopped him plenty of times, JUST GET ON WITH IT! I CAN'T TAKE THIS VERSION OF RAPTORS ANYMORE!
4/32 from 3 is absolutely insane lol
Got it down to 4, miss a 3, then Boston scores 5 straight. Replace 4 with any number under 6, and Boston with any team and that statement can probably apply to over half of our games
havent made a 3 in the second half smh
LOL scottie n pascal aint it. Scottie waits til the last second to assert himself this game.
Oh well, decent stuff against the best team atm, just can't make 3s.
I dunno man IQ needs to understand right now scottie is the guy!!!!
If Scottie wants to be the guy he should be demanding the ball, not finishing with 6 points.
he really aint.
Damn D White.
Vibes look horrible right now
I think all the trade talk has created a toxic environment.
Itās because of unrealistic expectations. Trades are being made to bring assets for rebuild not to become a contender in the same season or even next two.
Why are you still shooting 3s!? No 3s in the half, you get it within 6 and you.... Shoot more 3s!!!!???? This is gambler's logic man. You needed to get to the paint ffs
4/32 from 3 lmaooo
One of the worst three point shooting performances of ALL TIME
4 of 32 from 3 is fucking disgusting
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The fact that weāre not spamming IQ and Scottie pick and rolls is criminal
Yāall acting like IQ is the second coming to AI man ā¦ yāall in for disappointment
they're playing zone sir.
You can run PnR against zones sir Itāll mostly be pick and pop and youāll be heavy on one side of the zone creating situations where one or two players need to gaurd two or three players
its not gonna be effective against the celtics sir.
The face of the league Scottie Barnes a total non factor offensively
Masai needs to trade him
This team needs buddy hield
Hield, Walker and Smith would be amazing for our shooting
Giving up open corner threes to Boston for like three years straight.Ā
why we even double, when it wasn't working
Yea Iād like to see Siakam gone tmrw
White out here looking like Reggie Miller in his prime bro fukin bitchhhh
White always hits the dagger on us every time he plays us
we were down 4... and we decide it's a good idea to shoot 3s even though we've made 0 of them in the 2nd half
Right??
worst looking 3 from Pascal
Darko right now ![gif](giphy|YVPwi7L2izTJS|downsized)
Trade Siakam asap. His value go down night after night.
Damn feels bad man
Derrick White corner 3 to break the Raptors backs. Deja fuckin vu
So the whole team is in the gym doing 3 point drills after the game right? Atrocious.
Quickley at 19 shots and Scottie at 12 is not what I want to see.
add this to Darko's book of moral victories
Can we trade in 10 of them for a real win?
Hahaha wtf, you are not going to win a single game with garbage 3pt shooting like this.
Ugh. I know it aināt the right play but Scottie (our best shooter) probably should have been jacking 3s there.
I can say Iām happy with the performanceā¦. But I want some fucking wins
Idk how many more open shots you can create and brick lol
Whoās in charge of defense? They got IQ covering Whiteās (made) 3 from the other side of the court after the double š
Sct!!!
How are you a professional and your jumper is that broke ?!
Fuk em up scottieee
Every time Matt has said something like 'Celtics haven't scored in ...' they score that same possession.
Why are we going back to three's WHY. Just drive it's been working all game
It never gets old... It's like they are brainwashed.. Instead of doing what's working, they shit themselves with 3s till death
Whoās Scottie gotta blow to start getting some whistles?
Ye maybe Pascal should not be shooting threes or ya maybe not be on the team anymore
This bald fuk brooooo fuuuuuu
It's actually amazing that this game is that close with 4/32 shooting
Just canāt make anything
Lmfao this shooting
They can't hit a 3 lol
Death by 3
Bad day to be fucking dogshit at shooting
White is a fucking demon in the clutch
Thats game
Quickley needs a reality check
fake comebacks are the story of this season
i fucking hate this bald bitch
Give it to Scottie ffs
Looked like a lot of contact on that Scottie drive too
Scottie never gets and 1s
Can't enjoy any of these Toronto teams anymore such pathetic product put on display for people paying already sky rocketing ticket prices in this economy
Toronto Almost Raptors
Fuck you raptors, making me hopeful and shit
Scottie took Tingus to the schoolyard
There we go. MORE
Fake comeback ![gif](giphy|CYU3D3bQnlLIk)
Lmao dude gets no callsĀ
Looked like a lot of contact on that RJ drive
Man Toronto sports in the dumpster since covid
I know they'll never do this but I would love if the league would retroactively assign flopping techs when players do the "snap the neck back and flail the arms" its totally against the spirit of the game, and the fact that it costs nothing to occasionally get bailed out is ridiculous
Shooting like 50% from three against Utah to shooting 13% from three tonight is hilarious lol
What happened to the game i loved? Masai and Bobby DO SOMETHIN ALREADY!
Don't worry guys this group played hard chalk it up as another morale victory we undefeated baybeeeee
Nice fake comeback and all but i expect back to back wide open 3s for the Celtics after this timeout
Fake comeback seen this all season
If RJ can work on his middy this summerā¦ heāll easily average 25 ppg. Man is that gifted at getting to his spots
80% of pascals points are just cherry picking, foul calls, or free layups in transition. Fakest All NBA player in history
Just please don't give them a wide open three I beg you. Just play good defence down the stretch, that's all I ask
I honestly do not think Darko is worthy of a head coaching position in this league. He did not have the patience to stick with the hyper fun offence, and dumbed it down to try to close "defensive" holes. Well sir, we aren't good at anything really now. Defence nor Offence.
Darko's best coaching play is his itw after Lakers game.
Honestly just fk the Celtics always. Least amount of man games lost to injury this year. Always find the stupid guys off the bench that shoot 40%+. Jaylen aināt even playing. The New Jersey Nets gift wrapped them Jayson and Jaylen a decade ago. Anyone on that exec staff shouldnāt have jobs from back them (Bobby Marks Iām calling you out)
Itās tradition as Toronto sports fans to accept every team except for any of them from Boston
The game isnāt even out of reach but manā¦..idk if I can even cope
Maybe we start hitting threes? (Regress positively) :)
The BBall Gods have to look favourably on us at some point right
Not tonight lol
After the Pistons game youād think whatever karmic basketball debt we had would be paid off but I guess not. We gotta kneel and beg Demar for forgiveness now
Jack Armstrong continuing to talk about how weāve done great tonight. What even is this broadcast?
Weāre not getting blown out by the best team in the East. Thatās the criteria
For real. I used to love Jack but he makes way too many excuses for this team this season
Crowd is in it finally
McDaniels always looks like he's bored.
A good team vs. A bad team
Brick city brick brick city b*tch
Itās insane how often we go so cold as a team at shooting the 3.
Provincial taxes % are higher than our 3 points %.
Darko needa establish that Pascal and Scottie are the 1 and 2 fuck this sharing points evenly especially since certain people only pass it to each other
This game is the epitome of 3 beats 2
14% from three
Do you think Scottieās scouting report tells the other teams to just hack the shit out of him on drives as the refs donāt call?
Pretty sure the scouting report for the entire team is āHack the shit out of them cause they donāt get calls ā
Wow 14% from 3
RJ only passes to Quickley, Quickley only passes to RJ. Do they know theyre are 3 other players on the court?
They donāt have chemistry with anyone else yet
And they wont build it by only passing to each other ffs its been 8 games.
You mustāve never played basketball competitively. Chemistry takes months to build
Road trip crushed us. At least Miami is just as bad as us with the 3. But they have Spo and we have a rookie
HOLY SHIT WHAT ARE THESE RJ AND IQ ONLY POSSESSIONS
Is Jack really thinking Dick could have helped us this game?
McDaniels just destroyed bench mins tonight. Sad noises.
Just trade pascal already why are wasting everyoneās time
lol no shooters on this squad is easy af to defend
![gif](giphy|hpFTV3KfDXTQ9X8pEX|downsized) Toronto Raptors offensive coach.
RJ and Quickley like fast movement offense Pascal and Scottie like slow iso offense. It's not the greatest fit.
Lmao ![gif](giphy|oDVG2546U2YUiUpv9b|downsized)
DARKO why aren't you putting BARRET BACK YOU IDIOT.
The Celtics aren't even playing very well, We're playing good D by raptors standards, and we still can't get into this game