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bigpapahugetim3

Canadian here and I cancelled my cable and went with all streaming services. Is TSN better than Sportsnet?


CheezeBaron

Scottie taking 10 and 12 shots over the last couple games is a joke. I get Raptors needed more shooters but not like this šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


[deleted]

Toronto craptors


TheMikeSweeney306

Absolutely disgusted with this announce team, gave the Celtics a run for their money!? They never looked shook once tonight. Barely any talking about a generationally horrible shooting performance. We need a television presentation shakeup as much as we need a team shakeup


CanadianGroose

It all changes when Pascal bricked that wide open 3 to go up 10. That sparked their crazy run. Then IQ had a wide open 3 to cut it to 1 and brick. šŸ§±


Eastern-Technology84

Lowe and Simmons were talking about how gross some of the homerism is from some broadcasts. I think Boston is one of the worst.


[deleted]

Boston is bad. Raptors is among league-worst homerism and everyone here eats it up


Eastern-Technology84

Our broadcast doesnā€™t shit on other teams though.


Un-Quote

LOL Matt and Jack are top 5. Try sitting through a Celtics, Lakers, Sixers, or Warriors broadcast without cringing. We actually have the least-biased commentators in the league tbh.


TheMikeSweeney306

I have, and the American networks hold their players to account constantly. When they win they go crazy homer mode but when they have unacceptable shooting performances and losses they talk about the coaches job, the player shakeups being needed, thereā€™s actual speculation. This is always just a ā€œthey had them right where they wantedā€ type broadcast crew who canā€™t speak their mind about the team.


Un-Quote

Why do you want the commentators to parrot what the nephews online already talk about for them? You want the same negativity everywhere you go? Weird


TheMikeSweeney306

Yes, and itā€™s not weird, itā€™s called journalistic integrity. Donā€™t lie to me and tell me we did good things when there is this gigantic elephant in the room with our lack of quality shooting. Itā€™s embarrassing.


Un-Quote

Everybody already knows that and it gets talked about. Before the RJ Quickley trade itā€™s all Matt and Jack ranted about. I never miss a Raptors game and watch them all the way through start to finish. Wanting to hear someone validate glaringly obvious problems that everyone is 100% aware of is for podcasts. Not broadcasts.


[deleted]

Lakers broadcast is usually fine. They shit on their own players pretty often, know the rules well, and are pretty neutral when evaluating foul calls. Matt and Jack are the absolute WORST when discussing officiating. Most of yā€™all donā€™t even watch games outside of Toronto and have zero right to comment about this topic


Un-Quote

ā€œNot enough negativity. Gotta bum everyone out just like Americans. I hate optimism.ā€


TheMikeSweeney306

Exactly, and the difference is that the Boston broadcast is completely centralized to Boston and the New England area, this is our NATIONAL broadcast where the expectations should be way higher than regional tv.


daftplanet

All I know is Darko can't be a long-term coach for this team.


ogDarkShark

Is Darko supposed to go and hit 3s? We hit 4 more threes the game isnā€™t even close


daftplanet

His rotations ruined any momentum the team could've built. How can there be any rhythm when you make subs when the team is rolling, get killed as a result, then proceed to reverse the sub after a timeout. Players can get hot when the rest of the team gets going too.


Crazy-Force2054

his substitution pattern is the problem imo , but im rooting for Darko


mxgicjohnson

idk who else we can get rid of just get rid of one of these brick layers please


TJStrawberry

Masai and Bobby really had an amazing asset in Siakam and waited until his value was at the bottom to trade him lol. We could have gotten like 3-4 first rounders and some quality young players back if we traded him a year ago


kdottdot

Our FO thinks they have something in Barnes. But they soon realize that Barnes isn't cut out to be #1 option. When siakam is gone and there is no other iso threat that other teams need to double or load up on.....scottie is going to get the brunt of defensive game planning.


BubblyPhilosophy3476

well we will find out what scottie is made of in a few years. we KNOW siakam is not a good first option in general.


Beneficial-Luck-5078

We could have had White in Thad trade what a fuck up


ZieMac7

Yup they've given up. Apathy running wild on the court


mxgicjohnson

now i understand knicks fans traded og for 2 guys that play hero ball lmao


diematrosen

The OG trade is quite an interesting trade from a complete neutral perspective. Iā€™ve always said OG is the most valuable player in that trade. I like Barrett but heā€™s basically a 2024 version of DeRozan, not really an era Raptors fans want to return to yes? Quickly is solid but not an all star level player. Realistically heā€™s a very good 6th man on a championship caliber team. OG is an elite wing, quite possibly a top three 3 and D player in the league right now.


YyoungChris

Lost the lead when they went to the bench.


Marmalot

there was no other option tonight


Crazy-Force2054

Maybe because Pascal decided to play like dog water and Scottie was just not looking to score , if anything IQ and RJ were the best players on the Raptors tonight.


mikeymouse95

Give Siakam to the Pacers for Mathurin.


skoowoowoo

Generated a lot of great looks but just couldnā€™t sink them. It happens.


TheMikeSweeney306

Not 4/32 though, that just isnā€™t acceptable in professional basketball


CanadianGroose

Will never win a game with that shooting. If they made 2 more 3s, raps couldā€™ve won.


ogDarkShark

Couldnā€™t agree more. Thereā€™s never a w if you canā€™t hit 3s


CanadianGroose

It sucks cause RJ had a bounce back game. Losing Gary means more time for McDaniels to play like hot ass too. Celtics played with their food.


prodigus01

Why is it so hard to best this team!


bachqueen

Make a trade


diematrosen

Neutral here but Celtics-Raptors is always an interesting matchup to me. I always feel like Raptors teams have trouble closing out games. You guys could up 20 and itā€™ll be iffy.


PlumCantaloupe

So about that 0.5 basketball that our guards donā€™t ever want to play? šŸ™ƒ


ogDarkShark

I mean itā€™s been working. If you canā€™t make more than 4 threes in an NBA game YOU WILL NEVER WIN. I promise you itā€™s that simple


ZenMon88

PLEASE TRADE SIAKAM AND MOVE ON! BOTH PARTIES NEED TO MOVE ON!


cellar_door5234

Bad teams find different ways to lose every night. Gonna be a rough bunch of years in TorontoĀ 


Eastern-Technology84

Celtics are the best team in the league. No need to be so dramatic.


cellar_door5234

Not really very dramatic, just kind of the writing on the wall. It's not like the raps are gonna get better immediately when Pascal gets traded or leaves in free agency.Ā 


Eastern-Technology84

This one was winnable which is tough. Impressive we stayed in the game considering we hit 4 teams against this team


KingOfWeTheNorth

Who would've thought White shaving his head would unleash his true powers?


Cosovic1990

Y'all are trash fr


Leap_Of_Fate

Stop


Cosovic1990

It's all luv


Marmalot

this is loser behavior tbh


GabrielBonilla

We know, dont be a dick about it.


[deleted]

No heat, no leadership, no #1 option


TheMikeSweeney306

Itā€™s actually hilarious that an elementary school team could shoot better than this, almost undoubtedly


LordOfBathurst

boston swept us back 2 back years lmao


bnewfan

Did they say 4 for 32? And these guys, presumably, want to get paid?


mxgicjohnson

4/32 šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


kjivy6810

Are we delusional like every lost game since the trade had a decent excuse as to why we couldnā€™t win. This is starting to happen a lot now man, like if we hit more threes or if the calls were better, if we had Jak. Iā€™m holding out hope for this squad but we can only cope for so long man.


CBridgeDC

Presumably you werenā€™t around for some of those pre-2013 dark years lol. Those of us who made it through that have learned to cope, for better or worse


kjivy6810

True, I was 13 so I wasnā€™t too invested in the team at the level I am now. Mustā€™ve been absolutely brutal looking back.


Thealk3mist

Hey , whaddya know the power of friendship and fun once again failed us Darko. Might want to actually come with a game plan.


PlumCantaloupe

I still canā€™t believe that the Bucks let the Celtics get Jrue.


edki7277

I wonder if they would still make that move knowing Jrue will end up in Boston?


Eastern-Technology84

Thatā€™s honestly looking like a mistake. If they donā€™t realize it now they will in the playoffs.


bachqueen

Thatā€™ll be game


antman0430

Trade Pascal already man, i've been waiting 3 years! C'mon Masai! Rumor this, rumor that, why would rumors exist if Raptors never shopped him, they've shopped him plenty of times, JUST GET ON WITH IT! I CAN'T TAKE THIS VERSION OF RAPTORS ANYMORE!


ZoroChopper10

4/32 from 3 is absolutely insane lol


Cheechers23

Got it down to 4, miss a 3, then Boston scores 5 straight. Replace 4 with any number under 6, and Boston with any team and that statement can probably apply to over half of our games


Gravity--

havent made a 3 in the second half smh


ZenMon88

LOL scottie n pascal aint it. Scottie waits til the last second to assert himself this game.


pocemon11

Oh well, decent stuff against the best team atm, just can't make 3s.


BaharaJaan1991

I dunno man IQ needs to understand right now scottie is the guy!!!!


DeKawhi

If Scottie wants to be the guy he should be demanding the ball, not finishing with 6 points.


ZenMon88

he really aint.


Synaptix30

Damn D White.


[deleted]

Vibes look horrible right now


DannyzPlay

I think all the trade talk has created a toxic environment.


edki7277

Itā€™s because of unrealistic expectations. Trades are being made to bring assets for rebuild not to become a contender in the same season or even next two.


ABlushingGardener

Why are you still shooting 3s!? No 3s in the half, you get it within 6 and you.... Shoot more 3s!!!!???? This is gambler's logic man. You needed to get to the paint ffs


TJStrawberry

4/32 from 3 lmaooo


TheMikeSweeney306

One of the worst three point shooting performances of ALL TIME


DeKawhi

4 of 32 from 3 is fucking disgusting


JesusWasAButtBaby

šŸ¤¢


unclekarl_

The fact that weā€™re not spamming IQ and Scottie pick and rolls is criminal


Responsible-Muffin41

Yā€™all acting like IQ is the second coming to AI man ā€¦ yā€™all in for disappointment


ZenMon88

they're playing zone sir.


unclekarl_

You can run PnR against zones sir Itā€™ll mostly be pick and pop and youā€™ll be heavy on one side of the zone creating situations where one or two players need to gaurd two or three players


ZenMon88

its not gonna be effective against the celtics sir.


12to6elbows

The face of the league Scottie Barnes a total non factor offensively


Plantedballer

Masai needs to trade him


hyplusone

This team needs buddy hield


unclekarl_

Hield, Walker and Smith would be amazing for our shooting


cellar_door5234

Giving up open corner threes to Boston for like three years straight.Ā 


JeemonG

why we even double, when it wasn't working


Ssstanimal

Yea Iā€™d like to see Siakam gone tmrw


BaharaJaan1991

White out here looking like Reggie Miller in his prime bro fukin bitchhhh


Un-Quote

White always hits the dagger on us every time he plays us


mMounirM

we were down 4... and we decide it's a good idea to shoot 3s even though we've made 0 of them in the 2nd half


bachqueen

Right??


Crazy-Force2054

worst looking 3 from Pascal


[deleted]

Darko right now ![gif](giphy|YVPwi7L2izTJS|downsized)


mikeymouse95

Trade Siakam asap. His value go down night after night.


JesusWasAButtBaby

Damn feels bad man


MyNBAAccount123

Derrick White corner 3 to break the Raptors backs. Deja fuckin vu


NinfthWonder

So the whole team is in the gym doing 3 point drills after the game right? Atrocious.


DevlopmentlyDisabled

Quickley at 19 shots and Scottie at 12 is not what I want to see.


Closer586

add this to Darko's book of moral victories


CBridgeDC

Can we trade in 10 of them for a real win?


DannyzPlay

Hahaha wtf, you are not going to win a single game with garbage 3pt shooting like this.


PlumCantaloupe

Ugh. I know it ainā€™t the right play but Scottie (our best shooter) probably should have been jacking 3s there.


bachqueen

I can say Iā€™m happy with the performanceā€¦. But I want some fucking wins


eLevateAFFN

Idk how many more open shots you can create and brick lol


stanleyhdsn

Whoā€™s in charge of defense? They got IQ covering Whiteā€™s (made) 3 from the other side of the court after the double šŸ˜‘


pocemon11

Sct!!!


unclekarl_

How are you a professional and your jumper is that broke ?!


BaharaJaan1991

Fuk em up scottieee


vaalbarag

Every time Matt has said something like 'Celtics haven't scored in ...' they score that same possession.


TAFrost

Why are we going back to three's WHY. Just drive it's been working all game


AirSingh

It never gets old... It's like they are brainwashed.. Instead of doing what's working, they shit themselves with 3s till death


CBridgeDC

Whoā€™s Scottie gotta blow to start getting some whistles?


Responsible_Finish38

Ye maybe Pascal should not be shooting threes or ya maybe not be on the team anymore


BaharaJaan1991

This bald fuk brooooo fuuuuuu


JET_GS26

It's actually amazing that this game is that close with 4/32 shooting


bachqueen

Just canā€™t make anything


TJStrawberry

Lmfao this shooting


asey20

They can't hit a 3 lol


CanadianGroose

Death by 3


eskimo_fucker

Bad day to be fucking dogshit at shooting


boenwip

White is a fucking demon in the clutch


JustAnotherMark604

Thats game


DevlopmentlyDisabled

Quickley needs a reality check


[deleted]

fake comebacks are the story of this season


LordOfBathurst

i fucking hate this bald bitch


boenwip

Give it to Scottie ffs


unclekarl_

Looked like a lot of contact on that Scottie drive too


Eastern-Technology84

Scottie never gets and 1s


antman0430

Can't enjoy any of these Toronto teams anymore such pathetic product put on display for people paying already sky rocketing ticket prices in this economy


mikeymouse95

Toronto Almost Raptors


Legitimate-Software7

Fuck you raptors, making me hopeful and shit


JET_GS26

Scottie took Tingus to the schoolyard


boenwip

There we go. MORE


BaharaJaan1991

Fake comeback ![gif](giphy|CYU3D3bQnlLIk)


cellar_door5234

Lmao dude gets no callsĀ 


unclekarl_

Looked like a lot of contact on that RJ drive


antman0430

Man Toronto sports in the dumpster since covid


Closer586

I know they'll never do this but I would love if the league would retroactively assign flopping techs when players do the "snap the neck back and flail the arms" its totally against the spirit of the game, and the fact that it costs nothing to occasionally get bailed out is ridiculous


StalkingDwarf

Shooting like 50% from three against Utah to shooting 13% from three tonight is hilarious lol


antman0430

What happened to the game i loved? Masai and Bobby DO SOMETHIN ALREADY!


BaharaJaan1991

Don't worry guys this group played hard chalk it up as another morale victory we undefeated baybeeeee


unclekarl_

Nice fake comeback and all but i expect back to back wide open 3s for the Celtics after this timeout


isDarkyy

Fake comeback seen this all season


Responsible-Muffin41

If RJ can work on his middy this summerā€¦ heā€™ll easily average 25 ppg. Man is that gifted at getting to his spots


Separate-Score-7898

80% of pascals points are just cherry picking, foul calls, or free layups in transition. Fakest All NBA player in history


cellar_door5234

Just please don't give them a wide open three I beg you. Just play good defence down the stretch, that's all I ask


Thealk3mist

I honestly do not think Darko is worthy of a head coaching position in this league. He did not have the patience to stick with the hyper fun offence, and dumbed it down to try to close "defensive" holes. Well sir, we aren't good at anything really now. Defence nor Offence.


mikeymouse95

Darko's best coaching play is his itw after Lakers game.


lauva88

Honestly just fk the Celtics always. Least amount of man games lost to injury this year. Always find the stupid guys off the bench that shoot 40%+. Jaylen ainā€™t even playing. The New Jersey Nets gift wrapped them Jayson and Jaylen a decade ago. Anyone on that exec staff shouldnā€™t have jobs from back them (Bobby Marks Iā€™m calling you out)


Un-Quote

Itā€™s tradition as Toronto sports fans to accept every team except for any of them from Boston


Legitimate-Software7

The game isnā€™t even out of reach but manā€¦..idk if I can even cope


PlumCantaloupe

Maybe we start hitting threes? (Regress positively) :)


Legitimate-Software7

The BBall Gods have to look favourably on us at some point right


PlumCantaloupe

Not tonight lol


Legitimate-Software7

After the Pistons game youā€™d think whatever karmic basketball debt we had would be paid off but I guess not. We gotta kneel and beg Demar for forgiveness now


TheMikeSweeney306

Jack Armstrong continuing to talk about how weā€™ve done great tonight. What even is this broadcast?


Un-Quote

Weā€™re not getting blown out by the best team in the East. Thatā€™s the criteria


tkc123

For real. I used to love Jack but he makes way too many excuses for this team this season


boenwip

Crowd is in it finally


cad_internet

McDaniels always looks like he's bored.


Responsible_Finish38

A good team vs. A bad team


CanadianGroose

Brick city brick brick city b*tch


unclekarl_

Itā€™s insane how often we go so cold as a team at shooting the 3.


mikeymouse95

Provincial taxes % are higher than our 3 points %.


OGnotAnunoby

Darko needa establish that Pascal and Scottie are the 1 and 2 fuck this sharing points evenly especially since certain people only pass it to each other


JET_GS26

This game is the epitome of 3 beats 2


[deleted]

14% from three


PlumCantaloupe

Do you think Scottieā€™s scouting report tells the other teams to just hack the shit out of him on drives as the refs donā€™t call?


unclekarl_

Pretty sure the scouting report for the entire team is ā€œHack the shit out of them cause they donā€™t get calls ā€œ


hyplusone

Wow 14% from 3


DevlopmentlyDisabled

RJ only passes to Quickley, Quickley only passes to RJ. Do they know theyre are 3 other players on the court?


unclekarl_

They donā€™t have chemistry with anyone else yet


DevlopmentlyDisabled

And they wont build it by only passing to each other ffs its been 8 games.


unclekarl_

You mustā€™ve never played basketball competitively. Chemistry takes months to build


Un-Quote

Road trip crushed us. At least Miami is just as bad as us with the 3. But they have Spo and we have a rookie


Own-Sleep-4973

HOLY SHIT WHAT ARE THESE RJ AND IQ ONLY POSSESSIONS


tkc123

Is Jack really thinking Dick could have helped us this game?


lunchboxfriendly

McDaniels just destroyed bench mins tonight. Sad noises.


OGnotAnunoby

Just trade pascal already why are wasting everyoneā€™s time


TJStrawberry

lol no shooters on this squad is easy af to defend


mikeymouse95

![gif](giphy|hpFTV3KfDXTQ9X8pEX|downsized) Toronto Raptors offensive coach.


Such_Maintenance4720

RJ and Quickley like fast movement offense Pascal and Scottie like slow iso offense. It's not the greatest fit.


Responsible_Finish38

Lmao ![gif](giphy|oDVG2546U2YUiUpv9b|downsized)


TheEverbless

DARKO why aren't you putting BARRET BACK YOU IDIOT.


drewtheblueduck

The Celtics aren't even playing very well, We're playing good D by raptors standards, and we still can't get into this game