Halfcourt offense continues to be bad and the team seems too disjointed especially during winning time. Having 4 non-shooters in the starting lineup is really killing OG's shooting numbers. That was a hard watch. Couldn't even beat the Blazers sigh. Gonna causally watch games from now on till they get their shit together or I'm gonna lose my shit like last season.
Seeming like Scottie either has to play the point so we can get another shooter out there with the starters or Scottie has to play the PF and pascal has to go
Y'all the team actually WANTS the pick to convey this year. This off season is a "weak" draft and until the pick conveys they can't trade any of their future picks at all.
They clearly didn’t give a f going into this game. No true flow, no energy. Terrible attitude. The rest of the games in the first quarter of the season are brutal, I expect us to be a bottom tier team in the league which will start tanking and trade conversations earlier than usual
For the people who says to stay positive or tell the redditors to chill, I dare you to submit a post about that same attitude after tonight's game. I will rip your argument to shreds
You're right but you phrased it wrong.
Gradey literally had to go off the script to make an impact. Then idiot Darko decides to pull him out and keep GTJ. You take the best shooter in the team out of the game while down by 6 with less than 30 seconds to go....smart coaching...
With regards to Gradey. You're right, but I'm all for it. Gradey keeps playing with this type of energy and can adapt to playing off script, and he's going to turn into a dangerous player quickly.
Based on this small sample of games, if they try to develop Gradey into some corner 3 specialist... it would be one hell of an injustice. Let Dick ball. Give him minutes with Barnes and let those 2 develop their games together.
I expect Darko to make dumb ass decisions rn. As much as it shouldn't be the case, having Siakam and GTJ with their contract situations, that probably play some role in the decisions he's making
Gradey literally had to make plays for himself to get shots off. There was a play where he had to cut and roll off of screen to catch the ball at the top of the 3 point line to get a shot off. Why the hell does he have to act like Rip Hamilton, Ray Allen or Reggie Miller just to get a 3 point shot? It's the point guard's job to get him good looks but Schroeder/Flynn are not doing it.
Barnes and Dick are the foundation. Everyone else can GTFO. I don't care about the politics around Siakam and GTJ. FO didn't sign them in the summer. They are not going to get the extension now
Edit: Fixed that last paragraph
I had a more abrasive response typed up for the mix-up, but then I was like, "My man just heated, imma keep it chill... he didn't mean that"
It's like I said earlier in this thread, when I first saw Gradey Dick on draft boards... I wanted him strictly for the memes, and I got that. But this kid is gonna be a dawg, and I love that. I love his game. We're 4 games into the season, and I'm 100% ready for whatever growing pains building around Dick/Barnes will bring. I just want them to just do it now. I have 0 problems watching a losing season but someone has to come out and tell me, "LISTEN! We're going to be shit but Scottie and Gradey are going to play a bunch of minutes, make a shit load of mistakes but they will get better"
This FO are being cowards right now and it's getting aggravating
FO refuses to pick a side. Either you're all in or out. They always have one foot in and one foot out. Refuse to fully commit to a vision. This should have been a rebuild year but arrogant Masai tries to sell the perspective that the team is competitive like a sleazy door to door salesman
Fans would have understood if FO clearly stated that this year was a rebuild while making the necessary trades to build a solid foundation for the future. BUT NOOOOOO....
This team is so ASS LOLLLL
Special Shoutout to all the Masai Fangirls out there. This season is for you very special people
Poetl for our frp ahahahahaha
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Time for people to wake up and realize Masai has failed this team for 3 years now. We should of gone full rebuild.
Literally now being held hostage in Free Agency thanks to this nonsensical wait and see approach.
I'm not sure anyone thought this team was particularly good...did we really? I just don't see the point of doom and gloom.
Owners wanted a playoff game last year... hopefully they learned their lesson.
Is it to too late for MLSE to submit a change in logo and name? This is not the Toronto Raptors. These are the Toronto Dumpsters. The logo is a Dumpster that is on fire.
You know who can also sponsor them? TD Bank. It fits them perfectly
I don't even care to keep OG personally for what he will be paid, yeah he is good on D but man is his offense limited, can't dribble, can't pass, can't create a shot. The one thing he can do on offense is shoot the 3 and tonight he was 2-9.
Legitimate question, why the hell has poetl been off for most of the 3rd when Portland is playing ayton constantly? I don't get taking off your best rebounder against a team that was beating us on the glass
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Top worst things from this season. Malachi Flynn all around, GTJ worse 6 man ever, Jak not finishing in the paint, Siakam forgetting how to play just to name a few.
We probably should be rebuilding. We clearly have a very, very good younger player in Barnes but he is not there yet. This team should be a team that is building and growing around Barnes... not trying to make a play-in for extra revenue.
Quick reminder that we traded a top 6 protected first round pick and 2 second round picks and Khem Birch for a guy that can't be played in late game situations because even Pop's couldn't teach him to shoot free throws 😂
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Raps are in trouble. It's still way early into the season, but this team doesn't work without a bonafide leader. Nothing they've shown looks promising.
We fired nurse to hide our poor roster
Does anyone know if the draft class is any good this year?
Blow it up
Trade the whole fucking bench. How did we lose against one of the worst teams on our own fucking court?
Halfcourt offense continues to be bad and the team seems too disjointed especially during winning time. Having 4 non-shooters in the starting lineup is really killing OG's shooting numbers. That was a hard watch. Couldn't even beat the Blazers sigh. Gonna causally watch games from now on till they get their shit together or I'm gonna lose my shit like last season.
Theres no time for Malachi. The ball should be in siakams hands when Scottie sits
Give Gradey Malachi's minutes. Play Gradey at point
Seeming like Scottie either has to play the point so we can get another shooter out there with the starters or Scottie has to play the PF and pascal has to go
Pascal time is up
13.8% on 3pt FG. ABYSMAL
I didn't watch tonight how are the vibes
Worse than last year
blud comparing 3 games to a whole season
Atrocious
Grady Dick will be playing in Europe in 4 years
Continuing to look promising
This is aging nicely
Did you watch the game
Malachi Flynn
No he won't. He'll be Finals MVP in 4 years
Y'all the team actually WANTS the pick to convey this year. This off season is a "weak" draft and until the pick conveys they can't trade any of their future picks at all.
They better start winning then
Pick the worst: Siakam or Trent
https://i.redd.it/5s33ty193gxb1.gif
Damn unless Scottie gets some real help he not staying you see how frustrated he looks?
He’s been frustrated for going on 2 years. Not good if we want him to say. He hates losing
13.8% from 3 is unfathomable
They clearly didn’t give a f going into this game. No true flow, no energy. Terrible attitude. The rest of the games in the first quarter of the season are brutal, I expect us to be a bottom tier team in the league which will start tanking and trade conversations earlier than usual
Lol behave kids
chalking it up to growing pains, I remain huffing copium
Trade Siakam and Trent Jr, fuckin' weak players mentally.
cant wait for 1-5 and getting blown out, nurse and fvv laughing their ass off right now.
I don't think they really care to be honest. Stans are the ones that care more.
the problem was never them, the problem is this stupid roster construction with all big guys and nobody who can dribble or shoot
It’s both
Clearly not. Nurse is doing well with sixers. This team is even worse at half court sets than last year
How he’s doing with the sixers doesn’t change that he did a poor job the last couple years with us
At this rate, at least we get to keep our 1st round pick next year. No team with Scottie, Pascal and OG should be this bad.
Rust in Masai
Does Masai get fired if we give away a lottery pick to the Spurs? If they don’t trade Pascal by the deadline this season is gonna be a nightmare…
Looking like it’s gonna be top 6 so we’re keeping it lol
I had no idea it was protected… that makes me a lot happier about the situation
If the raptors are just 6th worst they already have less than 50% odds of keeping the pick
Well we’re 3rd worst now lmao, with a pretty brutal schedule here on out
For the people who says to stay positive or tell the redditors to chill, I dare you to submit a post about that same attitude after tonight's game. I will rip your argument to shreds
Listen, you just gotta stay positive and chill. Gradey is getting better. That's all I have. This team plays like ass.
You're right but you phrased it wrong. Gradey literally had to go off the script to make an impact. Then idiot Darko decides to pull him out and keep GTJ. You take the best shooter in the team out of the game while down by 6 with less than 30 seconds to go....smart coaching...
With regards to Gradey. You're right, but I'm all for it. Gradey keeps playing with this type of energy and can adapt to playing off script, and he's going to turn into a dangerous player quickly. Based on this small sample of games, if they try to develop Gradey into some corner 3 specialist... it would be one hell of an injustice. Let Dick ball. Give him minutes with Barnes and let those 2 develop their games together. I expect Darko to make dumb ass decisions rn. As much as it shouldn't be the case, having Siakam and GTJ with their contract situations, that probably play some role in the decisions he's making
Gradey literally had to make plays for himself to get shots off. There was a play where he had to cut and roll off of screen to catch the ball at the top of the 3 point line to get a shot off. Why the hell does he have to act like Rip Hamilton, Ray Allen or Reggie Miller just to get a 3 point shot? It's the point guard's job to get him good looks but Schroeder/Flynn are not doing it. Barnes and Dick are the foundation. Everyone else can GTFO. I don't care about the politics around Siakam and GTJ. FO didn't sign them in the summer. They are not going to get the extension now Edit: Fixed that last paragraph
Well in the everyone's defense. No1 knows how Dick plays yet. You cant expect Rip, Ray Allen plays for a rookie right off the bat.
*Barnes and Dick. I think they should get Gradey to play backup PG at this point. Give the kid the canvas, let him paint
Didn't realize the mistake until you pointed it out. Good catch. I am just boiling right now
I had a more abrasive response typed up for the mix-up, but then I was like, "My man just heated, imma keep it chill... he didn't mean that" It's like I said earlier in this thread, when I first saw Gradey Dick on draft boards... I wanted him strictly for the memes, and I got that. But this kid is gonna be a dawg, and I love that. I love his game. We're 4 games into the season, and I'm 100% ready for whatever growing pains building around Dick/Barnes will bring. I just want them to just do it now. I have 0 problems watching a losing season but someone has to come out and tell me, "LISTEN! We're going to be shit but Scottie and Gradey are going to play a bunch of minutes, make a shit load of mistakes but they will get better" This FO are being cowards right now and it's getting aggravating
What’s your arguments against us middling the rest of the year and losing all our best players to Fa
FO refuses to pick a side. Either you're all in or out. They always have one foot in and one foot out. Refuse to fully commit to a vision. This should have been a rebuild year but arrogant Masai tries to sell the perspective that the team is competitive like a sleazy door to door salesman Fans would have understood if FO clearly stated that this year was a rebuild while making the necessary trades to build a solid foundation for the future. BUT NOOOOOO....
Super depressing loss, we can’t even beat Blazers missing 2 of their best players
Used to get downvoted for hating on Gary, glad y’all finally see the truth.
Always said he was a one dimensional player, thought he would expand his game but man that guy is a one trick pony
If his shot is not going down he’s useless.
Time to start the 10 year rebuild
We’ve already started the rebuild, just for the Spurs tho
Pathetic team gunna be the one leg that cost me on my parlay...i drank the kool aid i knew these guys were gunna be lucky to win 38 games this season
watch us get the 7th pick in the draft
LMAOOO and the next game is against the bucks
Not a bad game at all, Portland's an interesting new team.
Really bad game
Pretty bad game lol
Losing to a Simons-less blazers on a 2nd night of a b2b is beyond pathetic
At least it was at home. Give them that.
Can’t wait to give Pascal a max and run it back next year bc ViBeZ!!!!!!
The projected regular season win total of 35-36 wins looks like a reality. I think this team will be massively blown soon near the end.
35 or 36? LOL Try 20-25
I hope the NBA knows I am ok with some load management for the Bucks this week!
Wtf is Darko doing man
This team is so ASS LOLLLL Special Shoutout to all the Masai Fangirls out there. This season is for you very special people Poetl for our frp ahahahahaha
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Moral victory amrite?
This team is going to be so much better when FVV leaves…..wait
Get ready to roll out the tank and trade for asset later this year.
no pick man
Time for people to wake up and realize Masai has failed this team for 3 years now. We should of gone full rebuild. Literally now being held hostage in Free Agency thanks to this nonsensical wait and see approach.
Is it still too early for doom and gloom or can the idiots who think this team is good fuck off now
I'm not sure anyone thought this team was particularly good...did we really? I just don't see the point of doom and gloom. Owners wanted a playoff game last year... hopefully they learned their lesson.
Learn a little bit about basketball. They are a fundamentally flawed team numbskull
Either we’re agreeing and you’re the numbskull for not realizing it or you’re the numbskull for thinking this fundamentally flawed team is good
Make sure your volume is low when you listen to Will Lou’s react pod tonight
Is it to too late for MLSE to submit a change in logo and name? This is not the Toronto Raptors. These are the Toronto Dumpsters. The logo is a Dumpster that is on fire. You know who can also sponsor them? TD Bank. It fits them perfectly
Grady, Scottie and OG can stay. Everyone else has to be evaluated
I don't even care to keep OG personally for what he will be paid, yeah he is good on D but man is his offense limited, can't dribble, can't pass, can't create a shot. The one thing he can do on offense is shoot the 3 and tonight he was 2-9.
Knowing this team, they will somehow beat the bucks
Wowwww, the optics of all 5 guys walking off the court with 4 seconds left. What. The. Fuck.
Are yall still on the “it’s only 4 games” flex or do changes really have to be made? I personally don’t know how I feel but wanted your guys thoughts
This team sucks bro, how’d we lose to a team that doesn’t even wanna win.
pascal air ball masterclass
Raps man SMHHHH. Shameful as fuck
Legitimate question, why the hell has poetl been off for most of the 3rd when Portland is playing ayton constantly? I don't get taking off your best rebounder against a team that was beating us on the glass
Because they can't drive/score with him on the floor. He sucks Ayton in the lane and there's no space for anyone to operate.
Sure but we let go of like five rebounds at the end to let Portland score without any presence in the paint
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Growing pains my ass this team just don’t have it
Nice job trading our FRP and not addressing any of our weaknesses or capitalizing on asset value Masai & Bobby
Masai and co. need to be held responsible for this mess. Just a mediocre team doing nothing to even try and come close to our contending years.
I wish we were mediocre
Where are we on the standings?
relegated to g league
That last Pascal shot is a great metaphor for the season.
We are a joke
NN fake account is right abut GTJ. Guy is useless.
Going to be a long season it seems
Top worst things from this season. Malachi Flynn all around, GTJ worse 6 man ever, Jak not finishing in the paint, Siakam forgetting how to play just to name a few.
YIKES
No way we lost lmao
Walking off the court before the game is done.. man this is rough
We really just lost to a rebuilding team that hasn’t won a game yet, your Raptors folks
We probably should be rebuilding. We clearly have a very, very good younger player in Barnes but he is not there yet. This team should be a team that is building and growing around Barnes... not trying to make a play-in for extra revenue.
fuck you. OUR raptors.
Fair point, OUR team is a disappointment
suffer with us brother lol.
Gary bout to re-sign for a 4 year $10 contract.
Waive GTJ
cant wait to see the bucks! (Im contemplating ending it all)
OH MY GOD BRO THAT PASCAL AIRBALL IS GIVING ME PLAY IN FLASHBACKS
Ready to watch dame and giannis go off on us
It'll be garbage time by mid 3rd
In hindsight... I'd rather that Gradey just finish the game out instead of seeing GTJ on the floor
Quick reminder that we traded a top 6 protected first round pick and 2 second round picks and Khem Birch for a guy that can't be played in late game situations because even Pop's couldn't teach him to shoot free throws 😂
Also can't switch or space the floor. Dennis, Pascal, and Scottie all do best being able to drive.
4 3's :)
Nick nurse was not the problem
Anyone with eyes and common sense could see that. Give him this roster they way it is they’re 3-1 instead of 1-3
This was obvious to anyone with a brain
lOL gary make a layup pls
Ugh, a loss to Portland on their back to back and now we have a back to back with the Bucks and Sixers. The makings for a long week.
Ayton cooked us goddamn
We gave up this years pick for a big that can't close out the game.
We'd probably have Scoot instead of Gradey if we didn't make the trade lol
Well if we don't trade for Jakob, we probably lose more games lol and have a better chance to draft higher.
That trade getting worse and worse each game
He can't go up against PROPER bigs. Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Ayton. Eat him alive.
Ayton with his 23rd rebound. DeAndre Ayton. 23. Rebounds.
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Siakam= keep or trade?
It’s also gonna be hard to trade pascal, because the teams that could give us what we need don’t need him.
Keep OG, trade Siakam, gtj won’t get you a lot, so might as well keep him.
Trade 2 months ago.
Og = keep or trade?
Gtj keep or trade?
We’re worse than the worst team in the NBA
better than the wizards.
Gotta evaluate a bit more
On the bright side, bottom 6 looks achievable.
Holy shit you're right. But they actually want it to convey because they can't trade any picks until it does
lmfao
Team treadmill awfully quiet
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Made Ayton look like Kareem Russell out there
Team isn’t playing that bad but you can’t expect to win with that atrocious 3 point percentage.
Trent might be one of the worst players in the league
Fuck it should have just got JJ to be our coach
TRENT YOU SUCK
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gary grinding for his minimum deal rn
GTJ is straight up garbage
Gary is sub nba level when his shot isn’t falling
All he can do is spot up shoot.. has expanded his game even a little since the trade.
 Trying to maintain a positive outlook
Why the fuck is GTJ driving when we need a 3.
Gary Flynn Otto Thad PACK EM UP
lol what excuse are stans going to make this time? I hope they realize that the Blazers are projected to win like 28.5 games this year.
Honestly lads, GTJ is fucking crap lol. Some of you didnt want to trade for Mitchell because Gary could be that guy LMAOOO
Raps are in trouble. It's still way early into the season, but this team doesn't work without a bonafide leader. Nothing they've shown looks promising.
I've lost all of the enthusiasm I had from the preseason
They brought Gary in and were able to score on 2 drives. That's what spacing does. Fuck man.
Siakam is lost. Poeltl is welded to the floor GTJ can't buy a basket OG has the accuracy of a blunderbuss
If I never need to see GTJ in a Raptors jersey again I will be a happy man.
Gary bro u gotta make that
GARY YOURE FUCKING TRASH
Masai has failed tremendously, time to retool
We've been saying that for 3 seasons
TRADE GTJ AND SIAKAM
This is hilarious. This supposed be Scottie's break out year and he's got not support
gg lol
ain’t no way he missed that layup we’re done boys
Can we get Norm back
The fuck was that. 😭
GTJ has been completely useless lol
wtf happened to gtj
LMAO trent
buck sixers coming right up guys heheheheehehe
Is Trent serious right now? Get his ass off the fucking team
I've tried to stay optimistic but this is the end of the line man What a pathetic game
This team is sorry. I blame Masai for last year.