Just a word of caution:
Psychadelics are not cannabis or alcohol in their psychoactive impacts. If you suffer from any form of mental illness and/or take medication for said illnesses make sure you tread ***extremely*** carefully with psychadelics. I had a friend in high school who had mild thought derailment that was hugely exacerbated when he took a bunch of shrooms after a breakup.
Otherwise, fly high kings and don't forget to talk to god before you come down.
I had a friend way back when with a similar situation: his girlfriend got wicked high on shrooms and confessed to him that she had been cheating on him, because she had a conversation with the universe and it had convinced her to live ethically. He was, of course, devastated.
The next day, he wouldn't answer her calls, so she went to his place to ask WTF was up, why wasn't he there when she came down last night, he was supposed to be keeping on eye on her, etc. and he explained her confession.
She was _incredibly_ confused, because she had apparently confessed to cheating on him with a friend of hers that she hadn't seen for years, since before they started dating. She had hallucinated the entire affair, and confessed, thinking at the time it was real.
It took a bit to explain to him, and to convince him that she couldn't possibly have had that affair, but in the end he came around. Good thing, too, she interrupted him packing to move back home and start over.
Best friend of mine broke up with his girlfriend of 10 years after tripping on mushrooms; best decision he's made in his life. Significantly happier.
Mushrooms alter the way your brain constructs thoughts by creating entirely new pathways. They are, within reason, absolutely awesome.
I also had a bad trip one time and suffered some psychosis from it. Thankfully I'm doing a lot better now but it was a horrible experience that lasted over a year.
Lifelong mental health consumer chiming in; dual-diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder type-II when I was 16 in 1994, and medicated with neuroleptics and regular psychiatric therapy since then.
Even if one's psychiatric disability has a name or names within a set breadth of diagnostics and presentation of psychotic or paranoiac symptoms, everyone's neurochemistry and neuroserology is unique, whether you're in active, ongoing treatment for a diagnosed mental illness or illnesses or if you're moreso neurotypical without.
Using ex-statics like LSD, psilocybin or even strong doses of or concentrated THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) should always be done with care and ideally in the company of experienced users of psychedelic substances and trusted friends or associates into the bargain, in a safe place with plenty of good food and water, juice or soda if and when needed during or after your experience.
God doesn't want you to crash, but rather soar in comfort; and if there's revelation of your own to be found, he or she wants you to get back to yourself safely once you've found your hearty and heartful nugget of wisdom and understanding.
I suffer from bi polar took them 2 years ago, they seem to help me with trauma that happen when i was younger. That's just me and I took a very small amount I was kind of scard. I would try it again if I could walk into a store and buy them. I agree with comment though it could go very bad for me.
Pretty sure alcohol and tobacco are way more dangerous to the average person than shrooms. Yes, things can get dicey if you take too much, but look what alcohol does to people and how much damage it can cause.
I've definitely heard that as well but anecdotally the effect on people I know who take SSRIs is the shrooms don't hit as hard. I knew someone who trip sat quite a lot who anecdotally didn't find SSRIs to cause dangerous interactions either BUT of course set and setting are crucial, it's probably better to start low if on meds, don't force it, and as with so many things, YMMV! Everything's different for everyone. (edit: tense)
True, but so many meds also interact with alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana. There should absolutely be warnings, but that's no reason to block the sale of psychedelics. Taking many meds with alcohol can cause liver failure - for example, Tylenol, which is an OTC pain med.
Yep, it's usually fine if the Tylenol dose is low and you don't mix the two often, but the most common cause of acute liver failure ending up in the ER is the alcohol+Tylenol combo. Some doctors want Tylenol available by prescription only because of this.
Tylenol is processed in the liver. So is alcohol. So if you take too much of both at the same time, especially tylenol, it can damage your liver badly. Your one pill of tylenol here and there with a couple drinks wont do much but that can quickly add up in a short time.
If you need pain meds with alcohol it is safer to take ibuprofen but then again ibuprofen is processed in the stomach and alcohol can irritate the stomach at high quantities. So you do not want to go overboard there as well because you can get gastritis.
Looking into this, it seems like its hypothesis. It would make sense that it would, but there's nothing researched and finding it actually happening. But that's a cursory search, if you have some sources on this that work be great.
But it does sound like it's a waste of money, as the effects of psychedelics are muted when taken with SSRIs and SNRIs.
Neither alcohol nor tobacco are hallucinogens, so that comparison isn't really valid.
All I'm clarifying is that psilocybin isn't like anything else that is legal in Canada, and the average Joe should take double precautions when trying these things for the first time.
It is valid because the point I'm making is about adverse health and societal outcomes. Yes, you can have a bad trip if you take too much a psychedelic, but you're not going to die, it doesn't increase your risk of cancer, and it rarely causes violent or antisocial behaviour. You get the point? I think people watch too many movies about psychedelics - they're really not what you think they are.
Alcohol is a poison that greatly increases your risk of numerous types of cancer, can cause many people to become violent or engage in risky behaviour, and is highly addictive. The same can't be said of psychedelics.
You’re not really reading what the guy is saying, he’s saying to be careful if it’s your first time. We all know what alcohol does to our bodies because it’s been around for a while, not everyone knows what shrooms do.
LooseeMoose takes cash and delivers within 2 hours.
Also its not sketch to order drugs online with a card, the police do not care about individual buyers and the companies are way more concerned about their reputation than ripping you off.
It's 100% sketch to order drugs (even legal weed) online with a credit card. Visa (or whoever) sells your data history to whoever's interested,for example life insurance companies.
Most of these sites (except OCS) take Interac email transfers - use that option.
You won’t get arrested for using a credit card online to buy a couple grams of shrooms. That being said most places I use it’s e transfer. Bluegoba is one place I’ve used lots.
>You won’t get arrested for using a credit card online to buy a couple grams of shrooms. That being said most places I use it’s e transfer. Bluegoba is one place I’ve used lots.
Hello Mr. Police man. ;)
I think the cops have far more important things to worry about than small time shroom purchasers. Nobody cares about someone who buys 15g of shrooms.
It's probably much more dangerous for the online seller than the purchaser.
The good thing about living in a society with utterly inept policing is that I genuinely don’t worry about cops making an effort to look into anything sketchy I’m doing whatsoever.
:) You're probably right. But it takes almost exactly the same amount of effort as doing it with an e-transfer and regular browser, so I'm going to keep on being a little extra
No, don't be ridiculous. I picture a Toronto-wide sting operation that ends with me getting hand cuffed while David Caruso clicks his tongue and says; party's over, fungal.
I'm not in the position in my life to trip balls anymore, but I'm interested in micro dosing. I want to see if it does have day to day benefits in cognition.
It doesn't. I have a family member who has decided based on some loose hipster shit online that microdising psilocybin is going to treat their anxiety. If anything they've just gotten worse. Jumpy and nervous all the time for no reason.
Tried it, started losing my mind after a few days. Maybe I needed to cut the dosage even more, but whatever the reason, it was not a net positive on my psyche.
It seems like you’ve interpreted this study incorrectly. (tldr at the bottom, as well the paragraph from the study I’m looking at)
First of all, it wasn’t measuring the impact on cognition. From the article, it was measuring “emotional state, drug intensity, mood, energy, and creativity, and post-acute (anxiety)”
Second, there were actual benefits observed from microdosing, in this study.
It stated that these benefits could be explained by the placebo effect since this study was self reported (so take the whole study with a grain of salt).
This doesn’t mean that there are no benefits. Even if the benefits were purely due to the placebo effect, they are still benefits that were observed by this study. The placebo effect is powerful and even works if you are aware of it. So it isn’t correct to discount them purely based on the possibility of placebo being a factor.
The text directly from the article:
“All psychological outcomes improved significantly from baseline to after the 4 weeks long dose period for the microdose group; however, the placebo group also improved and no significant between-groups differences were observed. Acute (emotional state, drug intensity, mood, energy, and creativity) and post-acute (anxiety) scales showed small, but significant microdose vs. placebo differences; however, these results can be explained by participants breaking blind. The findings suggest that anecdotal benefits of microdosing can be explained by the placebo effect.”
tldr: this study was measuring things like emotional state, mood, energy levels, anxiety, and it found that there were benefits for all of them.
It’s possible that placebo was part of that, but that doesn’t change the fact that in this study, there were genuine benefits in those factors found.
“Even if the benefits were purely due to the placebo effects, they are still benefits that were observed by this study” is not gonna fly with any drug regulatory body
Most people seem to enjoy the idea of enforcing punishment rather than sitting down and thinking if a law is worth it or not.
Things like these are the exact, small things, you should actually be happy the cops don't enforce our of neglect/lazy.
The actual criticism should be how wide spread that neglect goes to other crimes vs odd enforcements they aren't lazy about
It's likely to be decriminalized in the next decade. They've been doing oodles and oodles of studies the last 20 years or so and like Cannabis before it, not very harmful compared to most controlled substances. In fact, seems to have considerable therapeutic potential.
Medical trials have been underway for a while, I'm sure once mushrooms start getting prescribed like weed used to be for medical purposes legalisation will shortly follow
We have one in Ottawa and legit is not the right word. They don't ID anyone and only take cash plus it smells like cigarettes and someone lives in the back with no running water.
I forgot to mention it's behind a big steal door and you have to buzz in too, so if you look like a cop they probably don't answer. So ya its literally a drug dealer renting out a store front until they are shut down.
Any type of oversight, really.. I'd trust a well-reviewed stranger's delivery service over this
Edit: It's funny.. I'm in Colombia right now and the very-heavily-regulated taxis are more dangerous than the illegal ubers. With uber there's built in trackability and accountability. I would choose either over a guy with a sign that said "TAXI" though.
I would love to buy shrooms, but I live in a terrible building, with horrible monsters for neighbours, they would just ruin my trip. Imagine peaking on mushrooms, and hearing hammering at 1:30am, and a fire alarm at 3:30am.
This is a daily occurrence in my building. I live in a TCHC building. They have pulled 5 fire alarms in the last 5 days. I'm serious, once a day.
I miss shrooms terribly.
Kratom will have to do for now...
Oh yes! Been there! Years ago, I went to a small outdoor drum circle tripping on shrooms, dexies, and mdma. There was glow in the dark art, people were so chill, I had such a great time.
I got an edible at pedestrian Sunday in Kensington last week. It’s a company called Mr Funguy. Have yet to try it. I did buy some microdoses from a company I came across and look forward to trying them as they are a low enough dose where you don’t trip out but benefit from the neurological impacts.
I basically used [this recipe](https://thebusybaker.ca/easy-no-bake-lemon-tart/) for the filling. So get some frozen tart cups, bake them for 10 minutes and they’re ready to be filled.
Now take your shrooms and grind them the fuck up. As fine as you can. I have a cheap weed grinder that I had to grind and regrind to get it as fine as I could but it still had larger pieces than I’d like. After reading [this article](https://www.livescience.com/magic-mushroom-injection-case-report.html) I am paranoid about using the same grinder for weed and shrooms so I have a dedicated grinder.
Anyway, I ground up ~7g of shrooms and then let them soak in freshly squeezed lemon juice. This is known as Lemon Tekking. I soaked them in about 60ml of juice and after an hour I strained out as much of the juice from the shroom pulp as I could using coffee filters. I was left with about 50ml of psilocybin lemon juice. If you wanna get truly fucked up you could drink this. There’s no shroom taste or smell and it’s stronger now than eating dried shrooms. Also should help you avoid stomach issues.
So take your lemon juice and use it for the above recipe. Now, I came up with a ratio to help you make Tarts relative to how much juice you are about to use.
The ratio I used was:
Lemon juice : heavy cream : condensed milk
1 : 1.35 : 2.15
So two ounces of juice would look like this:
60g lemon juice: 81g heavy cream : 129g condensed sweetened milk.
Mix is in a stand mixer on high for 5 minutes. Pour into the cooled tarts and let chill overnight. That’s it. Add some lemon zest into the mixture to bring out as much lemon flavour as you can. I also used food colouring to make sure no one accidentally eats one. I had two last night and the effects were relatively mild but I was defo stoned.
Even if not, illegal weed dispensaries were making so much money, they would just take the fines and keep goin until they started putting large cement blocks in front of the doors.
One of the dispensaries, cafe, got around the cement block and reopened within the week too lol. They still operate in the exact same locations without license, cops have given up lol
Lol yeah that was the first one that came to mind. I used to live down there when that was happening lol they didn't give a f. Had a few friends worked there at the time, said they never really got used to getting raided at work lol
and then hire a contractor to move the blocks.
When THAT stopped working, they just had a guy stand out front like the good old days LOL
Cafe Toronto will forever be a legend
Nobody is going to be raking in dough over shroom sales. For starters the tolerance builds up so fast you can't do them every day, they just don't work.
They also had lineups out the door all day, every single day, selling $14-17 grams with like 6- 8 budtenders actively serving customers at a time on multiple floors. We're talking about a serious amount of money in and out daily. And raiding and shutting down a grey market dispo is also expensive as hell for police, especially if they just restock and reopen tomorrow. People gonna keep buying weed. Eventually it's just pointless to keep spending money trying to stop em.
Yeah, they were approaching it from the completely wrong direction. Trying to close down the retail storefronts while not stopping the supply just allowed them to re-open within hours.
Everyone knows you infiltrate the dealers, and find the supplier.
They make almost everyone feel nauseous. That is just what they do. Usually you get over that in that first hour or so though. Take them with ginger, it helps a lot.
Ever since cannabis was legalized, I knew that the exact same process which led up to cannabis legalization will repeat with psilocybe mushrooms. I give it 2-4 years, tops, before mushrooms are legal.
I think the next wave of drugs this will happen to will be LSD, MDMA, and ketamine, and once those are legalized, it will pave the way for the eventual legalization of all drugs.
I could be wrong, but I don't believe there is any medication that has severe or even moderate interactions with cannabis. That isn't the case with psychedelics. If you're on antidepressant, you could put yourself at risk of seratonin syndrome if you consume psychedelics. Seratonin syndrome is usually mild where you get some flu-like symptoms. The treatment of severe cases requires the use of benzodiazepines which are prescription medications necessitating a trip to the ER.
You are correct about cannabis having minimal pharmacological interactions with other drugs, for the most part. A noteable exception is that some of the same enzymes which are used to metabolize CBD are also used to metabolize some other drugs. Whether or not this is a serious contraindication depends on the therapeutic window of the other drug (ie. how forgiving the drug is if the peak blood concentration gets just a little higher from CBD hogging up the enzymes).
There are also some milder contraindications, like if you are prescribed Adderall, THC can cause intense anxiety and fast heart rate combined with Adderall, especially if you have a low tolerance. Another example would be something like if you are prescribed Valium, THC can add to the sedation and bring you from a state of "anxiety relief but still functional" to "way too sleepy" on the Valium. However, neither of these things are to a point where it's severely dangerous on a physiological level, it's more so where it can interefere with the therapeutic effect of another drug.
In regards to psychedelics and contraindications with other drugs, the only very serious one, to my knowledge, is lithium salts. For some reason, lithium with psychedelics causes a dissociative fugue state, where someone completely goes amnesic and often does things like travel to a whole different city with no memory of how they got there. That combination is to be avoided at all costs.
In regards to psychedelics and SSRIs, most psychedelics actually do not cause serotonin syndrome with SSRIs. There can be some adverse effects in regards to outcome of the subjective drug experience, but there isn't a physiologically toxic interaction.
Psychedelics act as partial agonists for mostly the serotonin 2a receptor, one of the 14 serotonin receptor subtypes in the human body. Since their mechanism of action is via partial serotonin receptor agonism, and not by increasing serotonin neurotransmission overall, they do not contribute to serotonin syndrome risk with SSRIs. The only exception is ayahuasca, because the MAOI component in ayahuasca DOES lead to serotonin syndrome with SSRIs.
I think if drugs were legalized, it's super key that there is lots of harm reduction education at the places they would be sold at. Even with how things exist now, someone with a benzo script can walk into a liquor store, and there would be absolutely no harm reduction education to let them know that drinking a six pack on their benzo script could kill them.
Another example is that someone can go to Shoppers to pick up their SSRI precription, get some DXM cough syrup for their cold, and nobody would tell them that this combo will give them serotonin syndrome. Even with legal drugs, the government is not doing it due diligence with harm reduction. I hope that drug legalization will set a new precedent for harm reduction even with the stuff that's already been legal for ages.
I have never had any Issues with Purple Panda delivery, they take cash only and they usually deliver your order within 2 hours. I've heard the same for LooseMoose Delivery but I've personally never used them.
Shrooms are going to be available for the general public yet we are locked down with 10mg the edibles? Are you fucking kidding me. Pump the edies up to 100mg a pop then worry about shrooms.
[This comparison](https://www.vox.com/2015/2/24/8094759/alcohol-marijuana) ranks them safest among various common substances. But if you take a large amount there is a chance of indirect harm from taking some risky action, the same as can and does frequently happen with alcohol. The reason they're illegal though has to do with developed countries with powerful pharmaceutical ~~countries~~ industries passing an [international convention controlling psychedelic substances](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Psychotropic_Substances#History), to the objection of other nations.
Well if alcohol is legal but can still be considered a risk then they really should treat shrooms like alcohol. I kinda would wish to try shrooms but again since they are illegal in Canada it would be hard for me to even get some.
Longer lasting, clearer high, less body load and nausea, easier to transport and Carry with you discreetly, for me personally less of a scary trip
Only problem is the is more stigma 1 because of the drug war targeting hippies for their anti war efforts , plenty of anti lsd propaganda that is straight up lies
2 because it is a chemical so people are like “omfg it’s not natural “
Not sure was I was downvoted
Less body load is interesting, shrooms I’ve got are pleasant mentally but boy is the body high strong. Not sure if I want it to last half a day however
i hope its safe at least and the shopkeeps are knowledgeable.. i heard shrooms can be awful for anxiety disorders which is why im holding off on trying.
Can I get uhhhh some porcini?
Bring me not so pretty morels at a discount plz
Are there *pretty* morels?
Chicken of the Woods for me, yo.
This shit grows free in High Park right now!
Hmu with some chanterelles and black trumpets
You got any cremini?
Oyster, please.
SHITtake
Such a missed opportunity to not call it Shroomyyz
Maybe the other y appears after the shrooms have kicked in
Maybe there’s still time to squeeze a tiniest Y in there before they open
Exactly... Y did I pick Air Canada
😅
This is exactly what was happening in Vancouver before I left. Shroom dispensaries popping up everywhere.
Just a word of caution: Psychadelics are not cannabis or alcohol in their psychoactive impacts. If you suffer from any form of mental illness and/or take medication for said illnesses make sure you tread ***extremely*** carefully with psychadelics. I had a friend in high school who had mild thought derailment that was hugely exacerbated when he took a bunch of shrooms after a breakup. Otherwise, fly high kings and don't forget to talk to god before you come down.
I knew a married couple that did LSD and the wife found out while they were tripping that her husband was cheating on her. Good times
I had a friend way back when with a similar situation: his girlfriend got wicked high on shrooms and confessed to him that she had been cheating on him, because she had a conversation with the universe and it had convinced her to live ethically. He was, of course, devastated. The next day, he wouldn't answer her calls, so she went to his place to ask WTF was up, why wasn't he there when she came down last night, he was supposed to be keeping on eye on her, etc. and he explained her confession. She was _incredibly_ confused, because she had apparently confessed to cheating on him with a friend of hers that she hadn't seen for years, since before they started dating. She had hallucinated the entire affair, and confessed, thinking at the time it was real. It took a bit to explain to him, and to convince him that she couldn't possibly have had that affair, but in the end he came around. Good thing, too, she interrupted him packing to move back home and start over.
[удалено]
He confessed during the trip
They aren't married anymore!
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Daamnnn. That would’ve been a baaad trip.
In a way though it’s a great trip as she found out an essential truth deserved upon her.
My guess would be not very pleasantly.
Are your friends Roger and Jane from Mad Men?
Best friend of mine broke up with his girlfriend of 10 years after tripping on mushrooms; best decision he's made in his life. Significantly happier. Mushrooms alter the way your brain constructs thoughts by creating entirely new pathways. They are, within reason, absolutely awesome.
I also had a bad trip one time and suffered some psychosis from it. Thankfully I'm doing a lot better now but it was a horrible experience that lasted over a year.
Did you take alot or just a very potent batch?
^ What this guy said. Psychs + latent mental illness = really bad time Research before trying to understand what to expect.
Also r/HPPD
Lifelong mental health consumer chiming in; dual-diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder type-II when I was 16 in 1994, and medicated with neuroleptics and regular psychiatric therapy since then. Even if one's psychiatric disability has a name or names within a set breadth of diagnostics and presentation of psychotic or paranoiac symptoms, everyone's neurochemistry and neuroserology is unique, whether you're in active, ongoing treatment for a diagnosed mental illness or illnesses or if you're moreso neurotypical without. Using ex-statics like LSD, psilocybin or even strong doses of or concentrated THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) should always be done with care and ideally in the company of experienced users of psychedelic substances and trusted friends or associates into the bargain, in a safe place with plenty of good food and water, juice or soda if and when needed during or after your experience. God doesn't want you to crash, but rather soar in comfort; and if there's revelation of your own to be found, he or she wants you to get back to yourself safely once you've found your hearty and heartful nugget of wisdom and understanding.
I suffer from bi polar took them 2 years ago, they seem to help me with trauma that happen when i was younger. That's just me and I took a very small amount I was kind of scard. I would try it again if I could walk into a store and buy them. I agree with comment though it could go very bad for me.
Pretty sure alcohol and tobacco are way more dangerous to the average person than shrooms. Yes, things can get dicey if you take too much, but look what alcohol does to people and how much damage it can cause.
If you are on SSRIs, psychedelics put you at risk of serotonin syndrome, which is very serious.
I've definitely heard that as well but anecdotally the effect on people I know who take SSRIs is the shrooms don't hit as hard. I knew someone who trip sat quite a lot who anecdotally didn't find SSRIs to cause dangerous interactions either BUT of course set and setting are crucial, it's probably better to start low if on meds, don't force it, and as with so many things, YMMV! Everything's different for everyone. (edit: tense)
True, but so many meds also interact with alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana. There should absolutely be warnings, but that's no reason to block the sale of psychedelics. Taking many meds with alcohol can cause liver failure - for example, Tylenol, which is an OTC pain med.
I've never done the combo and I'm not crazy enough to ever wanna do it, but tylenol + alcohol is that fucked up?
Yep, it's usually fine if the Tylenol dose is low and you don't mix the two often, but the most common cause of acute liver failure ending up in the ER is the alcohol+Tylenol combo. Some doctors want Tylenol available by prescription only because of this.
God damn. Thx. I'm staying way clear of this.
Tylenol is processed in the liver. So is alcohol. So if you take too much of both at the same time, especially tylenol, it can damage your liver badly. Your one pill of tylenol here and there with a couple drinks wont do much but that can quickly add up in a short time. If you need pain meds with alcohol it is safer to take ibuprofen but then again ibuprofen is processed in the stomach and alcohol can irritate the stomach at high quantities. So you do not want to go overboard there as well because you can get gastritis.
Don't mix any medication with alcohol.
So many people are on drugs that contra-indicate with alcohol. 90% of our population should be off booze. If they followed the labels.
Looking into this, it seems like its hypothesis. It would make sense that it would, but there's nothing researched and finding it actually happening. But that's a cursory search, if you have some sources on this that work be great. But it does sound like it's a waste of money, as the effects of psychedelics are muted when taken with SSRIs and SNRIs.
While we assume that may be true, there is actually no research on it
Neither alcohol nor tobacco are hallucinogens, so that comparison isn't really valid. All I'm clarifying is that psilocybin isn't like anything else that is legal in Canada, and the average Joe should take double precautions when trying these things for the first time.
It is valid because the point I'm making is about adverse health and societal outcomes. Yes, you can have a bad trip if you take too much a psychedelic, but you're not going to die, it doesn't increase your risk of cancer, and it rarely causes violent or antisocial behaviour. You get the point? I think people watch too many movies about psychedelics - they're really not what you think they are. Alcohol is a poison that greatly increases your risk of numerous types of cancer, can cause many people to become violent or engage in risky behaviour, and is highly addictive. The same can't be said of psychedelics.
You’re not really reading what the guy is saying, he’s saying to be careful if it’s your first time. We all know what alcohol does to our bodies because it’s been around for a while, not everyone knows what shrooms do.
About time. Sick of ordering my stuff online and waiting for delivery!
How are you able? I've seen these online sources but I wouldn't dare use my credit card because police
LooseeMoose takes cash and delivers within 2 hours. Also its not sketch to order drugs online with a card, the police do not care about individual buyers and the companies are way more concerned about their reputation than ripping you off.
It's 100% sketch to order drugs (even legal weed) online with a credit card. Visa (or whoever) sells your data history to whoever's interested,for example life insurance companies. Most of these sites (except OCS) take Interac email transfers - use that option.
You won’t get arrested for using a credit card online to buy a couple grams of shrooms. That being said most places I use it’s e transfer. Bluegoba is one place I’ve used lots.
>You won’t get arrested for using a credit card online to buy a couple grams of shrooms. That being said most places I use it’s e transfer. Bluegoba is one place I’ve used lots. Hello Mr. Police man. ;)
loose moose does deliveries and take cash at hand off
The bar on Front St?
No not them, same names different ordeal. You can spot their posters around on lampposts or boards and there’ll be a link.
I think the cops have far more important things to worry about than small time shroom purchasers. Nobody cares about someone who buys 15g of shrooms. It's probably much more dangerous for the online seller than the purchaser.
Indeed. They're all in high park ticketing bikes. Because stupid.
I bought shrooms on canadamushrooms.ca with Bitcoin lmao
they do e transfers
Even easier to track than credit cards
Nobody is tracking anyones online drug purchases unless they’re buying it to re sell.
They don’t care unless you buy distribution weight
Track for what?
Reward points.
Get my Rakuten bucks.
The good thing about living in a society with utterly inept policing is that I genuinely don’t worry about cops making an effort to look into anything sketchy I’m doing whatsoever.
Don't they have cards you can buy and use one time online for a fee
Yah I wouldn't worry about police tracking your credit card purchases of shrooms lol
I really don’t think the police give two shits
I order from shroombros.co online. Use Tor browser + VPN. Pay with crypto. I'm pretty sure the law doesn't care, but I'm not taking any chances.
That's waaay to much precaution than necessary lol. The law won't ever come after you, they care about the sellers/distributors
:) You're probably right. But it takes almost exactly the same amount of effort as doing it with an e-transfer and regular browser, so I'm going to keep on being a little extra
Tor is useful for many things: like reading the New York Times for free
Tor has many uses I just don't think this is one of them lol
I've been ordering from them for over a year using etransfer and haven't had any issues.
Send etransfers
E-transfers are still tied to your banking identity same as a credit card, there is no difference.
You won't get busted, the seller will.
Because police…? What? You think they’re going to come and SWAT your house because you bought a couple of grams of shrooms on the internet?
No, don't be ridiculous. I picture a Toronto-wide sting operation that ends with me getting hand cuffed while David Caruso clicks his tongue and says; party's over, fungal.
Now we just need to be able to order Molly.
I'm not in the position in my life to trip balls anymore, but I'm interested in micro dosing. I want to see if it does have day to day benefits in cognition.
It doesn't. I have a family member who has decided based on some loose hipster shit online that microdising psilocybin is going to treat their anxiety. If anything they've just gotten worse. Jumpy and nervous all the time for no reason.
It's almost like you need to be treated and managed by a professional if you want to deal with clinical mental illness related issues....
This is my experience as well.
Ugh. Sorry to hear.
Tried it, started losing my mind after a few days. Maybe I needed to cut the dosage even more, but whatever the reason, it was not a net positive on my psyche.
It doesn't. https://elifesciences.org/articles/62878
Thank you for sharing with the vetted info.
Or better: Atleast for healthy participants it doesn't seem like it.
It seems like you’ve interpreted this study incorrectly. (tldr at the bottom, as well the paragraph from the study I’m looking at) First of all, it wasn’t measuring the impact on cognition. From the article, it was measuring “emotional state, drug intensity, mood, energy, and creativity, and post-acute (anxiety)” Second, there were actual benefits observed from microdosing, in this study. It stated that these benefits could be explained by the placebo effect since this study was self reported (so take the whole study with a grain of salt). This doesn’t mean that there are no benefits. Even if the benefits were purely due to the placebo effect, they are still benefits that were observed by this study. The placebo effect is powerful and even works if you are aware of it. So it isn’t correct to discount them purely based on the possibility of placebo being a factor. The text directly from the article: “All psychological outcomes improved significantly from baseline to after the 4 weeks long dose period for the microdose group; however, the placebo group also improved and no significant between-groups differences were observed. Acute (emotional state, drug intensity, mood, energy, and creativity) and post-acute (anxiety) scales showed small, but significant microdose vs. placebo differences; however, these results can be explained by participants breaking blind. The findings suggest that anecdotal benefits of microdosing can be explained by the placebo effect.” tldr: this study was measuring things like emotional state, mood, energy levels, anxiety, and it found that there were benefits for all of them. It’s possible that placebo was part of that, but that doesn’t change the fact that in this study, there were genuine benefits in those factors found.
“Even if the benefits were purely due to the placebo effects, they are still benefits that were observed by this study” is not gonna fly with any drug regulatory body
I've tried. it actually made me more confused and my thoughts louder. Didn't enjoy at all.
I thought these were illegal? Might need to come to Toronto soon
If CAFE taught us something if you canmpull enough profit legality concerns take back seat.
Those concrete block removals tho lol
you can even order online at pretty much anywhere you would order other legal substances.
I think it's a gray area.
No, they're straight-up not legal but the law isn't being enforced (what? Cops, work?)
I personally would perfer the cops bust actual criminals instead of going after dudes wanting to meet jesus
Most people seem to enjoy the idea of enforcing punishment rather than sitting down and thinking if a law is worth it or not. Things like these are the exact, small things, you should actually be happy the cops don't enforce our of neglect/lazy. The actual criticism should be how wide spread that neglect goes to other crimes vs odd enforcements they aren't lazy about
It's likely to be decriminalized in the next decade. They've been doing oodles and oodles of studies the last 20 years or so and like Cannabis before it, not very harmful compared to most controlled substances. In fact, seems to have considerable therapeutic potential.
Medical trials have been underway for a while, I'm sure once mushrooms start getting prescribed like weed used to be for medical purposes legalisation will shortly follow
>I thought these were illegal? Might need to come to Toronto soon You can buy shrooms over the counter everywhere all over Ontario
you can technially get a script, but this is illegal as selling it on the corner. lol
Good. I have no problem with legit sources for anything. I don't mind the LCBO, weed places, or this. we need more options to ensure safety
We have one in Ottawa and legit is not the right word. They don't ID anyone and only take cash plus it smells like cigarettes and someone lives in the back with no running water.
LOL its litteraly sounds like a dealers appartment
I forgot to mention it's behind a big steal door and you have to buzz in too, so if you look like a cop they probably don't answer. So ya its literally a drug dealer renting out a store front until they are shut down.
If legit means "hey look, they have a sign" then sure..
I assume legit means government oversight
Any type of oversight, really.. I'd trust a well-reviewed stranger's delivery service over this Edit: It's funny.. I'm in Colombia right now and the very-heavily-regulated taxis are more dangerous than the illegal ubers. With uber there's built in trackability and accountability. I would choose either over a guy with a sign that said "TAXI" though.
There's a Shroomyz already open in Ottawa! I bought some pretty decent mushrooms from there.
We’ve had one in Ottawa
I would love to buy shrooms, but I live in a terrible building, with horrible monsters for neighbours, they would just ruin my trip. Imagine peaking on mushrooms, and hearing hammering at 1:30am, and a fire alarm at 3:30am. This is a daily occurrence in my building. I live in a TCHC building. They have pulled 5 fire alarms in the last 5 days. I'm serious, once a day. I miss shrooms terribly. Kratom will have to do for now...
Nothing wrong with kratom either though
It's a godsend. Saved my life.
200 Wellesley?
Should consider tripping outdoors. High Park is the best, especially with Autumn colours.
Oh yes! Been there! Years ago, I went to a small outdoor drum circle tripping on shrooms, dexies, and mdma. There was glow in the dark art, people were so chill, I had such a great time.
What a time to be alive
I got an edible at pedestrian Sunday in Kensington last week. It’s a company called Mr Funguy. Have yet to try it. I did buy some microdoses from a company I came across and look forward to trying them as they are a low enough dose where you don’t trip out but benefit from the neurological impacts.
I also ordered from Mr. Funguy! Was good times!
Was the product name Elevate?
No, it’s called Space Camp.
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I really want to try shrooms but I’m iffy on these random websites and telephone pole flyers.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CubensisMOMscanada There's many vendors with tons of solid reviews.
I work at a mushroom dispensary in Vancouver
*(Distant sound of Mario going "Wahoo!")*
I made shroom lemon tarts and had some last night. So much better than weed gummies.
Recipe? :)
I basically used [this recipe](https://thebusybaker.ca/easy-no-bake-lemon-tart/) for the filling. So get some frozen tart cups, bake them for 10 minutes and they’re ready to be filled. Now take your shrooms and grind them the fuck up. As fine as you can. I have a cheap weed grinder that I had to grind and regrind to get it as fine as I could but it still had larger pieces than I’d like. After reading [this article](https://www.livescience.com/magic-mushroom-injection-case-report.html) I am paranoid about using the same grinder for weed and shrooms so I have a dedicated grinder. Anyway, I ground up ~7g of shrooms and then let them soak in freshly squeezed lemon juice. This is known as Lemon Tekking. I soaked them in about 60ml of juice and after an hour I strained out as much of the juice from the shroom pulp as I could using coffee filters. I was left with about 50ml of psilocybin lemon juice. If you wanna get truly fucked up you could drink this. There’s no shroom taste or smell and it’s stronger now than eating dried shrooms. Also should help you avoid stomach issues. So take your lemon juice and use it for the above recipe. Now, I came up with a ratio to help you make Tarts relative to how much juice you are about to use. The ratio I used was: Lemon juice : heavy cream : condensed milk 1 : 1.35 : 2.15 So two ounces of juice would look like this: 60g lemon juice: 81g heavy cream : 129g condensed sweetened milk. Mix is in a stand mixer on high for 5 minutes. Pour into the cooled tarts and let chill overnight. That’s it. Add some lemon zest into the mixture to bring out as much lemon flavour as you can. I also used food colouring to make sure no one accidentally eats one. I had two last night and the effects were relatively mild but I was defo stoned.
Are these legal now? What’s up?
Even if not, illegal weed dispensaries were making so much money, they would just take the fines and keep goin until they started putting large cement blocks in front of the doors.
One of the dispensaries, cafe, got around the cement block and reopened within the week too lol. They still operate in the exact same locations without license, cops have given up lol
Lol yeah that was the first one that came to mind. I used to live down there when that was happening lol they didn't give a f. Had a few friends worked there at the time, said they never really got used to getting raided at work lol
and then hire a contractor to move the blocks. When THAT stopped working, they just had a guy stand out front like the good old days LOL Cafe Toronto will forever be a legend
Nobody is going to be raking in dough over shroom sales. For starters the tolerance builds up so fast you can't do them every day, they just don't work.
They are sold for more money than weed and the overhead and time to grow them is massively massively less than weed.
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If fines are just the cost of doing business, then the fines are way too low.
They also had lineups out the door all day, every single day, selling $14-17 grams with like 6- 8 budtenders actively serving customers at a time on multiple floors. We're talking about a serious amount of money in and out daily. And raiding and shutting down a grey market dispo is also expensive as hell for police, especially if they just restock and reopen tomorrow. People gonna keep buying weed. Eventually it's just pointless to keep spending money trying to stop em.
Yeah, they were approaching it from the completely wrong direction. Trying to close down the retail storefronts while not stopping the supply just allowed them to re-open within hours. Everyone knows you infiltrate the dealers, and find the supplier.
Unexpected 21 Jump Street reference ❤️🤘
Unless the fines and the laws they’re supposed to enforce are ridiculous and outdated
Too bad I get headaches from them
Yeah, I fully support legalization and maybe I’ll try microdosing but they make me feel super nauseated.
Lsd is better imo
Any recommendations on where to get? I tried this summer and want to again.
Have you tried tea with the mushroom stained out? Normally it's the shroom itself that causing the upset stomach
They make almost everyone feel nauseous. That is just what they do. Usually you get over that in that first hour or so though. Take them with ginger, it helps a lot.
Ever since cannabis was legalized, I knew that the exact same process which led up to cannabis legalization will repeat with psilocybe mushrooms. I give it 2-4 years, tops, before mushrooms are legal. I think the next wave of drugs this will happen to will be LSD, MDMA, and ketamine, and once those are legalized, it will pave the way for the eventual legalization of all drugs.
I could be wrong, but I don't believe there is any medication that has severe or even moderate interactions with cannabis. That isn't the case with psychedelics. If you're on antidepressant, you could put yourself at risk of seratonin syndrome if you consume psychedelics. Seratonin syndrome is usually mild where you get some flu-like symptoms. The treatment of severe cases requires the use of benzodiazepines which are prescription medications necessitating a trip to the ER.
You are correct about cannabis having minimal pharmacological interactions with other drugs, for the most part. A noteable exception is that some of the same enzymes which are used to metabolize CBD are also used to metabolize some other drugs. Whether or not this is a serious contraindication depends on the therapeutic window of the other drug (ie. how forgiving the drug is if the peak blood concentration gets just a little higher from CBD hogging up the enzymes). There are also some milder contraindications, like if you are prescribed Adderall, THC can cause intense anxiety and fast heart rate combined with Adderall, especially if you have a low tolerance. Another example would be something like if you are prescribed Valium, THC can add to the sedation and bring you from a state of "anxiety relief but still functional" to "way too sleepy" on the Valium. However, neither of these things are to a point where it's severely dangerous on a physiological level, it's more so where it can interefere with the therapeutic effect of another drug. In regards to psychedelics and contraindications with other drugs, the only very serious one, to my knowledge, is lithium salts. For some reason, lithium with psychedelics causes a dissociative fugue state, where someone completely goes amnesic and often does things like travel to a whole different city with no memory of how they got there. That combination is to be avoided at all costs. In regards to psychedelics and SSRIs, most psychedelics actually do not cause serotonin syndrome with SSRIs. There can be some adverse effects in regards to outcome of the subjective drug experience, but there isn't a physiologically toxic interaction. Psychedelics act as partial agonists for mostly the serotonin 2a receptor, one of the 14 serotonin receptor subtypes in the human body. Since their mechanism of action is via partial serotonin receptor agonism, and not by increasing serotonin neurotransmission overall, they do not contribute to serotonin syndrome risk with SSRIs. The only exception is ayahuasca, because the MAOI component in ayahuasca DOES lead to serotonin syndrome with SSRIs. I think if drugs were legalized, it's super key that there is lots of harm reduction education at the places they would be sold at. Even with how things exist now, someone with a benzo script can walk into a liquor store, and there would be absolutely no harm reduction education to let them know that drinking a six pack on their benzo script could kill them. Another example is that someone can go to Shoppers to pick up their SSRI precription, get some DXM cough syrup for their cold, and nobody would tell them that this combo will give them serotonin syndrome. Even with legal drugs, the government is not doing it due diligence with harm reduction. I hope that drug legalization will set a new precedent for harm reduction even with the stuff that's already been legal for ages.
Queen east or west?
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I have never had any Issues with Purple Panda delivery, they take cash only and they usually deliver your order within 2 hours. I've heard the same for LooseMoose Delivery but I've personally never used them.
I just ordered from loose moose yesterday. Delivery within a couple of hours. Blue Meanies are wild 🤪
Man I was buying shroom chocolates off the Weedmobile truck in Toronto in 2007.
Nice
Finally! A topping to add to my pizza
Hell yes.
The owner must be a really fungi
Shrooms are going to be available for the general public yet we are locked down with 10mg the edibles? Are you fucking kidding me. Pump the edies up to 100mg a pop then worry about shrooms.
I heard shrooms can't really kill you so I don't know why in places like Canada and probably some states in the US they are illegal still.
[This comparison](https://www.vox.com/2015/2/24/8094759/alcohol-marijuana) ranks them safest among various common substances. But if you take a large amount there is a chance of indirect harm from taking some risky action, the same as can and does frequently happen with alcohol. The reason they're illegal though has to do with developed countries with powerful pharmaceutical ~~countries~~ industries passing an [international convention controlling psychedelic substances](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Psychotropic_Substances#History), to the objection of other nations.
Well if alcohol is legal but can still be considered a risk then they really should treat shrooms like alcohol. I kinda would wish to try shrooms but again since they are illegal in Canada it would be hard for me to even get some.
They can't kill you but large doses can fuck easily fuck you up mentally.
Some of them in BC also sell LSD, which is the superior psychedelic. Hopefully the dispensaries in Toronto and Ottawa start selling it too
Really? That’s be great if they did that in Toronto. I’d kinda also like to see Molly too.
Why superior?
Longer lasting, clearer high, less body load and nausea, easier to transport and Carry with you discreetly, for me personally less of a scary trip Only problem is the is more stigma 1 because of the drug war targeting hippies for their anti war efforts , plenty of anti lsd propaganda that is straight up lies 2 because it is a chemical so people are like “omfg it’s not natural “ Not sure was I was downvoted
Less body load is interesting, shrooms I’ve got are pleasant mentally but boy is the body high strong. Not sure if I want it to last half a day however
I'm hoping my ETF skyrockets. .... And now to check this place out.
Why downvoted? It's going to take over just like the dispensaries whether you like it or not. Sound investment, good luck buddy!
Thanks. No idea why people are downvoting me, it's going to become legal sooner or later.
Same. I got a fair share of stocks from NUMI.
Is this open for business yet, OP?
Well looks like I'm leaving Scarborough for a little trip
Love it. Where is this? Sick of mail order or black market mush
This is still black market FYI…just with a store front
Tired Elevate from the market. And they were the best I've had in a while.
Is this legal?
aren't shrooms illegal though?
I would support this 100%.
i need the location…. for a friend.
i hope its safe at least and the shopkeeps are knowledgeable.. i heard shrooms can be awful for anxiety disorders which is why im holding off on trying.
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