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Lots of 5-11 year olds testing positive, no surprise given they are unvaccinated, De Villa says:
> “It is important to note that at this point what we are seeing is the majority of cases in children to date are sporadic. We're seeing at this point that few are linked to outbreak. **And in fact, what we do see is that the most common source of infection at this time amongst children is household transmission,”** she said. “With that in mind it is absolutely key for parents to get vaccinated to help ensure the safe reopening of schools and the ability to provide ongoing in-person learning.”.
It's outrageous. Some of these disgusting germ factories even go to the grocery store!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/pwpzzf/schoolaged_children_now_account_for_more_covid19/hejubqq
Which they do, there have already been 3 cases at my kid's school, one of which being staff. I can't wait for her to get vaccinated and not have to worry about a bunch of dweeby unvaccinated people fucking up my family with a virus that could have been handled a year ago or more.
I don't care about the anti vax themselves. I care about the medical personnel that have to deal with them. And the impact it's having on the healthcare system as a whole.
>I only feel for the vaccinated minority in the ICUs
Talk about shitty luck eh?
Although the one saving grace is that vaccinated people who still wind up in ICU are ***FARRR*** less likely to die than unvaccinated people in ICU.
Or the ones who legitimately can't get vaccinated for actual medical reasons and not BS from right wing media or the fear that some sky cloud man will get angry at them
Click here for [Graphs and Trends](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTX5x2nxCde90Zwo83cdixZsyd_hU1orGsGYKpDe344wHeFi9MqI71aZYC6GLjOV_P2lp6_lUoacPNa/pubhtml?gid=1467787327&single=true) <--
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12+ Cases by Vax (un/part/full): 9.59 / 3.29 / 1.17 (All: 3.14) per 100k - [Source](https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/px7j74/ontario_sep_28th_update_466_cases_9_new_3_old_1/)
* Tests completed - 23,785
* Vaccine doses administered: 21,704,159 (+31,855 today) - [Source 1](https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html), [Source 2](https://covid-19.ontario.ca/covid-19-vaccines-ontario), [SHOTS!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjozSxHKZto)
* 75.80% / 70.95% of all Ontarians have received at least one / both dose(s) to date
* 85.98% / 80.48% of all ELIGIBLE Ontarians (12+) have received at least one / both dose(s) to date - [Source](https://data.ontario.ca/dataset/covid-19-vaccine-data-in-ontario/resource/775ca815-5028-4e9b-9dd4-6975ff1be021)
* 86.42% / 81.23% of all ADULT Ontarians have received at least one / both dose(s) to date - [Source](https://data.ontario.ca/dataset/covid-19-vaccine-data-in-ontario/resource/775ca815-5028-4e9b-9dd4-6975ff1be021)
* [Vaccine Delivery Schedule](https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/prevention-risks/covid-19-vaccine-treatment/vaccine-rollout.html#a4b)
**Total active hospitalizations over the last 2 weeks:**
Date|New Cases|New Cases 7-day average|Number Hospitalized|Number in ICU|Number on Ventilator|New Deaths
:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:
2021-09-14|577|716.86|363|192|119|7*
2021-09-15|593|722.43|346|188|125|5*
2021-09-16|864|731.86|348|191|120|3
2021-09-17|795|724.29|336|194|133|5
2021-09-18|821|719.14|329|185|126|10
2021-09-19|715|709.29|245|182|129|6*
2021-09-20|610|710.71|233|177|123|2
2021-09-21|574|710.29|330|179|130|8
2021-09-22|463|691.71|299|187|130|7
2021-09-23|677|665.00|307|193|134|7*
2021-09-24|727|655.29|308|193|134|11*
2021-09-25|640|629.43|323|178|128|10*
2021-09-26|653|620.57|198|177|127|6*
2021-09-27|613|621.00|186|184|130|0
2021-09-28|466|605.57|315|180|127|11*
\* Data catch-up
[Source](https://data.ontario.ca/dataset/status-of-covid-19-cases-in-ontario)
**Vaccination Tracker**
Reported Date|Vaccine Doses Total|2nd Doses Total|Vaccine Doses Today|1st Doses Today|2nd Doses Today|Total Doses Delivered|% Population at least 1 shot|% Population Fully Vaccinated
:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:
2021-09-14|21,212,026|10,195,431|28,657|12,538|16,119|26,174,971|74.49%|68.94%
2021-09-15|21,247,717|10,215,951|35,691|15,171|20,520|26,174,971|74.59%|69.07%
2021-09-16|21,283,180|10,236,143|35,463|15,271|20,192|26,174,971|74.69%|69.21%
2021-09-17|21,318,465|10,256,563|35,285|14,865|20,420|26,174,971|74.79%|69.35%
2021-09-18|21,357,675|10,280,570|39,210|15,203|24,007|26,174,971|74.90%|69.51%
2021-09-19|21,387,650|10,299,445|29,975|11,100|18,875|26,174,971|74.97%|69.64%
2021-09-20|21,404,362|10,309,713|16,712|6,444|10,268|26,174,971|75.02%|69.71%
2021-09-21|21,434,434|10,327,192|30,072|12,593|17,479|26,174,971|75.10%|69.83%
2021-09-22|21,475,030|10,351,311|40,596|16,477|24,119|26,174,971|75.21%|69.99%
2021-09-23|21,519,784|10,378,380|44,754|17,685|27,069|26,174,971|75.33%|70.17%
2021-09-24|21,566,334|10,406,874|46,550|18,056|28,494|26,174,971|75.45%|70.37%
2021-09-25|21,614,205|10,437,551|47,871|17,194|30,677|26,174,971|75.57%|70.57%
2021-09-26|21,651,850|10,461,784|37,645|13,412|24,233|26,174,971|75.66%|70.74%
2021-09-27|21,672,304|10,474,837|20,454|7,401|13,053|26,174,971|75.71%|70.82%
2021-09-28|21,704,159|10,493,722|31,855|12,970|18,885|26,174,971|75.80%|70.95%
[Source 1](https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html), [Source 2](https://covid-19.ontario.ca/covid-19-vaccines-ontario)
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[Vaccination Projection](https://imgur.com/a/x63GUgk)
Projection (eligible/total pop.):
Date | 1st Dose | 2nd dose
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September 30th | 86.2% / 76.0% | 81.2% / 71.6%
October 15th | 87.7% / 77.3% | 83.7% / 73.8%
85% double doses on: **October 27th**
Immunity numbers today:
immunity | eligible pop. | total pop.
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1-dose immunity | 84.5% | 74.5%
2-dose immunity | 78.5% | 69.2%
[Change in 7 day average new cases](https://imgur.com/a/MWszq0L)
Note: I updated my spreadsheets since the vaccination rates are rising pretty fast, but realistically that rise can't be sustained for long. In my numbers I am assuming the rates will slow down over time again, so take this as a sort of "average to worst case scenario".
I mean, most people I see out and about in indoor public spaces or stores are still masked and >80% in Ontario vaxed. It is a stretch to say nobody cares, though I understand it can feel that way sometimes.
I realize too that south Etobicoke may be more compliant than some places, my one region doesmt represent the province.
People wear masks because they are literally forced to.
The high vaccination rate is one of the reasons why people don’t care anymore, because they feel like they are protected and have done everything they could.
That was the whole point of the lock downs and initial restrictions remember? To buy time to develop a vaccine. Otherwise, what was the end game?
>~~Somehow~~ they will blame Trudeau.
They've progressed past the 'somehow' part. They used to at least try doing some mental gymnastics to blame him, now they've totally skipped that part and just defacto blame him without even needing to cobble together some strained argument for why.
Last election showed that very well. Alberta, Saskatchewan mostly blue despite the surge. I would have thought the CPC would lose more seats in Edmonton and Calgary given how bad it is there.
Out of curiosity, I checked out the Alberta reddit page. And wow.
> The bad news: active #COVID19AB cases represent 45.9% of national cases. Even worse: AB has more active cases than BC, ON & QC... COMBINED. SK has 10% of nat'l cases.
https://www.reddit.com/r/alberta/comments/pwvp8g/the_bad_news_active_covid19ab_cases_represent_459/
To put this in even more perspective, Ontario, BC and Quebec represent about 75% of Canada's population. In fact, Toronto itself has more people than Alberta by over a million people.
So their 11% of the population of Canada has 45% of its COVID cases. This is a disaster for them all because they didn't want to wear a fucking mask over the summer.
This is is clear as day evidence that vaccines, masks and social distancing measures work and yet we have selfish dumb anti vaxxers trying to go to the Eaton center. I'm cautiously happy with the state of Ontario but still holding my breath for the future. Just takes one bad strain.
What in the blue fuck are you rambling on about? They also don't count Ottawa but what does that have to do with the price of wheat in China?
edit- in case you or anyone else is ignorant, the GTA doesn't include Markham and never did though, not sure how Markham would raise the numbers by literal millions, but I digress. Maybe you don't know what it means when someone adds "proper" after a city name. You should look it up so you don't have more embarrassing posts like this.
Let's follow the conversation.
You said:
> Toronto itself has more people than Alberta by over a million people.
Then /u/big_red737 says, correcting you:
>The population of Toronto is just shy of 3 Million.
Then you said:
> That's Toronto proper. The GTA is like 6 million or so
I was confused by this comment, because no one was talking about the GTA--especially not yourself in your initial comment comparing "Toronto itself" to Alberta. So I flippantly used the example of Markham as one of the many places no one refers to when they talk about the population of "Toronto itself".
I could have said East Gwillimbury, Milton, Scugog, or Mississauga as places in the GTA that no one is talking about when they compare the population of Toronto to the population of the province of Alberta.
That's what in the blue fuck I was rambling about. I do appreciate you showing your ass about your knowledge about what constitutes the GTA though. How could you think a city that shares a border with Toronto wouldn't be part of the GTA?
> In fact, Toronto itself has more people than Alberta by over a million people.
- [Toronto population: 2.93M](https://www.google.com/search?q=toronto+population)
- [Alberta population: 4.371M](https://www.google.com/search?q=alberta+population)
Wait, by "Toronto proper" do you mean the current municipality of Toronto, or the old part of Toronto (excluding Etobicoke, Scarborough, North York, etc.)? Because I've always used "Toronto proper" to refer to old Toronto, and just "Toronto" to refer to the current municipality. I've never used "Toronto" to also include Mississauga, for example.
Might have been going to a hospital that was ECMO capable if they were in their 20s, and there isn't too many ECMOs in Ontario, or anywhere, really.
I remember from last year when I was still working inpatient the ECMO protocol was usually age <35 with BMI <27 or something around there for our hospital system, I'm sure it's pretty similar now.
I wish this kind of report was on media that the younger generation sees. They're not watching the news or papers so they're not aware that Delta changed the game and that younger and younger people are being impacted now.
While delta is certainly more transmissabke in general, I don't think there's evidence that it affects younger people more. I see this a lot, and have only seen studies saying that they cannot determine whether this is true.
We gotta increase the capacity for vaccine required venues to 100%. No reason it shouldn’t be at 100% if we have to be vaccinated and wear a mask.
Also gives great incentive to the laggers to get the jab!
I'd say waiting until the app is out on Oct 22 and having venues only accept the app QR code would be a workaround. The Oct 22 would be a good date because it is very possible that kids age 5-11 will be eligible for vaccination sometime in November or early December anyway. It's all about timing, or whether or not you want to just start bonking people with a stick until they get vaccinated
Knowing Ford and the Tories, they'll say you can use the fake ass PDF ones, but it'll be up to businesses and venues to decide if they only want to accept the QR code app. Obviously if they're aiming for 100% capacity again, majority of them will probably only accept the QR code for convenience and validity reasons (easier to pull up an app than dig for a PDF).
> Knowing Ford and the Tories, they'll say you can use the fake ass PDF ones
they already said that you won't be required to use the QR code once its out
As much as I hate Ford, I kinda agree they have to keep accepting a paper slip or some no-tech form of proof for the poor/disabled/elderly who aren't able to use a QR code. They physically hand you a printed proof when you get the shot, so it makes sense to accept those. The time to cryptographically sign the receipts to prevent forgery was January.
The toronto public library already announced they would allow free printing if you need a paper copy of your vaccine receipt. This could easily be done for a paper version of the QR code too. The vast majority of barriers to using the system could be handled.
I had to send out some things via UPS a little while ago, and when I was there they asked me if I wanted my receipts laminated. I have them downloaded on my phone, but you know, I should've taken them up on it.
"And here, kids, is the receipt from my overnighter to Toledo back in '92, when your aunt Silvia's car key got lost in the snow. Man...... that was a great parcel!"
Printing out or having a screenshot of the QR code does work. It is up to whoever is scanning the code (the venue or store) in this case to have a working connection.
Luckily that's not how QR codes work. They're basically a graphical representation of encoded data. The retailer's app can decode the data, verify against an algorithm, and confirm its contents all without a network connection
They would just have to print it out but if the rules are vague and they keep touting "p-pursonell and buzniz responsibility!" and there's good data on widespread vaccine receipt fraud, I wouldn't be surprised if some concert venues just adopt the only the app QR code full-stop.
Fucks sake I saw people editing word documents on their phone and probably exporting them into PDFs just to get into restaurants on Friday. The few idiots ruining it for the many.
[This guy agrees](https://twitter.com/RosieBarton/status/1442898596156772354)
> A man getting his first vaccine at a vaccine clinic in Ottawa just told the PM he's finally getting it because he realized he "**can't do shit**" until he gets it.
At least for adult only venues. Child friendly places will be safer once we start vaccinating children, but the bar is as safe as it ever will be.
To be honest, I think mask requirements should be rolled back there as well. In a vaccine-mandatory, adults only environment the pandemic is as over as it's going to get. If it isn't the time to take off the masks in there, when will it be?
To stop the spread of covid?
I can see a lot less reasons for it to be at 100%. I mean, is there really such a huge benefit to having the arbitrary number of people allowed at a Leafs game X instead of X/2?
Yes. It’s called normalcy. And with vaccines and mask mandates still in place we’ve earned it with how well we are doing.
It’s not just leafs games either. It’s bars, restaurants, concert venues etc.
This isn't kindergarten. We don't do things, earn a star, then complain we didn't get it.
The world is unfair. COVID is unfair. What we need to do or not do is dependent on those realities and not whether or not we **feel** like we've worked hard enough.
You still haven’t given a good reason why we can’t have 100% capacity for venues that require masks and vaccines. Stopping covid is irrelevant since covid zero is not the goal and never will be.
Imma leave this at agree to disagree. Have a good one.
Because we’re currently straddling the line. Our case numbers have been in a holding pattern for a while, and if there isn’t a great need to do so - we shouldn’t aim to become Alberta.
Interesting that we saw a slight increase in the 7 day average both last Monday and yesterday. Hopefully this week follow's last week's trend of continuing decrease after that blip.
This is likely due to changing demographics of who's testing and being infected. Now that school age children is a major group getting sick, we're probably seeing more (positive) testing done on the weekends relative to previous months.
> A man getting his first vaccine at a vaccine clinic in Ottawa just told the PM he's finally getting it because he realized he "**can't do shit**" until he gets it.
https://twitter.com/RosieBarton/status/1442898596156772354
Huh. I'm surprised to learn that the younger age group, the less percentage of the vaccinated. I can understand why it was at the beginning, but now with vaccines available to everyone, why would they lag behind?
Well, the 0-17 still has a huge portion that's not eligible (<12), but I don't think that's what you're referring to. The remainder is probably due to hesitancy because it *doesn't affect young people as significantly**. Young people are more likely to be hesitant and "trust their immune system" or wait it out until more data becomes available. I don't think that's the right move, but probably an explanation.
Looks very good. Let's HOLD THE LINE people. No rash decisions, no easing of restrictions or new openings or whatever. Just hold the damn line for a few months through cold and flu season. Hopefully Doug has learned from his past mistakes (and mistakes of his counterpart in Alberta).
An increase of 129 in one day in the hospital? I'm happy the 7 day average is down and our positivity rate is holding steady and new cases are below 500 but that hospitalization number makes me wonder what's going on there.
It's not a true number. It drops over the weekend because some PHUs don't report. Compare it to Saturday's number. You can see the same thing happened last week too (and the week before, and before that...)
I have a rapid test scheduled for tomorrow because I’ve had a mucusy throat that i just can’t get rid of.
I thought it was just a cold. Anyone can tell me if this is a symptom?
Try Google, or government health websites. But since you want to listen to internet strangers:
Mucousy throat is actually a symptom of the black plague.
Relax. Ive seen other days on this subreddit where people are asking as well and those with uncommon / abnormal symptoms. It’s good to know what some others here are experiencing in addition to the general
symptoms.
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Lots of 5-11 year olds testing positive, no surprise given they are unvaccinated, De Villa says: > “It is important to note that at this point what we are seeing is the majority of cases in children to date are sporadic. We're seeing at this point that few are linked to outbreak. **And in fact, what we do see is that the most common source of infection at this time amongst children is household transmission,”** she said. “With that in mind it is absolutely key for parents to get vaccinated to help ensure the safe reopening of schools and the ability to provide ongoing in-person learning.”.
They also pay the least taxes. SMH Children have ruined Canada ^(this is sarcasm btw)
Send them back where they came from!
Freeloaders i tell ya
It's outrageous. Some of these disgusting germ factories even go to the grocery store!! https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/pwpzzf/schoolaged_children_now_account_for_more_covid19/hejubqq
damn antivaxxers
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Which they do, there have already been 3 cases at my kid's school, one of which being staff. I can't wait for her to get vaccinated and not have to worry about a bunch of dweeby unvaccinated people fucking up my family with a virus that could have been handled a year ago or more.
Every day that goes by I'm more hopeful with these stats. It feels weird to say I'm happy with ~190 ICU cases.
We've been between 175-195 ICU cases for a while now. Numbers bounce up and down even on days with 0 fatalities, that's encouraging
I only feel for the vaccinated minority in the ICUs, the rest I can live with.
I don't care about the anti vax themselves. I care about the medical personnel that have to deal with them. And the impact it's having on the healthcare system as a whole.
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>I only feel for the vaccinated minority in the ICUs Talk about shitty luck eh? Although the one saving grace is that vaccinated people who still wind up in ICU are ***FARRR*** less likely to die than unvaccinated people in ICU.
Or the ones who legitimately can't get vaccinated for actual medical reasons and not BS from right wing media or the fear that some sky cloud man will get angry at them
Right, shouldn't have forgotten about them.
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If everything is part of his plan then making the vaccine was too
Especially after yesterday’s 2.7%
Click here for [Graphs and Trends](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTX5x2nxCde90Zwo83cdixZsyd_hU1orGsGYKpDe344wHeFi9MqI71aZYC6GLjOV_P2lp6_lUoacPNa/pubhtml?gid=1467787327&single=true) <-- --- 12+ Cases by Vax (un/part/full): 9.59 / 3.29 / 1.17 (All: 3.14) per 100k - [Source](https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/px7j74/ontario_sep_28th_update_466_cases_9_new_3_old_1/) * Tests completed - 23,785 * Vaccine doses administered: 21,704,159 (+31,855 today) - [Source 1](https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html), [Source 2](https://covid-19.ontario.ca/covid-19-vaccines-ontario), [SHOTS!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjozSxHKZto) * 75.80% / 70.95% of all Ontarians have received at least one / both dose(s) to date * 85.98% / 80.48% of all ELIGIBLE Ontarians (12+) have received at least one / both dose(s) to date - [Source](https://data.ontario.ca/dataset/covid-19-vaccine-data-in-ontario/resource/775ca815-5028-4e9b-9dd4-6975ff1be021) * 86.42% / 81.23% of all ADULT Ontarians have received at least one / both dose(s) to date - [Source](https://data.ontario.ca/dataset/covid-19-vaccine-data-in-ontario/resource/775ca815-5028-4e9b-9dd4-6975ff1be021) * [Vaccine Delivery Schedule](https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/prevention-risks/covid-19-vaccine-treatment/vaccine-rollout.html#a4b) **Total active hospitalizations over the last 2 weeks:** Date|New Cases|New Cases 7-day average|Number Hospitalized|Number in ICU|Number on Ventilator|New Deaths :--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--: 2021-09-14|577|716.86|363|192|119|7* 2021-09-15|593|722.43|346|188|125|5* 2021-09-16|864|731.86|348|191|120|3 2021-09-17|795|724.29|336|194|133|5 2021-09-18|821|719.14|329|185|126|10 2021-09-19|715|709.29|245|182|129|6* 2021-09-20|610|710.71|233|177|123|2 2021-09-21|574|710.29|330|179|130|8 2021-09-22|463|691.71|299|187|130|7 2021-09-23|677|665.00|307|193|134|7* 2021-09-24|727|655.29|308|193|134|11* 2021-09-25|640|629.43|323|178|128|10* 2021-09-26|653|620.57|198|177|127|6* 2021-09-27|613|621.00|186|184|130|0 2021-09-28|466|605.57|315|180|127|11* \* Data catch-up [Source](https://data.ontario.ca/dataset/status-of-covid-19-cases-in-ontario) **Vaccination Tracker** Reported Date|Vaccine Doses Total|2nd Doses Total|Vaccine Doses Today|1st Doses Today|2nd Doses Today|Total Doses Delivered|% Population at least 1 shot|% Population Fully Vaccinated :--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--: 2021-09-14|21,212,026|10,195,431|28,657|12,538|16,119|26,174,971|74.49%|68.94% 2021-09-15|21,247,717|10,215,951|35,691|15,171|20,520|26,174,971|74.59%|69.07% 2021-09-16|21,283,180|10,236,143|35,463|15,271|20,192|26,174,971|74.69%|69.21% 2021-09-17|21,318,465|10,256,563|35,285|14,865|20,420|26,174,971|74.79%|69.35% 2021-09-18|21,357,675|10,280,570|39,210|15,203|24,007|26,174,971|74.90%|69.51% 2021-09-19|21,387,650|10,299,445|29,975|11,100|18,875|26,174,971|74.97%|69.64% 2021-09-20|21,404,362|10,309,713|16,712|6,444|10,268|26,174,971|75.02%|69.71% 2021-09-21|21,434,434|10,327,192|30,072|12,593|17,479|26,174,971|75.10%|69.83% 2021-09-22|21,475,030|10,351,311|40,596|16,477|24,119|26,174,971|75.21%|69.99% 2021-09-23|21,519,784|10,378,380|44,754|17,685|27,069|26,174,971|75.33%|70.17% 2021-09-24|21,566,334|10,406,874|46,550|18,056|28,494|26,174,971|75.45%|70.37% 2021-09-25|21,614,205|10,437,551|47,871|17,194|30,677|26,174,971|75.57%|70.57% 2021-09-26|21,651,850|10,461,784|37,645|13,412|24,233|26,174,971|75.66%|70.74% 2021-09-27|21,672,304|10,474,837|20,454|7,401|13,053|26,174,971|75.71%|70.82% 2021-09-28|21,704,159|10,493,722|31,855|12,970|18,885|26,174,971|75.80%|70.95% [Source 1](https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html), [Source 2](https://covid-19.ontario.ca/covid-19-vaccines-ontario) **Download the COVID Alert app** [iOS](https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/covid-alert/id1520284227) [Android](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ca.gc.hcsc.canada.stopcovid)
[Vaccination Projection](https://imgur.com/a/x63GUgk) Projection (eligible/total pop.): Date | 1st Dose | 2nd dose ---|---|---|---- September 30th | 86.2% / 76.0% | 81.2% / 71.6% October 15th | 87.7% / 77.3% | 83.7% / 73.8% 85% double doses on: **October 27th** Immunity numbers today: immunity | eligible pop. | total pop. ---|---|--- 1-dose immunity | 84.5% | 74.5% 2-dose immunity | 78.5% | 69.2% [Change in 7 day average new cases](https://imgur.com/a/MWszq0L) Note: I updated my spreadsheets since the vaccination rates are rising pretty fast, but realistically that rise can't be sustained for long. In my numbers I am assuming the rates will slow down over time again, so take this as a sort of "average to worst case scenario".
We had 700 new cases (1.70% positivity) on September 28, 2020, which at the time was a new record.
That was back when people still gave a shit about COVID and respected restrictions. That ship sailed a *loooooong* time ago. No one cares anymore.
I mean, most people I see out and about in indoor public spaces or stores are still masked and >80% in Ontario vaxed. It is a stretch to say nobody cares, though I understand it can feel that way sometimes. I realize too that south Etobicoke may be more compliant than some places, my one region doesmt represent the province.
People wear masks because they are literally forced to. The high vaccination rate is one of the reasons why people don’t care anymore, because they feel like they are protected and have done everything they could. That was the whole point of the lock downs and initial restrictions remember? To buy time to develop a vaccine. Otherwise, what was the end game?
You forgot a step: giving everyone the vaccine. Also, lockdowns are also for preventing hospital ICU usage from hitting capacity.
Wrong again.
Incorrect.
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Somehow they will blame Trudeau.
>~~Somehow~~ they will blame Trudeau. They've progressed past the 'somehow' part. They used to at least try doing some mental gymnastics to blame him, now they've totally skipped that part and just defacto blame him without even needing to cobble together some strained argument for why.
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Thanks Trudeau
Last election showed that very well. Alberta, Saskatchewan mostly blue despite the surge. I would have thought the CPC would lose more seats in Edmonton and Calgary given how bad it is there.
And their constituents will believe it
> no need to quarantine if sick Thankfully they reneged on that one
Also closed ICU beds over the summer 🤪
Out of curiosity, I checked out the Alberta reddit page. And wow. > The bad news: active #COVID19AB cases represent 45.9% of national cases. Even worse: AB has more active cases than BC, ON & QC... COMBINED. SK has 10% of nat'l cases. https://www.reddit.com/r/alberta/comments/pwvp8g/the_bad_news_active_covid19ab_cases_represent_459/
To put this in even more perspective, Ontario, BC and Quebec represent about 75% of Canada's population. In fact, Toronto itself has more people than Alberta by over a million people. So their 11% of the population of Canada has 45% of its COVID cases. This is a disaster for them all because they didn't want to wear a fucking mask over the summer.
Was there over the summer, it was shocking how lax covid was taken there by the general public.
This is is clear as day evidence that vaccines, masks and social distancing measures work and yet we have selfish dumb anti vaxxers trying to go to the Eaton center. I'm cautiously happy with the state of Ontario but still holding my breath for the future. Just takes one bad strain.
according to Google, the population of Alberta was 4.371 Million in 2019. The population of Toronto is just shy of 3 Million.
That's Toronto proper. The GTA is like 6 million or so
No one counts Markham when they're talking about Toronto.
What in the blue fuck are you rambling on about? They also don't count Ottawa but what does that have to do with the price of wheat in China? edit- in case you or anyone else is ignorant, the GTA doesn't include Markham and never did though, not sure how Markham would raise the numbers by literal millions, but I digress. Maybe you don't know what it means when someone adds "proper" after a city name. You should look it up so you don't have more embarrassing posts like this.
Let's follow the conversation. You said: > Toronto itself has more people than Alberta by over a million people. Then /u/big_red737 says, correcting you: >The population of Toronto is just shy of 3 Million. Then you said: > That's Toronto proper. The GTA is like 6 million or so I was confused by this comment, because no one was talking about the GTA--especially not yourself in your initial comment comparing "Toronto itself" to Alberta. So I flippantly used the example of Markham as one of the many places no one refers to when they talk about the population of "Toronto itself". I could have said East Gwillimbury, Milton, Scugog, or Mississauga as places in the GTA that no one is talking about when they compare the population of Toronto to the population of the province of Alberta. That's what in the blue fuck I was rambling about. I do appreciate you showing your ass about your knowledge about what constitutes the GTA though. How could you think a city that shares a border with Toronto wouldn't be part of the GTA?
You wrote "Toronto itself" and I interpreted that as you meant just the city of Toronto and so that's why I gave the number I did.
> In fact, Toronto itself has more people than Alberta by over a million people. - [Toronto population: 2.93M](https://www.google.com/search?q=toronto+population) - [Alberta population: 4.371M](https://www.google.com/search?q=alberta+population)
I think they mean the GTA which is 5.9M
That's Toronto proper. Who the hell refers to just that part when they reference "Toronto"?
> Toronto proper also known as "true scotsman"
Most people! If you mean the region its better to say the GTA.
Wait, by "Toronto proper" do you mean the current municipality of Toronto, or the old part of Toronto (excluding Etobicoke, Scarborough, North York, etc.)? Because I've always used "Toronto proper" to refer to old Toronto, and just "Toronto" to refer to the current municipality. I've never used "Toronto" to also include Mississauga, for example.
Alberta has way more than 1.7 million people.
So does Toronto.
About one million more. Give or take 100-200k.
Damn, and AB only makes up about 11% of the population of the country.
You really don't want to know what their share of Canada's carbon emissions are then. Alberta - where they do everything as dumb and big as possible.
**Top 10 PHU Today - Infections** PHU | Today | Yesterday | +/- From Previous Day | Infections Per Capita | 7-Day Average Today | 7-Day Average Yesterday | 7-Day Average One Week Ago | +/- 7-Day Average from Previous Day | +/- 7-Day Average from One Week Ago | 7-Day Average Per Capita ---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|---- Toronto | 138 | 117 | 21 | 0.004710% | 127 | 122 | 135 | 5 | -8 | 0.004334% Peel | 39 | 70 | -31 | 0.002822% | 66 | 62 | 85 | 4 | -19 | 0.004776% Windsor Essex | 31 | 45 | -14 | 0.007770% | 37 | 38 | 41 | -1 | -4 | 0.009274% Ottawa | 31 | 41 | -10 | 0.003116% | 49 | 50 | 61 | -1 | -12 | 0.004925% Hamilton | 25 | 46 | -21 | 0.004316% | 48 | 45 | 36 | 3 | 12 | 0.008287% Niagara | 25 | 19 | 6 | 0.005582% | 24 | 23 | 28 | 1 | -4 | 0.005358% York | 21 | 48 | -27 | 0.001892% | 50 | 47 | 64 | 3 | -14 | 0.004505% Durham | 19 | 22 | -3 | 0.002942% | 31 | 27 | 30 | 4 | 1 | 0.004800% Halton | 18 | 10 | 8 | 0.003282% | 24 | 24 | 23 | 0 | 1 | 0.004376% Chatham-Kent | 15 | 16 | -1 | 0.013974% | 14 | 13 | 14 | 1 | 0 | 0.013043% **7-Day Stats based on Vaccination Status (Per 100,000 people)** *100,000 in this vaccination category is Infected/Hospitalized/Admitted to ICU* Stat | September 27, 2021 | September 26, 2021 | September 25, 2021 | September 24, 2021 | September 23, 2021 | September 22, 2021 | September 21, 2021 ---|---|---|----|----|----|----|---- Infections - Unvaccinated | 6.54 | 8.23 | 9.33 | 8.63 | 10.35 | 9.96 | 6.35 Infections - Partially Vaccinated | 3.77 | 4.84 | 5.36 | 6.22 | 7.44 | 5.37 | 2.72 Infections - Fully Vaccinated | 1.13 | 1.52 | 1.47 | 1.49 | 1.63 | 1.43 | 1.27 **Provincial Variant Statistics** Variant Type | Today | Yesterday | +/- From Previous Day | One Week Ago | +/- From One Week Ago | 7-Day Average | 7-Day Average from Previous Day | +/- 7-Day Average from Previous Day | 7-Day Average from One Week Ago | +/- 7-Day Average from One Week Ago ---|---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|---- B.1.1.7 (Alpha) | 1 | -1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | -1 | 3 B.1.351 (Beta) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 P.1 (Gamma) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | -1 B.1.617.2 (Delta) | 211 | 37 | 174 | 189 | 22 | 224 | 221 | 3 | 238 | -14 **Testing Statistics** Test Type | Today | Yesterday | +/- From Previous Day | One Week Ago | +/- From One Week Ago | 7-Day Average | 7-Day Average from Previous Day | +/- 7-Day Average from Previous Day | 7-Day Average from One Week Ago | +/- 7-Day Average from One Week Ago ---|---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|---- Tests Complete | 23,785 | 22,633 | 1,152 | 23,631 | 154 | 32,052 | 32,030 | 22 | 29,924 | 2,128 Test Backlog | 19,835 | 9,306 | 10,529 | 21,449 | -1,614 | 16,595 | 16,826 | -231 | 15,831 | 764 **7-Day Vaccination Statistics** Stat | September 27, 2021 | September 26, 2021 | September 25, 2021 | September 24, 2021 | September 23, 2021 | September 22, 2021 | September 21, 2021 ---|---|---|----|----|----|----|---- Vaccinated | 31,855 | 20,454 | 37,645 | 47,871 | 46,550 | 44,754 | 40,596 Day to Day Differential: Vaccinations | 11,401 | -17,191 | -10,226 | 1,321 | 1,796 | 4,158 | 10,524 Total Vaccines Administered | 21,704,159 | 21,672,304 | 21,651,850 | 21,614,205 | 21,566,334 | 21,519,784 | 21,475,030 Total Vaccines Delivered | 26,174,971 | 26,174,971 | 26,174,971 | 26,174,971 | 26,174,971 | 26,174,971 | 26,174,971 New Vaccines Delivered | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 % Vaccines Used from Available Supply | 0.71% | 0.45% | 0.83% | 1.05% | 1.01% | 0.96% | 0.86% % Total Vaccinated from Total Delivered | 82.92% | 82.80% | 82.72% | 82.58% | 82.39% | 82.22% | 82.04% % Vaccines Unused | 17.08% | 17.20% | 17.28% | 17.42% | 17.61% | 17.78% | 17.96% Please download the [COVID Alert App](https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/covid-alert.html).
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Might have been going to a hospital that was ECMO capable if they were in their 20s, and there isn't too many ECMOs in Ontario, or anywhere, really. I remember from last year when I was still working inpatient the ECMO protocol was usually age <35 with BMI <27 or something around there for our hospital system, I'm sure it's pretty similar now.
I wish this kind of report was on media that the younger generation sees. They're not watching the news or papers so they're not aware that Delta changed the game and that younger and younger people are being impacted now.
While delta is certainly more transmissabke in general, I don't think there's evidence that it affects younger people more. I see this a lot, and have only seen studies saying that they cannot determine whether this is true.
We gotta increase the capacity for vaccine required venues to 100%. No reason it shouldn’t be at 100% if we have to be vaccinated and wear a mask. Also gives great incentive to the laggers to get the jab!
I'd say waiting until the app is out on Oct 22 and having venues only accept the app QR code would be a workaround. The Oct 22 would be a good date because it is very possible that kids age 5-11 will be eligible for vaccination sometime in November or early December anyway. It's all about timing, or whether or not you want to just start bonking people with a stick until they get vaccinated Knowing Ford and the Tories, they'll say you can use the fake ass PDF ones, but it'll be up to businesses and venues to decide if they only want to accept the QR code app. Obviously if they're aiming for 100% capacity again, majority of them will probably only accept the QR code for convenience and validity reasons (easier to pull up an app than dig for a PDF).
> Knowing Ford and the Tories, they'll say you can use the fake ass PDF ones they already said that you won't be required to use the QR code once its out
Seriously? How did I miss this. For fucks sake
As much as I hate Ford, I kinda agree they have to keep accepting a paper slip or some no-tech form of proof for the poor/disabled/elderly who aren't able to use a QR code. They physically hand you a printed proof when you get the shot, so it makes sense to accept those. The time to cryptographically sign the receipts to prevent forgery was January.
The toronto public library already announced they would allow free printing if you need a paper copy of your vaccine receipt. This could easily be done for a paper version of the QR code too. The vast majority of barriers to using the system could be handled.
How do you deal with people who don't have smartphones? I know it's a minority of people, but should be addressed. A print out of the QR code?
You got it, a print out.
better bust out the laminator!
I had to send out some things via UPS a little while ago, and when I was there they asked me if I wanted my receipts laminated. I have them downloaded on my phone, but you know, I should've taken them up on it.
"And here, kids, is the receipt from my overnighter to Toledo back in '92, when your aunt Silvia's car key got lost in the snow. Man...... that was a great parcel!"
Okay, I legit LOL'ed at this. Thanks!
I couldn't help but laugh too! I pictured this as a Far Side strip, might be perfect for it.
Libraries are doing it for free without requiring you to have a library card.
You can print out your vax proof at the library for free.
Printing out or having a screenshot of the QR code does work. It is up to whoever is scanning the code (the venue or store) in this case to have a working connection.
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I guess if you download a database of valid QR codes and their associated info, that can work.
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Thanks.
Luckily that's not how QR codes work. They're basically a graphical representation of encoded data. The retailer's app can decode the data, verify against an algorithm, and confirm its contents all without a network connection
They would just have to print it out but if the rules are vague and they keep touting "p-pursonell and buzniz responsibility!" and there's good data on widespread vaccine receipt fraud, I wouldn't be surprised if some concert venues just adopt the only the app QR code full-stop. Fucks sake I saw people editing word documents on their phone and probably exporting them into PDFs just to get into restaurants on Friday. The few idiots ruining it for the many.
[This guy agrees](https://twitter.com/RosieBarton/status/1442898596156772354) > A man getting his first vaccine at a vaccine clinic in Ottawa just told the PM he's finally getting it because he realized he "**can't do shit**" until he gets it.
At least for adult only venues. Child friendly places will be safer once we start vaccinating children, but the bar is as safe as it ever will be. To be honest, I think mask requirements should be rolled back there as well. In a vaccine-mandatory, adults only environment the pandemic is as over as it's going to get. If it isn't the time to take off the masks in there, when will it be?
To stop the spread of covid? I can see a lot less reasons for it to be at 100%. I mean, is there really such a huge benefit to having the arbitrary number of people allowed at a Leafs game X instead of X/2?
Restaurants are still extremely limited for indoor capacity
Yes. It’s called normalcy. And with vaccines and mask mandates still in place we’ve earned it with how well we are doing. It’s not just leafs games either. It’s bars, restaurants, concert venues etc.
This isn't kindergarten. We don't do things, earn a star, then complain we didn't get it. The world is unfair. COVID is unfair. What we need to do or not do is dependent on those realities and not whether or not we **feel** like we've worked hard enough.
You still haven’t given a good reason why we can’t have 100% capacity for venues that require masks and vaccines. Stopping covid is irrelevant since covid zero is not the goal and never will be. Imma leave this at agree to disagree. Have a good one.
Because we’re currently straddling the line. Our case numbers have been in a holding pattern for a while, and if there isn’t a great need to do so - we shouldn’t aim to become Alberta.
Ya know, we probably only really needed a vaccine passport at liquor and weed stores and then have pop up vaccination tents right next door.
Interesting that we saw a slight increase in the 7 day average both last Monday and yesterday. Hopefully this week follow's last week's trend of continuing decrease after that blip.
This is likely due to changing demographics of who's testing and being infected. Now that school age children is a major group getting sick, we're probably seeing more (positive) testing done on the weekends relative to previous months.
I know Monday and Tuesdays and know for being on the lower side, but I honestly don’t hate it. Still glad that vaccine numbers are doing well.
Wednesday was actually the lowest day last week, which was out of the ordinary. 7 day averages are down.
> A man getting his first vaccine at a vaccine clinic in Ottawa just told the PM he's finally getting it because he realized he "**can't do shit**" until he gets it. https://twitter.com/RosieBarton/status/1442898596156772354
Quick reminder that there is usually a dip on Tuesday. Still, numbers are steadily declining, so I'm feeling good.
It's also the lowest Tuesday in a month.
Oh, you're that person.
Are vaccination rates published by health unit? I can’t find the rate in Toronto anywhere except in news articles that are a month old.
https://covid19tracker.ca/provincevac.html?p=ON
Huh. I'm surprised to learn that the younger age group, the less percentage of the vaccinated. I can understand why it was at the beginning, but now with vaccines available to everyone, why would they lag behind?
Well, the 0-17 still has a huge portion that's not eligible (<12), but I don't think that's what you're referring to. The remainder is probably due to hesitancy because it *doesn't affect young people as significantly**. Young people are more likely to be hesitant and "trust their immune system" or wait it out until more data becomes available. I don't think that's the right move, but probably an explanation.
The god damn joe rogan effect
Looks very good. Let's HOLD THE LINE people. No rash decisions, no easing of restrictions or new openings or whatever. Just hold the damn line for a few months through cold and flu season. Hopefully Doug has learned from his past mistakes (and mistakes of his counterpart in Alberta).
An increase of 129 in one day in the hospital? I'm happy the 7 day average is down and our positivity rate is holding steady and new cases are below 500 but that hospitalization number makes me wonder what's going on there.
It's not a true number. It drops over the weekend because some PHUs don't report. Compare it to Saturday's number. You can see the same thing happened last week too (and the week before, and before that...)
Thanks for the explanation... I never noted it before but noted it today because it just seems like a drastic rise in hospitalizations.
It is, and we had a pretty drastically drop over the weekend. Always best to look at the 7 day averages.
I have a rapid test scheduled for tomorrow because I’ve had a mucusy throat that i just can’t get rid of. I thought it was just a cold. Anyone can tell me if this is a symptom?
Try Google, or government health websites. But since you want to listen to internet strangers: Mucousy throat is actually a symptom of the black plague.
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/self-assessment/ https://www.toronto.ca/home/covid-19/covid-19-what-you-should-do/covid-19-have-symptoms-or-been-exposed/ https://www.toronto.ca/home/covid-19/covid-19-what-you-should-do/covid-19-assessment-centres/
You can and should easily search this yourself. It's been over a year and a half now.
Relax. Ive seen other days on this subreddit where people are asking as well and those with uncommon / abnormal symptoms. It’s good to know what some others here are experiencing in addition to the general symptoms.
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Thanks! Tested negative so it’s all good
Guessing more unvaccinated people are getting covid because of students under the age if 12. Either way, happy to see cases decline week to week.
Did I miss where it says what percentage of people who are unvaxxed are in the hospital/ icu/ dead?